SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more

Monday, July 10th, 2017 11:55AM CDT

Categories: Toy News, Event News
Posted by: Kurona Views: 32,530

Topic Options: View Discussion · Sign in or Join to reply

Courtesy of news site Entertainment Weekly, we've got news of another SDCC 2017 exclusive which might excite fans on the IDW side of things -- a Revolution boxset featuring characters from all seven franchises involved, at last immortalising the comic's Hasbro universe in plastic!

At a hefty price tag of $99.99, probably the most notable inclusion in this boxset would be Jetfire; using his Leader-class mold which was released way back in Generations Thrilling 30 in 2014 -- this time sporting a few deco changes to be more accurate to his appearance in IDW's Optimus Prime series, including de-chromed guns. Other participants in the set would be GI Joe's Roadblock, ROM's eponymous Space Knight and one of the Dire Wraiths he fights, MASK's Matt Tracker, Action Man's... Action Man, a whole load of Micronauts in adorable tiny figurine form... and Leoric from Visionaries, confirming - if there was any doubt - that that franchise is to join Transformers, GI Joe and others in IDW's Hasbroverse.

Check out the images of the figures and box below and tell us what you think in the forums!

Transformers News: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe and more

Credit(s): Entertainment Weekly

News Search

Got Transformers News? Let us know here!

Most Recent Transformers News

Legacy Wave 3 Preorders Live

Posted 1 day ago

April Fanstream Confirms Figures Coming to the Studio Series Line plus Comic Edition Leader Straxus

Posted 1 day ago

Early Listings for 2025 Transformers Exclusives Include Ironfist, Carnivac, Sonic Collab and Hearts of Steel Toys

Posted 2 days ago

Click here to post your comment about this news story!

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895545)
Posted by RAR on July 10th, 2017 @ 12:09pm CDT

I thought the Movie commemoration Transformers 3 pack of bumblebee's was pointless - but that Jetfire may actually be even more superfluous to requirements.

Almost ANYTHING would have been better - why the hell wasn't it Sunstorm or Acidstorm or something like that - Even Ghost Starscream?

Also a Visionary with no hologram offends me on a visceral level

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895546)
Posted by ScottyP on July 10th, 2017 @ 12:10pm CDT

I like this in general. Plenty of cool stuff here, especially with Rom and AM getting some new toys. Surprised they passed on Scarlett. I'd guess it's Jetfire instead of the TF characters that were actually in Revolution for several reasons, but a Thundercracker/Buster combo would've been rad too. I'd bet there are more sets like this coming, probably as soon as Hascon.

Action Man's headsculpt is bad but I don't expect much from Joe toy headsculpts. I haven't been impressed by any of the TFCC sets' Joe toys.

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895547)
Posted by Kurona on July 10th, 2017 @ 12:11pm CDT

RAR wrote:I thought the Movie commemoration Transformers 3 pack of bumblebee's was pointless - but that Jetfire may actually be even more superfluous to requirements.

Almost ANYTHING would have been better - why the hell wasn't it Sunstorm or Acidstorm or something like that - Even Ghost Starscream?

Probably because Sunstorm and Acid Storm are bit players at best in IDW and... well, everything but one volume of Dreamwave really.

The point of this boxset is to get together big, recognisable characters from the Hasbroverse into one boxset. And honestly I'm a pretty big fan of the fact they went with Jetfire since for some people he's been hard to get, especially with de-chromed guns.

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895548)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on July 10th, 2017 @ 12:11pm CDT

WHAAAAAAAT!?!?! no holographic stickers on leoric? :-(

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895550)
Posted by RAR on July 10th, 2017 @ 12:14pm CDT

OK what did I miss why is Matt Trakker Black ?

Is Julio Lopez, Hondo MacLane, Bruce Sato and heck knows how many other not enough diversity for them ?

Is Miles Mayhem got a sister now instead of Maximus then ?

Congratulations IDW you managed to make me face palm more than I did with you made Prowl a Constructicon

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895551)
Posted by ScottyP on July 10th, 2017 @ 12:15pm CDT

RAR wrote:I thought the Movie commemoration Transformers 3 pack of bumblebee's was pointless - but that Jetfire may actually be even more superfluous to requirements.

