Pictorial Review of Studio Series Sentinel Prime + Singaporean Sighting of him and Scrapper
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Here's my review for Sentinel in the event anyone's interested!
Ooh boy. This one's going to be a tough review! To preface it, I'm going to come clean and say that I'm absolutely in love with the DOTM Leader Class figure from way, way back. It's one of the last few great Transformers toys with a transformation scheme that rivals the now-legendary ROTF Leader Prime. The way the windshield just collapses into his chest? That's a slice of fried gold right there.
That's not to say that it didn't have its fair share of issues. As biased as I am, I'm not delusional. For one, it suffered from a rather severe backpack thanks to the batteries that were required for his electronic lights and sounds, there were a ton more panels hanging off his back than just his cape, and his non-faux chest is way too large.
All these years later, we finally have a new Sentinel figure in the SS line. Can the SS figure topple the Leader and take its place as the definitive Sentinel figure? Let's find out.
Since we're here, let's start off with robot mode. The SS figure does indeed address and fix a number of the problems with the Leader Class figure. Without a battery box, the backpack is drastically reduced. However, the other fixes do come with their own compromises. Firstly, the chest. Yes, it is far, far more accurate and proportional, but you lose the amazing bit of transformation engineering and all of that kibble gets relegated to his butt. Credit where credit is due, it's worthy to note that they at least placed the real windows behind the faux ones ala the Beast Wars MPs and their animal heads. Secondly, they were able to minimize the number of superfluous panels by turning a couple of them into his swords. Rather ingenious idea, but the swords end up really wonky looking from one side and they cannot be stored in robot mode.
All in all, however, bot mode is great. Proportion-wise, it's spot on. (Boxy chest from some angles aside) he looks far more accurate than any Sentinel Prime figure before him with the only real, obvious kibble being the butt windshield the ladders on the side of the legs. The amount of molded detail is also insane. While paint would have gone a long, long way in bringing out all of that detail, it's also rather unfortunate that he's mainly cast in a all black plastic. It's not as dark as what most pictures will have you believe, the black plastic does mask a ton of that detail. It's also really unfortunate that while the Studio Series line excels in terms of molded detail, it lacks in terms of transformation detail. In my opinion, there are way too few transformation steps that are purely for the sake of maintaining accuracy. One obvious example would be the two wheels on the insides of Sentinel's legs instead of just the one.
In terms of articulation, there are problems. His head articulation is horrendous with minimal ability to look even left and right. The ankles don't move side to side either. The waist joint can indeed rotate somewhat, but it can come undone way too easily. At least the transformation joint at the waist can be used as a means to achieve a crazy waist twist. The only other thing that gets in the way of the posing is the fact that his chest is angled downwards due to the transformation. What this means is that if you want him to stand straight with his chest held high, he'll be constantly looking upwards at an awkward angle.
Still, the figure is articulated enough to pretty much pull of almost any pose you want him in.
The last major complaint relating to his poses is that, yes, his shield is missing. One of the most iconic aspects of his character... gone. Urgh. Perhaps they wanted to reduce the cost or perhaps they weren't able to find a way for him to store it in vehicle mode, like how the Leader could. Regardless, this severely limits his posing potential.
Speaking of vehicle mode, the transformation process to it borrows heavily from the Leader but is streamlined to make it more simple but yet almost just as satisfying. The only really annoying part is the fact that the back of the vehicle mode takes a ton of effort to stay pegged together. I'm not sure if it's because the pegs lack friction or that the tolerances aren't as precise as they should have been, but it takes a ton of massaging on my copy to get those back panels to stay together.
As for the vehicle mode itself, it's a boxy firetruck. The only nitpick that I have is the fact that, compared to the Leader figure, it appears to be way too long and thin. I'm not 100% sure which figure is more accurate, but the Leader figure's vehicle mode does seem to be better proportioned.
IN CONCLUSION!
If you're a fan of Sentinel Prime and want a version of him to scale with your other SS figures and are okay with all the (admittedly relatively minor) issues I noted, there's really no reason not to pick this guy up. There're no deal-breaking QC or design flaws and they genuinely did a really decent job of representing the character in the SS line even with all the constraints that come with it. Of course, that might be due to his inherently shellformerish design, but he fairs far better than some of the Deluxes with their entire roofs hanging off their back.
