Potential New Trailers for Transformers: The Last Knight at CinemaCon 2017

Lol at people reacting to Grimlock's dumbness like it's actually something they made up for the movie that ruins his character.

Thought those people wanted Bay to take notes from the cartoon ha!

I just saw a con (presumably the Mohawk guy who turns into a motorcycle) on the light pole in the Decepticon scene.


Hard to find but when you see it you see it.

Prowl4 wrote:Yikes I already hate this new human addition to the Transformers movies.

Agreed. If you have to repeatedly tell people you are tough, it means you aren't. Also that whole running up to Megatron and yelling that she's not afraid thing means she's an idiot.
I feel like half this movie is going to be her doing stupid stuff and getting away with it cause others protect her dumb butt, until the end when she does something stupid that actually works. Then everyone will say that she was right and they were wrong.

LE0KING wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:Yikes I already hate this new human addition to the Transformers movies.

Agreed. If you have to repeatedly tell people you are tough, it means you aren't. Also that whole running up to Megatron and yelling that she's not afraid thing means she's an idiot.
I feel like half this movie is going to be her doing stupid stuff and getting away with it cause others protect her dumb butt, until the end when she does something stupid that actually works. Then everyone will say that she was right and they were wrong.

So a couple of scenes in a trailed obviously means we know the story now is that it?

Even if that was the case I would think they would end with her doing something smart after all the mistakes she made previously that's usually the more common route for that kind of character.

Deadput wrote:

LE0KING wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:Yikes I already hate this new human addition to the Transformers movies.

Agreed. If you have to repeatedly tell people you are tough, it means you aren't. Also that whole running up to Megatron and yelling that she's not afraid thing means she's an idiot.
I feel like half this movie is going to be her doing stupid stuff and getting away with it cause others protect her dumb butt, until the end when she does something stupid that actually works. Then everyone will say that she was right and they were wrong.

So a couple of scenes in a trailed obviously means we know the story now is that it?

Even if that was the case I would think they would end with her doing something smart after all the mistakes she made previously that's usually the more common route for that kind of character.

Yes it does. Hence the words "know beyond a doubt" in my comment instead of a more colloquial term like "guess" or "feel"

And if it wasn't a bay film then maybe she'd do something smart, but we seldom have smart people, or robots, in this series.

LE0KING wrote:Yes it does. Hence the words "know beyond a doubt" in my comment instead of a more colloquial term like "guess" or "feel"

And if it wasn't a bay film then maybe she'd do something smart, but we seldom have smart people, or robots, in this series.

Exactly like humans in real life I mean we are on a website dedicate to a kids toy brand from a franchise that generally has bad writing and there is a reason fan is short for fanatic.

All humans are morons most of their lives doesn't mean they can't have smart moments sometimes.

No but seriously you expect something super clever and original from a franchise about quippy characterless robots. (Yes believe it or not most of the Transformers regardless of media don't even have a deep personality)

Well if Mini-Slug turns into a pistol she might be able to kick some butt with the Mini-dinos - but I have a feeling Cade is carrying a weapon they combine into - but that is just my pet theory at the mo.

I'll be interested to know what they are - the Avatar or the Dinobots or their children.

Also where is Scorn and why doesn't he have his own - mini-me I'm a trifle worried for his safety now.


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Megatron has a sense of Humour if a girl tried to intimidate him (so long as she's unarmed he'd probably just laugh in her face) - unless he's still irked about being defeated by Sam so he's a bit kid-shy.

Oh and speaking of kids - I think she looks reasonably fine (she can act at least) - i'm not so sure about her 'gang' though - hopefully they will walk off frame and vanish like happens in bay Movies quite a lot. If she has good on screen rapport with Walberg then they might make a nice little story arc.

If i'm honest though - If I have any interest in this Movie it's to see what the Dinobots get up too and what is on Megatron's mind, what happens to Crazy Optimus, and I'd like to see the Dragon - other than that I'm easy.

