McDonald's Beast Wars Transformers galleries ... and the origin of Seibertron.com?
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Manta Ray | Panther | Beetle | Rhino | Under-3 |
The McDonald's Beast Wars figures represent a very distinct moment in the history of the Transformers brand. I had discovered my last Generation 2 figure about 10 months earlier in May 1995. On the back of an upper shelf at a KB Toy store at the Genesee Valley mall near Flint, MI, I had discovered Laser Rod Optimus Prime stashed behind several other toys. I had never seen this figure before and was truly elated at this very incredible incarnation of the most iconic Transformer ever. For many months, I thought Laser Rod Optimus Prime was THE last Transformer. I scoured the local Kmarts in the Flint suburbs where I grew up as well as a several Targets for many months but never found any new Transformers. Not only was this before the Internet would drastically change our lives, it was also before I had ever discovered a little store chain called "Wal-Mart."
Fast forward 8 months later to January 1996. There was a brand spanking new "Big K" (a Kmart store variant that was comparable to many of Wal-Mart's stores) that had recently opened near the McDonald's that I worked at as a teenager on Owen Rd. in Fenton, MI. Shortly after that stores grand opening (which was a HUGE deal to this town back then after the old school Kmart store had closed on the other side of town), I discovered a new series of "Beast Wars Transformers" figures. I didn't discover these in the fall of 1995 like many other Transformers fans have claimed to have found these figures.
Cover Artwork | Beetle | ||
This new line of transforming animals was apparently a product of one of Hasbro's competitors, Kenner. I had thought that Hasbro must've sold the Transformers brand to the highest bidder due to the obvious decline in sales toward the end of the Generation 2 line. Little did I know at that time that Hasbro had actually purchased Kenner recently (which was most famous for its Star Wars line) and had decided to move all of their action figure lines to that "brand".
The first set of figures that I purchased was the Optimus "Primal" and Megatron 2 pack that came with a mini-comic book that reminded me of the mini-comics that used to accompany Mattel's Masters of the Universe line during the 1980s. It was a no-brainer since those were the only names that I had recognized amongst toys such as Cheetor, Waspinator, Rattrap and Razorbeast.
Cheetor | Dinobot | ||
I thought it was very odd that Kenner would make two of the most powerful Transformers not much bigger than the Generation 2 Cyberjets. It also struck me as odd that they were not using the Autobot and Decepticon factions. What the heck were these "Maximals" and "Predacons"? Did Hasbro not sell Kenner the rights to some of their copyrights? And why did "Optimus Primal" turn into a bat and Megatron turn into an alligator? What happened to the Transformers?
After I opened the package and read the mini-comic book, I realized that these new Transformers didn't appear to have any relation to the Transformers I had grown up with. The comic pretty much made sure that I knew that these weren't Hasbro's Transformers. "Bio-Genetic Engineering?" Animals? No Energon? Seriously -- c'mon Kenner! Regardless, this was a test of my loyalty to the "transforming" from one thing into a robot concept under the "Transformers" product banner. I knew I didn't like other transforming robot toy lines such as the failed Gobots line from Tonka so I bought a few of the other figures that I could afford at that time.
Iguanus | Manta Ray | ||
Fast forward a month later to February 1996. As I mentioned above, I was working at McDonald's as a "swing manager" (basically a "shift manager") at that time while I was unsuccessfully attending the University of Michigan's community college in Flint. Imagine my surprise one day when we were received some paperwork about an upcoming Happy Meal promotion that we would be receiving: "Transformers Beast Wars" for the boys alongside "The Littlest Pet Shop" for the girls.
I'm sure a smile gleaned across my face as I noticed the classic Generation 2 "Transformers" logo next to the Generation 2 Autobot symbol above the words "Beast Wars". This wasn't "Beast Wars Transformers" ... this was "Transformers Beast Wars" with the word "Transformers" positioned dominantly over the words "Beast Wars" instead of the other way around. Imagine how thrilled I was to see the use of the G2 font and Autobot logo after a couple of months of wondering what the heck Kenner had done to the Transformers line I thought they had bought from Hasbro.
