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New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set

Transformers News: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set

Thursday, September 2nd, 2021 11:37PM CDT

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Hasbro seems very confident in their latest Haslab project. The prototypes are currently on display at the Boston Fan Expo. As a tie in to the event, Hasbro has released more images of Victory Saber, showing some different details and poses. We have a clear shot of the brainmaster mechanism (well, what it looks like when you insert the smaller figure inside the chest) for instance. Victory Leo is prominently featured with the V Cannon, which is a sign that Hasbro is quite confident (or adamant) in getting to that first tier. Right now, a myriad of countries can join in on the fun in ordering this set. If ever you are not sure how to place your order, drop a comment to this post in the message boards.

Transformers News: New Images of Victory Saber From Hasbro

Transformers News: New Images of Victory Saber From Hasbro

Transformers News: New Images of Victory Saber From Hasbro

Transformers News: New Images of Victory Saber From Hasbro

Transformers News: New Images of Victory Saber From Hasbro

Transformers News: New Images of Victory Saber From Hasbro

Transformers News: New Images of Victory Saber From Hasbro

Transformers News: New Images of Victory Saber From Hasbro

Transformers News: New Images of Victory Saber From Hasbro
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Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2114919)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 3rd, 2021 @ 4:38am CDT
I'm getting more and more exited by the day!
I'm looking forward the colored shots and to know what the other tiers are.
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2114922)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on September 3rd, 2021 @ 6:10am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm getting more and more exited by the day!
I'm looking forward the colored shots and to know what the other tiers are.

Lol, other tiers? Its been stuck at below 5500 for a few days, I'd start getting worried instead, as it seems to have stalled :-s
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2114923)
Posted by griftimus prime on September 3rd, 2021 @ 6:16am CDT
i chose not to back this one because i am not a fan of how the upper legs looked so short in combined mode. but im getting there. these new pics look way better.
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2114926)
Posted by Emerje on September 3rd, 2021 @ 6:48am CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm getting more and more exited by the day!
I'm looking forward the colored shots and to know what the other tiers are.

Lol, other tiers? Its been stuck at below 5500 for a few days, I'd start getting worried instead, as it seems to have stalled :-s

That's only the orders from Pulse and Pulse UK and there's still over a month to go so I don't see any reason to be concerned at all yet. A lot of people are going to wait for colored renders or painted prototypes before they commit. We'll see massive jump towards the end once the international and third party shops get tallied in.

Emerje
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2114927)
Posted by Autobot N on September 3rd, 2021 @ 7:13am CDT
Emerje wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm getting more and more exited by the day!
I'm looking forward the colored shots and to know what the other tiers are.

Lol, other tiers? Its been stuck at below 5500 for a few days, I'd start getting worried instead, as it seems to have stalled :-s

That's only the orders from Pulse and Pulse UK and there's still over a month to go so I don't see any reason to be concerned at all yet. A lot of people are going to wait for colored renders or painted prototypes before they commit. We'll see massive jump towards the end once the international and third party shops get tallied in.

Emerje
Yeah, I'm not worried atm. If we've already basically hit 5500 from 3 countries (didn't forget you this time WJ88) that Star Saber has no exposure in, then we'll doubtless get a huge boost once the international numbers come in, especially from Japan.
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2114929)
Posted by william-james88 on September 3rd, 2021 @ 8:11am CDT
Autobot N wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm getting more and more exited by the day!
I'm looking forward the colored shots and to know what the other tiers are.

Lol, other tiers? Its been stuck at below 5500 for a few days, I'd start getting worried instead, as it seems to have stalled :-s

That's only the orders from Pulse and Pulse UK and there's still over a month to go so I don't see any reason to be concerned at all yet. A lot of people are going to wait for colored renders or painted prototypes before they commit. We'll see massive jump towards the end once the international and third party shops get tallied in.

Emerje
Yeah, I'm not worried atm. If we've already basically hit 5500 from 3 countries (didn't forget you this time WJ88) that Star Saber has no exposure in, then we'll doubtless get a huge boost once the international numbers come in, especially from Japan.