Almost ANYTHING would have been better - why the hell wasn't it Sunstorm or Acidstorm or something like that - Even Ghost Starscream?

Because the rainmakers have only made background cameos in IDW and Ghost Starscream doesn't exist in that universe. The Jetfire re-release is an opportunity for folks that didn't import Takara's version, or for new readers that are enjoying the Optimus Prime comic where Jetfire has a major role, to get their hands on the toy. I don't see a big issue with it. This is really sensible Con set/casual fan bait and it'll probably sell out annoyingly quickly on HTS.

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895553)
Posted by Kurona on July 10th, 2017 @ 12:20pm CDT

On closer comparison, looks like Jetfire's colour choices and applications are identical to Takara's Legends release. Pretty friggin' sweet!

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895554)
Posted by ScottyP on July 10th, 2017 @ 12:21pm CDT

RAR wrote:OK what did I miss

The entire point of this set.

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895555)
Posted by Relic0037 on July 10th, 2017 @ 12:22pm CDT

Finally bought a Jetfire about a month ago, but even if I hadn't, I don't think I would spend the outrageous prices scalpers will be charging on eBay for this set. A Visonary figure without a hologram & a MASK figure without a vehicle don't make this worth going out of my way for.

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895556)
Posted by Kurona on July 10th, 2017 @ 12:22pm CDT

ScottyP wrote:
RAR wrote:I thought the Movie commemoration Transformers 3 pack of bumblebee's was pointless - but that Jetfire may actually be even more superfluous to requirements.

Almost ANYTHING would have been better - why the hell wasn't it Sunstorm or Acidstorm or something like that - Even Ghost Starscream?
Because the rainmakers have only made background cameos in IDW and Ghost Starscream doesn't exist in that universe. The Jetfire re-release is an opportunity for folks that didn't import Takara's version, or for new readers that are enjoying the Optimus Prime comic where Jetfire has a major role, to get their hands on the toy. I don't see a big issue with it. This is really sensible Con set/casual fan bait and it'll probably sell out annoyingly quickly on HTS.

Also his inclusion over someone more important like, say, Optimus himself is likely because this toy is pretty much 100% accurate to his appearance in the IDW comics -- while Optimus unfortunately doesn't have an official toy besides maybe the Legends figure accurate to his current IDW appearance yet.

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895557)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 10th, 2017 @ 12:22pm CDT

So it's basically Takara leader Jetfire with maybe one or two new paint dabs and a bunch of GI Joe retools. FYI, that Roadblock was supposed to be released as a Wal-Mart exclusive with some interchangeable bits to go from The Rock to Renegades Roadblock. That looks mostly like the Renegades figure.

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895559)
Posted by RAR on July 10th, 2017 @ 12:26pm CDT

You can get a Takara Jetfire on ebay for a fraction of it's original price - new in box - I can't see the appeal of selling you a old toy twice and it's not even changed or unusual - if it was Dark Skyfire or Powerlinx Colours - i'd have been quite interested.

But seriously if that mould needed re-releasing it was as another character such as http://www.tfu.info/1991/Autobot/Powerf ... rflash.htm
or
http://www.tfu.info/1990/Autobot/Skyfall/skyfall.htm

Were the previous comic convetion Gi Joe / Transformers giftsets even compliant to the comics anyway.

I'm sure they could have found something better than a no-effort re-release of a sub-standard mould.

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895560)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 10th, 2017 @ 12:29pm CDT

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895562)
Posted by Kurona on July 10th, 2017 @ 12:33pm CDT

RAR wrote:You can get a Takara Jetfire on ebay for a fraction of it's original price - new in box - I can't see the appeal of selling you a old toy twice and it's not even changed or unusual - if it was Dark Skyfire or Powerlinx Colours - i'd have been quite interested.

But seriously if that mould needed re-releasing it was as another character such as http://www.tfu.info/1991/Autobot/Powerf ... rflash.htm
or
http://www.tfu.info/1990/Autobot/Skyfall/skyfall.htm

Were the previous comic convetion Gi Joe / Transformers giftsets even compliant to the comics anyway.

