Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14
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Synopsis
MACGUFFIN QUEST! The Scavengers have never had it so good. The war is a receding memory, their patchy service records have been forgotten, and the five of them can roam the galaxy as they please. All’s well that ends well? Not quite. Because unbeknownst to Krok and Co., their next adventure… will be their last.
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Story
It's been a surprisingly short time since the last issue of Transformers: Lost Light, and we may be finally catching up not only on releases, but also with the story and the various threads (bare?) running through the series up to this point - though in an entirely different direction this month! How so? Read on below.
oh just ignore us major villains floating away
First off, I want to say that I really enjoyed this issue in spite of/despite all my misgivings for the run so far, and I can find no discernible reason why that may be the case. I have two major points to address in terms of execution, but overall, issue #14 is enjoyable, extremely important from a plot perspective, and does some very good work with an established cast.
they're good Cons, Brent
My issue then: the pacing. There is a lot going on in the issue, and that is an entirely welcome development for the series, as I said above, as it feels more like we're catching up to speed with where the rest of the universe is. But, that said, some of it feels a little too fast, even with the lynchpins of Nickel and Grimlock serving to anchor the threads in the book.
Hi, lynchpins
On the flip side, those very same story plot threads are incredibly entertaining, and develop some mysteries that are not entirely out of left field but tie up with some of the more established lore so far, while also providing answers to some old and running questions. And to top it all off, the Scavengers' chemistry is a joy to read.
Art
Let me be quite direct here: Sara Pitre-Durocher and Brendan Cahill do some amazing work, each in their own part of the book, and taken alone, they work perfectly fine - I did, however, find a jarring shift between their styles as the books switches. Which is a real shame, as Cahill's chins and panel layouts for some of the more action-based scenes, and Pitre-Durocher's enjoyful villainy at the start and page layouts overall are gorgeous.
Dat perspective
I was wondering if it was, after all, a lack of cohesion in the colouring, by Joana Lafuente puts in some masterful levels of efforts and work in finding the tones and hues that do indeed bring consistency between the styles (different setting also helps) but there's still something clashing between the two takes of the same cast, in my view.
This is pretty spectacular
The lettering, and I know I say this a lot with Tom B. Long, but it is - is just amazing. The sound effects at times take over the soundscape of panels in such a way that makes the action or the silence work perfectly, and they work so well with the colours and lineart.
We've seen the majority of the covers in previous news coverage, from the main Lawrence/Lafuente piece to the variants by Nick Roche and Josh Burcham, and the thumbnailed Cahill/Lafuente one - so you really have a choice of Grimlocks to pick from this week - to check them all out again, head to our database!
Thoughts
Spoilerish ahead
I really enjoyed this chapter in the story, even with the issues I've highlighted above. Discussin it with other staff it feels like the rushed pacing has definitely had a different impression on different readers, so it may very well indeed be more to your speed - and it definitely is good plot propelling and enough of a combing of knots to prepare for what's to come.
Me reading this? nah, too dark
And even with the unfortunate speed bump in art - by no fault I think of the artistic teams, but rather an odd choice of pairing (not the first time this has happened of recent, actually) - catching up with the Scavengers also gives us a really, really intriguing development, with an initial hook (Shockwave and DJD) that has already annoyed a lot of readers I've seen comment; but given that it was, indeed, a hook, it was mischievously well played.
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Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1936424)
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 7th, 2018 @ 5:06am CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 7th, 2018 @ 5:06am CST
Always good to see grimlock back in action, as for the initial hook, people read the previews...they should of known it was just setup
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1936437)
Posted by Randomhero on February 7th, 2018 @ 6:52am CST
Posted by Randomhero on February 7th, 2018 @ 6:52am CST
I still don’t understand the Magnificance. So Scorponok had it? Then he lost it and it wound up on Troja Major?
Also Grimlock. His chest is unopenable but it’s not?
And I’m sorry but I’m gonna say it again. That opening was just a let down. It did nothing that couldn’t have been said in one sentence of Scorponoks explanation near the end. “Flame and I left with a shockwave when he left Garrus-9 and later we came back and picked up Grimlock.”
It was just a let down and I’m sorry if people wanted to see it and enjoyed it but it didn’t do anything. And yes people will say “it showed how Scorponok got off Garrus-9” we already knew that shockwave took him with. While not confirmed, it was always something that was just put together by people. It wasn’t really a mystery.
Also Grimlock. His chest is unopenable but it’s not?
And I’m sorry but I’m gonna say it again. That opening was just a let down. It did nothing that couldn’t have been said in one sentence of Scorponoks explanation near the end. “Flame and I left with a shockwave when he left Garrus-9 and later we came back and picked up Grimlock.”
It was just a let down and I’m sorry if people wanted to see it and enjoyed it but it didn’t do anything. And yes people will say “it showed how Scorponok got off Garrus-9” we already knew that shockwave took him with. While not confirmed, it was always something that was just put together by people. It wasn’t really a mystery.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1936447)
Posted by ScottyP on February 7th, 2018 @ 8:19am CST
Posted by ScottyP on February 7th, 2018 @ 8:19am CST
There's so much to enjoy in this one I don't know where to start. It's a very rewarding experience as an old-timer with this 12+ year continuity.
I have actual work at hand and should come back later when more have had a chance to read it, but that said, to start with: I took Scorponok's lines about Aequitas to imply that there is/was much more under there than just the Magnificence, does that sound right or is it wishful thinking?
