Official Images - Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-24 Star Saber

The more I see this figure, the more I want to get it. It's an awesome fig for the most kickass Autobot leader ever.

Engineering-wise, I'm impressed by how they managed to make the head turn with the Brainmaster feature AND a large head put over the small head while the large head is on an articulated arm.

with all yuki has shown us, youd think theres nothing left to see, or left to hype.

guess not!

Flashwave wrote:

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SkyWarpt wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Kinda feels more like a power ranger megazord than a transformer to me.

You mean, Super Sentai mech Not surprising, since Transformers took a more traditional Japanese turn after Headmasters, especially with Victory.

Didn't he exist before Power Rangers?

Super Sentai, the source material for Power Rangers, goes all the way back to 1975, or rather 1979 when the mechs were introduced.

i dunno, star saber has a large physical sword like most super sentai mecha, but his looks feel more like one of the transforming gundams, with the mouthplate, antenna and the bell-bottom legs. no to mention the use of red, blue and white with yellow accents.

I don't really see either right off, He's too clunky for what I think of as being a Gundam, there have been plenty of blocky Gundam mechs, but the quintessential Gundum robots to me are far more humanoid in appearence, lithe in the limbs, and armor fairly obviously being added onto a frame. I can sorta see hints and elements in the combined form's mask or Saber's wing shield, though. and when I think Megazord, I think something more along the lines of the Gestalts but again, blockier and more solid vehicle kibble. Bt then, my only experience with Megazords have been the train from the 90s (That I actually never owned myself) and the Solar Zord (?) train a decade later which as compartments in its arms and legs that are conviently minicon sized.

How's about we try this kind of comparison? Star Saber's design is to Gundam what Gridman's design was to Ultraman.

The influence is there, but it's just not the same.

Va'al wrote:For once, Hisashi Yuki is not the source of an extensive look at the lovely and soon to be released Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-24 Star Saber. Thanks to the Dengeki Hobby website, we get a full look at the various parts of the figure, from the Brain of Courage, to Saber to the V-Star and all the various combinations and accessories that come along with the bot. We have seen some of these shots in various formats before, but check them all out mirrored below in case you missed some!

Take away the attatchment to character (because I'm in no way attached to Star Saber) this may be the coolest MP in the line.

Now, just add a Victory Leo and this will be perfect.

For all the awesome that this and MP-10 are, they really are leaving a large hole in the line for decpticon leaders.

That is an awesome looking toy.

SkyWarpt wrote:Take away the attachment to character (because I'm in no way attached to Star Saber) this may be the coolest MP in the line.

yup. theyve seriously pulled out all the stops for this figure. chosen by the fans, and treated with the utmost care and attention.

Its a great figure, I love it, but I dont know why...

I am a completist, and I have all of the Takara MP's, including funky GOLD megatron, but I am not familiar with Star Saber, I dont have that special bond with it that comes directly from the cartoon and my childhood. Nevertheless, Its coming to be part of my collection, and I am sure it will be very special, but somehow, it just does not feel like an MP figure. It doesnt look like the transformation is very complex, it does not so much transform then just come together with other pieces to make a bigger robot to make a bigger robot. Maybe thats what feels weird to me... I am sure the feel and quality of it, as well as its cartoon and character accuracy makes it and qualifies it as an MP and so it is.

I kinda felt the same when the diecast content of the figures went out the window, prior to MP 10, I felt that a master piece figure ought to have a ton of diecast and weigh, well, a ton. But I got used to the change, and can see why that was necessary as well as having a good size scale, etc. Lets hope that this figure marks another great evolution for the masterpiece series.

.....wow.... that is all......

Think this is Takara's best work.

I can't stop gushing over this figure. By only poring over all the great images I imagine I'll be transforming this guy a lot.
The ONLY THING that could make him better is if TakaraTomy planned for Victory Leo.
If Victory Saber happened my heart might stop. (I just hope Victory Leo isn't exclusive as only a boxed set for Victory Saber with Star Saber.)

