In-hand comparison pics of Micromasters from Transformers War for Cybertron SIEGE
Wednesday, November 7th, 2018 2:16PM CST
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This time around, we've got some comparison pictures of SIEGE Micromasters WFC-S4 Roadhandler and Swindler, WFC-S5 Storm Cloud and Visper, and WFC-S6 Topshot and Flak alongside their other versions and with other toys from this line. Each Micromaster is a modern take on their G1 Micromaster versions but also can now combine into a weapon which larger Transformers action figures can utilize.
If you missed the news this past weekend, War for Cybertron SIEGE Battle Masters were already found at Target stores. You can find the DPCI codes in that article as well.
Don't forget to check out our in-hand comparison pics of SIEGE Battle Masters as well as our new galleries of War for Cybertron SIEGE Voyager Class Optimus Prime and Megatron.
WFC-S4 Roadhandler and Swindler
WFC-S5 Storm Cloud and Visper
WFC-S6 Topshot and Flak
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Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 7th, 2018 @ 2:20pm CST
Posted by PerfectVision on November 7th, 2018 @ 2:24pm CST
This variante into my collection?Okay,but then,he is even more similar to hound,and i feel like i must choose beetween two clones.
Posted by Flashwave on November 7th, 2018 @ 2:26pm CST
Posted by Seibertron on November 7th, 2018 @ 2:27pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:See I prefer these new guys to the takara ones but that's just mealso I just can't see the Autobot car Micromasters combined form as a gun, even with the plastic effect part.
I can't really see it either. It basically looks like a car on top of a car. In addition, they don't seem to hold together very well either, nor does the Battle Patrol, unless I'm doing something wrong. By comparison, the Air Strike Patrol snaps together very well.
Posted by Seibertron on November 7th, 2018 @ 2:28pm CST
Flashwave wrote:but good god those colors are bright. It makes me feel like Hasbro hired an Easter Bunny to paint these, and in a toyline that is supposed to be Muted and battle damaged, pastel blue sticks out like a sore thumb. Blowpipe doesnt look like a good nmatch to Triggerhappy
Yah the colors are off to me as well. Especially Firedrive, who is basically white now instead of gray or silver.
Posted by Seibertron on November 7th, 2018 @ 2:29pm CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:Seibertron, any chance we can see some of these new Siege Micro Masters along with some of the earlier Micromaster homages as Targetmasters partners from the Trilling 30 Legends line up of figures?
I'll see what I can do for you!
Posted by autobot00 on November 7th, 2018 @ 2:47pm CST
Posted by Cobotron on November 7th, 2018 @ 2:51pm CST
Great galleries Seibs! I'm excited for all these little accessory bots!
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 7th, 2018 @ 2:58pm CST

Swindler's no longer a DeLorean. Another joke lost... On the bright side, hello there Blackjack!
Posted by william-james88 on November 7th, 2018 @ 3:25pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Swindler's no longer a DeLorean. Another joke lost... On the bright side, hello there Blackjack!
What joke?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 7th, 2018 @ 3:26pm CST
william-james88 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Swindler's no longer a DeLorean. Another joke lost... On the bright side, hello there Blackjack!
What joke?
Look up DeLorean and especially its founder with his... dubious practices.
Posted by Evil Eye on November 7th, 2018 @ 3:31pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:william-james88 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Swindler's no longer a DeLorean. Another joke lost... On the bright side, hello there Blackjack!
What joke?
Look up DeLorean and especially its founder.
Fun fact: The DeLorean is actually a very well-designed car. The problem was that they couldn't get the engine they wanted for it, and as such it was woefully underpowered when it went into production. Someone replaced the engine in one and it was apparently a dream to drive.
Even more ironically, Mr. DeLorean was actually more the Swindled than a Swindler; his company was close to bankruptcy and he got unwittingly roped into a drug sting operation (being told he could save his company). As it happens he won the trial on grounds of entrapment, but his reputation was wrecked and the company fell apart.
Poor, poor Mr. DeLorean.
Posted by autobot00 on November 7th, 2018 @ 3:51pm CST
Cobotron wrote:But they're not retools of the Legends Target Masters. They're completely new sculpts/molds.
they do look very similar in design so maybe not retools exactly, but the point is just that, they are new molds (almost up-scaling of the legends design) and that money and time could have been better spent taking the legends mold and giving it more articulation.
Posted by Sabrblade on November 7th, 2018 @ 3:54pm CST
Maybe the Legends Targetmaster molds didn't conform to Hasbro's toy standards. Like, if they had too many tiny pieces that small children could choke on or something.autobot00 wrote:Cobotron wrote:But they're not retools of the Legends Target Masters. They're completely new sculpts/molds.
they do look very similar in design so maybe not retools exactly, but the point is just that, they are new molds (almost up-scaling of the legends design) and that money and time could have been better spent taking the legends mold and giving it more articulation.
Posted by Skritz on November 7th, 2018 @ 3:57pm CST
In other words, Takara in their Legends day just sold whatever the hell they wanted and it was aimed at fanboys and collectors in the same kind of market things like S.H. Figurarts and Revoltech were. Hasbro meanwhile still intend to stick to a model which is based off 1980 toy selling because it's still (kind of) working.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 7th, 2018 @ 3:59pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Maybe the Legends Targetmaster molds didn't conform to Hasbro's toy standards. Like, if they had too many tiny pieces that small children could choke on or something.autobot00 wrote:Cobotron wrote:But they're not retools of the Legends Target Masters. They're completely new sculpts/molds.
they do look very similar in design so maybe not retools exactly, but the point is just that, they are new molds (almost up-scaling of the legends design) and that money and time could have been better spent taking the legends mold and giving it more articulation.
Or more likely: they were too expensive to produce for their size, especially with the metal pins.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on November 7th, 2018 @ 4:43pm CST