I have actual work at hand and should come back later when more have had a chance to read it, but that said, to start with: I took Scorponok's lines about Aequitas to imply that there is/was much more under there than just the Magnificence, does that sound right or is it wishful thinking?
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1936448)
Posted by Randomhero on February 7th, 2018 @ 8:22am CST
Because that’s actually a continuity error. When first revealed something was underneath Aquitus overlord said aquitus was built to hide something and it was built way before the Autobot a took possession of the Magnificance.
There’s a a lot of continuity errors in this issue.
Posted by Randomhero on February 7th, 2018 @ 8:22am CST
ScottyP wrote:There's so much to enjoy in this one I don't know where to start. It's a very rewarding experience as an old-timer with this 12+ year continuity.
I have actual work at hand and should come back later when more have had a chance to read it, but that said, to start with: I took Scorponok's lines about Aequitas to imply that there is/was much more under there than just the Magnificence, does that sound right or is it wishful thinking?
Because that’s actually a continuity error. When first revealed something was underneath Aquitus overlord said aquitus was built to hide something and it was built way before the Autobot a took possession of the Magnificance.
There’s a a lot of continuity errors in this issue.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1936450)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on February 7th, 2018 @ 8:31am CST
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on February 7th, 2018 @ 8:31am CST
I'm calling it now, Grimlock didn't dismember the rest of the scavengers, Spinster did, in a way that keeps them all alive and easily repairable for an escape attempt.
Why else would they focus on him being a surgeon?
Why else would they focus on him being a surgeon?
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1936451)
Posted by ScottyP on February 7th, 2018 @ 8:39am CST
Posted by ScottyP on February 7th, 2018 @ 8:39am CST
I know the wiki guys posit that it's a continuity error but I don't think the dialogue is unambiguous enough to make that a certainty.Randomhero wrote:ScottyP wrote:There's so much to enjoy in this one I don't know where to start. It's a very rewarding experience as an old-timer with this 12+ year continuity.
I have actual work at hand and should come back later when more have had a chance to read it, but that said, to start with: I took Scorponok's lines about Aequitas to imply that there is/was much more under there than just the Magnificence, does that sound right or is it wishful thinking?
Because that’s actually a continuity error. When first revealed something was underneath Aquitus overlord said aquitus was built to hide something and it was built way before the Autobot a took possession of the Magnificance.
There’s a a lot of continuity errors in this issue.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1936452)
Posted by ScottyP on February 7th, 2018 @ 8:41am CST
Posted by ScottyP on February 7th, 2018 @ 8:41am CST
Ooh, I like this idea. Why else would there be such a time gap between events like there is? Although with Spinister losing an arm that makes this a little less likely - but I still like the thought!TF-fan kev777 wrote:I'm calling it now, Grimlock didn't dismember the rest of the scavengers, Spinster did, in a way that keeps them all alive and easily repairable for an escape attempt.
Why else would they focus on him being a surgeon?
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1936463)
Posted by Randomhero on February 7th, 2018 @ 10:02am CST
It’s pretty certain. Overlord states 6 years ago it was built to hide something and here it’s the Magnificance. Something that wasn’t in Autobot possession at the time of aquitus.
There’s nothing unambiguous about it. I’m sure James has already been asked about it and yet another fix for the trade like usual.
Posted by Randomhero on February 7th, 2018 @ 10:02am CST
ScottyP wrote:I know the wiki guys posit that it's a continuity error but I don't think the dialogue is unambiguous enough to make that a certainty.Randomhero wrote:ScottyP wrote:There's so much to enjoy in this one I don't know where to start. It's a very rewarding experience as an old-timer with this 12+ year continuity.
I have actual work at hand and should come back later when more have had a chance to read it, but that said, to start with: I took Scorponok's lines about Aequitas to imply that there is/was much more under there than just the Magnificence, does that sound right or is it wishful thinking?
Because that’s actually a continuity error. When first revealed something was underneath Aquitus overlord said aquitus was built to hide something and it was built way before the Autobot a took possession of the Magnificance.
There’s a a lot of continuity errors in this issue.
It’s pretty certain. Overlord states 6 years ago it was built to hide something and here it’s the Magnificance. Something that wasn’t in Autobot possession at the time of aquitus.
There’s nothing unambiguous about it. I’m sure James has already been asked about it and yet another fix for the trade like usual.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1936465)
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 7th, 2018 @ 10:11am CST
Sorry to be a bugbear but if it was enjoyed then it did do something. Comics are meant to be entertainment, they tell a tale that is all, if we find that enjoyment then they have done their purpose. As a writer I would be overjoyed if even just one person liked my work, the silver lining on a cloud of disappointment.
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 7th, 2018 @ 10:11am CST
Randomhero wrote:I still don’t understand the Magnificance. So Scorponok had it? Then he lost it and it wound up on Troja Major?
Also Grimlock. His chest is unopenable but it’s not?
And I’m sorry but I’m gonna day it again. That opening was just a let down. It did nothing that couldn’t have been said in one sentence of Scorponoks explanation near the end. “Flame and I left with a shockwave when he left Garrus-9 and later we came back and picked up Grimlock.”
It was just a let down and I’m sorry if people wanted to see it and enjoyed it but it didn’t do anything. And yes people will say “it showed how Scorponok got off Garrus-9” we already knew that shockwave took him with. While not confirmed, it was always something that was just put together by people. It wasn’t really a mystery.