It may have been on a Twincast I heard someone suggest that the Japanese Transformers series should have been imported to the US/exported from Japan during the Gundam/Macross boom.
I can understand the lack of connection people have with Star Saber. If the fourth season of G1 wasn't such an absolute stinker, if my desire to keep G1 going wasn't so strong, and if I didn't enjoy anime as much as I did when it was important, I still might care about this MP because of how amazing it looks.
My Primax fanon ends after KISS Players, Trigger and The Battle of the Star Gate.

R.I.P. Generation One

Then there's Drift, Windblade, and properly decoed reissues.
Oh yeah, and Alpha Bravo and Rook and whoever.

Convoy wrote:I can't stop gushing over this figure. By only poring over all the great images I imagine I'll be transforming this guy a lot.
The ONLY THING that could make him better is if TakaraTomy planned for Victory Leo.
If Victory Saber happened my heart might stop. (I just hope Victory Leo isn't exclusive as only a boxed set for Victory Saber with Star Saber.)

Maybe a 3rd party will jump on Victory Leo

SkyWarpt wrote:

Convoy wrote:I can't stop gushing over this figure. By only poring over all the great images I imagine I'll be transforming this guy a lot.
The ONLY THING that could make him better is if TakaraTomy planned for Victory Leo.
If Victory Saber happened my heart might stop. (I just hope Victory Leo isn't exclusive as only a boxed set for Victory Saber with Star Saber.)

Maybe a 3rd party will jump on Victory Leo

Speculation but I believe Tomy will have to build one.

I may have asked this before but what's up with the short sword blade? I assume it's for Saber but did saber ever use the sword in the show? I also just noticed something, are there two nosecones? I see a size difference between the nosecone used as a hilt, and the one Saber has as a shield and in jet mode.

Does the combined figure have an Ab crunch?? It looks like it does.

That should be established as the next benchmark in Transformer articulation. I'm MORE than stoked that ankle tilts have become common place but the next step in evolution is the AB CRUNCH

The ladies love a good ab crunch....just sayin

I'm kinda sad. First Masterpiece I have no desire to get (that isn't a repaint). Makes my wallet happy I guess. Probally because I known thing of this character and have no attachment whatsoever.

I'd like to see the results of a Hasbro MP fan poll.

Convoy wrote:My Primax fanon ends after KISS Players, Trigger and The Battle of the Star Gate.

Meaning... it ends before season 3 begins?

fenrir72 wrote:

SkyWarpt wrote:

Convoy wrote:I can't stop gushing over this figure. By only poring over all the great images I imagine I'll be transforming this guy a lot.
The ONLY THING that could make him better is if TakaraTomy planned for Victory Leo.
If Victory Saber happened my heart might stop. (I just hope Victory Leo isn't exclusive as only a boxed set for Victory Saber with Star Saber.)

Maybe a 3rd party will jump on Victory Leo

Speculation but I believe Tomy will have to build one.

I fear that some 3rd party is already planning a Victory Leo to go with this, knowing that since Takara won't be doing a Victory Leo soon enough people will be all over the third party one and jump on it before Takara even gets theirs off the ground.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I may have asked this before but what's up with the short sword blade? I assume it's for Saber but did saber ever use the sword in the show? I also just noticed something, are there two nosecones? I see a size difference between the nosecone used as a hilt, and the one Saber has as a shield and in jet mode.

The smaller sword blade and smaller nosecone are indeed meant to be the blade and hilt for a smaller sword for Saber to wield, while the bigger blade and bigger nosecone are the blade and hilt for the Saber Blade wielded by Star Saber in his "Battle Up!" form.

Ironhidensh wrote:I'm kinda sad. First Masterpiece I have no desire to get (that isn't a repaint). Makes my wallet happy I guess. Probally because I known thing of this character and have no attachment whatsoever.

I'd like to see the results of a Hasbro MP fan poll.

Wouldn't happen since Masterpiece is Takara's baby. Hasbro doesn't make MPs. Only time they did was with the Masterpiece Offshoot Targetmaster that came with Hasbro's Rodimus, but that figure only vaguely resembled Firebolt at all, much less how he looked in the cartoon.

