#HASCON Transformers Panel Coverage - TLK, Volcanicus, Orion Pax, More

Friday, September 8th, 2017 11:16AM CDT

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The official social media channels for Hasbro are currently kicking off the first ever HASCON event, over in Rhode Island! As the convention takes under its mantle several Hasbro properties, we are tuned it to follow all event Transformers (with some inevitable sides of GI Joe and the other characters in the shared universe such as Rom, MASK, and more).

And we're in the panel room with Seibertron.com as the Transformers brand team runs through the various members of both Hasbro and Takara Tomy personnel present for the talk! Three Japanese designers have joined the Hasbro team for the event too: Shogo Hasui, Takashi Kunihiro, and Hall of Fame inductee Hideaki Yoke, plus interpreter Daizo Uehara.

The Last Knight

The first product presented and discussed has to do with the concept of Story, and Transformers: The Last Knight - the team shows a clip introducing the Allspark Tech line (which you can see covered here, too).

The team is particularly excited about the story-driven features of the new toy line, from the electronics to the voice clips included in each of the figures.

Next is more The Last Knight coverage, with the Knight Armour line of toys (as previously seen here, for example). Hasbro actually collaborated with Takara on the design for this line, and the helmet designs for the various figures are inspired by actual military wear from across the world.

Robots in Disguise Combiner Force

Swiftly moving on to the Robots in Disguise toy line, with discussion of the collaboration with the animation studios and the creation and design of the combiners from the show (such as Ultra Bee and Menasor). Discussing how the concept had to adhere to the idea of the multiple modes being compatible with each other, while also appealing to the multiple toys in one all in one box.

After the major combiners, the team discusses the Crash Combiners instead, showing Strongarm and Optimus Prime as examples.

Generations - Power of the Primes
Discussing the idea of reveals, and how the Prime Wars trilogy. Prime Masters being reintroduced along with the confirmation of Optimus Primal as new Prime after fan vote.

Dinobot Slash - first female Dinobot, collaborated with Takara Tomy to create the Legends scale new character.
Dinobot Slug
Dinobot Swoop
Dinobot Snarl
Dinobot Sludge

Voyager class Grimlock - poseable, interacts with Prime Masters.
Yoke-san actually talking about the Dinobots' history and how it influenced current designs

All new Dinobot combiner announced: Volcanicus!
Sludge is leg, Snarl is other leg, Swoop and Slug is arms, Grimlock is torso.
Ankle tilts!
Had to think about the joints system for the combiners, in order to hold up the whole figure. Right amount of friction was hard to get.

Leader class reveal - Optimus Prime. Evolving Deluxe Orion Pax into the Autobot Leader.
Some design topics talking about getting the right space and friction for the Deluxe to fit.
Discussing the interactive and play pattern for the Matrix and the other Prime-help crystals, blending old stories with new toyline.

Exclusives

Titans Return Arcee and Titans Return Ultra Magnus, as seen before.

Optimus Prime Power Bank also seen before.

A final teaser was the silhouette for Predaking, as per the mockup seen recently.

Q&A
A question about a new Shockwave, which 'will be taken into consideration'.

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Re: #HASCON Transformers Panel Coverage - TLK, Volcanicus, Orion Pax, More (1909285)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on September 8th, 2017 @ 11:21am CDT

So leader Prime is deluxe Orion Pax (cab) with the trailer attached?

And I like the Dinobots individually, but that combined mode? Ehh.

Re: #HASCON Transformers Panel Coverage - TLK, Volcanicus, Orion Pax, More (1909286)
Posted by Kyleor on September 8th, 2017 @ 11:21am CDT

Looks like they have the packaging at least from that Power Bank Optimus coming out.

Re: #HASCON Transformers Panel Coverage - TLK, Volcanicus, Orion Pax, More (1909289)
Posted by Va'al on September 8th, 2017 @ 11:25am CDT

Kyleor wrote:Looks like they have the packaging at least from that Power Bank Optimus coming out.

All exclusives are available at the show.