P.s. I won't hope that Barricade is used well - as I have no confidence that Bay even know's he has a following or has a care to build him up at all... Bay is quite likely to just bump him off again... where as if they were smart they'd leave him alive as a thorn in Bumblebee's side and if they were really smart they'd establish him as a equal to him and so Bee can't ever actually beat him on his own - that would be interesting to give bee a Moriarty so to speak.

I wouldn't bet on it mind - as I don't think Bay thinks like that if he did he wouldn't have frivolously murdered the main cast in most of the Movies.

There is a reason their not showing clearly Barricade in the trailers despite him having almost as much marketing as Bumblebee and being on set almost as much as him.

I'll leave that to you people to figure it out.

Arsnof wrote:Okay, so if this guy is named 'Canopy', all that rubble on him is a defining feature, not a temporary disguize. This makes a large portion of his body actually concrete and stone instead of metal. What are the chances this is a sly reference to Rock Lords?

Zero.

Unless Jim Sorenson ghost-wrote the entire script.

I must admit, this video has my interest piqued that the movie might be decent. God knows we need a good TF movie after the last 3 disasters (I will say I enjoyed the first).

The cringe is strong with this one.....
Anyway, 0:35 of this trailer, the bit where all of the Decepticons are together in one spot, that's probably the first time I've been able to understand the (very, very, very) common criticism of the Bay movies that the robots aren't visibly distinct enough, this is the first time in any of the movies where I've thought "Hmm, everyone looks exactly the same and no one stands out from the crowd". I mean, the one to the right of Megatron kind of looks like Long Haul mixed with Brawl....but that's as far as it goes.

Sorry if this was already mentioned, but did anyone notice in the clip of Isabella running toward the structure, the celestial bodies in the sky?

Munkky wrote: I mean, the one to the right of Megatron kind of looks like Long Haul mixed with Brawl....but that's as far as it goes.

Thats onslaught by the way.

He shot her in the same way Mikela was shot in ROTF I notice.

I think the problem with Bay Movies is over saturation and weird colour timing it makes most things look kinda over flared and a bit de-saturated at the same time ( case in point the DOTM high way chase). I also think they do it to hide that the CGI models are now seem much less complex than they were in 2007.

Even Bumblebee often looks mucky Orange rather than golden yellow due to how the colour timing is set. it also make Optimus look more dark blue and Crimson and anyone using darker colours or silver or anything that isn't something like Bright red can just blend in.

That was why the Human built bots in the last Movie were likely often Red - so they'd stand out from the Autobots.

I bet if you asked some people what colour some characters were after just seeing the Movie they might not even be able to answer you correctly.

LE0KING wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:Yikes I already hate this new human addition to the Transformers movies.

Agreed. If you have to repeatedly tell people you are tough, it means you aren't. Also that whole running up to Megatron and yelling that she's not afraid thing means she's an idiot.
I feel like half this movie is going to be her doing stupid stuff and getting away with it cause others protect her dumb butt, until the end when she does something stupid that actually works. Then everyone will say that she was right and they were wrong.

I'm pretty sure most if not all of her voice over is specifically for the trailer; so it's more of an upper-management wants everyone to know they're super equal rights (which isn't bad in itself, but when overly flaunted, comes off like the 'compliments' in Get Out) and this movie is starring a Tough Girl.

The bit with her running towards Megatron and the other Decepticons doesn't ring to me as stupidity, but her getting them in position for Cade's trap.

concrusher792 wrote:

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partholon wrote:getting more and more worried grimlock will be protrayed as a moron.

You mean like he is in almost every continuity but the Marvel and IDW comics series and the Shattered Glass universe?

Let's not forget transformers animated and transformers tried series cartoons

Transformers: Tried. We made an attempt. It's not that good, but here you go anyway.

You mean Car Robots?

I think they meant RiD as in the current series. I'd still say he is a moron in both Animated and RiD, I was saying the Marvel and IDW comics made him a bit more cunning, while the SG universe one is outright a genius. The BW: Uprising Grimlock also has a decent amount of intellect.

While he is simple and kinda dim in RID 2015, I've made a lengthy argument explaining how Grimlock is not a completely idiot in that show. Also see the very next post made in response to mine for another good point about that Grimlock.