I'm sure they could have found something better than a no-effort re-release of a sub-standard mould.

Which would be a good idea -- if Powerflash, Skyfall and Dark Skyfire were relevant characters in the Hasbro verse rather than being a background character on the Lost Light, being dead and not existing. Again, Jetfire's here because he's a relevant Hasbroverse character as a main part of Optimus' crew and he's relatively well-known to casual Transformers fans.

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895563)
Posted by RAR on July 10th, 2017 @ 12:35pm CDT

ScottyP wrote:
RAR wrote:OK what did I miss
The entire point of this set.

Well the Micronauts minifigures would have been nice on their own.
3 or 4 Visionaries on their own would have been good too (but only if they had holograms)

Rom is cool but he'd have been better sold in a miniature replica vintage box - his "enemy looks like a repaint to me Zombie Viper is it ?

Jetfire has no purpose existing and can't be justified at all.

They could have re-issued Combiner Wars Optimus in different shades at least. Shame they didn't just throw the comic compliance out the window and use the unreleased Botcon idea for an Optimus that was a mash up of Armoured Convoy Optimus and Hero Optimus using the Titans Return mould as then the mini-figures would have complemented that a bit.

But yes you are right I don't see the point of the Transformers element of the set - the others are mostly fine (other than the headswapped Matt Trakker repaint).

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895564)
Posted by Seibertron on July 10th, 2017 @ 12:37pm CDT

RAR wrote:You can get a Takara Jetfire on ebay for a fraction of it's original price - new in box - I can't see the appeal of selling you a old toy twice and it's not even changed or unusual - if it was Dark Skyfire or Powerlinx Colours - i'd have been quite interested.

But seriously if that mould needed re-releasing it was as another character such as http://www.tfu.info/1991/Autobot/Powerf ... rflash.htm
or
http://www.tfu.info/1990/Autobot/Skyfall/skyfall.htm

Were the previous comic convetion Gi Joe / Transformers giftsets even compliant to the comics anyway.

I'm sure they could have found something better than a no-effort re-release of a sub-standard mould.

I think you've completely missed the point of this set.

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895565)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 10th, 2017 @ 12:39pm CDT

They obviously wanted a Leader class figure to give SOME semblance of giant-robot scale with all the G.I. Joe-sized figures. And at that a Leader class that didn't have a Titan Master gimmick since the small figure would throw off the illusion of said giant-robot scale with the G.I. Joe-sized figures.

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895566)
Posted by ScottyP on July 10th, 2017 @ 12:39pm CDT

chuckdawg1999 wrote:FYI, that Roadblock was supposed to be released as a Wal-Mart exclusive with some interchangeable bits to go from The Rock to Renegades Roadblock. That looks mostly like the Renegades figure.

This is interesting to me. What else was meant to be in those sets? Just wondering if they'll try to get some other current IDW Joe characters out of them. Quick Kick, Rock n Roll, Crystal Ball, and Storm Shadow have been pretty rad. Not to mention the over-the-top 90s cheese villains like Ironblood, Kreiger, and Von Rani.

Kurona wrote:Also his inclusion over someone more important like, say, Optimus himself is likely because this toy is pretty much 100% accurate to his appearance in the IDW comics -- while Optimus unfortunately doesn't have and official toy besides maybe the Legends figure accurate to his current IDW appearance yet.

Fair point, but I bet if there weren't two other SDCC OP toys they would've included the Cyber Commander OP. Limitations of the mold aside, it's quite IDW in appearance.

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895567)
Posted by RAR on July 10th, 2017 @ 12:40pm CDT

These were more interesting colours (but they've been done already with the other mould - applying them to the new one would be mildly interesting)

http://www.tfu.info/2010/Destron/DarkSk ... kyfire.htm

Seibertron wrote:
I think you've completely missed the point of this set.

(quite possibly) but feel free to educate me how so ?

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895568)
Posted by Kurona on July 10th, 2017 @ 12:41pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:They obviously wanted a Leader class figure to give SOME semblance of giant-robot scale with all the G.I. Joe-sized figures. And at that a Leader class that didn't have a Titan Master gimmick since the small figure would throw off the illusion of said giant-robot scale with the G.I. Joe-sized figures.