Coming back to the question that I posed at the beginning of the review. Is he a replacement for the DOTM Leader figure?
...not by a long shot! (^o^)
No review (yet), but some images of Scrapper as well!
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Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on March 30th, 2020 @ 12:08am CDT
Oh, he has paint. He has plenty of paint.YRQRM0 wrote:Ugh, so many releases in studio series that come close to greatness but just fall short. For me, that's this guy because of the lack of shield and maybe a gun. That would have made him worth picking up. And also like a lot of SS, lack of paint is not doing this (great) mold justice.
Almost all of which goes to giving him red, because aside from the glazing he's cast entirely in black plastic.
IMO all existing copies of him should be recalled and destroyed, and HasTak can give it another go when they actually feel like trying when it comes to his plastic colors.
Even casting him in all red would have been better, because he's supposed to be primarily red with gray and black accents.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on March 30th, 2020 @ 8:00am CDT
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Oh, he has paint. He has plenty of paint.
Almost all of which goes to giving him red, because aside from the glazing he's cast entirely in black plastic.
Are you sure? Like, better than Hotlink sure?
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 30th, 2020 @ 10:33am CDT
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on March 30th, 2020 @ 12:59pm CDT
Yes. Hotlink, I couldn't judge as well because of what I was having to go off photo-wise. Sentinel on the other hand, I have seen clear, hi-res shots: the stock photos, and now the review as well. Every single red patch on him, obviously has black (or clear, in the case of his chest) plastic beneath it; you can tell from both the sheen of the red and how much black shows through Just look at this:TF-fan kev777 wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Oh, he has paint. He has plenty of paint.
Almost all of which goes to giving him red, because aside from the glazing he's cast entirely in black plastic.
Are you sure? Like, better than Hotlink sure?
The only things that might be an exception are his feet.
Posted by Actar on March 30th, 2020 @ 7:49pm CDT
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:The only things that might be an exception are his feet.
The feet are molded in black plastic and painted entirely red. Mine has a couple of chips in them. (^.^')
Posted by Ig89ninja on March 30th, 2020 @ 9:23pm CDT
Actar wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:The only things that might be an exception are his feet.
The feet are molded in black plastic and painted entirely red. Mine has a couple of chips in them. (^.^')
Wow, did Hasbro just have an excess of black plastic?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 30th, 2020 @ 11:10pm CDT
Ig89ninja wrote:Actar wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:The only things that might be an exception are his feet.
The feet are molded in black plastic and painted entirely red. Mine has a couple of chips in them. (^.^')
Wow, did Hasbro just have an excess of black plastic?
More like a conflict between plastic colors, or which parts are cast in which color, and paint budget. If only one part changes color, others will have to follow suit, and that may cause issues in what parts have to be painted over.
Posted by blackeyedprime on March 31st, 2020 @ 7:26am CDT
Sentinels really noticably lacking paint in vehicle mode but robot mode looks really good but once again some hasbro employee making a fortune in their third party company to provide bits the figure should have.
Posted by Ig89ninja on March 31st, 2020 @ 8:45am CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:Scrapper looks nice. Overload is a bit of a mess in vehicle mode with his half painted windows and the half black/red on top, worse still his mixmaster piece doesn't seem to be integrated well with devy in tontons video kind of wondering if devy can have mixmaster truck cab as a head for a midtransformation/ gobot look.
I wouldn’t worry too much about Devastator right now, since TonTon tends to buy the prototype from some mysterious Hasbro employee that usually does not reflect the final product, as well as him having to spitball where everything goes during transformation since he doesn’t have instructions yet.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 31st, 2020 @ 4:42pm CDT
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Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 31st, 2020 @ 4:50pm CDT
Also, I'm curious. With the release of Studio Series, and these figures being generally superior to the previous movieverse releases (RoTF leader Prime being the exception), do you guys display SS by themselves in your collection, or do they get integrated with the other movie figures?