Deadput wrote:Lol at people reacting to Grimlock's dumbness like it's actually something they made up for the movie that ruins his character.

Thought those people wanted Bay to take notes from the cartoon ha!

People were hoping for a more bad-A Grimlock (which many blindly believe G1 Grimlock was like in G1 seasons 1-2) instead of a more bozo Grimlock (which was more emphasized in the 1986 movie and season 3). After all, these movies present themselves so much as trying to be as bad-A as possible (much like how an insecure teenager tries to act cool and jerkish among his peers) that anything remotely considered goofy gets called out as being dumb or childish.

The fan(antics) have such a misremembered exaggerated memory of their dumb children's cartoons and comics.

The G1 stuff should stay and die in the 80s the age of hippies and junkies like the trash it is.

Trying to find one place to find positivity made me remember how the Transformers and other brands I like get ruined by all the people and their politics and toxic behaviour.

Besides watching the new movies and finishing my titans returns collection I'm done I'm disgusted and depressed by all this.

Deadput wrote:Besides watching the new movies and finishing my titans returns collection I'm done I'm disgusted and depressed by all this.

Wow, really? Thats too bad. I quite like the community we have here, including you of course. I think we are a nice bunch.

I think in the end, the combiner wars cartoon thought us that we the audience wont know what we want unless it is presented to us. The best part of that show was Megatron who was unlike any version we saw before and yet pefectly worked for the character we all have in our heads.

william-james88 wrote:

Deadput wrote:Besides watching the new movies and finishing my titans returns collection I'm done I'm disgusted and depressed by all this.

Wow, really? Thats too bad. I quite like the community we have here, including you of course. I think we are a nice bunch.

I think in the end, the combiner wars cartoon thought us that we the audience wont know what we want unless it is presented to us. The best part of that show was Megatron who was unlike any version we saw before and yet pefectly worked for the character we all have in our heads.

The community here on Seibertron is great and I do love it here especially the parts where we have good discussions on things like what's happening in the future or guessing the origins of a figure's design, don't let my words tell you guys otherwise I'm angry at people like the ones on Facebook and Youtube I don't get how those kind of people can even exist and live with themselves it's people like them that has completely sapped and destroyed my interest in the things I used to love.

I just have to for once actually get away from Transformers for awhile it's not doing me good mentally and it's not just Transformers either it's many things I like such as Star Wars, many video games I used to play like Halo among a few other things.

When it comes to media and entertainment I literally have nothing left I enjoy and that's not an exaggeration I feel miserable and depressed in the last year or two more then I ever have been previously in my life (and I thought physical abuse and being tormented for being mentally disabled was the worse that could happen to me) being raised in a christian family and being very sheltered and spoiled as a kid has not prepared me for the state of the world but it did make me mature and grow up a bit not by much though as you could guess from outbursts like these.

I'm on sites like these to get away from this stuff in the first place not to feel worse about myself, I might comment on Titan Returns and movie news every once in awhile but for now I'm going to take a break and just enjoy being with my family and doing things with them.

Leaving on a positive note Megatron was indeed great he reminded me of the BW version who is obviously the best!

concrusher792 wrote:

partholon wrote:getting more and more worried grimlock will be protrayed as a moron.

You mean like he is in almost every continuity but the Marvel and IDW comics series and the Shattered Glass universe?

yes.

EXACTLY that.

it'd be typical of bay, whos rejected pretty much everything from the animated series down the years in terms of character to keep the ONE fuking stupid decison they made, which is to reduce grimlock to a moron.

even the video games knew how stupid that was.

grimlocks the brands dirty harry and this is the movieverse. if he fit ANYWHERE it'd be here.

i mean who WANTS moron grimlock? who out there actually shouts "YES this is the character i love most!" when you could have fall of cybertron grimlock, IDW grimlock, Marvel UK grilmock ?

it fecking baffles me yet it looks like once again he's getting jipped.

almost makes me glad he didnt open his mouth in the last one now.