This too. There's actually a lot more reasons than I thought.

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895569)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 10th, 2017 @ 12:43pm CDT

RAR wrote:http://www.tfu.info/2010/Destron/DarkSkyfire/darkskyfire.htm

Dude, SDCC isn't the place for obscure nobody exclusives. It's for exclusives of characters who have mainstream appeal/marketability, characters that either a lot of people already know about or whom Hasbro wants a lot of people to know about. Jetfire's a very well known Transformer, loved by SDCC's usual crowd. He's the perfect choice for this kind of convention set. Stop thinking of SDCC like BotCon.

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895570)
Posted by ScottyP on July 10th, 2017 @ 12:45pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:They obviously wanted a Leader class figure to give SOME semblance of giant-robot scale with all the G.I. Joe-sized figures. And at that a Leader class that didn't have a Titan Master gimmick since the small figure would throw off the illusion of said giant-robot scale with the G.I. Joe-sized figures.

Now that you mention TMs, a Joe sized Blackrock/Sovereign would be pretty cool.

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895571)
Posted by RAR on July 10th, 2017 @ 12:48pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
RAR wrote:http://www.tfu.info/2010/Destron/DarkSkyfire/darkskyfire.htm
Dude, SDCC isn't the place for obscure nobody exclusives. It's for exclusives of characters who have mainstream appeal/marketability. Jetfire's a very well known Transformer, loved by SDCC's usual crowd. He's the perfect choice for this kind of convention set. Stop thinking of SDCC like BotCon.

Yeah but it already exists - they are selling you the same toy again and claiming it's something special - it's not something special.

Taxi- Bumblebee or Pink Arcee were something special - this is a cynical way to pad a boxed set that didn't need a Transformer in the set at all.

Seriously You can not find one single mould or colour scheme that wouldn't be a cynical cash grab unlike that Jetfire.

------

This set offers nothing special (outside the figures) and to think I though Hound was Lazy - this simply put isn't a good set compared to the Gi Joe Skystriker Starscream or the Hisstank Shockwave.

Those had a double point to them - this is just insulting (mainly jetfire) but the lack of the hologram on Leoric is really insulting too.

Really they'd have been better off just making Rom on his own.

--------

I guess I am feeling offended that they made a Giftset with a Transformer in it that is overtly not aimed at typical Transformers fans. it's aimed at impluse buying newbies who likely have touched non of these character either since the 1980's or 1990's or may have seen a cartoon of a couple of them.

So yeah - cynical and aggressive like the Bumblebee 3 pack, the superflous Movie 1986 anniversary giftset or the 2007 Optimus Leader re-release. I'm not impressed - but I'll shut up now and let others talk.

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895572)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 10th, 2017 @ 12:50pm CDT

RAR wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
RAR wrote:http://www.tfu.info/2010/Destron/DarkSkyfire/darkskyfire.htm
Dude, SDCC isn't the place for obscure nobody exclusives. It's for exclusives of characters who have mainstream appeal/marketability. Jetfire's a very well known Transformer, loved by SDCC's usual crowd. He's the perfect choice for this kind of convention set. Stop thinking of SDCC like BotCon.

Yeah but it already exists - they are selling you the same toy again and claiming it's something special

No, they are claiming that the whole set, which Jetfire but one part of, is special.

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895575)
Posted by Flashwave on July 10th, 2017 @ 1:02pm CDT

When I saw the thumbnail, becore reading the comments, I said "Cool, they used Skyfire's figure as the G I Joe Tomcat like they did a year or two back. Nice homage."

Obviously, thats probably not what they did. But it works.

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895576)
Posted by Mindmaster on July 10th, 2017 @ 1:06pm CDT

Looks nice. I kinda want Rom, but that's it.

Why does Roadblock have mutton chops? His goatee is trademark!

Really hoping this isn't all we're getting. I demand a blinged out Trypticon!

