Possible Major Spoiler Regarding a Returning Character for Transformers 4

Well, he was dead and came back before so why not again and again and again?

Michael Bay sure has a turn on for reviving the dead, that's for sure.

Because it's worked once, so why not again? It's not like the action-and-boobs addicted people who will make up most of the non-TF fan audience will care.

Sure, it might be a bit fun, but I can't believe that anyone who is a TF fan and cares about the story will be able to appreciate another Megatron return instead of something original and interesting.

I'll bet we'll even get a Force Ghost of The Fallen that will guide Megatron, and Optimus will die of shame because his paint job gets scratched up, and Sam and his next busty girlfriend will need to go and find a wierd faux-Lovecraftian-looking Cybertronian Mcguffin along with some foul-mouthed Autobots, and then use the Mcguffin to give Optimus a new paint job and resurrect him so that Hasbro can sell more Optimus Prime toys. Then Optimus will rip Megatron's face off and throw it INTO THE SUN, but SPACE ROBOT MAGIC will let the head survive until the next film so that he can be resurrected again, just like how the depths of the ocean was supposed to crush Megatron's body to uselessness in the first film's ending.

*End idiotic, hate-laced anti-movie rant*

Alright, that was full of assumption and the film probably won't be that bad, but boy was baseless ranting fun.

Flakmaster wrote:Because it's worked once, so why not again? It's not like the action-and-boobs addicted people who will make up most of the non-TF fan audience will care.

Sure, it might be a bit fun, but I can't believe that anyone who is a TF fan and cares about the story will be able to appreciate another Megatron return instead of something original and interesting.

I'll bet we'll even get a Force Ghost of The Fallen that will guide Megatron, and Optimus will die of shame because his paint job gets scratched up, and Sam and his next busty girlfriend will need to go and find a wierd faux-Lovecraftian-looking Cybertronian Mcguffin along with some foul-mouthed Autobots, and then use the Mcguffin to give Optimus a new paint job and resurrect him so that Hasbro can sell more Optimus Prime toys. Then Optimus will rip Megatron's face off and throw it INTO THE SUN, but SPACE ROBOT MAGIC will let the head survive until the next film so that he can be resurrected again, just like how the depths of the ocean was supposed to crush Megatron's body to uselessness in the first film's ending.

*End idiotic, hate-laced anti-movie rant*

Alright, that was full of assumption and the film probably won't be that bad, but boy was baseless ranting fun.

Indeed, that was pretty darn funny : )

Perhaps its wreckage recoveredby Kelsey grammer's organization. Perhaps the organizationis studying it? Idk just a theory

hopefully he becomes galvatron. there's just no way a transformer could come back from having their brain module sheared in half by an energon axe and subsequently decapitated with extreme prejudice. cuz if they could bring megatron back from this state using tech, jazz's injuries would seem like a skinned knee. and he's super dead.

So could Jetfire come back? He ripped his spark out but could it not simply be put back in a new/repaired body? Arghh, inconsistencies!!!!

Totally needs Mark Hamill to voice him this time. Or Troy Baker, if Mark couldn't do it anymore.

Lol. Love the Joker reference!

...looks diffrent than hes head on dotm... has an emo stare thing going

Michael Bay's new theme song:

"You see I'm wise enough to know when a plot needs thinning, and I've got just the one
Something that's been done and over done

G1 Movie
Megatron's head in a box

Marvel Comics
Megatron's head in a box

IDW
Megatron's head in box

Dark of the Moon
Megatron's head in box

Every single movie, Megatron's head in box, yeah yeah yeah yeeeaaaaah

Hopefully it's human villain could study it but have him back from dead not good idea I know he had axe in his but didn't it get cut off I can't watch it my bluray play doesn't play 3d crap movies

devlingrey wrote:Michael Bay's new theme song:

"You see I'm wise enough to know when a plot needs thinning, and I've got just the one
Something that's been done and over done

G1 Movie
Megatron's head in a box

Marvel Comics
Megatron's head in a box

IDW
Megatron's head in box

Dark of the Moon
Megatron's head in box

Every single movie, Megatron's head in box, yeah yeah yeah yeeeaaaaah

Okay, so this was funnier in my head. Fail on my part.