As the weeks went by, we received more promotional materials for the McDonald's Beast Wars Happy Meal toys. My hopes were quickly dashed that there would be a continuation of Generation 1 or 2 styled Transformers to accompany the Beast Wars figures I had purchased at Kmart. Instead, they were these lame little beast figures with extremely generic names: Manta Ray, Beetle, Panther and Rhino. I'll let you use your imagination to figure out what each figure transformed into. There was even an unnamed toy designed for children under three that was a head of a lion that turned into an Optimus Prime looking character.
Megatron | Optimus Primal | ||
Once we received the Happy Meal display piece for our restaurant, I gladly volunteered to set it up. I thought it was pretty cool to have loved the Transformers for so long that I was able to set these up first hand. Looking back at this experience, it wasn't really that big of a deal but I sure thought it was at the time. And to think that my parents had wanted me to work at VG's, a local grocery store chain on the east side of Michigan!
The induction of the McDonald's Beast Wars figures led to a stream of creativity on my behalf. The new Happy Meal boxes, which featured a lot of new artwork for the Beast Wars figures as well as the McDonald's figures, really helped me accept these figures as official Transformers figures. I had even gone so far as to draw character sheets for all of the Beast Wars Transformers that I owned after I had come up with an idea to incorporate these new Transformers into the Generation One stories I had grown up with (thanks to McDonald's use of the Generation 2 Transformers font and Autobot logo). I even have the artwork still to show you guys my cartoon-styled take on these "Beast Wars" guys. Optimus and Megatron were who they always were, Terrorsaur was the new Starscream type character (most likely due to his alternate mode and wings in robot mode), Tarantulas was my new Soundwave type character (most likely due to the visor on his face) and Cheetor was my new Prowl type character (most likely due to me thinking that a cheetah would "prowl" and because I thought his face kind of looked like Prowl's at the time). This was months before the Beast Wars cartoon's pilot episodes aired on television and about 6 months prior to Cheetor's dream sequence which cameoed the Decepticon Starscream in "The Web".
Panther | Rattrap | ||
Within a couple of months, my excitement about the Beast Wars Transformers really started to heat up. I was very excited about my beliefs that these could be new incarnations of the characters that I had grown up with (even thought some of my character associations didn't really make at the time looking back on all of this). As I continued to purchase more and more of these Beast Wars figures, I had grown to accept them. Sure it was a new take on the Transformers, but I was enjoying these new incarnations just the same (much to my own surprise).
After buying a toy magazine sometime in the spring of 1996, I saw an advertisement for a Transformers convention called "Botcon" that would was going to be held in Chicago over the 4th of July weekend run by a local group of guys from Ypsilanti, MI who went by "The Men-In-Black". After so many years of thinking I was the only person around into Transformers, I was very excited about the prospect of meeting other Transformers fans at this "Botcon" convention, I had begun working on a fan newsletter I called "Trans-Forum". Fortunately I had ended my employment at McDonald's by this time at 19 to start working as a car salesman for the Al Serra dealership organization after dropping out of college 3 times. To start a reader base for Trans-Forum, I grabbed all of the names and addresses I could find from the letter pages in the Marvel's "Transformers" and "Transformers: Generation 2" comic books. The first issue of Trans-Forum went out to almost 100 people in May 1996. I even made a special "Botcon" edition which I gave away to people at Botcon 1996 in Chicago. The fanbase for Trans-Forum continued to grow year after year which led to the next phase of my involvement with the Transformers community.
Razorbeast | Rhino | ||
Some time during 1998, I began working on a new Generation One comic book that took place after Marvel's run of the original Transformers comic book. I was fascinated with the Japanese terminology which I had only begun to learn about back in 1995 after purchasing a bootleg Masterforce video. The Internet had exposed me to a new word that I really liked which the Japanese used for the name of the Transformers homeplanet Cybertron: "Seibertron". This word would be the title of the comic book idea that I had because I wanted to implement key elements from the American continuity as well as the Japanese continuity which I had recently discovered. The "Seibertron" comic book gained mention in one of the issues of the Trans-Forum fanzine during that year.
Trans-Forum eventually evolved into Seibertron.com during the summer of 2000 as I had become more and more fascinated with the prospect of making my own website on the Internet to showcase my interests in the Transformers. That's a whole other story in itself that I might go into another time.