Sorry to be a bugbear but if it was enjoyed then it did do something. Comics are meant to be entertainment, they tell a tale that is all, if we find that enjoyment then they have done their purpose. As a writer I would be overjoyed if even just one person liked my work, the silver lining on a cloud of disappointment.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1936471)
Posted by Randomhero on February 7th, 2018 @ 10:30am CST
And that’s why participant ribbons are no a thing.
“Don’t look at the bad only look at the good! Everyone is a winner!”
Doesn’t mean you have to ignore the problems. Seeing them and pointing them out gives the opportunity to learn and grow
Posted by Randomhero on February 7th, 2018 @ 10:30am CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Randomhero wrote:I still don’t understand the Magnificance. So Scorponok had it? Then he lost it and it wound up on Troja Major?
Also Grimlock. His chest is unopenable but it’s not?
And I’m sorry but I’m gonna day it again. That opening was just a let down. It did nothing that couldn’t have been said in one sentence of Scorponoks explanation near the end. “Flame and I left with a shockwave when he left Garrus-9 and later we came back and picked up Grimlock.”
It was just a let down and I’m sorry if people wanted to see it and enjoyed it but it didn’t do anything. And yes people will say “it showed how Scorponok got off Garrus-9” we already knew that shockwave took him with. While not confirmed, it was always something that was just put together by people. It wasn’t really a mystery.
Sorry to be a bugbear but if it was enjoyed then it did do something. Comics are meant to be entertainment, they tell a tale that is all, if we find that enjoyment then they have done their purpose. As a writer I would be overjoyed if even just one person liked my work, the silver lining on a cloud of disappointment.
And that’s why participant ribbons are no a thing.
“Don’t look at the bad only look at the good! Everyone is a winner!”
Doesn’t mean you have to ignore the problems. Seeing them and pointing them out gives the opportunity to learn and grow
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1936474)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 7th, 2018 @ 10:42am CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 7th, 2018 @ 10:42am CST
I enjoyed the issue too, all the Scorponok stuff coming together is making me happy and re-reading older stories has been fun to do.
So the Warren is brought up here again, and I can't help but wonder if Getaway actually used the Warren to find Scorponok's base of operations instead of Cyberutopia, and that is how the Lost Light itself will come to meet the scorponok and Scavengers threads.
So the magnificance game to G9 after Aequitus was created and left dormant, but what if there was actually a vault underneath that was built before it, and the magnificance was just hid there temporarily, and other stuff might be in there too that pre-dated the magnificance being there.
The magnificance being a part of a knight of Cybertron was an interesting concept, and it's further tying together the decepticon part of the story with the other parts. The choice of the characters involved with this story 10 years in the making or something like that is awesome.
And I say again, there is no coincidence that Rodimus is once more involved with the magnificance. I'm thinking the magnificance will somehow link to Rodimus and bring him and the displaced crew back to the main story to find Scorponok with Grimlock and the Scavengers with the Lost Light crew having been brought there as well, linking all the story parts up.
So the Warren is brought up here again, and I can't help but wonder if Getaway actually used the Warren to find Scorponok's base of operations instead of Cyberutopia, and that is how the Lost Light itself will come to meet the scorponok and Scavengers threads.
So the magnificance game to G9 after Aequitus was created and left dormant, but what if there was actually a vault underneath that was built before it, and the magnificance was just hid there temporarily, and other stuff might be in there too that pre-dated the magnificance being there.
The magnificance being a part of a knight of Cybertron was an interesting concept, and it's further tying together the decepticon part of the story with the other parts. The choice of the characters involved with this story 10 years in the making or something like that is awesome.
And I say again, there is no coincidence that Rodimus is once more involved with the magnificance. I'm thinking the magnificance will somehow link to Rodimus and bring him and the displaced crew back to the main story to find Scorponok with Grimlock and the Scavengers with the Lost Light crew having been brought there as well, linking all the story parts up.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1936476)
Posted by ArmadaPrime on February 7th, 2018 @ 10:51am CST
A (slightly) different angle: Spinster is specifically a neurosurgeon, right? Or at least, a surgeon with enough knowledge of neurosurgery to reverse the Luna 1 animals. The magnificence chamber in Grim is not only matrix-core shaped, but also brain module shaped, if a little oversized. It's implied that it linked somehow to his brain,
and it's absence is what caused him to go non-communicative. Yet suddenly, he's found his voice again. Perhaps some kind of merged scavenger brain in his chest cavity? Weirder things have happened, and most of the scavengers did have their heads detached in the last panel...
Posted by ArmadaPrime on February 7th, 2018 @ 10:51am CST
ScottyP wrote:Ooh, I like this idea. Why else would there be such a time gap between events like there is? Although with Spinister losing an arm that makes this a little less likely - but I still like the thought!TF-fan kev777 wrote:I'm calling it now, Grimlock didn't dismember the rest of the scavengers, Spinster did, in a way that keeps them all alive and easily repairable for an escape attempt.
Why else would they focus on him being a surgeon?
A (slightly) different angle: Spinster is specifically a neurosurgeon, right? Or at least, a surgeon with enough knowledge of neurosurgery to reverse the Luna 1 animals. The magnificence chamber in Grim is not only matrix-core shaped, but also brain module shaped, if a little oversized. It's implied that it linked somehow to his brain,
and it's absence is what caused him to go non-communicative. Yet suddenly, he's found his voice again. Perhaps some kind of merged scavenger brain in his chest cavity? Weirder things have happened, and most of the scavengers did have their heads detached in the last panel...