Haha thanks! And I'm not worried either.
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2114930)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on September 3rd, 2021 @ 8:13am CDT
Autobot N wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm getting more and more exited by the day!
I'm looking forward the colored shots and to know what the other tiers are.

Lol, other tiers? Its been stuck at below 5500 for a few days, I'd start getting worried instead, as it seems to have stalled :-s

That's only the orders from Pulse and Pulse UK and there's still over a month to go so I don't see any reason to be concerned at all yet. A lot of people are going to wait for colored renders or painted prototypes before they commit. We'll see massive jump towards the end once the international and third party shops get tallied in.

Emerje
Yeah, I'm not worried atm. If we've already basically hit 5500 from 3 countries (didn't forget you this time WJ88) that Star Saber has no exposure in, then we'll doubtless get a huge boost once the international numbers come in, especially from Japan.


Also, when I checked last night it wasn't even at 5500 yet, so no way it could have been stuck there for days.
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2114932)
Posted by william-james88 on September 3rd, 2021 @ 9:05am CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Autobot N wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm getting more and more exited by the day!
I'm looking forward the colored shots and to know what the other tiers are.

Lol, other tiers? Its been stuck at below 5500 for a few days, I'd start getting worried instead, as it seems to have stalled :-s

That's only the orders from Pulse and Pulse UK and there's still over a month to go so I don't see any reason to be concerned at all yet. A lot of people are going to wait for colored renders or painted prototypes before they commit. We'll see massive jump towards the end once the international and third party shops get tallied in.

Emerje
Yeah, I'm not worried atm. If we've already basically hit 5500 from 3 countries (didn't forget you this time WJ88) that Star Saber has no exposure in, then we'll doubtless get a huge boost once the international numbers come in, especially from Japan.


Also, when I checked last night it wasn't even at 5500 yet, so no way it could have been stuck there for days.


Plus, let's think about it.
It's halfway there on only 3 countries and there is always a major push near the end.
Man, I'm gonna start making some space on my shelf.
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2114948)
Posted by o.supreme on September 3rd, 2021 @ 1:54pm CDT
Woahhhhh, we're half way there...
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2114960)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on September 3rd, 2021 @ 3:32pm CDT
Out of curiosity, is anyone who is planning on backing but hasn't yet waiting to try to time it and be number 11000?
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2114962)
Posted by o.supreme on September 3rd, 2021 @ 3:38pm CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Out of curiosity, is anyone who is planning on backing but hasn't yet waiting to try to time it and be number 11000?


*raises hand* ;) . However, when I found out that you don't get any official notification from Hasbro of which backer number(s) you are, you only have to go back to the order screen and screenshot real quick, I realized anybody could do that, so it became far less fun of an idea. Plus there is a good chance that if they do a mass count of cooperating vendors, international orders etc. as the deadline gets closer, it could jump by several hundred in a short span of time.

Also just an odd observation; I was watching it for probably the last 30 or so minutes before it got to 5500. At one point the number actually went down by a little bit, indicating , I guess you can cancel your order...
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2114963)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 3rd, 2021 @ 3:40pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:Also just an odd observation; I was watching it for probably the last 30 or so minutes before it got to 5500. At one point the number actually went down by a little bit, indicating , I guess you can cancel your order...


Oh yes you can.
That's how I escaped from Unicron.
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115023)
Posted by Asepticon on September 4th, 2021 @ 3:03pm CDT
For the love of god, put some forearm covers on Saber.
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115031)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 4th, 2021 @ 3:36pm CDT
In-person photos of the gray prototype on display at Fan Expo Boston.
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115046)
Posted by First-Aid on September 4th, 2021 @ 5:52pm CDT
How big are these figures going to be? Any details? Those pics make it look fairly hefty.
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115047)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 4th, 2021 @ 6:01pm CDT
First-Aid wrote:How big are these figures going to be? Any details? Those pics make it look fairly hefty.
Sabrblade wrote:Size comparison from TFW:

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Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115048)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on September 4th, 2021 @ 6:02pm CDT
Do we know if the V-lock cannon can attach to the hip of Victory Leo like on the original toy?
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115049)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on September 4th, 2021 @ 6:04pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Do we know if the V-lock cannon can attach to the hip of Victory Leo like on the original toy?