Tarantulas | Terrorsaur | ||
I attribute my interests in contributing to the Transformers community to the McDonald's Beast Wars figures. Maybe the Beast Wars cartoon would have prompted me to get involved with the community. Maybe not. It was the McDonald's Beast Wars Transformers that got me to imagine that these new characters were somehow tied into the original Transformers. While the McDonald's Beast Wars figures might not be that exciting individually, I attribute the start of Trans-Forum to this Happy Meal promotion which eventually led to the creation of Seibertron.com.
If you were wondering at the start of this article why the McDonald's Beast Wars Transformers have almost 400 images amongst their galleries, I hope you now understand how special these figures are to me. I wanted to treat these figures just like I would any other Transformer toy since I consider these 5 toys to be a part of the official Transformers toy line. Each gallery is complete with comparison pictures of the other figures from this set, comparison pictures with the other Beast Wars characters who were pictured on the Happy Meal boxes, detailed photographs of the Happy Meal boxes, scans and photographs of my artwork of these figures and even a couple of special items that I had retained from my tenure as a McDonald employee such as the reference card as well as the instructions for putting together the store's display for this Happy Meal promotion.
Waspinator | |||
I hope all of you enjoyed this flashback in time and that maybe you learned something new about the origin of Seibertron.com. I wouldn't do all of this endless work if it wasn't for such an amazing audience of people that I get to entertain. I hope that all of you are enjoying the hard work that myself and the entire staff puts into this website every day. Isn't it interesting to think that you might just owe your enjoyment of this site to the McDonald's Beast Wars Transformers? Thank you for supporting Seibertron.com ... it's been a wild ride for me personally during the past 10 years. I can't wait to see what happens in the next 10 years.
Ryan Yzquierdo
Seibertron.com
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Posted by Seibertron on May 2nd, 2007 @ 8:49pm CDT
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Posted by crazyfists on May 2nd, 2007 @ 8:58pm CDT
Posted by Duke of Luns on May 2nd, 2007 @ 9:12pm CDT
At any rate, I swear I smelled french fries when I took a look at that happy-meal box.
Nice galleries .
Posted by Supreme Convoy on May 2nd, 2007 @ 9:14pm CDT
Thanks for sharing, man!
Posted by TheMuffin on May 2nd, 2007 @ 9:15pm CDT
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Posted by Skowl on May 2nd, 2007 @ 9:22pm CDT
I always liked the happy meal guys, especially the Transmetal ones from the later years. The Manta Ray is still my favourite of the bunch!
Great stuff Ryan, thanks for sharing, 'tis a great story!
Posted by Silver Wind on May 2nd, 2007 @ 9:27pm CDT
Posted by Seibertron on May 2nd, 2007 @ 9:34pm CDT
Spooner wrote:I had no idea you were from the Flint area - I've lived in and around Flint (Grand Blanc currently) since '95; we had probably crossed paths in the toy aisles more than once.
I grew up in Fenton and attended school in Linden (graduated in 1995). I moved to East Lansing in 1997, moved to Grand Rapids in 1998, then moved to Chicago in 2002 where I've lived ever since. I still make it back to that neck of the woods now and then. My Dad lives in the Milford area (he works as a car salesman at the Al Serra Auto Plaza) and the rest of my family lives in Holland, MI. My Grandma lives in Grand Blanc off Fenton Rd.
Posted by Seibertron on May 2nd, 2007 @ 9:38pm CDT
Silver Wind wrote:Thanks for sharing your story, Seibertron. I always love getting to read up on backstories, whether it be Real Life or some fiction work.
I'm glad you enjoyed the story. Thanks for reading it!
Posted by skywarp-2 on May 2nd, 2007 @ 9:45pm CDT
also if you follow my myspace link, it leads to my page and my real name, but you have to send me a message in order to get more info, i had a stalker ex girlfriend so i had to set it on private..
Posted by Spooner on May 2nd, 2007 @ 9:46pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:Spooner wrote:I had no idea you were from the Flint area - I've lived in and around Flint (Grand Blanc currently) since '95; we had probably crossed paths in the toy aisles more than once.