Sabrblade wrote:

Convoy wrote:My Primax fanon ends after KISS Players, Trigger and The Battle of the Star Gate.

Meaning... it ends before season 3 begins?

fenrir72 wrote:

SkyWarpt wrote:

Convoy wrote:I can't stop gushing over this figure. By only poring over all the great images I imagine I'll be transforming this guy a lot.
The ONLY THING that could make him better is if TakaraTomy planned for Victory Leo.
If Victory Saber happened my heart might stop. (I just hope Victory Leo isn't exclusive as only a boxed set for Victory Saber with Star Saber.)

Maybe a 3rd party will jump on Victory Leo

Speculation but I believe Tomy will have to build one.

I fear that some 3rd party is already planning a Victory Leo to go with this, knowing that since Takara won't be doing a Victory Leo soon enough people will be all over the third party one and jump on it before Takara even gets theirs off the ground.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I may have asked this before but what's up with the short sword blade? I assume it's for Saber but did saber ever use the sword in the show? I also just noticed something, are there two nosecones? I see a size difference between the nosecone used as a hilt, and the one Saber has as a shield and in jet mode.

The smaller sword blade and smaller nosecone are indeed meant to be the blade and hilt for a smaller sword for Saber to wield, while the bigger blade and bigger nosecone are the blade and hilt for the Saber Blade wielded by Star Saber in his "Battle Up!" form.

Ironhidensh wrote:I'm kinda sad. First Masterpiece I have no desire to get (that isn't a repaint). Makes my wallet happy I guess. Probally because I known thing of this character and have no attachment whatsoever.

I'd like to see the results of a Hasbro MP fan poll.

Wouldn't happen since Masterpiece is Takara's baby. Hasbro doesn't make MPs. Only time they did was with the Masterpiece Offshoot Targetmaster that came with Hasbro's Rodimus, but that figure only vaguely resembled Firebolt at all, much less how he looked in the cartoon.

Well, the fans better make sure to get Starsaber sold out else there's no incentive to make one (V Leo)for Tomy.

This btw is addressed to all fans out there.........support the 1st party first fellas. Sure a few years wait would kill us but in the end, an official upgrade is better over a 3rd.

fenrir72 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Convoy wrote:My Primax fanon ends after KISS Players, Trigger and The Battle of the Star Gate.

Meaning... it ends before season 3 begins?

fenrir72 wrote:

SkyWarpt wrote:

Convoy wrote:I can't stop gushing over this figure. By only poring over all the great images I imagine I'll be transforming this guy a lot.
The ONLY THING that could make him better is if TakaraTomy planned for Victory Leo.
If Victory Saber happened my heart might stop. (I just hope Victory Leo isn't exclusive as only a boxed set for Victory Saber with Star Saber.)

Maybe a 3rd party will jump on Victory Leo

Speculation but I believe Tomy will have to build one.

I fear that some 3rd party is already planning a Victory Leo to go with this, knowing that since Takara won't be doing a Victory Leo soon enough people will be all over the third party one and jump on it before Takara even gets theirs off the ground.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I may have asked this before but what's up with the short sword blade? I assume it's for Saber but did saber ever use the sword in the show? I also just noticed something, are there two nosecones? I see a size difference between the nosecone used as a hilt, and the one Saber has as a shield and in jet mode.

The smaller sword blade and smaller nosecone are indeed meant to be the blade and hilt for a smaller sword for Saber to wield, while the bigger blade and bigger nosecone are the blade and hilt for the Saber Blade wielded by Star Saber in his "Battle Up!" form.

Ironhidensh wrote:I'm kinda sad. First Masterpiece I have no desire to get (that isn't a repaint). Makes my wallet happy I guess. Probally because I known thing of this character and have no attachment whatsoever.

I'd like to see the results of a Hasbro MP fan poll.

Wouldn't happen since Masterpiece is Takara's baby. Hasbro doesn't make MPs. Only time they did was with the Masterpiece Offshoot Targetmaster that came with Hasbro's Rodimus, but that figure only vaguely resembled Firebolt at all, much less how he looked in the cartoon.