Posted by Sabrblade on March 31st, 2020 @ 4:54pm CDT
That was Demolishor who died early. He's white. Scavenger's red.Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah it's tempting because he's also a part of 1 of my favorite sequences from the movie. Is Scavenger also part of Devastator? He did die early in the movie. Is there a clone of him?
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on March 31st, 2020 @ 5:00pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:That was Demolishor who died early. He's white. Scavenger's red.Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah it's tempting because he's also a part of 1 of my favorite sequences from the movie. Is Scavenger also part of Devastator? He did die early in the movie. Is there a clone of him?
Which means we are almost certain to get a Demolisher repaint out of Scavenger somewhere in the future.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 31st, 2020 @ 5:00pm CDT
Ah okay. I just know they look the same.Sabrblade wrote:That was Demolishor who died early. He's white. Scavenger's red.Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah it's tempting because he's also a part of 1 of my favorite sequences from the movie. Is Scavenger also part of Devastator? He did die early in the movie. Is there a clone of him?
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on March 31st, 2020 @ 5:18pm CDT
Yes. You can clearly see his altmode amongst the construction vehicles driving up in the quarry for the combination, and he's where a lot of the mass comes from.Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah it's tempting because he's also a part of 1 of my favorite sequences from the movie. Is Scavenger also part of Devastator?
Rodimus Prime wrote:He did die early in the movie.
It was Demolishor who died early in the movie. Demolishor's excavator mode is white in the movie (hence the premium "Shanghai Demolishor" set), although he still has a red noggin.
The ROTF Constructicons appear to be "mass-produced body type" characters, with some types (Long Haul, Mixmaster, Scrapper, and Rampage) having at least two present in the final battle - some as part of Devastator, others acting as individual footsoldiers.
I've mostly skipped SS since I prefer the old scale. I've only bought one Studio Series figure, Blackout, since he was bigger and better than the 2007 mold. The only other figures I have are Rampage (Christmas gift from my aunt) and SS05 Optimus (quirk of Hasbro's replacement system).Rodimus Prime wrote:Also, I'm curious. With the release of Studio Series, and these figures being generally superior to the previous movieverse releases (RoTF leader Prime being the exception), do you guys display SS by themselves in your collection, or do they get integrated with the other movie figures?
Also, IMO ROTF Leader Optimus isn't the only exception.
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on March 31st, 2020 @ 5:35pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Also, I'm curious. With the release of Studio Series, and these figures being generally superior to the previous movieverse releases (RoTF leader Prime being the exception), do you guys display SS by themselves in your collection, or do they get integrated with the other movie figures?
I keep them separate for the most part primarily due to scaling, the exceptions being TLK Berserker which has been repainted into Crankcase and Evac from Transformers the Ride because I really like the character. DOTM Topspin works pretty well too but I keep mine in vehicle mode since I lost its head.
Talking about SS compared to previous figures, the only case I can think of where I think the original figure was better is possibly the upcoming Topspin. We’ll have to see though! I also haven’t owned any previous Sentinels except for the Cyberverse one (or the SS one yet), so I cant comment on that.
Talking about ROTF Leader Prime, I feel like a more fair comparison between SS Prime and a previous figure would be battle blades prime. While battle blades prime does have the better vehicle mode, I think I’d give every other category to SS Prime. Robot mode accuracy, transformation, fun, poseability, stability, all of that.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on March 31st, 2020 @ 5:55pm CDT
IMO Battle Blades Optimus takes the robot mode accuracy prize due to his transformation scheme putting the wheels in the right place in both modes. And, compared to SS05, his back and chest.EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Talking about ROTF Leader Prime, I feel like a more fair comparison between SS Prime and a previous figure would be battle blades prime. While battle blades prime does have the better vehicle mode, I think I’d give every other category to SS Prime. Robot mode accuracy, transformation, fun, poseability, stability, all of that.
Posted by SGMLordMirage on March 31st, 2020 @ 7:40pm CDT
SGM
UPDATE
I just wanted to add one photo for comparison between Shockwave and Roadbuster.