It's not like this doesn't happen in all of the other transformers mediums. I for one hope he gets reformatted into Galveston.

The appearance of a severed head =/= guaranteed resurrection.

If Galvatron comes into play then Unicron should as well. But Bay hasn't been very faithfulto the G1 history. Ie. The Ark being sentinel's ship and not optimus's.

And I know that looks wrong and I definitely know the Ark was Optimus's ship.

jeprime1983 wrote:If Galvatron comes into play then Unicron should as well. But Bay hasn't been very faithfulto the G1 history. Ie. The Ark being sentinel's ship and not optimus's.

Why should it be faithful to G1 history? The movies are not G1, and no TF cartoons from 2002 to today have been "faithful to G1 history" either. Why should the movies be when none of the cartoons have been?

jeprime1983 wrote:And I know that looks wrong and I definitely know the Ark was Optimus's ship.

There were two Arks in the movie fiction.

Optimus's:


And Sentinel's:

I am well aware that the movies aren't faithful to G1. Which is why many people do not care for Bay's approach to the franchise. And I believei stated that in my post. But u are correct. Why try to jump on the G1 train now right?

jeprime1983 wrote:Which is why many people do not care for Bay's approach to the franchise.

Yet, lots of other non-Movie fiction don't abide by G1 either, and several of those fictions are still liked.

Why does everything have to be a rehash of g1?

Headmaster Megatron?

Well I apologize if I offended anyone with my opinion. But I still have the right to speak my opinion however foolish some of u may think it to be. Now with that said I agree withwhat you are saying. Many fictions are well liked that aren't G1. I was just stating Baynever held true to G1. No more no less.

You gotta be F-ing kidding me!!!

Megatron can't return, he's dead!! his head was aliced in two and ripped off his G-damn body!!!


Jazz only got ripped in two and he never came back from it! Megs got his chest melted by the all spark, then his head sliced in two and ripped from his body...

so if they bring back Megatron, they might as well bring back Que, Soundwave, the fallen, sideways and demolishor for consistencies' sake!

I am the only one who thinks DOTM should have been the LAST! movie ???

I am very skeptical with this 4th entry and quite frankly, I don't set my expectations to high

after all, its michael bay we're talking about...

ive said it once & ill say it again, looks like just more of the same. Heres an idea bay if you want a character for the next movie dont kill them off. And if bots can come back so easy then why was jazz never revived? Why do i have the feeling this movie is going to have zombies, time travel & zombies how more unoriginal can you get? It would explain the dinobots, they go back in time to get some prehistoric bots to fight the modern day zombie menace. Throw in a vampire and we have it all. Hopefully megatron is just in a flash back but i doubt it cause bay cant form an original idea to save his life. Only other acceptable reason for megs to be around is to be turned into galvatron

Ok I don't mind Megatron returning but seriously. How many times are we gonna keep killing him off? If Megs is gonna stay dead then let him stay dead. Or if he is coming back at least revive as another character like oh I don't know, Galvatron?

Deathscythetransform wrote:Megatron can't return, he's dead!! his head was aliced in two and ripped off his G-damn body!!!

Why is anyone surprised. He's Megatron. He always returns. Unless of course a series ends with his death.

Deathscythetransform wrote:I am the only one who thinks DOTM should have been the LAST! movie ???

I am very skeptical with this 4th entry and quite frankly, I don't set my expectations to high

after all, its michael bay we're talking about...

Of course not. I very much enjoy the first three yet I'm quite skeptical of how this fourth one will turn out. When Bay said he would not do a fourth and then did, like many I was aggravated. I think the majority would have preferred an entirely new, Bay free movie. But at least we have potentially good new characters to add to the existing movie toy line.