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895577)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on July 10th, 2017 @ 1:12pm CDT

Kurona wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:They obviously wanted a Leader class figure to give SOME semblance of giant-robot scale with all the G.I. Joe-sized figures. And at that a Leader class that didn't have a Titan Master gimmick since the small figure would throw off the illusion of said giant-robot scale with the G.I. Joe-sized figures.

This too. There's actually a lot more reasons than I thought.

Soundwave and Mainframe might have made more sense than Jetfire and Roadblock, but yeah, the TM gimmick would have been weird, and Soundwave's alt mode would have been wrong. Also, personally, I don't want TR Soundwave and I didn't get Generations Jetfire, so this makes me happy.

And comic accurate Matt Trakker! Now if only we could get Thunderhawk! That was one of the first toys I remember - I slept with it like it was a teddy bear.

Oddly, considering "Matt Trakker" was one of the first names I learned, just after "Mom", "Dad", and "He-Man" it didn't really phase me that they changed his racial background - as changes go, removing the single father aspect of his character seemed more significant...

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895581)
Posted by Hydrargyrus on July 10th, 2017 @ 1:28pm CDT

Cool. I think the size, style, and significance work well for the set. Even the colors are of importance.

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895584)
Posted by Coptur on July 10th, 2017 @ 1:37pm CDT

RAR wrote:I thought the Movie commemoration Transformers 3 pack of bumblebee's was pointless - but that Jetfire may actually be even more superfluous to requirements.

Almost ANYTHING would have been better - why the hell wasn't it Sunstorm or Acidstorm or something like that - Even Ghost Starscream?

Also a Visionary with no hologram offends me on a visceral level

I agree with the Jetfire thing but Sun & Acid aren't and haven't been major players in IDW.

I actually like the Visionaries look as he's more toon accurate that and the hologram technology and process is expensive for for toy companies and they look rubbish or fade over time.
All good but until IDW follow in DC and Mattel's book (with the Wally/Wallace Flash & ZodaC/K) they can keep the Matt Trakker.

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895602)
Posted by Daniel Adkins on July 10th, 2017 @ 2:25pm CDT

I love absolutely everything about this set. A new Rom toy after almost 40 years! A Dire Wraith toy! Ian Noble Action Man! Tiny Micronauts!! Everything about this is awesome, amazing, wonderful, and I love it.

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895608)
Posted by Desslok2201 on July 10th, 2017 @ 2:40pm CDT

It's a nice idea, but I don't like the execution.
Is it just me or does that Roadblock remind anyone else of the Tranny's husband on It's Always Sunny?

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895611)
Posted by dragons on July 10th, 2017 @ 2:46pm CDT

Wow price is cheap what I expected roadblock doesn't have sideburns in comic but he have them on figure

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895614)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on July 10th, 2017 @ 2:56pm CDT

dragons wrote:Wow price is cheap what I expected roadblock doesn't have sideburns in comic but he have them on figure

I guess if people are concerned about Roadblock's comic book accuracy they could remove his head and replace it with the Dire Wraith's head? That would make it up to date, at least, right?

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895636)
Posted by Burn on July 10th, 2017 @ 4:01pm CDT

Wait ... so ... Road Block who has a bitchin' goatee in the comics, ends up with side burns instead?

Oh that's harsh. :lol:

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895639)
Posted by Kurona on July 10th, 2017 @ 4:07pm CDT

Burn wrote:Wait ... so ... Road Block who has a bitchin' goatee in the comics, ends up with side burns instead?

Oh that's harsh.

I know, right?! I'm not a big fan of the GI Joe comics but that was such an awesome part of his profile that I'm sad to see it not represented

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895661)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 10th, 2017 @ 4:53pm CDT

I'm shocked their is so much backlash against this gift set. No one is required to buy it. Let the people who like it or want it buy it. If it doesn't interest you, just save up your money for something else. It's as simple as that. I'm not buying it, because I only have an interest in the Transformers figures, and I already have the Takara Legends Jetfire figure. I'm not going to begrudge anyone else who may have need of any or all of this set just because I have no personal use for it.