Well, the fans better make sure to get Starsaber sold out else there's no incentive to make one (V Leo)for Tomy.

This btw is addressed to all fans out there.........support the 1st party first fellas. Sure a few years wait would kill us but in the end, an official upgrade is better over a 3rd.

Supply and demand. Demand is for the 3rd party product. Hasbro/Takara have made clear they are not interested in producing figures of that detail level. Why should the consumer not support they 3rd party that is actually givng them what they want?

Once again, we have another hefty batch of in-hand images of the soon released Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-24 Star Saber, and not from Hisashi Yuki! Courtesy of ACToys user fengqiaoken, we get a nice look at size comparisons, multiple robot elements, perspective shots and more. Check them out mirrored below.

Meh. Still does nothing for me. I understand that this figure is catered to a different market, but I can't help but feel it is a complete waste of a spot in the masterpiece line.

I so need this!

yeah I see your point, but I wish we had a cool IDW Star Saber. I'd go for a religio-facist to add to my collection.

No. A real waste of an MP slot is the many repaints and remold I see from Hasbro and Takara now making up most of the Masterpiece line.

I would much rather get a new mold entirely than another repaint or slight retool.

Optimizzy wrote:yeah I see your point, but I wish we had a cool IDW Star Saber. I'd go for a religio-facist to add to my collection.

If you want IDW Star Saber so bad just pay twice as much for the Australian release.

Just when my wallet was getting heavier again... Darn you, Takara!

Lets play i spy with my little eye...
...I spy with my little PORTS FOR A POSSIBLE FUTURE MP VICTORY LEO MOLD

Ironhidensh wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Convoy wrote:My Primax fanon ends after KISS Players, Trigger and The Battle of the Star Gate.

Meaning... it ends before season 3 begins?

fenrir72 wrote:

SkyWarpt wrote:

Convoy wrote:I can't stop gushing over this figure. By only poring over all the great images I imagine I'll be transforming this guy a lot.
The ONLY THING that could make him better is if TakaraTomy planned for Victory Leo.
If Victory Saber happened my heart might stop. (I just hope Victory Leo isn't exclusive as only a boxed set for Victory Saber with Star Saber.)

Maybe a 3rd party will jump on Victory Leo

Speculation but I believe Tomy will have to build one.

I fear that some 3rd party is already planning a Victory Leo to go with this, knowing that since Takara won't be doing a Victory Leo soon enough people will be all over the third party one and jump on it before Takara even gets theirs off the ground.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I may have asked this before but what's up with the short sword blade? I assume it's for Saber but did saber ever use the sword in the show? I also just noticed something, are there two nosecones? I see a size difference between the nosecone used as a hilt, and the one Saber has as a shield and in jet mode.

The smaller sword blade and smaller nosecone are indeed meant to be the blade and hilt for a smaller sword for Saber to wield, while the bigger blade and bigger nosecone are the blade and hilt for the Saber Blade wielded by Star Saber in his "Battle Up!" form.

Ironhidensh wrote:I'm kinda sad. First Masterpiece I have no desire to get (that isn't a repaint). Makes my wallet happy I guess. Probally because I known thing of this character and have no attachment whatsoever.

I'd like to see the results of a Hasbro MP fan poll.

Wouldn't happen since Masterpiece is Takara's baby. Hasbro doesn't make MPs. Only time they did was with the Masterpiece Offshoot Targetmaster that came with Hasbro's Rodimus, but that figure only vaguely resembled Firebolt at all, much less how he looked in the cartoon.

Well, the fans better make sure to get Starsaber sold out else there's no incentive to make one (V Leo)for Tomy.

This btw is addressed to all fans out there.........support the 1st party first fellas. Sure a few years wait would kill us but in the end, an official upgrade is better over a 3rd.

Supply and demand. Demand is for the 3rd party product. Hasbro/Takara have made clear they are not interested in producing figures of that detail level. Why should the consumer not support they 3rd party that is actually givng them what they want?

This is for the Starsaber mold to ensure that there is an incentive for Tomy to make one. In the end, it's still the bottom line.........profit for the company which in turn makes us FANS happy. I thought you would have noticed my point in the last sentence.