They showed off during the reveal stream that it can. Someone also noticed that Victory Leo has 5mm ports just above the gatling guns too
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115050)
Posted by Emerje on September 4th, 2021 @ 6:12pm CDT
First-Aid wrote:How big are these figures going to be? Any details? Those pics make it look fairly hefty.

1-inch Brain of Courage Brainmaster figure
5-inch Autobot Saber figure
8.5-inch V-Star jet
7.5-inch Victory Leo figure

If V-Star is 8.5 then Star Saber should be closer to 10" which seems about right when looking at Star Saber and Leo together. Combined they might be closer to 12".

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Those display shots make the posing look a lot more appealing, that's for sure. And I like the work around they came up with for Leo's visible hands in VS mode, simple but very effective.

Emerje
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115067)
Posted by william-james88 on September 4th, 2021 @ 10:13pm CDT
Fellow Seibertronian Sabrblade has alerted us of some fun new images of the prototypes being showcased at the Boston Fan Expo by Hasbro as part of the Haslab Victory Saber project. The images come from Xellos who posted on The Allspark. We also have some from TFs on Vacation who posed them on the TFW boards. They had the recent Generations Punch/Counterpunch with them for a scale comparison and gave a description of the sizes. Star Saber himself was said to be slightly taller than a Titans Return leader class figure. And looing at the comparison with the deluxe figure on hand, Victory Leo seems more in line with a big voyager class toy. A comparison image posted by Bravemaximike makes it look like the combined Victory Saber mode is almost as big as Commander class Jetfire. Here are the images below for you to enjoy! They were first posted here.

Also, for those wondering, with only orders from US, Canada and UK, the number of orders for this project is currently 5669. Here is the link to the page on Pulse.

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Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115068)
Posted by Autobot N on September 4th, 2021 @ 10:26pm CDT
Looks fantastic!
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115078)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 5th, 2021 @ 10:58am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Fellow Seibertronian Sabrblade has alerted us of some fun new images of the prototypes being showcased at the Boston Fan Expo by Hasbro as part of the Haslab Victory Saber project. The images come from TFs on Vacation who posed them on the TFW boards.
Those aren't the pics I linked to in my news submission. These are, from Xellos on The Allspark (different person):

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Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115080)
Posted by optimeow on September 5th, 2021 @ 11:55am CDT
My fears of Victory Leo’s Lion face being flattish has been laid to rest. Yay! Looks great now :)

Still don’t like the fact that Victory Leo’s cannons are not full cylinders. The under side looks ugly when the cannons are pointing upwards :(

I do hope we hit 14000 to get the V-lock Cannon. It would be a shame if we had to go third-party for that. Victory Leo would never be complete without it.

It would also be really great if the packaging paid homage to the original Victory Saber 2-pack.

I wish we get swapple face plates for the brain master as a stretch goal if we can even get to 17000 or a sword that looks more like the anime (which the MP had). A flight stand for the combined mode would be nice too. HasLab, I hope one of you reads this,
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115081)
Posted by o.supreme on September 5th, 2021 @ 12:53pm CDT
While all Selects until now, and even Unicron had a plain brown packaging, we've seen a bit of upscale in the Galactic Odyssey series having more details on the inner package. I am curious to see what the Golden Disk series looks like as well as Black Zarak, the first Titan Selects. I'm hoping for a more detailed package, so we shall see when it comes time for Victory Saber.

Also, Galactus' estimated shipping date is fall 2022. I imagine that Victory Saber will be about the same time. There are 3 Haslabs (Razorcrest, Sentinel, and Heroquest) that are all supposed to ship before end of this year.
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115082)
Posted by Autobot N on September 5th, 2021 @ 12:56pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:While all Selects until now, and even Unicron had a plain brown packaging, we've seen a bit of upscale in the Galactic Odyssey series having more details on the inner package. I am curious to see what the Golden Disk series looks like as well as Black Zarak, the first Titan Selects. I'm hoping for a more detailed package, so we shall see when it comes time for Victory Saber.