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1936485)
Posted by Va'al on February 7th, 2018 @ 11:23am CST
No one is ignoring the bad.
Posted by Va'al on February 7th, 2018 @ 11:23am CST
Randomhero wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Randomhero wrote:I still don’t understand the Magnificance. So Scorponok had it? Then he lost it and it wound up on Troja Major?
Also Grimlock. His chest is unopenable but it’s not?
And I’m sorry but I’m gonna day it again. That opening was just a let down. It did nothing that couldn’t have been said in one sentence of Scorponoks explanation near the end. “Flame and I left with a shockwave when he left Garrus-9 and later we came back and picked up Grimlock.”
It was just a let down and I’m sorry if people wanted to see it and enjoyed it but it didn’t do anything. And yes people will say “it showed how Scorponok got off Garrus-9” we already knew that shockwave took him with. While not confirmed, it was always something that was just put together by people. It wasn’t really a mystery.
Sorry to be a bugbear but if it was enjoyed then it did do something. Comics are meant to be entertainment, they tell a tale that is all, if we find that enjoyment then they have done their purpose. As a writer I would be overjoyed if even just one person liked my work, the silver lining on a cloud of disappointment.
And that’s why participant ribbons are no a thing.
“Don’t look at the bad only look at the good! Everyone is a winner!”
Doesn’t mean you have to ignore the problems. Seeing them and pointing them out gives the opportunity to learn and grow
No one is ignoring the bad.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1936490)
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 7th, 2018 @ 11:27am CST
But I'm not seeing a problem and other people aren't either. Sounds like you just want Roberts to change to suit what you want. This is why I said what I did about opinions not being facts. The bits you have problems with are just your take on them.
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 7th, 2018 @ 11:27am CST
Randomhero wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Randomhero wrote:I still don’t understand the Magnificance. So Scorponok had it? Then he lost it and it wound up on Troja Major?
Also Grimlock. His chest is unopenable but it’s not?
And I’m sorry but I’m gonna day it again. That opening was just a let down. It did nothing that couldn’t have been said in one sentence of Scorponoks explanation near the end. “Flame and I left with a shockwave when he left Garrus-9 and later we came back and picked up Grimlock.”
It was just a let down and I’m sorry if people wanted to see it and enjoyed it but it didn’t do anything. And yes people will say “it showed how Scorponok got off Garrus-9” we already knew that shockwave took him with. While not confirmed, it was always something that was just put together by people. It wasn’t really a mystery.
Sorry to be a bugbear but if it was enjoyed then it did do something. Comics are meant to be entertainment, they tell a tale that is all, if we find that enjoyment then they have done their purpose. As a writer I would be overjoyed if even just one person liked my work, the silver lining on a cloud of disappointment.
And that’s why participant ribbons are no a thing.
“Don’t look at the bad only look at the good! Everyone is a winner!”
Doesn’t mean you have to ignore the problems. Seeing them and pointing them out gives the opportunity to learn and grow
But I'm not seeing a problem and other people aren't either. Sounds like you just want Roberts to change to suit what you want. This is why I said what I did about opinions not being facts. The bits you have problems with are just your take on them.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1936603)
Posted by Ironhidensh on February 7th, 2018 @ 7:44pm CST
See though, you aren't pointing out problems, you are actively going after people who enjoyed the issue because how dare they!
The whole point Va'al has been making is that it's fine to be critical about the work, or even the artist. It is NOT okay to be critical about somebody enjoying that which you don't.
Random hero, that is what you are doing. It may not be your intention, but that is how you come across: mad because somebody had the sheer nerve to enjoy something you didn't. Be critical all you want, but stop attacking other for enjoying it. Goddamn.
On topic .......
This was another fun issue. It felt like old times to me. The scavengers are that group of friends you can always meet for drinks, no matter how long it's been.
I just finished up a massive re-read of the IDW series, and I gotta say, when read straight through, most of my previous issues disappear.
Posted by Ironhidensh on February 7th, 2018 @ 7:44pm CST
Randomhero wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Randomhero wrote:I still don’t understand the Magnificance. So Scorponok had it? Then he lost it and it wound up on Troja Major?
Also Grimlock. His chest is unopenable but it’s not?
And I’m sorry but I’m gonna day it again. That opening was just a let down. It did nothing that couldn’t have been said in one sentence of Scorponoks explanation near the end. “Flame and I left with a shockwave when he left Garrus-9 and later we came back and picked up Grimlock.”
It was just a let down and I’m sorry if people wanted to see it and enjoyed it but it didn’t do anything. And yes people will say “it showed how Scorponok got off Garrus-9” we already knew that shockwave took him with. While not confirmed, it was always something that was just put together by people. It wasn’t really a mystery.
Sorry to be a bugbear but if it was enjoyed then it did do something. Comics are meant to be entertainment, they tell a tale that is all, if we find that enjoyment then they have done their purpose. As a writer I would be overjoyed if even just one person liked my work, the silver lining on a cloud of disappointment.
And that’s why participant ribbons are no a thing.
“Don’t look at the bad only look at the good! Everyone is a winner!”
