In Hand Images of Transformers Studio Series Leader The Fallen and Core Rumble
Wednesday, August 17th, 2022 11:22AM CDT
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Donnay Wong, over on Facebook, posted some really beautiful and high quality images of the Fallen. We see both his faces as well as the complexity of his extra appendages and the various poses he can take. You can see all those images below.
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Posted by william-james88 on August 17th, 2022 @ 11:24am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 17th, 2022 @ 11:27am CDT
I said I would never buy The Fallen but man, how can I pass on that SEXY beast?
Posted by Tuned Agent on August 17th, 2022 @ 11:42am CDT
william-james88 wrote:On another note, I checked out the 360 video for Crosshairs and looks like they just gave up on that trenchcoat. It's the worst take yet since they just split it, so you have half in the front, then a gap at the sides, and then the rest of the coat in the back. Ends up looking more like a green version of that pope outfit on the top left.
The top half of crosshairs looks better though, as does the alt mode. But the main thing about him is botched.
compared to
Looking back at the livestream, it looks like those long car panels probably can fold out from the backpack and form the sides of the trenchcoat.
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on August 17th, 2022 @ 11:43am CDT
Posted by Cheesinator on August 17th, 2022 @ 11:57am CDT
First-Aid wrote: It was another of the things that made the Bayverse bots so unique in TF history...they did things no one even considered before because everyone was locked into a traditional humanoid look. Hasbro and Dreamworks gave MB a basic set of guidelines, but basically said "Here's a blank check...let's see what you can come up with". We got bots without bodies, wheels for feet, cloth trench coats, built in weapon systems, the ability to rapidly alter alt modes (which I never understood why, if they were in disguise, they stuck with the SAME disguise for years to the point where EVERYONE recognized the disguise), and more organic looks instead of the traditional Robby-the-Robot blocky builds. Say what you want about the movies (popcorn fun, that's it though), they made more changes to the way Transformers were thought of and created than at ANY other point. And THAT is why they are so hard to replicate accurately in toy form.
Hear hear!
I have zero qualms with the shortcuts taken with Crosshairs because - as you said - his design is very difficult to implement on a regular toy (I've not seen many mass-produced, non-premium action figures with good-looking, functional trenchcoats), let alone one that has to transform into a car. I understand the appeal of screen accuracy, but Crosshairs in particular (along with Galvatron, Stinger, Devastator, Grimlock, Lockdown) are *never* going to get perfect toy representations because the mass-shifting/transformations in their movie counterparts are simply impossible to do in reality (IMO).
I love that the movies really stretched the concepts for what Transformers can look like, but the trade-off is that we can't get faithful representations of some of those characters. Guys like Crosshairs looking good from at least one angle is a fair trade-off for me
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on August 17th, 2022 @ 12:44pm CDT
Tuned Agent wrote:Looking back at the livestream, it looks like those long car panels probably can fold out from the backpack and form the sides of the trenchcoat.
The front of the trench coat can also rotate to the side, so there should be a lot of options for posing the trench coat to make it look more complete
Posted by M. Spector on August 17th, 2022 @ 1:16pm CDT
The Fallen
Yes, big yes. I am enamored with this figure, he looks so good. And BIG! The vehicle mode is perfectly fine too, Cybertronian modes have always been fun to me the trick is just make it as wild and mishmashy from the robot mode as possible and this is in that vain enough to pass. Pumped
Hot Rod
Strangely I really want to get Hot Rod too Not because of the movie, or his roll(?) in it, by ANY means. Just purely on the basis of it being a neat toy
Crosshairs
He looks incredible compared to the old version, love the accuracy in both modes. The trench coat car panel thing probably won't be as bad as most people dread, but more pics and videos will solve that decision in time. Still, not one for me
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 17th, 2022 @ 1:47pm CDT
And yes, Rumble is an insta-buy.
Posted by william-james88 on August 17th, 2022 @ 6:04pm CDT
M. Spector wrote:Hot Rod
Strangely I really want to get Hot Rod too Not because of the movie, or his roll(?) in it
Are you referring to how his car rolls in the film?