Also, Galactus' estimated shipping date is fall 2022. I imagine that Victory Saber will be about the same time. There are 3 Haslabs (Razorcrest, Sentinel, and Heroquest) that are all supposed to ship before end of this year.
I think they said Star Saber ships in December 2022
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115083)
Posted by griftimus prime on September 5th, 2021 @ 1:19pm CDT
looks like the legs are on stilts i cant get passed it. they really blew it with that. thats why i wont get it. maybe a painted prototype could change my mind. but not likely
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115084)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 5th, 2021 @ 1:30pm CDT
griftimus prime wrote:looks like the legs are on stilts i cant get passed it. they really blew it with that. thats why i wont get it. maybe a painted prototype could change my mind. but not likely
They're boots.

Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115085)
Posted by bluecatcinema on September 5th, 2021 @ 1:55pm CDT
griftimus prime wrote:looks like the legs are on stilts i cant get passed it. they really blew it with that. thats why i wont get it. maybe a painted prototype could change my mind. but not likely


That's how the combination works. Have you not seen Victory Saber before?
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115086)
Posted by Emerje on September 5th, 2021 @ 1:55pm CDT
The feet looked a little silly in the original renders, but I don't think they look particularly bad on Victory Saber on the prototype. No better or worse than Legends God Ginrai.

I have no doubt they'll come in a brown box which is dumb as all the other HasLab stuff have been in full color boxes.

Emerje
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115088)
Posted by concrusher792 on September 5th, 2021 @ 2:00pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
griftimus prime wrote:looks like the legs are on stilts i cant get passed it. they really blew it with that. thats why i wont get it. maybe a painted prototype could change my mind. but not likely
They're boots.


Yup, it’s a common combination method for gattai robos. God Ginrai has a similar situation, as well many SS/PR Mecha/Zord combiners as well (Ninninger’s King Shurikenjin and Go-Buster’s Great Buster come to mind). Sometimes it works, sometimes it looks a kid walking with bucket stilts or even snow shoes on.
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115092)
Posted by First-Aid on September 5th, 2021 @ 2:26pm CDT
Emerje wrote:
First-Aid wrote:How big are these figures going to be? Any details? Those pics make it look fairly hefty.

1-inch Brain of Courage Brainmaster figure
5-inch Autobot Saber figure
8.5-inch V-Star jet
7.5-inch Victory Leo figure

If V-Star is 8.5 then Star Saber should be closer to 10" which seems about right when looking at Star Saber and Leo together. Combined they might be closer to 12".

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Those display shots make the posing look a lot more appealing, that's for sure. And I like the work around they came up with for Leo's visible hands in VS mode, simple but very effective.

Emerje


Thanks for the clarification, E-man. I am waffling on this, but if its a foot tall or close that may seal it. I feel you get better details with the larger figures and im a details lover.
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115100)
Posted by StaceyK93 on September 5th, 2021 @ 7:55pm CDT
First time backing a haslab project hope it meets all to goals
Always loved big combiner transformers
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115122)
Posted by BotsNotPlots on September 6th, 2021 @ 5:05am CDT
I feel like the US price ($180) for this is definitely worth backing, but the UK price (£180) makes it a tough choice. This makes it out to be about £50/$70 difference, and I'd very much like to know where the extra cash is going.
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115123)
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 6th, 2021 @ 5:16am CDT
BotsNotPlots wrote:I feel like the US price ($180) for this is definitely worth backing, but the UK price (£180) makes it a tough choice. This makes it out to be about £50/$70 difference, and I'd very much like to know where the extra cash is going.

We've seen this before were hasbro takes another currencies price and just swaps the currency sign. It is weird though ik sure there's a weird/logical business reason behind it...though it could also laziness to having to worry about fluctuating currency conversions :lol:
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115130)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 6th, 2021 @ 7:56am CDT
BotsNotPlots wrote:I feel like the US price ($180) for this is definitely worth backing, but the UK price (£180) makes it a tough choice. This makes it out to be about £50/$70 difference, and I'd very much like to know where the extra cash is going.