Doesn’t mean you have to ignore the problems. Seeing them and pointing them out gives the opportunity to learn and grow
See though, you aren't pointing out problems, you are actively going after people who enjoyed the issue because how dare they!
The whole point Va'al has been making is that it's fine to be critical about the work, or even the artist. It is NOT okay to be critical about somebody enjoying that which you don't.
Random hero, that is what you are doing. It may not be your intention, but that is how you come across: mad because somebody had the sheer nerve to enjoy something you didn't. Be critical all you want, but stop attacking other for enjoying it. Goddamn.
On topic .......
This was another fun issue. It felt like old times to me. The scavengers are that group of friends you can always meet for drinks, no matter how long it's been.
I just finished up a massive re-read of the IDW series, and I gotta say, when read straight through, most of my previous issues disappear.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1936688)
Posted by ricemazter on February 8th, 2018 @ 5:59am CST
Posted by ricemazter on February 8th, 2018 @ 5:59am CST
I found this issue to just be okay. It mostly felt like a whole lot of exposition with some bright spots that could've used more coverage.
I haven't really been interested in Nickel, but the idea that there's still this disconnect between her and other Decepticons is really cool and puts her change of heart at the end of DotL into perspective. She doesn't regret that she aided and abetted in the butchering of perhaps thousands of her fellow cons; that was for the cause. She just regrets that Tarn treated "innocent" cons as expendable. That's a neat idea I wish wasn't shut down immediately.
It was also nice to hang out with the scavengers again, but unfortunate that this was an "explain the plot" issue. This cast really works better within self contained stories.
I haven't really been interested in Nickel, but the idea that there's still this disconnect between her and other Decepticons is really cool and puts her change of heart at the end of DotL into perspective. She doesn't regret that she aided and abetted in the butchering of perhaps thousands of her fellow cons; that was for the cause. She just regrets that Tarn treated "innocent" cons as expendable. That's a neat idea I wish wasn't shut down immediately.
It was also nice to hang out with the scavengers again, but unfortunate that this was an "explain the plot" issue. This cast really works better within self contained stories.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1936689)
Posted by Va'al on February 8th, 2018 @ 6:12am CST
I almost agree with this, but to me the work done with Nickel and the Scavengers cast elevated the okayness to good. Plus, I'm actually happy about having the Scavengers join the wider universe in such a 'significant' way - not like they were entirely separated from it so far, but having them almost central to the wider plot is ..refreshing? Not the right word, but almost.
Posted by Va'al on February 8th, 2018 @ 6:12am CST
ricemazter wrote:I found this issue to just be okay. It mostly felt like a whole lot of exposition with some bright spots that could've used more coverage.
I haven't really been interested in Nickel, but the idea that there's still this disconnect between her and other Decepticons is really cool and puts her change of heart at the end of DotL into perspective. She doesn't regret that she aided and abetted in the butchering of perhaps thousands of her fellow cons; that was for the cause. She just regrets that Tarn treated "innocent" cons as expendable. That's a neat idea I wish wasn't shut down immediately.
It was also nice to hang out with the scavengers again, but unfortunate that this was an "explain the plot" issue. This cast really works better within self contained stories.
I almost agree with this, but to me the work done with Nickel and the Scavengers cast elevated the okayness to good. Plus, I'm actually happy about having the Scavengers join the wider universe in such a 'significant' way - not like they were entirely separated from it so far, but having them almost central to the wider plot is ..refreshing? Not the right word, but almost.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1936690)
Posted by Burn on February 8th, 2018 @ 6:46am CST
Posted by Burn on February 8th, 2018 @ 6:46am CST
I just ... I had this big long post typed out in regards to this latest issue, but it's the same thing I've been saying again and again, I'm over IDW expecting me to remember something that happened five or so years ago.
This issue had potential otherwise. And hey, it's definitely better than Transformers vs Magic Flehsbags.
This issue had potential otherwise. And hey, it's definitely better than Transformers vs Magic Flehsbags.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1936697)
Posted by Genericon #378 on February 8th, 2018 @ 7:46am CST
Posted by Genericon #378 on February 8th, 2018 @ 7:46am CST
Yeah, I'm not buying the whole 'death' of the Scavengers for a second. Worse things have happened to other characters, and they're fine. Red Alert took his own head off when he tried to kill himself. Hell, Rung's entire head exploded and he's alive. Getaway's been reduced to a torso with no voice before. The point is, killing them now is wasted potential.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1936727)
Posted by Tigertrack on February 8th, 2018 @ 10:35am CST
Posted by Tigertrack on February 8th, 2018 @ 10:35am CST
I think I liked this issue because that asshole Getaway didn't kill or have killed anymore bots that I like or care for.
More specifically though, I liked FINALLY hearing about Grimlock and what happened on G-9 and how he 'escaped'. I'm not sure of the Scavnegers fate, but it feels too much like the cliche 'guard, guard my friend is dead/maimed/sick come quick and open the door,' prison escape plans from how many stories. So I'm sure that the Scavengers are somehow playing that escape plan to the nth degree...
Grimlock being able to actually formulate and speak coherent thoughts now is a bit of a mystery, but let the healing begin/continue. How long have we been waiting to see a Grimlock/dinobots reunion? Since Max Dino's ended at least. I'm not predicting a reunion anytime soon, but perhaps a small step forward. I do understand that the creative teams have been most likely trying to get the dinobots to be more than just Grimlock's team, and have their own merit, which they do. I just want them to have their big moment sometime meeting back up.