Posted by ZeroWolf on November 7th, 2018 @ 4:48pm CST
Seibertron wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:See I prefer these new guys to the takara ones but that's just mealso I just can't see the Autobot car Micromasters combined form as a gun, even with the plastic effect part.
I can't really see it either. It basically looks like a car on top of a car. In addition, they don't seem to hold together very well either, nor does the Battle Patrol, unless I'm doing something wrong. By comparison, the Air Strike Patrol snaps together very well.
I wonder if its qc, I hope so for the battle patrol. How stable is the air patrol when combined? I was quite happy to see that mode reminds me of the star Saber from armada.
Posted by Seibertron on November 7th, 2018 @ 4:49pm CST
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Those 'weapon modes' for the Micromasters still look embarrasing and dodgy but the figures themselves are nice updates of the originals. Roughly same size with better articulation. They still don't really go with regular size TFs (how the heck are Roadhandler and Swindler supposed to turn into cars the same size as Sideswipes car?) but would be cool to see them interacting with the old bases particularly Countdown's rocket base (which I used to have and love). And if pics like that have been shown already then sorry i haven't checked all pages.
I don't think the Micromasters are supposed to be the same size in their alt modes as the larger Transformers. They're called micromasters and I think that name actually means that they're smaller within the fiction itself and I can't remember where I'm getting this from but I swear that the Beast Wars Transformers took to how the Micromasters had downsized from larger Transformers. Or maybe that was some fan cannon that I hadn't from back in the day
Posted by Skritz on November 7th, 2018 @ 4:57pm CST
Seibertron wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:Those 'weapon modes' for the Micromasters still look embarrasing and dodgy but the figures themselves are nice updates of the originals. Roughly same size with better articulation. They still don't really go with regular size TFs (how the heck are Roadhandler and Swindler supposed to turn into cars the same size as Sideswipes car?) but would be cool to see them interacting with the old bases particularly Countdown's rocket base (which I used to have and love). And if pics like that have been shown already then sorry i haven't checked all pages.
I don't think the Micromasters are supposed to be the same size in their alt modes as the larger Transformers. They're called micromasters and I think that name actually means that they're smaller within the fiction itself and I can't remember where I'm getting this from but I swear that the Beast Wars Transformers took to how the Micromasters had downsized from larger Transformers. Or maybe that was some fan cannon that I hadn't from back in the day
IIRC it was fan-canon for a long time before future writers just went 'yeah, basically it's canon' in all future material. The show clearly state (and later show) that Maximals and Predacons are much, MUCH smaller than their ancestors and more energy-efficient (with Megatron calling the older cybertronians 'archaic guzzlers'). So while the writers may not had heard of the term 'Micromaster' it was clear even in the show's writing and dialogue that they had come to the same conclusion, which is that Cybertronian would become smaller and more energy-efficient.
Which was exactly the point of Micromasters.
Posted by Skritz on November 7th, 2018 @ 5:03pm CST
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Those 'weapon modes' for the Micromasters still look embarrasing and dodgy
Frankly only the car ones is hideous: the others look pretty solid to me for something of their price point.
Man, now I wish Hasbro had committed to a full Micromaster line for a year, it would have been great. I imagine the bigger pricepoints would have been 4-packs like the originals (for deluxe) and some playsets for Voyager and Leader. Shame we won't be getting that.

Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 7th, 2018 @ 5:20pm CST
https://youtu.be/tMX5KUEu-L0
Posted by Skritz on November 7th, 2018 @ 5:36pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 7th, 2018 @ 5:38pm CST
We are. He's coming with Titan class Omega Supreme.Skritz wrote:Btw it would be nice if we got a new Countdown
Posted by Skritz on November 7th, 2018 @ 5:39pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:We are. He's coming with Titan class Omega Supreme.Skritz wrote:Btw it would be nice if we got a new Countdown
Oh. I missed that didn't I? Derp. Also....crap because I don't have the space for any Titan-class figure.

Posted by MGrotusque on November 7th, 2018 @ 7:48pm CST
Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 7th, 2018 @ 7:51pm CST
MGrotusque wrote:THat six gun mold is super loose. I bought it for metroplex a million years ago. Albeit it looks cool ,to me, it's a super floppy mess in the hip department.
Uuuuhhhh...what now?
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on November 7th, 2018 @ 8:21pm CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:MGrotusque wrote:THat six gun mold is super loose. I bought it for metroplex a million years ago. Albeit it looks cool ,to me, it's a super floppy mess in the hip department.
Uuuuhhhh...what now?
He must have a time machine!!!
Posted by Emerje on November 7th, 2018 @ 9:25pm CST
Seibertron wrote:dragons wrote:There mistransformed it’s most popular word that is comment in toy topic may as well add to it mistransformed toy it’s crime
Who is mistransformed?
He seems to take it personally whenever someone mentions something is transformed wrong on here. He goes on these weird little tirades about how people shouldn't point out whenever something is mistransformed. Can't imagine why he thinks we shouldn't point out that a figure might be better than our first impressions. Maybe he's secretly Hasbro's horrible photographer. I'm guessing you mentioning you forgot to extend Megatron's arms triggered him this time.
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Swindler's no longer a DeLorean. Another joke lost... On the bright side, hello there Blackjack!
Blackjack, now that would work. The mold doesn't look particularly like Swindler, but maybe it would look better in black with a new chest/head.
Emerje
Posted by Seibertron on November 7th, 2018 @ 9:27pm CST
This time around, we've got some comparison pictures of SIEGE Deluxe Class WFC-S8 Cog, WFC-S9 Hound, WFC-S7 Sideswipe, and WFC-S10 Skytread (aka Flywheels) alongside their other versions and with other toys from this line. Each highly articulated Deluxe Class figure can interact with the Battle Masters, Micromasters and even with Cog, who is a "Weaponizer" that can come apart to become additional accessories which other Transformers action figures can utilize.
If you missed the news earlier today, SIEGE Voyager and Deluxe Class figures were found at Target. If you are in need of Target DPCI codes for SIEGE, you can find them in a news article from this past weekend.
Don't forget to check out our in-hand comparison pics of Micromasters, SIEGE Battle Masters, and our recent galleries of War for Cybertron SIEGE Voyager Class Optimus Prime and Megatron.
WFC-S8 Cog
WFC-S9 Hound
WFC-S7 Sideswipe
WFC-S10 Skytread (aka Flywheels)
Posted by Emerje on November 7th, 2018 @ 9:40pm CST
Emerje
Posted by Skritz on November 7th, 2018 @ 9:55pm CST
Emerje wrote:I forgot how tall Universe Sideswipe is, I'm glad we're getting a new one.
Emerje
And I had never realized how vividly GREEN Combiner Wars Hound was!
Posted by Seibertron on November 7th, 2018 @ 10:05pm CST
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on November 7th, 2018 @ 10:13pm CST

Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on November 7th, 2018 @ 10:16pm CST
Posted by Flashwave on November 7th, 2018 @ 10:17pm CST
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on November 7th, 2018 @ 10:20pm CST
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on November 7th, 2018 @ 10:25pm CST
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on November 7th, 2018 @ 10:34pm CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:MGrotusque wrote:THat six gun mold is super loose. I bought it for metroplex a million years ago. Albeit it looks cool ,to me, it's a super floppy mess in the hip department.
Uuuuhhhh...what now?
He must have a time machine!!!
Call it a hunch but I think he is talking about the TFC Six-Gun (Gear of War 3 or something like that), which is almost nothing like this one, though he is right about that figure, because that thing couldn't hold it's own weight to save its life if I remember correctly.