Re: #HASCON Transformers Panel Coverage - TLK, Volcanicus, Orion Pax, More (1909290)
Posted by ScottyP on September 8th, 2017 @ 11:32am CDT

Reminder: "combining Dinobots" has never been a good idea. It is still not a good idea [-(

Leader OP looks incredible though. Amazing to see those great triumphs at the same time as hilarious stumbles like deluxe Sludge.

Edit: Also, I guess RiD is done? Seemed that way but this maybe sealed it. If so, they should feel really bad about how they handled it for the past year after it got off to a pretty solid start.

Re: #HASCON Transformers Panel Coverage - TLK, Volcanicus, Orion Pax, More (1909293)
Posted by bluecatcinema on September 8th, 2017 @ 11:33am CDT

"Volcanicus"? As names go, it could have been worse...

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Posted by william-james88 on September 8th, 2017 @ 11:40am CDT

ScottyP wrote:Reminder: "combining Dinobots" has never been a good idea. It is still not a good idea

Leader OP looks incredible though. Amazing to see those great triumphs at the same time as hilarious stumbles like deluxe Sludge.

Edit: Also, I guess RiD is done? Seemed that way but this maybe sealed it. If so, they should feel really bad about how they handled it for the past year after it got off to a pretty solid start.

Right there with you on RID, they could have at least said something about it being done or now. Instead they talked about older gimicks and toys we saw before, why I have no clue. The lack of attention given to that line is always puzzling, especially considering its one of their big sellers. We dont even know if that last wave (the one found in practically every other country) is ever coming to US stores.

Anyways, about that Leader OP, what I like best is how solid it looked in its full combined mode. The guy was handling it like any other leader figure without having to make sure anything would untab.

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Posted by Va'al on September 8th, 2017 @ 11:44am CDT

Thanks to Cyberpath for fixed images!

Re: #HASCON Transformers Panel Coverage - TLK, Volcanicus, Orion Pax, More (1909300)
Posted by o.supreme on September 8th, 2017 @ 11:47am CDT

william-james88 wrote:
LE0KING wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
LE0KING wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Hey look, it's that statue of the Optimus Prime from that one cartoon that ended 3-4 years ago.

Compared to an optimus from a cartoon that ended 30 years ago?
You mean the one that most consider timeless and refuse to let die?

Point stands. Some of us love the prime show the way others love g1.

Agreed.

Now where's my statue of Primal?!

As for the statue, it's been around since SDCC 2010 (saw it in person at Botcon 2011)...at this point, I think its safe to assume that Hasbro uses it to represent Optimus Prime as a character overall, they don't see it as Prime from TF : Prime, they just see it as Optimus Prime period....and plus they probably paid a lot so you are going to see it for many years to come

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Posted by Munkky on September 8th, 2017 @ 11:48am CDT

I'm surprised they didn't show Hun-Gurrr, unless there's going to be more reveals as the event goes on. As hilarious as it would have been for Volcanicus to look like the Beast just to see how people reacted, he still looks decent and I'm definitely going to get every Dinobot.
Slash is cute, but it doesn't look like she combines with Volcanicus (unless I'm just not seeing it). It would be a shame if she was another Wreck-Gar situation, where she's initially marketed as being part of a Combiner but actually isn't.

Re: #HASCON Transformers Panel Coverage - TLK, Volcanicus, Orion Pax, More (1909304)
Posted by Microraptor on September 8th, 2017 @ 11:54am CDT

Slash is fan-TASTIC.

Re: #HASCON Transformers Panel Coverage - TLK, Volcanicus, Orion Pax, More (1909305)
Posted by Dagon on September 8th, 2017 @ 11:54am CDT

Well,hopefully this can finally end the agony of not knowing whether PotP Starscream is going to be a combiner torso, since we "didn't know" this because Hasbro didn't officially state it, even though it was obvious from the SDCC pictures, and even the pictures shown at the prepanel today. I know the suspense had been killing me.

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Posted by Mechastrike on September 8th, 2017 @ 11:55am CDT

they really out did themselves this time. EVOLVING as a transformation feature?

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Posted by o.supreme on September 8th, 2017 @ 11:55am CDT

I'm sure there will be other reveals, they would not have teased images of the Terrorcons without showing them at some point. Also...I too am hoping for legends class integration as either a weapon or that actually fits on the combiner somehow. Still...there's fan modes even if Hasbro doesn't come up with something officially.