Having the magnificence resurface and be more significant than last time is interesting, Makes me want to look up the fate of Doubledealer again, I'm always up for more TF history and story/world building.
I like the thoughts about the warren leading the LL crew to Cyberutopia, but instead to a position related to Scorponok. Or maybe everyone ends up at Cyberutopia.
Nice review Vaal. I love reading everyone's deep thoughts. It's nice to have Transformers fiction at this level to discuss, and to want to push the creators to continue to make even better stories.
More specifically though, I liked FINALLY hearing about Grimlock and what happened on G-9 and how he 'escaped'. I'm not sure of the Scavnegers fate, but it feels too much like the cliche 'guard, guard my friend is dead/maimed/sick come quick and open the door,' prison escape plans from how many stories. So I'm sure that the Scavengers are somehow playing that escape plan to the nth degree...
Grimlock being able to actually formulate and speak coherent thoughts now is a bit of a mystery, but let the healing begin/continue. How long have we been waiting to see a Grimlock/dinobots reunion? Since Max Dino's ended at least. I'm not predicting a reunion anytime soon, but perhaps a small step forward. I do understand that the creative teams have been most likely trying to get the dinobots to be more than just Grimlock's team, and have their own merit, which they do. I just want them to have their big moment sometime meeting back up.
Having the magnificence resurface and be more significant than last time is interesting, Makes me want to look up the fate of Doubledealer again, I'm always up for more TF history and story/world building.
I like the thoughts about the warren leading the LL crew to Cyberutopia, but instead to a position related to Scorponok. Or maybe everyone ends up at Cyberutopia.
Nice review Vaal. I love reading everyone's deep thoughts. It's nice to have Transformers fiction at this level to discuss, and to want to push the creators to continue to make even better stories.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1936734)
Posted by ricemazter on February 8th, 2018 @ 11:13am CST
This is more of an observation, but it's weird because I think the story is in this strange limbo where the main story has become the b story and the b story has become the main plot.
Also, didn't Snare say in last stand of the wreckers that Overlord had been torturing Grimlock? I guess Overlord must have known about the magnificence too?
Posted by ricemazter on February 8th, 2018 @ 11:13am CST
Va'al wrote:ricemazter wrote:I found this issue to just be okay. It mostly felt like a whole lot of exposition with some bright spots that could've used more coverage.
I haven't really been interested in Nickel, but the idea that there's still this disconnect between her and other Decepticons is really cool and puts her change of heart at the end of DotL into perspective. She doesn't regret that she aided and abetted in the butchering of perhaps thousands of her fellow cons; that was for the cause. She just regrets that Tarn treated "innocent" cons as expendable. That's a neat idea I wish wasn't shut down immediately.
It was also nice to hang out with the scavengers again, but unfortunate that this was an "explain the plot" issue. This cast really works better within self contained stories.
I almost agree with this, but to me the work done with Nickel and the Scavengers cast elevated the okayness to good. Plus, I'm actually happy about having the Scavengers join the wider universe in such a 'significant' way - not like they were entirely separated from it so far, but having them almost central to the wider plot is ..refreshing? Not the right word, but almost.
This is more of an observation, but it's weird because I think the story is in this strange limbo where the main story has become the b story and the b story has become the main plot.
Also, didn't Snare say in last stand of the wreckers that Overlord had been torturing Grimlock? I guess Overlord must have known about the magnificence too?
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1936810)
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 8th, 2018 @ 4:04pm CST
Could be wrong but did hot rod kill doubledealer as the latter was about to make his move for the magnificence?
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 8th, 2018 @ 4:04pm CST
Tigertrack wrote:I think I liked this issue because that asshole Getaway didn't kill or have killed anymore bots that I like or care for.
More specifically though, I liked FINAL4LY hearing about Grimlock and what happened on G-9 and how he 'escaped'. I'm not sure of the Scavnegers fate, but it feels too much like the cliche 'guard, guard my friend is dead/maimed/sick come quick and open the door,' prison escape plans from how many stories. So I'm sure that the Scavengers are somehow playing that escape plan to the nth degree...
Grimlock being able to actually formulate and speak coherent thoughts now is a bit of a mystery, but let the healing begin/continue. How long have we been waiting to see a Grimlock/dinobots reunion? Since Max Dino's ended at least. I'm not predicting a reunion anytime soon, but perhaps a small step forward. I do understand that the creative teams have been most likely trying to get the dinobots to be more than just Grimlock's team, and have their own merit, which they do. I just want them to have their big moment sometime meeting back up.
Having the magnificence resurface and be more significant than last time is interesting, Makes me want to look up the fate of Doubledealer again, I'm always up for more TF history and story/world building.
I like the thoughts about the warren leading the LL crew to Cyberutopia, but instead to a position related to Scorponok. Or maybe everyone ends up at Cyberutopia.
Nice review Vaal. I love reading everyone's deep thoughts. It's nice to have Transformers fiction at this level to discuss, and to want to push the creators to continue to make even better stories.
Could be wrong but did hot rod kill doubledealer as the latter was about to make his move for the magnificence?