To be fair (or unfair) that's how ALL transformers are priced in UK and Europe.
You guys get overcharged for reasons.
The cheapest place in the world for Transformers is definitely the USA overall. Why, I have no idea. They all come from the same factories after all.
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115131)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on September 6th, 2021 @ 10:08am CDT
I saw someone try to explain it as it's because the US price doesn't include tax, but the UK one automatically includes it, plus import fees (I think was the reasoning). I think this reasoning sounds the best, assuming it's true. I'm from the US, and not Hasbro, so I can't say this is accurate, but someone did the math and it seemed to work out to only overcharging by about $40 which is still a lot, but better than $70

Another reason I saw was that it's also because of the nature of exchanging currency, it's a better idea for Hasbro to overcharge because if the pound were to suddenly take a massive hit and loose a lot of value between the charge date and when Victory Saber ships, then they wouldn't actively losing money on a bunch of copies for the UK. That last reason doesn't stand up to logic because then the same would apply to the dollar, but obviously it doesn't, plus they wouldn't lose money because they charge when it ends and therefore would order the materials needed after charging
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115132)
Posted by o.supreme on September 6th, 2021 @ 11:06am CDT
I think there are some countries covered by Takara or Hasbro in Asia that actually have the lowest prices overall. Possibly because they are physically closer to where the toys are actually manufactured? Robot Kingdom often charges less initially than most retailers. It's just that shipping is so expensive that usually prevents me from using them.
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115134)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 6th, 2021 @ 11:10am CDT
o.supreme wrote:I think there are some countries covered by Takara or Hasbro in Asia that actually have the lowest prices overall. Possibly because they are physically closer to where the toys are actually manufactured? Robot Kingdom often charges less initially than most retailers. It's just that shipping is so expensive that usually prevents me from using them.
In my experience, there have been times where RobotKingdom's lower price was low enough to offset the shipping cost, as the total cost altogether still ended up being cheaper than BBTS's price.
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115135)
Posted by o.supreme on September 6th, 2021 @ 11:55am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
o.supreme wrote:I think there are some countries covered by Takara or Hasbro in Asia that actually have the lowest prices overall. Possibly because they are physically closer to where the toys are actually manufactured? Robot Kingdom often charges less initially than most retailers. It's just that shipping is so expensive that usually prevents me from using them.
In my experience, there have been times where RobotKingdom's lower price was low enough to offset the shipping cost, as the total cost altogether still ended up being cheaper than BBTS's price.


Agreed. But in my experience, those are the exception, not the norm, which is why I said "usually" combined shipping is more expensive. Believe me, I always price compare between RK and most others. Shipping is usually the determining factor. It is nice though, for those that do want to pay a bit more and get their items before Pulse, and all other US retailers.
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115136)
Posted by william-james88 on September 6th, 2021 @ 1:00pm CDT
BotsNotPlots wrote:I feel like the US price ($180) for this is definitely worth backing, but the UK price (£180) makes it a tough choice. This makes it out to be about £50/$70 difference, and I'd very much like to know where the extra cash is going.


Extra cash goes to Hasbro's pockets, it's just the price for your country. Just like how oreo cookies cost half as much in Vietnam as they do in the UK. Price is based on GDP and median income (after considering cost and margins of course), basically what the company determined you can pay for stuff.

It's not 70$ extra though, it's less than that. Since the UK price includes taxes and the US price does not. Its more likearound 50$ extra. And you get to avoid any extra importing fees as well.
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115137)
Posted by King Kuuga on September 6th, 2021 @ 1:03pm CDT
I'm so glad we're already over the halfway mark in just a week. Obviously orders are slowing down now but we should be well on pace to finish. I went ahead and ordered a second one to hold onto and eventually resell. The in-person photos look good. I'll be following this project eagerly.
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115142)
Posted by First-Aid on September 6th, 2021 @ 1:29pm CDT
BotsNotPlots wrote:I feel like the US price ($180) for this is definitely worth backing, but the UK price (£180) makes it a tough choice. This makes it out to be about £50/$70 difference, and I'd very much like to know where the extra cash is going.


Depends on where you live. Cost of shipping to England is higher than it is to the US due to multiple factors including distance, time in transit (usually double), and passage through the Suez Canal and associated fees. Another strong possibility is the national sales tax in England (which alone would add £36 if not included in the cost). Those are the most likely ones.
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115163)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 6th, 2021 @ 5:00pm CDT
The fact that we are at halfway after a week is all but a guarantee he will make it, and probably obtain all of his extra tiers as well.