Posted by Wireless_Phantom on November 7th, 2018 @ 10:38pm CST
SillyMcGilly wrote:Here is a theory: What if this new trilogy is literally a G1 update to where line 1 (Siege) is for G1 season 1, and the next line will have characters like Blaster and Cliffjumper and maybe more Earthen modes, and line 3 will be like G1 season 3 with Galvatron and a voyager Rodimus Prime?
Nope. Cog never even showed up in the cartoon, the micromasters never showed up in the cartoon, Flywheels was never in the cartoon, the Target Masters didn't show up until season 3, Six-Gun only had one appearance which was either in season 2 or 3, and Magnus didn't show up until the film. It definitely isn't a straight G1 update line. Still, it would be nice to get a proper Cliffjumper and a Blaster who isn't enormous.

Posted by Sabrblade on November 7th, 2018 @ 10:41pm CST
Targetmasters were Season 4, Six-Gun was Season 3.Wireless_Phantom wrote:SillyMcGilly wrote:Here is a theory: What if this new trilogy is literally a G1 update to where line 1 (Siege) is for G1 season 1, and the next line will have characters like Blaster and Cliffjumper and maybe more Earthen modes, and line 3 will be like G1 season 3 with Galvatron and a voyager Rodimus Prime?
Nope. Cog never even showed up in the cartoon, the micromasters never showed up in the cartoon, Flywheels was never in the cartoon, the Target Masters didn't show up until season 3, Six-Gun only had one appearance which was either in season 2 or 3, and Magnus didn't show up until the film. It definitely isn't a straight G1 update line. Still, it would be nice to get a proper Cliffjumper and a Blaster who isn't enormous.![]()
Posted by Emerje on November 7th, 2018 @ 10:58pm CST
SillyMcGilly wrote:Here is a theory: What if this new trilogy is literally a G1 update to where line 1 (Siege) is for G1 season 1, and the next line will have characters like Blaster and Cliffjumper and maybe more Earthen modes, and line 3 will be like G1 season 3 with Galvatron and a voyager Rodimus Prime?
I'm doubtful, we've basically just had season 3 in Titans Return. At SDCC we were told to look at this as a G1 "expanded universe" and not a dedicated G1 line. They also said they were going to "debunk" the fans saying they don't like Beast Wars and the Unicron Trilogy in the coming years. I think after they start things up with Siege we're going to see some really crazy character inclusions in 2020.
Emerje
Posted by steve2275 on November 8th, 2018 @ 12:41am CST
alright
Posted by KVO Prime on November 8th, 2018 @ 1:50am CST
Posted by X3ROhour on November 8th, 2018 @ 2:44am CST
used to be less than $20
i remember paying $35 for Optimal Op
back in BW days.
THAT nearly gave my wife a stroke.
now i feel old.
Posted by 1984forever on November 8th, 2018 @ 2:51am CST
KVO Prime wrote:I need to confess something here and now... I wanted to hate this SIEGE line... I wanted to think the 'battle damage' would ruin it for me.. but damn. These guys are all lookin real good. Hasbro is getting raw and robotic. I was going to get Cog and Sixgun anyway, so... it makes natural sense to get Prowl, Red Alert, Sideswipe, Hound, Optimus Prime, and then all the battle masters and micromasters to go with them. They look cool and it's a line that really synergizes with itself well; maybe even better than titans return(?)
The battle damage comes off easily in some areas... others not so much. My Siege Megatron came in the mail today before the Gundam paint remover marker I ordered had arrived. Me being of no patience at all, I walked over to Walgreens, got some 91% proof and started rubbing the battle damage off his chest. The paint came off of his chest with ease, but the paint on his legs and treads refuses to budge. My Sideswipe is supposedly arriving today. If the paint won’t rub off of his legs either, then I’ll take a can of testors to both figs.
Posted by crash8burnt on November 8th, 2018 @ 4:03am CST
SillyMcGilly wrote:Here is a theory: What if this new trilogy is literally a G1 update to where line 1 (Siege) is for G1 season 1, and the next line will have characters like Blaster and Cliffjumper and maybe more Earthen modes, and line 3 will be like G1 season 3 with Galvatron and a voyager Rodimus Prime?
Totally agree with u!

These are the figures I've been waiting for.. and it's abt time for a Rodimus Vs Galvatron showdown. And what's soundwave without blaster.
The final figures all look fantastic. Gonna to get them all except for Skytread. Really like that Cog, but too bad won't be getting it unless they come up with Fasttrack.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on November 8th, 2018 @ 4:18am CST
Posted by PerfectVision on November 8th, 2018 @ 7:41am CST
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Even when you add all those guns and stuff, Sideswipe still looks boring as heck.
I prefer Hound.But i'm imperméable to the "weapons everywhere on you" style,i wonder how you can aim or watch around you or hear or being alive with just weapons inside you,it always look bad anyway.