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1937205)
Posted by Logsters65 on February 9th, 2018 @ 5:16pm CST
Posted by Logsters65 on February 9th, 2018 @ 5:16pm CST
I think the /spoiler/ scavengers are alive because of the surgeon point earlier as well as none of their major body parts (chest, head) being damaged or crushed when the real gridlock would have completely crushed them
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1937337)
Posted by Logsters65 on February 10th, 2018 @ 11:59am CST
Posted by Logsters65 on February 10th, 2018 @ 11:59am CST
I think the /spoiler/ scavengers are alive because of the surgeon point earlier as well as none of their major body parts (chest, head) being damaged or crushed when the real gridlock would have completely crushed them
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1937344)
Posted by Logsters65 on February 10th, 2018 @ 12:53pm CST
Posted by Logsters65 on February 10th, 2018 @ 12:53pm CST
I think the /spoiler/ scavengers are alive because of the surgeon point earlier as well as none of their major body parts (chest, head) being damaged or crushed when the real gridlock would have completely crushed them
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1937365)
Posted by Tigertrack on February 10th, 2018 @ 2:51pm CST
Posted by Tigertrack on February 10th, 2018 @ 2:51pm CST
Interesting note: both recent issues of lost light have ended with a character talking complete thoughts who before was not speaking more than 7-8 (Grimlock), or one (ten).
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1937368)
Posted by not_a_bot on February 10th, 2018 @ 3:03pm CST
... and the next issue would have been MTMTE 71.
Posted by not_a_bot on February 10th, 2018 @ 3:03pm CST
Tigertrack wrote:Interesting note: both recent issues of lost light have ended with a character talking complete thoughts who before was not speaking more than 7-8 (Grimlock), or one (ten).
... and the next issue would have been MTMTE 71.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1937608)
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 11th, 2018 @ 6:52am CST
Is that important?
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 11th, 2018 @ 6:52am CST
not_a_bot wrote:Tigertrack wrote:Interesting note: both recent issues of lost light have ended with a character talking complete thoughts who before was not speaking more than 7-8 (Grimlock), or one (ten).
... and the next issue would have been MTMTE 71.
Is that important?
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1937611)
Posted by not_a_bot on February 11th, 2018 @ 6:55am CST
Maybe?
Posted by not_a_bot on February 11th, 2018 @ 6:55am CST
ZeroWolf wrote:not_a_bot wrote:Tigertrack wrote:Interesting note: both recent issues of lost light have ended with a character talking complete thoughts who before was not speaking more than 7-8 (Grimlock), or one (ten).
... and the next issue would have been MTMTE 71.
Is that important?
Maybe?
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1937613)
Posted by Tigertrack on February 11th, 2018 @ 6:58am CST
Posted by Tigertrack on February 11th, 2018 @ 6:58am CST
Sorry, just thought it was interesting to bring up these non-vocal bots each finding very detailed voices at the end of their respective issues.
Nothing more.
Nothing more.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1937963)
Posted by ScottyP on February 12th, 2018 @ 10:33am CST
Posted by ScottyP on February 12th, 2018 @ 10:33am CST
Yeah sure but this is MTMTE/Lost Light, there's almost definitely something more! Agonizer did mention something about a spiritual ley line...Tigertrack wrote:Sorry, just thought it was interesting to bring up these non-vocal bots each finding very detailed voices at the end of their respective issues.
Nothing more.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1938180)
Posted by Va'al on February 13th, 2018 @ 4:32am CST
Posted by Va'al on February 13th, 2018 @ 4:32am CST
Directly from IDW Publishing, we have a full preview for the second collected trade paperback for the ongoing series Transformers: Lost Light, written by James Roberts and with art by Jack Lawrence and Priscilla Tramontano, plus Andrew Griffith (for this volume).
Check out the opening pages below, and join the discussion in the Energon Pub, as we revisit the Mutineers Trilogy, Troja Major and more!
Check out the opening pages below, and join the discussion in the Energon Pub, as we revisit the Mutineers Trilogy, Troja Major and more!
Transformers: Lost Light, Vol. 2
James Roberts (w) • Jack Lawrence, Priscilla Tramontano (a) • Alex Milne (c)
Rodimus and his Autobot crew continue their adventure as they chase the starship Lost Light—and its mutinous new captain! A witty, smart, emotional take on fan-favorite Transformers characters in a sci-fi world unlike any other! Collects issues #7–12.
TPB • FC • $19.99 • 144 pages • ISBN: 978-1-68405-148-9
Bullet points:
·“This book is for everyone, new readers, old readers, even people that don’t think they like Transformers.”—Outright Geekery
·Advance solicited for March release!
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1938184)
Posted by steve2275 on February 13th, 2018 @ 5:12am CST
Posted by steve2275 on February 13th, 2018 @ 5:12am CST
when did volume 2 start?
i must really be out of the loop
i must really be out of the loop
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1938223)
Posted by ScottyP on February 13th, 2018 @ 8:01am CST
Posted by ScottyP on February 13th, 2018 @ 8:01am CST
It collects issues 7 through 12; 7 was released on 6/28/17, 12 on 12/27/17.steve2275 wrote:when did volume 2 start?
i must really be out of the loop
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1938236)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on February 13th, 2018 @ 9:36am CST
Posted by Rodimus Knight on February 13th, 2018 @ 9:36am CST
BTW, did they ever explain why Rodimus / Hot Rod changed colors?
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1938239)
Posted by Va'al on February 13th, 2018 @ 10:10am CST
Yep! Very early on, too!