In regards to Offroad Bumblebee, I love his Jeep mode, but I’m partial to military like vehicles.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 31st, 2020 @ 11:34pm CDT
Devastator and the Constructicons: There has not been a bad constructicon toy yet. The 2 deluxes are very fun for their size. Rampage is a wonderful jackhammer of evil. Long Haul is probably the weakest, but is by no means a bad toy at all. Mixmaster is incredibly fun, and while some think he doesn't look as good as his original self, everyone agrees they can actually transform him this time and enjoy him. Scavenger is a great leader, and is probably the best figure of the Leader class to come out in a few years, he is that good, solid, and well painted. Overload and Scrapper will complete him.
You can get a few constructicons to have by themselves, you can buy all 8 and form Devy (or 9 with Skipjack and have him and Rampage swap), and you can buy all of them to display separately. They work in any of the modes you put them in and in any number that you desire. Though you might have a hard time with the first 4 to come out back tracking.
As for the other question, I am not a scale nazi, so my SS figures are meshed with the rest of my movie collection (which is currently coming back out of boxes as we speak). I find that DotM on really works well with the SS scale wise though.
Posted by M. Spector on April 1st, 2020 @ 6:46pm CDT
Also it seems that I now officially own every single movie 1 Decpticon in some form
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 1st, 2020 @ 11:09pm CDT
M. Spector wrote:There seems to be an abundance of the last Voyager wave here in the North, tons and tons of Movie 1 Megs and good ol Mixmaster. I decided to relieve them of a Megatron and by God is he great. I was really nervous the lower legs being so chunky would ruin it for me but in person, doesn't hinder the toy at all. In fact he poses really quite well, thanks to the heel being on a hinge for transformation its possible to keep both his feet firmly on the ground in most poses!
Also it seems that I now officially own every single movie 1 Decpticon in some form
That movie 1 Megatron toy is really good, it is a shining example of a new toy overcoming the limitations of the first. I love it!
Posted by JoeIsNotCool on April 2nd, 2020 @ 6:27am CDT
So this confirms that TonTon probably gets these figures...illegally? As his had unpainted windows, so it was clearly pre-production. Or there are variations on the figure, which I hope there aren't.
I don't get how these guys are getting him though, he isn't due out till somewhere between August-October I thought?
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on April 2nd, 2020 @ 10:00am CDT
LeAwesome1 wrote:So PrimeVSPrime released a video review of Overload, and his copy has painted windows for the truck mode...
So this confirms that TonTon probably gets these figures...illegally? As his had unpainted windows, so it was clearly pre-production. Or there are variations on the figure, which I hope there aren't.
I don't get how these guys are getting him though, he isn't due out till somewhere between August-October I thought?
I mean, while I don't doubt the illegality of his figures, it could also have been a mistake at the painting pat of production like some ER Optimus Primes not getting the silver paint in the Matrix chamber
Posted by JoeIsNotCool on April 2nd, 2020 @ 10:04am CDT
Sentinel_Primal wrote:LeAwesome1 wrote:So PrimeVSPrime released a video review of Overload, and his copy has painted windows for the truck mode...
So this confirms that TonTon probably gets these figures...illegally? As his had unpainted windows, so it was clearly pre-production. Or there are variations on the figure, which I hope there aren't.
I don't get how these guys are getting him though, he isn't due out till somewhere between August-October I thought?
I mean, while I don't doubt the illegality of his figures, it could also have been a mistake at the painting pat of production like some ER Optimus Primes not getting the silver paint in the Matrix chamber
I doubt it, if you look closely at TonTon's copy, half the roof of the cab section is also unpainted, whereas the other half is painted. I doubt they would mess the painting up THAT badly!
Posted by LinaNui on April 2nd, 2020 @ 2:25pm CDT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymk3xyZT9zI&t=1s
I can not wait to get the last 2 in!
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Tuned Agent wrote:That Roadbuster would be mine, if I could venture out into the wild.
Same boat man, except I’m looking for Shatter.