And again, like in another thread in the United Warrior line, Tomy don't care what the gaijin market says hence they ditched AB. Star Saber in your opinion would be a waste of MP slot but he was born out of the "demand" of Japanese fans who actually buy stuff no matter how absurdly expensive.

There's the demand and Tomy answered with the "supply". Also, in this regard, this is a big risk for Tomy but the poll results would more or less offset the concerns of the investors.

Xephon0930 wrote:No. A real waste of an MP slot is the many repaints and remold I see from Hasbro and Takara now making up most of the Masterpiece line.

I would much rather get a new mold entirely than another repaint or slight retool.

The repaints fund the ability to get new molds, and most of the repaints (barring some of the Op stuff) have been taken directly from the original fiction, so I'm 100% OK with them.

I feel this is a must have for just about every Transformers collector. It's just such an iconic looking design. It begs to be on my shelf!

Starsaber468 wrote:Lets play i spy with my little eye...
...I spy with my little PORTS FOR A POSSIBLE FUTURE MP VICTORY LEO MOLD

When the article came out the other day with Hisashi Yuki, he did say that he couldn't proceed with Victory Leo until TT said so, but he never said anything about not being able to make Star Saber compatible for that down the road....
I'm so psyched for this- I've already sold my G1 version to make room, and I'm counting the days. Now if I just knew what the fate of Exhaust will be, and if my existing preorder will be cancelled or not... March is going to be a nail biter.

Ironhidensh wrote:Meh. Still does nothing for me. I understand that this figure is catered to a different market, but I can't help but feel it is a complete waste of a spot in the masterpiece line.

I agree differnt with other people but I be more wooried how to handle him with antnne looking fragile and flimsy as they are on his head cat walk knock him off shelf they may break off upon impact plastic or metal makes differnce comapred to mp megatron who breaks he falls,.

If I had space buy formers he be pass for I know nothing of him never saw series had watch review with starsaber released takara should release victory leo to combine with

When this character won the "next MP release" contest, were the fans given a list of obscure characters to choose from ? Or did they really pick this character ? I cant see this character beating out Galvatron, Megatron, Shockwave, Arcee, Springer, or any of the other Dinobots...

Rated X wrote:When this character won the "next MP release" contest, were the fans given a list of obscure characters to choose from ? Or did they really pick this character ? I cant see this character beating out Galvatron, Megatron, Shockwave, Arcee, Springer, or any of the other Dinobots...

If I remember correctly, it was a listing of Autobot leaders from Fortress Maximus to present, excluding original Optimus Prime and Rodimus Prime, as they've been done, and he's hardly obscure, as he's insanely popular in Japan. And he's awesome.

Rated X wrote:When this character won the "next MP release" contest, were the fans given a list of obscure characters to choose from ? Or did they really pick this character ? I cant see this character beating out Galvatron, Megatron, Shockwave, Arcee, Springer, or any of the other Dinobots...

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/takara-tomy-30th-anniversary-masterpiece-fans-choice-poll-update-current-leaders-star-saber-micron-densetsu-convoy-and-dai-atlas/27971/

You're welcome.

Meh....easy pass for me. I was on the fence but now i'm sure i don't need or want it.

Rated X wrote:When this character won the "next MP release" contest, were the fans given a list of obscure characters to choose from ? Or did they really pick this character ? I cant see this character beating out Galvatron, Megatron, Shockwave, Arcee, Springer, or any of the other Dinobots...

Not the hanging "chads" again

Contrary to your singular belief that the world revolves around you, there are others who think otherwise. Especially the Japanese as seen in how they aced off A-B in theier Unite Warriors line.

Even the anime Headmasters onwards to Return of Convoy, the Japanese did it their way.

I cant really tell much from the oriental coke bottle, but i do see a set of keys to scale him on...one of our amazing brianiacs can jump in at any moment now...

Also, I would like to note, I will not be following up any negativity regarding this figure as the fans voted and company responded. Standing ovation!