A Spectralist homage/tribute of mourning for those they lost in the MTMTE run. Image here: https://78.media.tumblr.com/056d48f9a8c ... 0_1280.jpg
Posted by Va'al on February 13th, 2018 @ 10:10am CST
Rodimus Knight wrote:BTW, did they ever explain why Rodimus / Hot Rod changed colors?
Yep! Very early on, too!
A Spectralist homage/tribute of mourning for those they lost in the MTMTE run. Image here: https://78.media.tumblr.com/056d48f9a8c ... 0_1280.jpg
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1938282)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on February 13th, 2018 @ 12:05pm CST
Thank you, I appreciate the explanation.
Posted by Rodimus Knight on February 13th, 2018 @ 12:05pm CST
Va'al wrote:Rodimus Knight wrote:BTW, did they ever explain why Rodimus / Hot Rod changed colors?
Yep! Very early on, too!
A Spectralist homage/tribute of mourning for those they lost in the MTMTE run. Image here: https://78.media.tumblr.com/056d48f9a8c ... 0_1280.jpg
Thank you, I appreciate the explanation.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1938841)
Posted by Va'al on February 15th, 2018 @ 5:34am CST
Posted by Va'al on February 15th, 2018 @ 5:34am CST
Courtesy of iTunes once more, we have another quick preview of a comic due in a couple of weeks (allegedly, February 28th): IDW Publishing's ongoing series Transformers: Lost Light #15! Returning to THE SCAVENGERS, Grimlock, Scorponok and more Maximum Dinobots references you can shake a spinal cord at, the opening pages already spoil the ending of the previous chapter, so avoid reading below if you're waiting for the trade!
SECRETS AND LIES! As the Scavengers’ journey reaches its ignoble end, the architect of their downfall puts the fate of half the Cybertronian race in their hands. Only one question remains: Are the worst Decepticons prepared to become the ONLY Decepticons?
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1938844)
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 15th, 2018 @ 6:39am CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 15th, 2018 @ 6:39am CST
So it was a fake out then, can't wait to see how they pulled it off
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1938845)
Posted by Steelbane621 on February 15th, 2018 @ 6:47am CST
Posted by Steelbane621 on February 15th, 2018 @ 6:47am CST
Oh my god I though they were really dead Lin issue 14 I. So happy that they’re still alive
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1938857)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on February 15th, 2018 @ 7:57am CST
I'm pretty sure I called it after LL14 came out. Grimlock didn't dismember the Scavengers, Spinster did as part of a ruse to escape. Why else did the focus on him being a surgeon for a few panels? He dismembered them in a way that didn't harm them and could be easily fixed while the guards thought they were all dead and took Grimlock to Scorponok.
Honestly, I think I like the Scavengers story arc the best out of all of them.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on February 15th, 2018 @ 7:57am CST
ZeroWolf wrote:So it was a fake out then, can't wait to see how they pulled it off
I'm pretty sure I called it after LL14 came out. Grimlock didn't dismember the Scavengers, Spinster did as part of a ruse to escape. Why else did the focus on him being a surgeon for a few panels? He dismembered them in a way that didn't harm them and could be easily fixed while the guards thought they were all dead and took Grimlock to Scorponok.
Honestly, I think I like the Scavengers story arc the best out of all of them.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1938872)
Posted by Deadput on February 15th, 2018 @ 8:57am CST
Posted by Deadput on February 15th, 2018 @ 8:57am CST
I'm surprised the obvious fake out fooled anyone could of read the descriptions and know that they were not dead yet.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1938880)
Posted by Lore Keeper on February 15th, 2018 @ 9:20am CST
Posted by Lore Keeper on February 15th, 2018 @ 9:20am CST
My thought upon reading that last panel: "Got 'im!"
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1938890)
Posted by ScottyP on February 15th, 2018 @ 9:35am CST
Posted by ScottyP on February 15th, 2018 @ 9:35am CST
Had I made a bet on whether or not Abraham Dante would ever be acknowledged again, then I would have lost money this morning. Got a bit of a Masterforce vibe from that, not anything serious but just a touch and that's a neat concept.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1938961)
Posted by avarathriul on February 15th, 2018 @ 12:14pm CST
Posted by avarathriul on February 15th, 2018 @ 12:14pm CST
so, so excited
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1938968)
Posted by o.supreme on February 15th, 2018 @ 12:33pm CST
Posted by o.supreme on February 15th, 2018 @ 12:33pm CST
I'll just be excited also if Visionaries #3 and LL #15 some out on the 28th, because that will mean we are not behind anymore
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1939004)
Posted by Hotconvoy on February 15th, 2018 @ 1:53pm CST
Posted by Hotconvoy on February 15th, 2018 @ 1:53pm CST
I know i'm gunna sound like an idiot, but who is the big pink scavenger in the back?
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1939037)
Posted by Va'al on February 15th, 2018 @ 3:03pm CST
Do you mean Spinister?
Posted by Va'al on February 15th, 2018 @ 3:03pm CST
Hotconvoy wrote:I know i'm gunna sound like an idiot, but who is the big pink scavenger in the back?
Do you mean Spinister?
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #14 (1939039)
Posted by Hotconvoy on February 15th, 2018 @ 3:08pm CST
That's Spinister? That makes sence. Thanks
Posted by Hotconvoy on February 15th, 2018 @ 3:08pm CST
Va'al wrote:Hotconvoy wrote:I know i'm gunna sound like an idiot, but who is the big pink scavenger in the back?
Do you mean Spinister?
That's Spinister? That makes sence. Thanks