Sabrblade wrote:

The appearance of a severed head =/= guaranteed resurrection.

I agree. Maybe this head of Megatron is used for a scene where the humans and Autobots get rid of Meg's body.
Déjavù. We've seen that before too.

This news made my day! Awesome!

You all act as if Megatron's return will be something very minor in the movie (like in Revenge of the Fallen). He will just come back from the dead, Right? But, Hasrbo made Megatron's Return a Trademark. Who Knows? Maybe Megatron's return would be a HUGE plot piece, maybe the whole first half of the movie is about returning megatron to life and the autobots trying to stop whoever is trying to get megatron back to life?

Rex Prime wrote:You all act as if Megatron's return will be something very minor in the movie (like in Revenge of the Fallen). He will just come back from the dead, Right? But, Hasrbo made Megatron's Return a Trademark. Who Knows? Maybe Megatron's return would be a HUGE plot piece, maybe the whole first half of the movie is about returning megatron to life and the autobots trying to stop whoever is trying to get megatron back to life?

Well, I'm sorry, I like Megatron but having coming back just to kill him off agin is really getting old and pointless. A new Decepticon leader would be nice. Or if he's back, just make him Galvatron if the rumors are true. It just dosent surprise me.

if cyclonus is in this movie, then i'd put money on galvatron being in it too. and if that's the case, i hope unicron show's up as well. i just hope that if he does show up, he's not some weird cloud thing like galactus was in f4 pt 2 or parallax was in green lantern.

Sabrblade wrote:

The appearance of a severed head =/= guaranteed resurrection.

That was my first thought, but the whole "Megatron Returns" trademark bit is what makes that unlikely. I actually wouldn't mind if humans used Megatron's memories and such to make a Transformer, who takes command of the 'Cons. (And maybe not even name him Galvatron!)
I know that wouldn't be popular, but let's face it: Bay will never make a G1 rehash, and if he can't do that, let's go with something completely new!

Jack Hallows wrote:if cyclonus is in this movie, then i'd put money on galvatron being in it too.

Unless it's more like this Cyclonus:

Autobot Megatron wrote:That was my first thought, but the whole "Megatron Returns" trademark bit is what makes that unlikely.

That Trademark (and the other two) was filed under:

Interactive entertainment software, namely, computer game software, computer game programs, computer game cartridges, computer game discs; interactive multimedia computer game programs; downloadable game software for use in connection with computers, communication devices and mobile telephones; pre-recorded laser and video disc featuring an animated cartoon series

Toy action figures, toy vehicles and toy robots convertible into other visual toy forms

And

Entertainment services, namely an on-going animated television series for children

They're missing a mention of something like "film", "motion picture", "movie", etc. like what "Age of Extinction" had.

ILL-Star wrote:

Deathscythetransform wrote:Megatron can't return, he's dead!! his head was aliced in two and ripped off his G-damn body!!!

Why is anyone surprised. He's Megatron. He always returns. Unless of course a series ends with his death.

Deathscythetransform wrote:I am the only one who thinks DOTM should have been the LAST! movie ???

I am very skeptical with this 4th entry and quite frankly, I don't set my expectations to high

after all, its michael bay we're talking about...

Of course not. I very much enjoy the first three yet I'm quite skeptical of how this fourth one will turn out. When Bay said he would not do a fourth and then did, like many I was aggravated. I think the majority would have preferred an entirely new, Bay free movie. But at least we have potentially good new characters to add to the existing movie toy line.

I've been practically screaming it for MONTHS now that they should have stopped with 3 films. Now, just when I'm finally starting to warm up to the 4th film and thinking "Hey, maybe this isn't going to suck after all" and in fact I was actually really getting into the whole idea, they go and pull one of the top 5 stupidest moves that will guarantee that this movie will turn into the steaming pile of dog sh** that so many people already think it's going to be! I don't think I've ever had my opinion make such a hard and fast 180 degree turn on anything TF related EVER but this... FU**!! Why not just throw Unicron into the mix (don't even get me started on THAT subject) and resurrect the Twins while they're at it?? Hell, bring back Megan Fox and the little leg-humper too just for sh**s and giggles. Did I cover all of the acts of blatant stupidity or are we still missing some?