I am putting in a guess that the final number of backers will end up around 25,000 total.
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115182)
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on September 7th, 2021 @ 1:34am CDT
I am so glad i backed this. Fingers crossed for it hitting production!
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115204)
Posted by whacko on September 7th, 2021 @ 12:15pm CDT
I backed this thing, but I am thinking about backing out.

The more I see of this figure the more it does not look like $180 worth of toy. It is basically a Commander Class toy selling at an inflated Titan Class price. It even looks like it is recycling blast effects from past Commander Class toys.

$100-120 seems like a fairer price for what they're offering. $180 seem a little bit high. Especially since $180 is $20 more than MP-24 Starsaber sold for and this toy isn't going to have Masterpiece levels of plastic, paint and sculpt quality.
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115205)
Posted by sol magnus on September 7th, 2021 @ 12:17pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Moonshot wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Moonshot wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
william-james88 wrote:I read the IDW comics and loved them and the only time I remember black shadow is from the Megatron origin story and even then I am told that wasn't black shadow. Couldn't even say when he was in a badass scene as one of Megatron's top guys. So I really don't know him from there then at all. I just picked up the TR toy because it looked great. Still love him.

In MTMTE he was a Phase Sixer that beat up Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus at the same time. Killed hundreds of Autobots that day.


What issue? Optimus Prime is not even in MTMTE since MTMTE happens after "the death of Optimus Prime".
Sounds like Black Shadow was only a mentioned in flashback then, and never part of the main story.

Anyways, Hasbro said there would be more partner sites for Victory Sabre coming out this week. Have any of you seen them? I'd like to write an article linking to all the different campaigns so that anyone in the world can know where to get one, all in one article.

Also, while I do think we'll get that first Tier, that canon is definitely key to the toy. Would be a huge shame for it not to be made. I would have rather it just be included and not have tiers, but I guess tiers are part of the deal with crowd funded things.


DW Optimus Prime didnt actually die in "Death of Optimus Prime". He just started going by Orion Pax again and went into semi-exile. He was in MTMtE in flashbacks and current time.


When did I say he did?



It sure seemed to me u were eluding to that here(also bold above); "Optimus Prime is not even in MTMTE since MTMTE happens after "the death of Optimus Prime"."

However, I never said u did say he died. Just in case u or someone reading it took what u said the same as I did, I thought I would clear it up. What did u mean then if not Optimus had died and that was why he wasnt in MTMtE?


That he is recedes ro the background and no longer goes by Optimus, which is what happens in the story that I put in quotations.

So yeah, Dark Shadow's role in the Roberts comics was beyond minimal.


Black Shadow was killed by the Decepticon Justice Division in their put em over big issue. MTMTE #7 I think.

To be on topic, I'll be doing my Star Saber x2 this week.
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115208)
Posted by o.supreme on September 7th, 2021 @ 12:26pm CDT
My main banking card expires in November. I know I can still make the purchase, and reverify later. however, to avoid all of that, I'll probably just get my new bank card early in October, about a week before the window to back this project closes, and get my new card then, and use it t make the purchase. besides, I have a couple pre-orders that are due early in October, as long as they are not delayed, it should work out perfectly.
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115213)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on September 7th, 2021 @ 1:01pm CDT
whacko wrote:I backed this thing, but I am thinking about backing out.

The more I see of this figure the more it does not look like $180 worth of toy. It is basically a Commander Class toy selling at an inflated Titan Class price. It even looks like it is recycling blast effects from past Commander Class toys.

$100-120 seems like a fairer price for what they're offering. $180 seem a little bit high. Especially since $180 is $20 more than MP-24 Starsaber sold for and this toy isn't going to have Masterpiece levels of plastic, paint and sculpt quality.


I don't completely disagree, but I think you are overlooking 2 main points. First comparing the price to MP Starsaber's original price is just an unfair comparison no matter how you look at it. MP Starsaber was made 6 years ago before the MP line changed their pricing format and before the regular generations line did the same. If MP Starsaber was released within the last year, we would at least have a current comparable price (my guess would be around $200-$250 if released today). Generations deluxes could still be gotten for $10 on sale back in 2015 versus $10 for a core class now. Does that mean that core figures should be the size of deluxes because this is what their price point was 6 years ago?