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Posted by william-james88 on September 8th, 2017 @ 11:58am CDT

Munkky wrote:Slash is cute, but it doesn't look like she combines with Volcanicus (unless I'm just not seeing it). It would be a shame if she was another Wreck-Gar situation, where she's initially marketed as being part of a Combiner but actually isn't.

then expect there to be shame :twisted:

Re: #HASCON Transformers Panel Coverage - TLK, Volcanicus, Orion Pax, More (1909310)
Posted by Kurona on September 8th, 2017 @ 12:02pm CDT

I'd find it very odd if they specifically made a new Dinobot - with a new mold no less - to go along with the Dinobot combiner... and there was no integration. Either way, I'm not complaining -- I love her and I'm getting her nonetheless!

Re: #HASCON Transformers Panel Coverage - TLK, Volcanicus, Orion Pax, More (1909313)
Posted by RustedCross on September 8th, 2017 @ 12:13pm CDT

I'm guessing that Slash will transform into a weapon.
Maybe a sword or hammer type thing.

Re: #HASCON Transformers Panel Coverage - TLK, Volcanicus, Orion Pax, More (1909317)
Posted by Dagon on September 8th, 2017 @ 12:18pm CDT

I just noticed this from looking at the images, but the Prime masters or whatever they're being called, the Pretenders...they're basically this as the Titanmaster figures now, right? It looks like the same thing, only with a dedicated robot form, whereas some of the Titanmaster things are dinosaurs or some other type of vehicle. I don't own any of the Titanmaster ones, but I'm thinking of Apeface, whose little vehicle thing is a jet and an ape. These new things are essentially the same thing, right?

And the little guys turn into heads still? I know they're probably supposed to be something else, but that's clearly a headmaster mode....

Re: #HASCON Transformers Panel Coverage - TLK, Volcanicus, Orion Pax, More (1909322)
Posted by Kurona on September 8th, 2017 @ 12:24pm CDT

Dagon wrote:I just noticed this from looking at the images, but the Prime masters or whatever they're being called, the Pretenders...they're basically this as the Titanmaster figures now, right? It looks like the same thing, only with a dedicated robot form, whereas some of the Titanmaster things are dinosaurs or some other type of vehicle. I don't own any of the Titanmaster ones, but I'm thinking of Apeface, whose little vehicle thing is a jet and an ape. These new things are essentially the same thing, right?

And the little guys turn into heads still? I know they're probably supposed to be something else, but that's clearly a headmaster mode....

The Prime Masters are the replacement for the Titan Master class, yeah. Functionally these Prime Masters work the exact same as Titan Masters -- same connectivity and everything. The thing replacing the head mode though is supposed to be some sort of engine or power source, so if it helps think of these like the new Powermasters.

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Posted by william-james88 on September 8th, 2017 @ 12:27pm CDT

Kurona wrote:I'd find it very odd if they specifically made a new Dinobot - with a new mold no less - to go along with the Dinobot combiner... and there was no integration. Either way, I'm not complaining -- I love her and I'm getting her nonetheless!

Well, that mold could have been done for cindersaur since we know he uses the very same mold.

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Posted by Dagon on September 8th, 2017 @ 12:28pm CDT

Kurona wrote:
Dagon wrote:I just noticed this from looking at the images, but the Prime masters or whatever they're being called, the Pretenders...they're basically this as the Titanmaster figures now, right? It looks like the same thing, only with a dedicated robot form, whereas some of the Titanmaster things are dinosaurs or some other type of vehicle. I don't own any of the Titanmaster ones, but I'm thinking of Apeface, whose little vehicle thing is a jet and an ape. These new things are essentially the same thing, right?

And the little guys turn into heads still? I know they're probably supposed to be something else, but that's clearly a headmaster mode....

The Prime Masters are the replacement for the Titan Master class, yeah. Functionally these Prime Masters work the exact same as Titan Masters -- same connectivity and everything. The thing replacing the head mode though is supposed to be some sort of engine or power source, so if it helps think of these like the new Powermasters.

Rad. I know that this is old news, but I skipped the tiny guys in Titans Return, so I didn't pay much attention to these.
Thanks!