Starsaber468 wrote:Lets play i spy with my little eye...
...I spy with my little PORTS FOR A POSSIBLE FUTURE MP VICTORY LEO MOLD

I didn't even know who Victory Leo was but I'm on board.

SkyWarpt wrote:

Starsaber468 wrote:Lets play i spy with my little eye...
...I spy with my little PORTS FOR A POSSIBLE FUTURE MP VICTORY LEO MOLD

I didn't even know who Victory Leo was but I'm on board.

Star Saber's Magic Mushroom. See also: Armada Overload, but Leo becomes leg armor (Okay, lets be honest, be turns into shoes) and a wing pack.

Can I ask a dumb question? Why is this still getting newsed? Haven't we documented every screw hole and bit of flash already? Not that I'm not excited for SS, but the only "In Hand" I want to see now is MINE.

Flashwave wrote:

SkyWarpt wrote:

Starsaber468 wrote:Lets play i spy with my little eye...
...I spy with my little PORTS FOR A POSSIBLE FUTURE MP VICTORY LEO MOLD

I didn't even know who Victory Leo was but I'm on board.

Star Saber's Magic Mushroom. See also: Armada Overload, but Leo becomes leg armor (Okay, lets be honest, be turns into shoes) and a wing pack.

Can I ask a dumb question? Why is this still getting newsed? Haven't we documented every screw hole and bit of flash already? Not that I'm not excited for SS, but the only "In Hand" I want to see now is MINE.

Because it is an event, like Windblade should have been...and the event should be appreciated.

I almost wish they went with more painted surfaces, but I understand the reasoning and it's looking good. And accurate. Really excited for this one, it's a cool-looking figure with some really fun gimmicks, and I never got to play with G1 Star Saber. My preorder with Nippon-Yasan is already paid, I can't wait!

fenrir72 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Convoy wrote:My Primax fanon ends after KISS Players, Trigger and The Battle of the Star Gate.

Meaning... it ends before season 3 begins?

fenrir72 wrote:

SkyWarpt wrote:

Convoy wrote:I can't stop gushing over this figure. By only poring over all the great images I imagine I'll be transforming this guy a lot.
The ONLY THING that could make him better is if TakaraTomy planned for Victory Leo.
If Victory Saber happened my heart might stop. (I just hope Victory Leo isn't exclusive as only a boxed set for Victory Saber with Star Saber.)

Maybe a 3rd party will jump on Victory Leo

Speculation but I believe Tomy will have to build one.

I fear that some 3rd party is already planning a Victory Leo to go with this, knowing that since Takara won't be doing a Victory Leo soon enough people will be all over the third party one and jump on it before Takara even gets theirs off the ground.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I may have asked this before but what's up with the short sword blade? I assume it's for Saber but did saber ever use the sword in the show? I also just noticed something, are there two nosecones? I see a size difference between the nosecone used as a hilt, and the one Saber has as a shield and in jet mode.

The smaller sword blade and smaller nosecone are indeed meant to be the blade and hilt for a smaller sword for Saber to wield, while the bigger blade and bigger nosecone are the blade and hilt for the Saber Blade wielded by Star Saber in his "Battle Up!" form.

Ironhidensh wrote:I'm kinda sad. First Masterpiece I have no desire to get (that isn't a repaint). Makes my wallet happy I guess. Probally because I known thing of this character and have no attachment whatsoever.

I'd like to see the results of a Hasbro MP fan poll.

Wouldn't happen since Masterpiece is Takara's baby. Hasbro doesn't make MPs. Only time they did was with the Masterpiece Offshoot Targetmaster that came with Hasbro's Rodimus, but that figure only vaguely resembled Firebolt at all, much less how he looked in the cartoon.

Well, the fans better make sure to get Starsaber sold out else there's no incentive to make one (V Leo)for Tomy.

This btw is addressed to all fans out there.........support the 1st party first fellas. Sure a few years wait would kill us but in the end, an official upgrade is better over a 3rd.

Supply and demand. Demand is for the 3rd party product. Hasbro/Takara have made clear they are not interested in producing figures of that detail level. Why should the consumer not support they 3rd party that is actually givng them what they want?