Posted by william-james88 on August 17th, 2022 @ 6:09pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 17th, 2022 @ 6:40pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 17th, 2022 @ 6:42pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:god he looks amazing
Agreed!
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 17th, 2022 @ 6:52pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:god he looks amazing
Agreed!
I am beyond excited for him!
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on August 17th, 2022 @ 7:41pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on August 17th, 2022 @ 7:58pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Okay, I'm very impressed by the detail on The Fallen. I was gonna pass on him because I generally don't care for Bayverse, but that's a good looking figure.
And yes, Rumble is an insta-buy.
You know hasbro's done a figure right if it can make converts out of people
Posted by Emerje on August 17th, 2022 @ 8:06pm CDT
Posted by LinaNui on August 17th, 2022 @ 8:44pm CDT
Crosshairs looks great. Love that they removed the kibble from his arms to give him a better front look.
Hotrod is perfect. I don't even know how to improve this design anymore.
The Fallen is another dream come true. I have been waiting for this since 2009. It is perfect in every way and I love that they actually made him huge like he should be! Even the altmode is awesome!
I preordered these 3 right when they went on amazon. Glad that they will be out in about 2-3 months too and not longer! Also, the designer interaction on Instagram is awesome. Love seeing the behind the scenes on the design.
Posted by Rtron on August 18th, 2022 @ 6:36am CDT
LinaNui wrote:This was probably the best stream Hasbro has done. yet. I was just expecting to see the rest of legacy wave 3 but then they showed studio series and just nailed every one of the bayverse figures. Also the hints saying that they know about the rest of TLK cast really gets me excited. Fingers crossed for the crew!
Crosshairs looks great. Love that they removed the kibble from his arms to give him a better front look.
Hotrod is perfect. I don't even know how to improve this design anymore.
The Fallen is another dream come true. I have been waiting for this since 2009. It is perfect in every way and I love that they actually made him huge like he should be! Even the altmode is awesome!
I preordered these 3 right when they went on amazon. Glad that they will be out in about 2-3 months too and not longer! Also, the designer interaction on Instagram is awesome. Love seeing the behind the scenes on the design.
Streams have really gotten better in general, with better presentation and some interesting tidbits by the designers.The chat between the design team is great. They obviously have to spout some marketing crap from time to time because ultimately, these streams are adverts and they have to sell you the toys. But you can feel the passion in these guys when they talk, and the genuine enthusiasm when they talk about an aspect of the toy they feel particularly proud of.
Posted by william-james88 on August 18th, 2022 @ 9:25am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 18th, 2022 @ 9:30am CDT
Posted by Rtron on August 18th, 2022 @ 9:36am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Yeah, this stream was great and streams have gotten better. I like when they just let the designer talk. really loved the bit about interacting with the Lamborghini company and how big an input they had. You never hear about stuff like this.
Exactly, things like that, or the amount of people involved in making Megatron, or them just flat out saying that they couldn't factor Inferno's gun into the budget.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 18th, 2022 @ 9:42am CDT
Posted by First-Aid on August 18th, 2022 @ 10:48am CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Those are 2 stunning deluxes. I am so excited for them!
I will second that. And third, fourth, fifth, and sixth it. It's great to see how the front flaps of the "coat" work on Crosshairs...just fantastic work!
Posted by Sabrblade on August 18th, 2022 @ 11:07am CDT
It's like the complete opposite of how things were handled by the Hasbro team of 2010-2013, who were just so secretive and overprotective of everything. At every one of those years' BotCons, that Hasbro team held panels for new revelations related to the Aligned continuity (TF: Prime, the WFC/FOC video games, or just the Aligned lore in general) and each time they were like "What we're about to show you requires that you turn off all your cameras and recording devices, and if we find out that you've taken any pictures or videos of this, you're history, and so is our showing you all anything like this ever again!"Rtron wrote:william-james88 wrote:Yeah, this stream was great and streams have gotten better. I like when they just let the designer talk. really loved the bit about interacting with the Lamborghini company and how big an input they had. You never hear about stuff like this.
