Images of Instructions for Rise of the Beasts Transforming Optimus Primal Mask

ZeroWolf wrote:Yikes, so the feet weren't mis-transformed after all.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I zoomed in and it looks like the feet end up lower than we first saw.

Emerje wrote:The color layout on Bee is a little weird, probably from favoring the bot mode since it forms his chest. He'd look better with the panel under his eyes in yellow, the space around his "mouth" is supposed be silver. As is he looks like he has a big yellow beard.

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:The color layout on Bee is a little weird, probably from favoring the bot mode since it forms his chest. He'd look better with the panel under his eyes in yellow, the space around his "mouth" is supposed be silver. As is he looks like he has a big yellow beard.

It kinda reminds me of Prime Bumblebee's face.

First-Aid wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:The color layout on Bee is a little weird, probably from favoring the bot mode since it forms his chest. He'd look better with the panel under his eyes in yellow, the space around his "mouth" is supposed be silver. As is he looks like he has a big yellow beard.

It kinda reminds me of Prime Bumblebee's face.

That's it! Something was bugging me about this and that is it exactly! There are some strong resemblances to Prime BB.

william-james88 wrote:While not major news, these images of the instructions for Transforming Optimus Primal mask do add many new wrinkles to the whole Rise of the Beasts line. We know these transforming masks are already in ports (there is also a Bumblebee one) along with the Smash and Change toys like the upcoming Optimus Prime and yet while both are in the same set of movie listings, the labelling is different. The Smash and Change Rise of the Beasts toys are going to be in Cyberverse packaging, we saw that. And it was confirmed that they were initially supposed to be in Rise of the Beasts packaging. We even had a description of the packaging having a volcano/molten lava theme from those who had seen mock ups. "Rise of the Beasts" is now nowhere to be found on the Cyberverse packaging. However, we have these photos below which are of the instructions that come with the transforming mask and they have the Rise of the Beasts labelling. So will we be getting toys in Cyberverse packaging that have ROTB labelled instructions? Only time will tell but it seems not everything could be stopped and shifted around, making this ROTB toyline rather interesting.

william-james88 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:The color layout on Bee is a little weird, probably from favoring the bot mode since it forms his chest. He'd look better with the panel under his eyes in yellow, the space around his "mouth" is supposed be silver. As is he looks like he has a big yellow beard.

It kinda reminds me of Prime Bumblebee's face.

That's it! Something was bugging me about this and that is it exactly! There are some strong resemblances to Prime BB.

There should be, Prime BB's face is a streamlined version of Bayverse Bee.

Hellscream9999 wrote:These masks are pretty cool, I really like the concept

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:These masks are pretty cool, I really like the concept

But think how much it would hurt to wear these!

ZeroWolf wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:These masks are pretty cool, I really like the concept

But think how much it would hurt to wear these!

Until someone puts them on, we'll never know.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:These masks are pretty cool, I really like the concept

But think how much it would hurt to wear these!

Until someone puts them on, we'll never know.

I will be that someone!

Sabrblade wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:These masks are pretty cool, I really like the concept

But think how much it would hurt to wear these!

Until someone puts them on, we'll never know.

I will be that someone!

First-Aid wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:These masks are pretty cool, I really like the concept

But think how much it would hurt to wear these!

Until someone puts them on, we'll never know.

I will be that someone!

THIS. 100% THIS.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:These masks are pretty cool, I really like the concept

But think how much it would hurt to wear these!

Until someone puts them on, we'll never know.

I will be that someone!

THIS. 100% THIS.

Yup, that's about right.

-Kanrabat- wrote:I think the mask to bot worked better for Primal than Bee. Regardless, I see the mask is properly transformed this time around, making it not look like a torture device.

Tried and tested models still have their place, especially when you’ve got a Consumer Products program that leans on core pillars like toys and games. What is interesting now is that we can test and learn. Instead of dropping products based on seasons, we’re now looking to where a rollout could be more relevant to a culture in one of our specific markets.

If the content is pushed back and we experience a delay at retail, or there are problems getting product on the water, it’s better to be flexible and have a softer, more phased-out launch instead of using a big, all-encompassing 360 strategy.

This is especially important for Hasbro’s “vault” brands such as Transformers, Peppa Pig, and My Little Pony, which exists in highly competitive toy categories, most notably preschool. To have a major rollout fall flat due to timing problems is not an option, so the company is expanding its arsenal of marketing and engagement tools.

ZeroWolf wrote:Man, those pictures from 2014 really kick me in the Nostalgia, our local Toys R Us was well stocked like that.

william-james88 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Man, those pictures from 2014 really kick me in the Nostalgia, our local Toys R Us was well stocked like that.

Yeah, that was mine. I went to that same toysrus yesterday and it was so pitiful I took no pics. Don't know about where you are at, but in Canada, TRU is no longer one of the main stores to buy Transformers anymore. People just go for exclusives if ever they have any.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:So basically, like what happened in past movie years with the final wave not showing up en mass at retail if at all, the same thing could happen now but with whole assortments of figures, not just a wave or two.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:So basically, like what happened in past movie years with the final wave not showing up en mass at retail if at all, the same thing could happen now but with whole assortments of figures, not just a wave or two.

Spider5800 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:So basically, like what happened in past movie years with the final wave not showing up en mass at retail if at all, the same thing could happen now but with whole assortments of figures, not just a wave or two.