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895665)
Posted by Kurona on July 10th, 2017 @ 4:58pm CDT

I quite like it myself. ROM, Action Man and the Micronauts are just wonderful; and this is a great re-issue of Jetfire (with no chromed guns!!!!). Only real problem for me is that Roadblock doesn't have his awesome goatee, and I'm not overly fond of how that Dire Wraith is done even though I know what they're going for. I also don't really have much care for Leoric since Visionaries hasn't actually started yet in IDW -- though who knows, maybe it'll be even better than MTMTE and TAAO combined and I'll fall in love :lol:

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895672)
Posted by Burn on July 10th, 2017 @ 5:11pm CDT

Kurona wrote:
Burn wrote:Wait ... so ... Road Block who has a bitchin' goatee in the comics, ends up with side burns instead?

Oh that's harsh.

I know, right?! I'm not a big fan of the GI Joe comics but that was such an awesome part of his profile that I'm sad to see it not represented

But to replace it with side burns. That's just wrong.

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895674)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 10th, 2017 @ 5:14pm CDT

ScottyP wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:FYI, that Roadblock was supposed to be released as a Wal-Mart exclusive with some interchangeable bits to go from The Rock to Renegades Roadblock. That looks mostly like the Renegades figure.
This is interesting to me. What else was meant to be in those sets? Just wondering if they'll try to get some other current IDW Joe characters out of them. Quick Kick, Rock n Roll, Crystal Ball, and Storm Shadow have been pretty rad. Not to mention the over-the-top 90s cheese villains like Ironblood, Kreiger, and Von Rani.

Kurona wrote:Also his inclusion over someone more important like, say, Optimus himself is likely because this toy is pretty much 100% accurate to his appearance in the IDW comics -- while Optimus unfortunately doesn't have and official toy besides maybe the Legends figure accurate to his current IDW appearance yet.
Fair point, but I bet if there weren't two other SDCC OP toys they would've included the Cyber Commander OP. Limitations of the mold aside, it's quite IDW in appearance.

From what I was told, Hasbro wanted to get the Renegades Roadblock out somehow so collectors could complete the team. At the time it would be released Retaliation product would be on shelves so they came up with the idea of doing a two in one Roadblock figure. Unfortunately, Wal-Mart wasn't interested.

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895676)
Posted by WreckerJack on July 10th, 2017 @ 5:17pm CDT

Now where is the MTMTE set? I want my Lost Light Crew!

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895677)
Posted by Kurona on July 10th, 2017 @ 5:19pm CDT

WreckerJack wrote:Now where is the MTMTE set? I want my Lost Light Crew!

A Rodimus with a MTMTE-accurate Titan Master face? Rewind made into Lug? Some generic done into Rung?

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895680)
Posted by Optimum Supreme on July 10th, 2017 @ 5:33pm CDT

RAR wrote:OK what did I miss why is Matt Trakker Black ?

Is Julio Lopez, Hondo MacLane, Bruce Sato and heck knows how many other not enough diversity for them ?

Is Miles Mayhem got a sister now instead of Maximus then ?

Congratulations IDW you managed to make me face palm more than I did with you made Prowl a Constructicon

Also Rom seems too small and really should be chromed out.

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895681)
Posted by RAR on July 10th, 2017 @ 5:34pm CDT

Coptur wrote:

I agree with the Jetfire thing but Sun & Acid aren't and haven't been major players in IDW.

I actually like the Visionaries look as he's more toon accurate that and the hologram technology and process is expensive for for toy companies and they look rubbish or fade over time.
All good but until IDW follow in DC and Mattel's book (with the Wally/Wallace Flash & ZodaC/K) they can keep the Matt Trakker.

I don't tend to look at toys in terms of media compliance I just look at the CW Leader Seekers and at Jetfire and Sunstorm/Clone seekers/Acid Storm/ Bitstream / Actionmaster Thundercracker / Redwing etc.. is where I see a possible collection gap that needs filling in.

I was helping a lady at a car bootsale sort her adult son's Visionaries accessories and they all looked perfect - not fading at all - but I have seen some Supernaturals that look very hard to see the holograms on them - they go all dark and hard to make out.
Not had that issue with Visionaries though on either mine or ones I've seen personally. even a really badly age faded one I got once for parts still had a perfect hologram on it and that had been stored somewhere nasty for sure or got a lot of sun exposure.