Second is that there really isn't a great standard definition of what makes a Commander Class figure. So far, we just have Jetfire, Sky Lynx and Rodimus Prime to go by. Jetfire was the biggest and simplest, Rodimus was the smallest and by far the most complex, and Sky Lynx is somewhere in the middle. Comparing what we've seen so far, Victory Saber is definitely more materials and more complex than Rodimus Prime so the price going beyond the normal commander price point in into Titan range makes sense.

I have all 3 Commanders so far, and what they have shown for Victory Saber is definitely beyond what any of the 3 commander releases have covered.

Edit: tldr: If you are using prices from 6 years ago as your basis on whether something is worth it to you, the answer will almost always be no.
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115215)
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 7th, 2021 @ 1:34pm CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
whacko wrote:I backed this thing, but I am thinking about backing out.

The more I see of this figure the more it does not look like $180 worth of toy. It is basically a Commander Class toy selling at an inflated Titan Class price. It even looks like it is recycling blast effects from past Commander Class toys.

$100-120 seems like a fairer price for what they're offering. $180 seem a little bit high. Especially since $180 is $20 more than MP-24 Starsaber sold for and this toy isn't going to have Masterpiece levels of plastic, paint and sculpt quality.


I don't completely disagree, but I think you are overlooking 2 main points. First comparing the price to MP Starsaber's original price is just an unfair comparison no matter how you look at it. MP Starsaber was made 6 years ago before the MP line changed their pricing format and before the regular generations line did the same. If MP Starsaber was released within the last year, we would at least have a current comparable price (my guess would be around $200-$250 if released today). Generations deluxes could still be gotten for $10 on sale back in 2015 versus $10 for a core class now. Does that mean that core figures should be the size of deluxes because this is what their price point was 6 years ago?

Second is that there really isn't a great standard definition of what makes a Commander Class figure. So far, we just have Jetfire, Sky Lynx and Rodimus Prime to go by. Jetfire was the biggest and simplest, Rodimus was the smallest and by far the most complex, and Sky Lynx is somewhere in the middle. Comparing what we've seen so far, Victory Saber is definitely more materials and more complex than Rodimus Prime so the price going beyond the normal commander price point in into Titan range makes sense.

I have all 3 Commanders so far, and what they have shown for Victory Saber is definitely beyond what any of the 3 commander releases have covered.

Edit: tldr: If you are using prices from 6 years ago as your basis on whether something is worth it to you, the answer will almost always be no.

What he said.
Re: New Images of all Components from the Transformers Victory Saber Set (2115216)
Posted by william-james88 on September 7th, 2021 @ 1:35pm CDT
whacko wrote:I backed this thing, but I am thinking about backing out.

The more I see of this figure the more it does not look like $180 worth of toy. It is basically a Commander Class toy selling at an inflated Titan Class price. It even looks like it is recycling blast effects from past Commander Class toys.

$100-120 seems like a fairer price for what they're offering. $180 seem a little bit high. Especially since $180 is $20 more than MP-24 Starsaber sold for and this toy isn't going to have Masterpiece levels of plastic, paint and sculpt quality.


Due to the lack of economies of scale, this toy would never ever give you the same worth of $180 you would see at retail. Ever.

No different than 3p companies charging upwards of $40 for scout sized toys https://tfsource.com/ironfactory/IF-EX49-void-legion/

In both cases, you're paying that price because the sunk cost of making the master mold has less product for that cost to spread out upon.

If you want to ensure you get something worth $180 retail, then just stick to retail.

Of course, you would then miss out on toys like this that would never be found at retail, and that added rarity will definitely play into inflated secondary market prices. So not buying it now if you are slightly interested would backfire when your only chance of experiencing the toy is to spend $400 on e-bay.

Your best bet is to just back it now and if you don't like it when it's released, then just sell it then since there is guaranteed to be new collectors around then that simply were not around when this toy was being backed.

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