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Posted by Kurona on September 8th, 2017 @ 12:33pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:I'd find it very odd if they specifically made a new Dinobot - with a new mold no less - to go along with the Dinobot combiner... and there was no integration. Either way, I'm not complaining -- I love her and I'm getting her nonetheless!

Well, that mold could have been done for cindersaur since we know he uses the very same mold.

If it was though, it would have looked like Cindersaur. Zero details on this toy match up with the G1 Firecon - and in fact it has a lot of details characteristic of the Dinobot group, especially in the head - so this isn't a pretool situation like TR Sentinel Prime and Astrotrain, this is more like T30 Optimus to CW Huffer.

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Posted by Mr.MicroMaster on September 8th, 2017 @ 12:36pm CDT

Grimlock and slash look great. Volcanicus looks fine. Does anyone else see slash as the dinobots equivalent to nickel of the DJD. Optimus looks awesome reminds me of mp Prime.

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Posted by joevill on September 8th, 2017 @ 12:36pm CDT

That leader Optimus prime looks dope af!!

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Posted by Kurona on September 8th, 2017 @ 12:37pm CDT

Honestly, I totally agree with you Micromaster -- aside from the chest, this guy's a shoe-in for MP-10. And even then there's something vaguely IDW-esque about it I can't quite pin down... either way, he's totally going with Leader Soundwave, Leader Jetfire and Leader Thundercracker for the ex-RiD display

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Posted by Kurona on September 8th, 2017 @ 1:16pm CDT

With reveals for Power of the Primes coming from every angle today, Hasbro have posted new renders of some of those reveals to their Facebook today -- namely, those of Leader-Class Optimus Prime; Voyager-Class Grimlock; Deluxe-Class Swoop, Slug, Sludge and Snarl; Legends-Class new character Slash; and Prime Master-class Cloudburst. Check the renders out below, keep an eye out for more Hascon and Power of the Primes news on Seibertron later today; and tell us what you think of the new Dinobots in the forums!

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Posted by RustedCross on September 8th, 2017 @ 1:20pm CDT

Red swoop here?

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Posted by Diem on September 8th, 2017 @ 1:22pm CDT

Takara will probably do an anime accurate version.

Sludge being smaller than Grimlock doesn't ring right to me but everything else here is neat.

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Posted by Sabrblade on September 8th, 2017 @ 1:29pm CDT

The change of Swoop's chest from red to blue must have been a last-minute one, explaining why his stock render was kept hidden at the panel.

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Posted by RustedCross on September 8th, 2017 @ 1:30pm CDT

Seriously loving the dinobots. I can't believe we are getting new dinobots that look like the originals, apparently transform roughly the same as the originals, and have the added capability of combining. That's just awesome.

My only complaint is the fear of stickers. I hate stickers, and I see a few there. Hopefully Takara fixes that issue, if it actually is one when the final product hits the shelves.

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Posted by Diem on September 8th, 2017 @ 1:32pm CDT

Judging by Orion Pax's legs the rear of the cab mode will look like a joke...but then even MP-10's trailer hitch looks a little funky

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Posted by RiddlerJ on September 8th, 2017 @ 1:37pm CDT

bluecatcinema wrote:"Volcanicus"? As names go, it could have been worse...

Always thought Barbaricus would be a good Dino Combiner name.

Re: #HASCON Transformers Panel Coverage - TLK, Volcanicus, Orion Pax, More (1909369)
Posted by Kurona on September 8th, 2017 @ 1:40pm CDT

We have had a Combiner made from dinosaur Transformers from the not-to-distant-past that went by a similar name...

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Posted by Mr.MicroMaster on September 8th, 2017 @ 1:55pm CDT

Everything looks fantastic :HASBRO:

you've really knocked it out of the park. I want everything so bad.

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Posted by Quantum Surge on September 8th, 2017 @ 2:05pm CDT

So far, so good. Dinobots look rad (if not simplistic). While they look a little too similar to their G1 toys, but given that we barely get the other four members, I'll let that slide. Optimus looks alright, but the altmode looks pretty unfinished to me; still hope to get it for an MP-10 substitute.

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Posted by Sabrblade on September 8th, 2017 @ 2:09pm CDT

I find it a little sad that the first question asked at the panel's Q&A was about the Brave Series.