It is fair I guess to make out that they didn't always draw the staff and chest logos in super detail on the cartoon.

As for the idea of the Micronauts being sold in their own set (which I think they should have been) they'd have been great in a sarcophagus or two.

It might have been nice to figure out if any existing MASK outfits match the look of any of the available Gi Joe moulds - something like Vintage Matt Trakker's Rhino outfit would have been a nice follow up for the Thunderhawk outfit they'd already made - as would a classic style Miles Mayhem. Anyone they had not drastically changed would have been a less controversial inclusion though (if such a thing has happened - and they didn't just randomly change everyone in M.A.S.K.)

If you wanted to do that then surely M.A.S.K. The Next Generation is what they need to be thinking of instead. Strange choice though keep the vintage vehicles and change the people or person instead.
------

Shame Jetfire doesn't have a X-14 Skystriker Deco - I wonder if Toyhax can be arm twisted into doing that with labels ?

--------

Interestingly this page makes a bigger deal of the character nicknames/code names that is usually the case - though they do come up sometimes such as with 'Bruno Mad Dog Sheppard', Lester The Lizard Sludge, 'Chief' or 'Clutch' :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_M ... characters

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_M ... characters

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895684)
Posted by Optimum Supreme on July 10th, 2017 @ 5:53pm CDT

something like Vintage Matt Trakker's Rhino outfit

Heck, go all out and recolor a movie OP as Rhino in place of Takara Jetfire! ;)^

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895722)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 10th, 2017 @ 8:42pm CDT

Lame set with boring Jetfire, trendy diversity-tickbox Trakker, silly looking RoadBURNS, bland Action Man and a Visionaries leader lacking the entire gimmick of the toyline he's from (although the cartoon style replacement of the hologram isn't bad looking it's just not got the same nostalgia level). Also it terrifies me somewhat cos I'd rather IDW not touch Visionaries at all.

I guess ROM Looks cool for fans of the character.

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895730)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on July 10th, 2017 @ 8:53pm CDT

RAR wrote:It might have been nice to figure out if any existing MASK outfits match the look of any of the available Gi Joe moulds - something like Vintage Matt Trakker's Rhino outfit would have been a nice follow up for the Thunderhawk outfit they'd already made

Matt Trakker hasn't worn that outfit yet, as far as I know. He didn't wear it in the Revolution Comic, for sure. (Which given it's a Revolution box set released at a Comic convention, does matter.)

As would a classic style Miles Mayhem.

Unlike the others, Miles doesn't wear body armor, only his mask, so Miles looks exactly the same as he always has (in his blue military uniform).

Anyone they had not drastically changed would have been a less controversial inclusion though (if such a thing has happened - and they didn't just randomly change everyone in M.A.S.K.)

Except for Matt Trakker being African American, everyone looks the way I remember them looking (less '80s, I guess). As far as any other changes (e.g., the absence of Scott Trakker, T-Bob, and over half the adult characters) this is set at M.A.S.K.'s creation, so the crew is small and young - the changes haven't been random, they've been in-keeping with that.

As far as Matt Trakker's race being changed, it really hasn't been relevant in the comics yet, even with his main antagonist being a patronizing old white guy. Even so, I've appreciated the change because besides being the team leader, they've been emphasizing Matt's technical and scientific acumen and passion. African American men in comics seldom get to lead a team for very long, and they're seldom depicted as shy, self-doubting science nerds, so I've appreciated the variety, even if it has been purely an aesthetic change.

If you wanted to do that then surely M.A.S.K. The Next Generation is what they need to be thinking of instead.

The series kicked off with the formation of M.A.S.K. as a program associated with GIJoe using Cybertronian tech and Ore 13. I'm sure IDW didn't want to mess with retconning *another* property into the combined universe (merging GIJoe into Transformers was a feat, I'm sure). And I doubt they wanted to build a new series as a sequel to something that hasn't been around for a very long time.