I grew up in Fenton and attended school in Linden (graduated in 1995). I moved to East Lansing in 1997, moved to Grand Rapids in 1998, then moved to Chicago in 2002 where I've lived ever since. I still make it back to that neck of the woods now and then. My Dad lives in the Milford area (he works as a car salesman at the Al Serra Auto Plaza) and the rest of my family lives in Holland, MI. My Grandma lives in Grand Blanc off Fenton Rd.
Cool. I moved here mainly because my wife's family is here, and this is where she wanted to stay. I'm from a backwater town in the SW corner of the state, went to U of M Ann Arbor, met her while working a summer at Cedar Point, finished school, got married, and the rest is history.
Oh, and I dig Transformers, too.
Posted by Sentinel Pax on May 2nd, 2007 @ 9:58pm CDT
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Posted by Head Shot on May 2nd, 2007 @ 10:07pm CDT
one problem though, the new story is mislabeled, panther and beetle are switched around above the picture of the toys.
Posted by Seibertron on May 2nd, 2007 @ 10:09pm CDT
He also sent me this picture of the Transformers at the Big K. Looks like they got the Movie figures in today as well.
Posted by TheMuffin on May 2nd, 2007 @ 10:11pm CDT
Posted by Seibertron on May 2nd, 2007 @ 10:16pm CDT
Head Shot wrote:Uhm, nice flash back, really nice, (reminds me of the transition between g2, and beast wars, and ironically enough your story of the bat primal and croc megs is indentical to mine, however I was like okay cool, a bat and alligator. ) But I was about 7 when beast wars came out, and I was psyched to see this after seeing g2 sadly end.
one problem though, the new story is mislabeled, panther and beetle are switched around above the picture of the toys.
I'm glad you liked the flashback, Head Shot. Thanks for pointing out that I had the text flipped for two of the galleries. I've updated the story to reflect this change.
http://www.seibertron.com/news/view.php?id=10200
Posted by Seibertron on May 2nd, 2007 @ 10:19pm CDT
GetterDragun wrote:That was a really cool read! Impressive artwork as well!
Thanks GetterDragun! And to think that it was my artwork that made me start this website 7 years ago. Funny how I never got around to using it to showcase my artwork like I had originally planned. Ah well ... I think I'm enjoying this route a lot more. One day I'll get back to drawing again!
Posted by Ninja Sixshot on May 2nd, 2007 @ 10:24pm CDT
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Posted by Seibertron on May 2nd, 2007 @ 11:22pm CDT
D-340 wrote:Great read, Seibs. I had always wondered how sites like this get started, and now I know. Very cool.
Ah you know but a small part of the origin of Seibertron.com. The McDonald's Beast Wars story is what got me excited enough about Beast Wars to start Trans-Forum, my pre-Seibertron.com contribution(s) to the fandom. One day I'll tell you guys the actual story behind Seibertron.com though I don't think it's all that exciting.
Posted by dabattousai on May 3rd, 2007 @ 2:19am CDT
BTW, those are really good drawings.
EDIT: I just picked up the preview TFs at my K-Mart haha, just thought that was interesting since you posted the pic of K-Mart with them hanging
Posted by Anonymous on May 3rd, 2007 @ 2:39am CDT
One: What is the secret sauce?! Is it really thousand island?
Two: Why the hell was the arch deluxe bacon round?
On another note, that's a really cool story. Seriously.
Posted by City Commander on May 3rd, 2007 @ 8:15am CDT
My first tfs were Laser Rod Prime and G2 Grimlock. Then I got the Bat Primal and gator Megs figures.
It seems so long ago now; and that's cos it is...
Posted by Liege Evilmus on May 3rd, 2007 @ 8:20am CDT
I had a bunch of TFs as a kid and (foolishly) gave them away when I thought I outgrew them.
After I did that I got a couple Machine Wars planes who sadly fell to the dreaded Bic Lighter. Then I pretty much gave up on TFs also Thinking that was it, they where done.
When I got my first car I drove to a TRU o n a larf looking for some TFs and the clerks didn't even know what I was talking about. Leaving I stopped at a McDonalds and got a HappyMeal (being broke sucks) and in it I got the Rhino toy.