This is for the Starsaber mold to ensure that there is an incentive for Tomy to make one. In the end, it's still the bottom line.........profit for the company which in turn makes us FANS happy. I thought you would have noticed my point in the last sentence.

And again, like in another thread in the United Warrior line, Tomy don't care what the gaijin market says hence they ditched AB. Star Saber in your opinion would be a waste of MP slot but he was born out of the "demand" of Japanese fans who actually buy stuff no matter how absurdly expensive.

There's the demand and Tomy answered with the "supply". Also, in this regard, this is a big risk for Tomy but the poll results would more or less offset the concerns of the investors.

I was speaking on the third party business in general, not just this figure. They are putting out figures that Hasbro/Takara have no intention of, so why wait?

As for this figure, I've stated several times that I understand Starsaber is big in Japan. I get that. My complaint is that Hasbro won't put the same time and effort into the masterpiece line. We won't get a fan poll in America. It's a problem in all big American corporations. Focusing only on what will sell the most to the most and cost the least to make, ignoring everything else and never taking a chance.

Ironhidensh wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Convoy wrote:My Primax fanon ends after KISS Players, Trigger and The Battle of the Star Gate.

Meaning... it ends before season 3 begins?

fenrir72 wrote:

SkyWarpt wrote:

Convoy wrote:I can't stop gushing over this figure. By only poring over all the great images I imagine I'll be transforming this guy a lot.
The ONLY THING that could make him better is if TakaraTomy planned for Victory Leo.
If Victory Saber happened my heart might stop. (I just hope Victory Leo isn't exclusive as only a boxed set for Victory Saber with Star Saber.)

Maybe a 3rd party will jump on Victory Leo

Speculation but I believe Tomy will have to build one.

I fear that some 3rd party is already planning a Victory Leo to go with this, knowing that since Takara won't be doing a Victory Leo soon enough people will be all over the third party one and jump on it before Takara even gets theirs off the ground.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I may have asked this before but what's up with the short sword blade? I assume it's for Saber but did saber ever use the sword in the show? I also just noticed something, are there two nosecones? I see a size difference between the nosecone used as a hilt, and the one Saber has as a shield and in jet mode.

The smaller sword blade and smaller nosecone are indeed meant to be the blade and hilt for a smaller sword for Saber to wield, while the bigger blade and bigger nosecone are the blade and hilt for the Saber Blade wielded by Star Saber in his "Battle Up!" form.

Ironhidensh wrote:I'm kinda sad. First Masterpiece I have no desire to get (that isn't a repaint). Makes my wallet happy I guess. Probally because I known thing of this character and have no attachment whatsoever.

I'd like to see the results of a Hasbro MP fan poll.

Wouldn't happen since Masterpiece is Takara's baby. Hasbro doesn't make MPs. Only time they did was with the Masterpiece Offshoot Targetmaster that came with Hasbro's Rodimus, but that figure only vaguely resembled Firebolt at all, much less how he looked in the cartoon.

Well, the fans better make sure to get Starsaber sold out else there's no incentive to make one (V Leo)for Tomy.

This btw is addressed to all fans out there.........support the 1st party first fellas. Sure a few years wait would kill us but in the end, an official upgrade is better over a 3rd.

Supply and demand. Demand is for the 3rd party product. Hasbro/Takara have made clear they are not interested in producing figures of that detail level. Why should the consumer not support they 3rd party that is actually givng them what they want?

This is for the Starsaber mold to ensure that there is an incentive for Tomy to make one. In the end, it's still the bottom line.........profit for the company which in turn makes us FANS happy. I thought you would have noticed my point in the last sentence.

And again, like in another thread in the United Warrior line, Tomy don't care what the gaijin market says hence they ditched AB. Star Saber in your opinion would be a waste of MP slot but he was born out of the "demand" of Japanese fans who actually buy stuff no matter how absurdly expensive.

There's the demand and Tomy answered with the "supply". Also, in this regard, this is a big risk for Tomy but the poll results would more or less offset the concerns of the investors.

I was speaking on the third party business in general, not just this figure. They are putting out figures that Hasbro/Takara have no intention of, so why wait?