Exactly, things like that, or the amount of people involved in making Megatron, or them just flat out saying that they couldn't factor Inferno's gun into the budget.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 18th, 2022 @ 2:19pm CDT
Well I wouldn't call myself a convert, but I'm not against getting a great looking piece like that either. I don't have many SS figures, leaders mostly, but this will be a centerpiece for sure.Hellscream9999 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Okay, I'm very impressed by the detail on The Fallen. I was gonna pass on him because I generally don't care for Bayverse, but that's a good looking figure.
And yes, Rumble is an insta-buy.
You know hasbro's done a figure right if it can make converts out of people
I was gonna wait for the MPM version, but that might be years away and this looks great anyway.
Posted by william-james88 on August 18th, 2022 @ 2:43pm CDT
Rtron wrote:william-james88 wrote:Yeah, this stream was great and streams have gotten better. I like when they just let the designer talk. really loved the bit about interacting with the Lamborghini company and how big an input they had. You never hear about stuff like this.
Exactly, things like that, or the amount of people involved in making Megatron, or them just flat out saying that they couldn't factor Inferno's gun into the budget.
I also did enjoy hearing about how Inferno and Starscream do share that voyager budget and how a change in deco for inferno's ant eyes meant removing paint from Starscream's sword. It does confirm what people have been saying a long time that to understand how a figure comes out, you have to get a sense of the entire wave/class output.
As for the decision, it makes both figures more toy accurate. But at the same time, I woudn't have minded the original plan either. Still, cool to know they think a lot of stuff like that.
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on August 18th, 2022 @ 2:58pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Rtron wrote:william-james88 wrote:Yeah, this stream was great and streams have gotten better. I like when they just let the designer talk. really loved the bit about interacting with the Lamborghini company and how big an input they had. You never hear about stuff like this.
Exactly, things like that, or the amount of people involved in making Megatron, or them just flat out saying that they couldn't factor Inferno's gun into the budget.
I also did enjoy hearing about how Inferno and Starscream do share that voyager budget and how a change in deco for inferno's ant eyes meant removing paint from Starscream's sword. It does confirm what people have been saying a long time that to understand how a figure comes out, you have to get a sense of the entire wave/class output.
As for the decision, it makes both figures more toy accurate. But at the same time, I woudn't have minded the original plan either. Still, cool to know they think a lot of stuff like that.
irnerno lacking the gun is sad, but not the end of the world. His original toy didn't come with it anyway (it came with weird pincers), but an upgrade kit surely will. On the upside, HE HAS MOUTH ARTICULATION! I don't remember seeing mouth articulation before, except maybe legacy metroplex.
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on August 18th, 2022 @ 3:51pm CDT
Forgot to include the link in the news submission, sorry about that!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzLUGe_XgdY&t=110s
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 18th, 2022 @ 4:03pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 18th, 2022 @ 4:12pm CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 18th, 2022 @ 6:48pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on August 18th, 2022 @ 7:23pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Wait hold up, what gun are we talking about on Inferno, the four-barreled one that doubles as its boosters, the one in all the promo pics?
Pretty sure they mean this one.
They wanted to include a weapon but couldn't price it in so they went with the butt gun instead.
Emerje
Posted by Dr. Caelus on August 18th, 2022 @ 8:25pm CDT
Be alert - Ratchet's gun was loose in the box. If I hadn't been pulling it fresh out of the case myself it'd probably be lost to the winds of the toy aisle.
Posted by Emerje on August 18th, 2022 @ 8:44pm CDT
Dr. Caelus wrote:Just scored core class Ratchet and Wheelie for $8.49 each.
Be alert - Ratchet's gun was loose in the box. If I hadn't been pulling it fresh out of the case myself it'd probably be lost to the winds of the toy aisle.
Where from? And yeah, been having some issues myself with parts bouncing around in the box.