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Posted by Terrsolpix on September 8th, 2017 @ 2:14pm CDT

Looks like slash is a fembot, does that mean the movie one is too? I guess that makes the kibble work as a ponytail.

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Posted by jtanimator on September 8th, 2017 @ 2:15pm CDT

I'M PANICKING I'M SO EXCITED TO GET THE ENTIRE ACCURATE DINOBOT TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm sure this has been asked everywhere, but when is this line going to begin release? Do we know if all of the listed dinobots will be in the same wave?

Re: #HASCON Transformers Panel Coverage - TLK, Volcanicus, Orion Pax, More (1909397)
Posted by Va'al on September 8th, 2017 @ 2:25pm CDT

jtanimator wrote:I'M PANICKING I'M SO EXCITED TO GET THE ENTIRE ACCURATE DINOBOT TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm sure this has been asked everywhere, but when is this line going to begin release? Do we know if all of the listed dinobots will be in the same wave?

Slash, Swoop, Slug and Grimlock are all wave 1.

Snarl, Sludge are wave 2.

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Posted by Va'al on September 8th, 2017 @ 2:26pm CDT

It's nice of Hasbro to actually have a full 'through the ages' mini-exhibition though, I'll give them that.

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Posted by Sabrblade on September 8th, 2017 @ 2:30pm CDT

Terrsolpix wrote:Looks like slash is a fembot, does that mean the movie one is too? I guess that makes the kibble work as a ponytail.

Nope. The movie one uses male pronouns in its bios.

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Posted by Diem on September 8th, 2017 @ 2:38pm CDT

Given the LeMans-esque car mode on new Jazz I'd really love to see a Deluge from it.

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Posted by Sigma Magnus on September 8th, 2017 @ 2:49pm CDT

Is this all there's gonna be for Power of the Primes reveals, or might there be more today or tomorrow?

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Posted by Va'al on September 8th, 2017 @ 2:50pm CDT

Diem wrote:Given the LeMans-esque car mode on new Jazz I'd really love to see a Deluge from it.

One of the streams/clips/Periscopes I was following earlier mentioned he may have something to do with Mirage, actually!

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Posted by Diem on September 8th, 2017 @ 3:03pm CDT

Va'al wrote:
Diem wrote:Given the LeMans-esque car mode on new Jazz I'd really love to see a Deluge from it.

One of the streams/clips/Periscopes I was following earlier mentioned he may have something to do with Mirage, actually!

That would be a waste; I'm pretty happy with the two deluxe neo-G1 figures we already got and the chest in robot mode would be totally wrong.

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Posted by ArmadaPrime on September 8th, 2017 @ 3:04pm CDT

Dang, perhaps my excitement over blue swoop was premature
One of the decos was presumably scrapped last minute in favour of the other, I can only hope that the blue won out!
Also that this doesn't become a repeat of the grey/tan onslaught nonsense from the other year...

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Posted by PopCultureGeek2063 on September 8th, 2017 @ 3:12pm CDT

it bothers me that Frank Welker still hasn't attended a convention yet in California or the West Coast, he's been a priority of mine to meet for several years now.

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Posted by Graviton on September 8th, 2017 @ 3:19pm CDT

I hope they release both color swoops, the red deco as an exclusive or a running change.

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Posted by Kyleor on September 8th, 2017 @ 3:36pm CDT

Dagon wrote:I just noticed this from looking at the images, but the Prime masters or whatever they're being called, the Pretenders...they're basically this as the Titanmaster figures now, right? It looks like the same thing, only with a dedicated robot form, whereas some of the Titanmaster things are dinosaurs or some other type of vehicle. I don't own any of the Titanmaster ones, but I'm thinking of Apeface, whose little vehicle thing is a jet and an ape. These new things are essentially the same thing, right?

And the little guys turn into heads still? I know they're probably supposed to be something else, but that's clearly a headmaster mode....

It looks like they may be an update of Pretenders, but with an outer shell that actually does something this time.

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Posted by Optimum Supreme on September 8th, 2017 @ 4:01pm CDT

Make a T-rex a bigger class than a brotosaurus? 8-}