Posted by Ultra Markus on April 4th, 2020 @ 2:21am CDT
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on April 4th, 2020 @ 2:27am CDT
Ultra Markus wrote:wouldnt it be cool if all the studio series constructicons got released in G1 colors
No, because then I'd have to spend another $260 getting them all because I wouldn't be able to resist
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on April 4th, 2020 @ 3:53am CDT
Nah. Would eat a lot of slots and would probably look dodgy on a lot of 'em too.Ultra Markus wrote:wouldnt it be cool if all the studio series constructicons got released in G1 colors
Posted by Emerje on April 4th, 2020 @ 5:27am CDT
Ultra Markus wrote:wouldnt it be cool if all the studio series constructicons got released in G1 colors
Don't really want it, but I do feel like by the time they exhaust all of the color variants (and maybe make a few new ones) for each Constructicon we could probably build a second Devastator. We're getting Skipjack at the end of the year, I wonder if we could end up with another year of repaints restarting where the first run started from (if we get a fourth year of SS)?
Emerje
Posted by First-Aid on April 4th, 2020 @ 2:20pm CDT
Ultra Markus wrote:wouldnt it be cool if all the studio series constructicons got released in G1 colors
WE already got that (tiny version) and it was butt ugly. These are different than G1, they need to be allowed to be themselves.
FYI, picked up the Roadbuster (I'm allowed out since I'm an RN) and it is heads and tails better than the original version. It's not even close. Can't wait for the other two Wreckers if that's the quality we are getting...
Posted by First-Aid on April 4th, 2020 @ 4:34pm CDT
https://hasbropulse.com/collections/stu ... on-topspin
Posted by Nemesis Primal on April 4th, 2020 @ 6:32pm CDT
First-Aid wrote:Ummmmm...did anyone else notice on Hasbro Pulse that there is a pre-order up for Wrecker member Topspin?? Or did I miss that news? If it's new, how bout some credit here?!?!
https://hasbropulse.com/collections/stu ... on-topspin
All of the Toy Fair reveals for Earthrise and Studio Series have had preorders since they were revealed, so not new.
Posted by First-Aid on April 4th, 2020 @ 7:00pm CDT
Nemesis Primal wrote:First-Aid wrote:Ummmmm...did anyone else notice on Hasbro Pulse that there is a pre-order up for Wrecker member Topspin?? Or did I miss that news? If it's new, how bout some credit here?!?!
https://hasbropulse.com/collections/stu ... on-topspin
All of the Toy Fair reveals for Earthrise and Studio Series have had preorders since they were revealed, so not new.
Ah. I guess I missed it. Or i saw it and it was lost in my layers of studies on pharmacology...lol
Posted by Emerje on April 5th, 2020 @ 10:27pm CDT
Also wasn't expecting all the soft parts. And I don't mean flimsy soft plastic like some swords are made of, I'm talking soft like a wet paper bag. I don't think we've ever seen plastic like this used before. It's used to make his hose, left hand, that "thumb" on his canon, the canon barrel, his foot spikes, and his entire left arm gun among a few other parts. It's not all bad, it does have a memory to it so it can take a fair amount of bending without warping or showing stress marks. It does warp if left over time like some noticeable slight warping straight out of the box, but you can crumple up his gun in your hand and it'll just spring right back. Not sure why they had to use it on the gun, it isn't exactly sharp. I do like the use in other spots because it gave us some nice pointy parts. Hopefully it doesn't disintegrate over time.
Emerje
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on April 5th, 2020 @ 10:53pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 5th, 2020 @ 11:49pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on April 6th, 2020 @ 6:52am CDT
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:His gun probably shared a sprue with some of the pointy bits.
No doubt, I just wonder why they felt they had to put it on that sprue since it isn't particularly pointy.
Rodimus Prime wrote:I have yet to open mine. I swore to myself it's the last SS figure I'll get until Galvatron comes out, and I've been waiting for a leader Shockwave since 2011 so I'm savoring that first contact. My only worry so far is that his cannon seems way too big and it might make him lean to that side. How are his shoulder and elbow joints? Can the ratchet support the extra weight from the cannon?
In his case it really isn't so much a gravity problem, but his joints have to fight a bit with the pressure of the hose. It's not a huge hindrance or anything, you just have to be mindful of it. For the most part his joints can hold the canon level just fine. On mine the shoulder is a little loose, but the elbow is tight, which is fine because I don't think it would look natural holding such a big canon out straight from the shoulder.
Emerje