Not even knowing what Beast Wars was, I dubbed him Captain Crap, and he still holds that name and a place in my collection to this day.
Still, McDonalds does these toys to promote new stuff, so it dawned on me that there must be more out there. I went to a KBToys and found a BW Scorponok and bought him on site.
From there it spread!!!!
Shortly after I also found a Laser Prime(the KB by me still had many G2 and MW toys that I sadly didn't get). Then the hunt was on, Inferno, a show favorite of mine was next. Then I had a score at a flee market in PA, a guy selling his entire G1 collection for next to nothing.
I got the Devastator gift set, Scorponoc, Wreck-Garr, Grimlock, and a ton of little guys for $60 from a sad man who had his wife lording over him.
But from these beginings it just snowballed into me now having 2 rooms filled with over 4000 bots boxed, loose, and ever growing!
Posted by Flashback77 on May 3rd, 2007 @ 8:27am CDT
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Posted by Seibertron on May 3rd, 2007 @ 9:15am CDT
Godmodule wrote:So dude, Ryan, tell me 2 things:
One: What is the secret sauce?! Is it really thousand island?
Two: Why the hell was the arch deluxe bacon round?
On another note, that's a really cool story. Seriously.
That's a good question. It does taste a little different than thousand island dressing to me, but for the most I'd say it's the same.
As for the Arch Deluxe bacon being round instead of strips? I don't know. Ironically, I quit on the day that McDonald's rolled out the Arch Deluxe (May 9th, 1996). I hated our new store manager and wanted a new job. So I just walked out the next time she was a bitch to me. I had had enough after 2.5 years ... enough was enough.
Posted by Ransom on May 3rd, 2007 @ 10:35am CDT
By the way, thank you for the article link crazyfists. I always wondered about how my oldest sister's transforming french fries toy came to be. I've tried to locate it, but alas I think it is another casualty of our room.
Posted by Loki120 on May 3rd, 2007 @ 11:03am CDT
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Posted by Head Shot on May 3rd, 2007 @ 2:57pm CDT
I HAVE HAD IT WITH THESE MOTHER F***ING SNAKES ON THIS MOTHER F***ING TRANSFORMER!Seibertron wrote:Godmodule wrote:So dude, Ryan, tell me 2 things:
One: What is the secret sauce?! Is it really thousand island?
Two: Why the hell was the arch deluxe bacon round?
On another note, that's a really cool story. Seriously.
enough was enough.
Posted by Megatron Wolf on May 3rd, 2007 @ 3:36pm CDT
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Posted by Superquad7 on May 3rd, 2007 @ 10:18pm CDT
. . . and the McD BW TFs have inspired a great website! Keep up the great work!
Posted by Danish-Liokaiser on May 4th, 2007 @ 2:32am CDT
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Posted by DeathCaller on May 6th, 2007 @ 12:01am CDT
Can't beleive I didn't know about Transformers back then... crud...
Posted by Seibertron on May 6th, 2007 @ 1:05am CDT
Leonardo wrote:Ryan, do you still have the mini-comic book? If so, could you can it into the VSD perhaps?
Hey Leonardo,
I most certainly do have the mini-comic. One day when I do the catalogs I might scan it in.
Posted by slugslinger-beta on May 18th, 2007 @ 5:02am CDT
but the thing that brought me in was the waspinator figure he was my first
Posted by Seibertron on May 18th, 2007 @ 7:01am CDT
slugslinger-beta wrote:coincidentally i live in wyoming mi and about that time i was looking too but im a bit younger than you siebertron i came in when beast wars was airing on the week days in the early afternoon
but the thing that brought me in was the waspinator figure he was my first
Ah, good ol' Wyoming, MI. Before I moved to Chicago, I lived in the Grand Rapids area. I lived at Ramblewood for about a year off 44th st across from Damen's and then moved to the apartments across the highway near Walmart, Burger King and Cracker Barrel (Brookfield?) for about 3 years. River Town Crossings mall is probably the best mall I've ever been to. My Dad and I stopped by TGI Friday's to have a couple of beers on Saturday en route to Holland for the Tulip Time parade.