Emerje
Posted by Dominus Prime on August 18th, 2022 @ 9:42pm CDT
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on August 18th, 2022 @ 9:48pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Wait hold up, what gun are we talking about on Inferno, the four-barreled one that doubles as its boosters, the one in all the promo pics?
The lack of the flamethrower from the show. The one with ant jaws on it that replaced the claw pincer from the toy.
Posted by Dr. Caelus on August 18th, 2022 @ 10:05pm CDT
Emerje wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:Just scored core class Ratchet and Wheelie for $8.49 each.
Be alert - Ratchet's gun was loose in the box. If I hadn't been pulling it fresh out of the case myself it'd probably be lost to the winds of the toy aisle.
Where from? And yeah, been having some issues myself with parts bouncing around in the box.
Emerje
Target. Sort of an important detail, I guess. Guess I got over excited there.
Posted by william-james88 on August 18th, 2022 @ 11:11pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 18th, 2022 @ 11:17pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 18th, 2022 @ 11:19pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:That's a different altmode configuration from the one Hasbro showed in their livestream.
I guess that's the type of "vehicle" where anything goes.
Also, for such a "big" leader, he's not that much bigger than the original voyager.
Modern Transformers sure got hit hard with the shrink ray...
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 19th, 2022 @ 1:52am CDT
And it looks better.Sabrblade wrote:That's a different altmode configuration from the one Hasbro showed in their livestream.
Posted by Spider5800 on August 19th, 2022 @ 8:11am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Also, for such a "big" leader, he's not that much bigger than the original voyager.
Modern Transformers sure got hit hard with the shrink ray...
In its defense, RotF The Fallen was pretty tall for a voyager back in the day as well. He towered over other voyagers like Starscream. So it might be throwing off things here.
But yeah, if you watch the video, the alt modes when he transforms them are almost exactly the same size. I might still pick this up, just for the more accurate...well, everything, but "big" is kind of relative compared to the massive toys of the earlier movie lines. I have deluxes from RotF that are bigger than today's voyagers.
Posted by First-Aid on August 19th, 2022 @ 8:58am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:And it looks better.Sabrblade wrote:That's a different altmode configuration from the one Hasbro showed in their livestream.
Is it maybe the angle that makes it look that much different?
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 19th, 2022 @ 9:30am CDT
First-Aid wrote:[
Is it maybe the angle that makes it look that much different?
Definitely not.
The thickness of the ships are way different in the front. I guess SS Fallen will be kinda like the 2001 RiD Megatron and can transform into 12 "modes".
Posted by First-Aid on August 19th, 2022 @ 9:33am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:First-Aid wrote:[
Is it maybe the angle that makes it look that much different?
Definitely not.
The thickness of the ships are way different in the front. I guess SS Fallen will be kinda like the 2001 RiD Megatron and can transform into 12 "modes".
Kind of interesting how the Fallen transforms into a almost flying saucer shape.
Wait...kind of reminds me of the ships in Independence Day.
Posted by Spider5800 on August 19th, 2022 @ 10:34am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 19th, 2022 @ 1:00pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Sabrblade wrote:That's a different altmode configuration from the one Hasbro showed in their livestream.
I guess that's the type of "vehicle" where anything goes.
Also, for such a "big" leader, he's not that much bigger than the original voyager.
Modern Transformers sure got hit hard with the shrink ray...
Isn't he bigger than Jetfire from 2014, the first leader in the Gen line we ever had?
Posted by Dr. Caelus on August 19th, 2022 @ 1:03pm CDT
Spider5800 wrote:I actually think they just have it mistransformed. The struts that connect to the arms in bot mode end up in completely different places on the render, like something is supposed to be pulled apart in the back of the vehicle and then connected to the legs/engines that they didn't do.
The main thing I see is that the legs are bent more at the knee in the fan mode, bringing his heels together.
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 19th, 2022 @ 1:36pm CDT
Posted by cloudballoon on August 19th, 2022 @ 10:25pm CDT