And if you can't figure out WHY any of the aforementioned points are blatantly stupid, please don't bother asking me. I'm pissed off and I refuse to lower myself to that level. It should be so obvious a 3rd grader could explain it to you.

You guys are getting riled up over nothing. It's his head in a box, that doesn't mean he's coming back. There could just be a scene where they're disposing his body or something like that.

Okay, so explain something to me then, when they did the other films, were the other robots not done with foam heads on sticks and an off-scale prop for Bumblebee? This head looks too detailed to me to be CGI'D over, so that right away says "prop", unless someone remembers seeing a full 3D Megatron head used for filming. Doesn't rule out what they do with said prop, but remember that Frenzy was stuffed and mounted in Simmons' freezer, why not Megs.

(Or is that what Sabrblade's link is supposed to be?)

All I was saying is that, just because we see a severed head of an existing character doesn't mean that said character will be guaranteed a resurrection. In Frenzy's case, we saw his head in ROTF, but he still stayed dead in that movie. The appearance of Megatron's head does not automatically mean he's coming back to life.

Sabrblade wrote:

Jack Hallows wrote:if cyclonus is in this movie, then i'd put money on galvatron being in it too.

Unless it's more like this Cyclonus:

Somebody just copy/paste a robo-dick onto that forward-jutting crotch, replace his face with that of a robotic insect, and then we'll have a fairly accurate depiction of how Bay would portray him.

Flakmaster wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Jack Hallows wrote:if cyclonus is in this movie, then i'd put money on galvatron being in it too.

Unless it's more like this Cyclonus:

Somebody just copy/paste a robo-dick onto that forward-jutting crotch, replace his face with that of a robotic insect, and then we'll have a fairly accurate depiction of how Bay would portray him.

Actually, you're not to far off from this:

Rex Prime wrote:You all act as if Megatron's return will be something very minor in the movie (like in Revenge of the Fallen). He will just come back from the dead, Right? But, Hasrbo made Megatron's Return a Trademark. Who Knows? Maybe Megatron's return would be a HUGE plot piece, maybe the whole first half of the movie is about returning megatron to life and the autobots trying to stop whoever is trying to get megatron back to life?

and after that,in the 2nd half, they will try killing him?

The whole return of megatron thing is a real bad move. It may be just a prop, as it was said, but knowing we are talking about michael bay, it might be just another resurection in the process. We can't trust whatever he says cos he said megs wouldnt come back in rotf, yet he came back...

dotm's ending was supposed to bring a closing to the trilogy...

if megs can come back from being beheaded, then Sentinel could come back too while you're at it...

and bring back also starscream as Thundercracker, Dirge or Skywarp?

nah

I will definitively go see the movie out of curiosity, but I won't have any expectations. like that, I won't be pissed or dissapointed

Hmm.. Or maybe there simpley using a Megatron head instead of whatever charcter to keep it under wraps. Or its just there to pisss everyone off.

5150 Cruiser wrote:Hmm.. Or maybe there simpley using a Megatron head instead of whatever charcter to keep it under wraps. Or its just there to pisss everyone off.

Could be misdirection too.

i dunno. the way i see it, megatron can't not be in the movie in some form or other. he was one of humanity's biggest constant threats. the humans would want to know exactly what's become of him. for good or evil intentions.

Jack Hallows wrote:i dunno. the way i see it, megatron can't not be in the movie in some form or other. he was one of humanity's biggest constant threats. the humans would want to know exactly what's become of him. for good or evil intentions.

Just think of all of the war memorabilia we have in museums.

Maybe Kelsey Grammer's character is attempting to rebuild Megatron? Just a thought.