Yeah, not sure how collectors are supposed to read this as anything except pessimistically. It's already a crapshoot finding anything from Hasbro at retail (not just Transformers, but SW Black Series, Marvel Legends waves, and ESPECIALLY GI Joe Classified)

william-james88 wrote:

Spider5800 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:So basically, like what happened in past movie years with the final wave not showing up en mass at retail if at all, the same thing could happen now but with whole assortments of figures, not just a wave or two.

Yeah, not sure how collectors are supposed to read this as anything except pessimistically. It's already a crapshoot finding anything from Hasbro at retail (not just Transformers, but SW Black Series, Marvel Legends waves, and ESPECIALLY GI Joe Classified)

This news is specifically NOT about any of those lines

Spider5800 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Spider5800 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:So basically, like what happened in past movie years with the final wave not showing up en mass at retail if at all, the same thing could happen now but with whole assortments of figures, not just a wave or two.

Yeah, not sure how collectors are supposed to read this as anything except pessimistically. It's already a crapshoot finding anything from Hasbro at retail (not just Transformers, but SW Black Series, Marvel Legends waves, and ESPECIALLY GI Joe Classified)

This news is specifically NOT about any of those lines

They specifically mention the Snake Eyes movie, which had a Classified wave get tied up from the movie's delay.

The bigger point I was making is they are already using this model (they specify Legacy and SS already do, at least), and it is BAD. It makes it harder to find figures at retail and encourages scalping. That they are putting MORE lines on this model is bad news.

First-Aid wrote:The difference between the last movie line and today is the existance of Hasbro Pulse. That makes availability a completely different ballgame, beign able to order from the source rather than have to hunt multiple stores. As far out in the middle of nowhere as I am, Pulse has been a lifesaver as even my local Walmart (almost an hour away) rarely has squat. I've just been ordering direct. Pulse was created for collectors and I can't see Hasbro not making figures available on the site when the lines are due.

First-Aid wrote:The difference between the last movie line and today is the existence of Hasbro Pulse..

Spider5800 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:The difference between the last movie line and today is the existance of Hasbro Pulse. That makes availability a completely different ballgame, beign able to order from the source rather than have to hunt multiple stores. As far out in the middle of nowhere as I am, Pulse has been a lifesaver as even my local Walmart (almost an hour away) rarely has squat. I've just been ordering direct. Pulse was created for collectors and I can't see Hasbro not making figures available on the site when the lines are due.

Sure, if you're constantly watching for toy news so you can be on the site when pre-orders go live. The problem is they are constantly "selling out" pre-orders within a day or two of them going live. You can go to the site now and see a list of items that have not released yet and are already "sold out".

This is on top of other issues, like having to tack on shipping costs (because they got rid of free shipping unless you pay an extra subscription) rather than just being able to buy the item for retail price while you do your normal shopping at Target or wherever.

Hasbro Pulse is just a band-aid for the bigger issues Hasbro is having with distribution, in my eyes, and not really a good one. If I have to pre-order toys months or years in advance to have a chance at getting them, MAYBE THEY SHOULD JUST MAKE MORE OF THOSE TOYS.

Spider5800 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Spider5800 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:So basically, like what happened in past movie years with the final wave not showing up en mass at retail if at all, the same thing could happen now but with whole assortments of figures, not just a wave or two.

Yeah, not sure how collectors are supposed to read this as anything except pessimistically. It's already a crapshoot finding anything from Hasbro at retail (not just Transformers, but SW Black Series, Marvel Legends waves, and ESPECIALLY GI Joe Classified)

This news is specifically NOT about any of those lines

They specifically mention the Snake Eyes movie, which had a Classified wave get tied up from the movie's delay.

The bigger point I was making is they are already using this model (they specify Legacy and SS already do, at least), and it is BAD. It makes it harder to find figures at retail and encourages scalping. That they are putting MORE lines on this model is bad news.

Tried and tested models still have their place, especially when you’ve got a Consumer Products program that leans on core pillars like toys and games. What is interesting now is that we can test and learn. Instead of dropping products based on seasons, we’re now looking to where a rollout could be more relevant to a culture in one of our specific markets.

If the content is pushed back and we experience a delay at retail, or there are problems getting product on the water, it’s better to be flexible and have a softer, more phased-out launch instead of using a big, all-encompassing 360 strategy.

This is especially important for Hasbro’s “vault” brands such as Transformers, Peppa Pig, and My Little Pony, which exists in highly competitive toy categories, most notably preschool. To have a major rollout fall flat due to timing problems is not an option, so the company is expanding its arsenal of marketing and engagement tools.

Cyber Bishop wrote:

First-Aid wrote:The difference between the last movie line and today is the existence of Hasbro Pulse..

Yeah now things sell out to scalpers in minutes on HP and end up popping up for pre-order right after on ebay. HP does not help the situation at all from my experiences.

Cyber Bishop wrote:

First-Aid wrote:The difference between the last movie line and today is the existence of Hasbro Pulse..

Yeah now things sell out to scalpers in minutes on HP and end up popping up for pre-order right after on ebay. HP does not help the situation at all from my experiences.

william-james88 wrote:Which toy from the Legacy or Kingdom mainline has eluded you to the point where you had to rely on a scalper?

Spider5800 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Which toy from the Legacy or Kingdom mainline has eluded you to the point where you had to rely on a scalper?

I never buy from scalpers. But if you're going to seriously argue that the WFC trilogy, including Kingdom, wasn't a pain to collect, I don't think we have much else to discuss here.

Spider5800 wrote:I never buy from scalpers.

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Didn't we know about the flex changers listings, like, weeks (maybe months) ago? I just remember submitting it....