As for this figure, I've stated several times that I understand Starsaber is big in Japan. I get that. My complaint is that Hasbro won't put the same time and effort into the masterpiece line. We won't get a fan poll in America. It's a problem in all big American corporations. Focusing only on what will sell the most to the most and cost the least to make, ignoring everything else and never taking a chance.

And I was talking about Star Saber. Since this is about SS. No argument there. As for the industry in general, give the first party incentive then the products will come. If they release sh#tty products like MP Rodimus Convoy/Hotrodimus, by all means reject 'em.

I am not against 3rd party products but that discussion should be in another thread.

fenrir72 wrote:

Rated X wrote:When this character won the "next MP release" contest, were the fans given a list of obscure characters to choose from ? Or did they really pick this character ? I cant see this character beating out Galvatron, Megatron, Shockwave, Arcee, Springer, or any of the other Dinobots...

Not the hanging "chads" again

Contrary to your singular belief that the world revolves around you, there are others who think otherwise. Especially the Japanese as seen in how they aced off A-B in theier Unite Warriors line.

Even the anime Headmasters onwards to Return of Convoy, the Japanese did it their way.

So because I ask a question, the world revolves around me ? Dude wipe your mouth cause youre talking s**t.

Im sorry to never have ventured into the world of subtitles and voice actors that all sound the same. That list of characters might be a list of gods in Japan, but where Im from its obscure, pointblank. And yeah Takara axed Alpha Bravo, I said that. Im not sure how thats relevant to my question, but yeah it does show they got a lot of G1 love out there in Japan. Which makes me wonder if the Japanese fans would have prefered one of the characters I named rather than some character that came out when G1 was coming to an end.

Here's a pro-tip: (learn to) use the search function, if not on Google, at least in the News section of this site. We covered the fan poll from beginning to end.

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ils/28763/

The obscurity of characters is relative to the reception of the series with different audiences. I ask you AGAIN to stop insulting other users when you're being called out on limited, restrained mindsets.

I ask everyone to avoid insulting each other, as stated by the rules, the admins, the mods and basic tenets of civil discussion. If you cannot do that, we will start handing out warnings.

Rated X wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Rated X wrote:When this character won the "next MP release" contest, were the fans given a list of obscure characters to choose from ? Or did they really pick this character ? I cant see this character beating out Galvatron, Megatron, Shockwave, Arcee, Springer, or any of the other Dinobots...

Not the hanging "chads" again

Contrary to your singular belief that the world revolves around you, there are others who think otherwise. Especially the Japanese as seen in how they aced off A-B in theier Unite Warriors line.

Even the anime Headmasters onwards to Return of Convoy, the Japanese did it their way.

So because I ask a question, the world revolves around me ? Dude wipe your mouth cause youre talking s**t.

Im sorry to never have ventured into the world of subtitles and voice actors that all sound the same. That list of characters might be a list of gods in Japan, but where Im from its obscure, pointblank. And yeah Takara axed Alpha Bravo, I said that. Im not sure how thats relevant to my question, but yeah it does show they got a lot of G1 love out there in Japan. Which makes me wonder if the Japanese fans would have prefered one of the characters I named rather than some character that came out when G1 was coming to an end.

You are missing the point that G1 carried on for quite a few more seasons in Japan. Over there, Starsaber and those other characters listed are as G1 as Prime, Ironhide, and Jazz are here.

Va'al wrote:Here's a pro-tip: (learn to) use the search function, if not on Google, at least in the News section of this site. We covered the fan poll from beginning to end.

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ils/28763/

The obscurity of characters is relative to the reception of the series with different audiences. I ask you AGAIN to stop insulting other users when you're being called out on limited, restrained mindsets.

I ask everyone to avoid insulting each other, as stated by the rules, the admins, the mods and basic tenets of civil discussion. If you cannot do that, we will start handing out warnings.

When Fenrir72 said this:

"Contrary to your singular belief that the world revolves around you, there are others who think otherwise."

That's about as blatant an insult as it can get. Wheres is his reminder not to insult people ?