For perspective, Star Trek (The Original Series) ended in 1969 and Star Trek: The Next Generation began in 1987 - that was an eighteen year gap, but it was filled with syndicated airings and movies. M.A.S.K. ran from 1985 to 1988, and didn't see shelves again until 2016. Three additional Star Trek series lived and died during M.A.S.K.'s absence.

Strange choice though keep the vintage vehicles and change the people or person instead.

Most of the vehicles don't look distinctly vintage - Condor, for example, looks like a generic motorcycle, and Switchblade doesn't look like any sort of real world helicopter at all. Both are basically unchanged from their original versions. The more distinctly vintage style vehicles appear as prototypes used during R&D and training, with some of them (e.g., Trans Am Thunderhawk) sometimes visible under tarps in background shots, and some of them (e.g., Rhino) destroyed in testing. The Thunderhawk Trakker uses in the in the present looks more like a beefed up 2010s Camaro. (Venom's vehicles tend to lean more obviously vintage, though.)

Interestingly this page makes a bigger deal of the character nicknames/code names that is usually the case - though they do come up sometimes such as with 'Bruno Mad Dog Sheppard', Lester The Lizard Sludge, 'Chief' or 'Clutch'

For IDW's part, they've been sticking to the code names pretty hard as part of the tie in with GIJoe, where codenames have been part of the gimmick for decades. That said, their codenames/call-signs/handles come from their masks, which they still call by those names, so that sometimes gets weird. On the other hand, since military style radio lingo has them talking in the third person for clarity during operations anyway, it's usually not that strange.

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895750)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on July 10th, 2017 @ 9:59pm CDT

I will say, just generally, Hasbro missed the boat not getting a new M.A.S.K. toy line out concurrent with Titans Return. If they had created new toys and scaled the mini figs to be Titan Master size... hotcakes man.

Actually, a line of GIJOES like that wouldn't be bad either.

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895777)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 10th, 2017 @ 11:36pm CDT

Burn wrote:Wait ... so ... Road Block who has a bitchin' goatee in the comics, ends up with side burns instead?

Oh that's harsh.

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895805)
Posted by Cmdr. Trailblazer on July 11th, 2017 @ 1:59am CDT

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Lame set with boring Jetfire, trendy diversity-tickbox Trakker, silly looking RoadBURNS, bland Action Man and a Visionaries leader lacking the entire gimmick of the toyline he's from (although the cartoon style replacement of the hologram isn't bad looking it's just not got the same nostalgia level). Also it terrifies me somewhat cos I'd rather IDW not touch Visionaries at all.

I guess ROM Looks cool for fans of the character.

That seems overly harsh. A simple 'I don't think this set looks like something I'd like' woulda sufficed. Which goes for a lot of the negativity. Jeez.

That being said...I do really like the look of this set. Glad to see the re-release of Jetfire, good for fans that missed getting him, though it does feel a tad random a Transformers. Whatever, it's fine. The Micros are a nice touch, too.

Now, damn you Hasbro for making this set too far outta my price range! :michaelbay:

Re: SDCC exclusive Hasbroverse Revolution boxset featuring Transformers, ROM, M.A.S.K., GI Joe, Micronauts and more (1895813)
Posted by RAR on July 11th, 2017 @ 4:10am CDT

I got the impression from watching the original M.A.S.K. that the technology was a combination of input from Matt, Bruce, Buddy & Alex (and Miles).
It seemed like Matt had a lot to do with the MASK Computer, commissioning the Transport & the Mask ; Buddy and Bruce did a lot of the engineering and Alex did a lot of the Computing related work & the development of the headquarters some of the others also likely contributed in some areas too specific to their areas of expertise, with some of the nastier weapons coming from Miles before they fell out.

I would say those I mentioned with the addition of Dusty Hayes, Hondo Maclean & Brad Turner are the "core cast" with Gloria Baker added slightly later though Matt likely knew her personally before hand - she may have even been their Martial Arts trainer.
But it could be argued just as much for many of the other that they had a place in the organisation before they were made official agents and issued vehicles. Julio Lopez for example is reasonably old so he could easily have been Matt's Doctor before he even started M.A.S.K. up. Shame they felt the need to change things just for desire to shoehorn it all into a single Universe as M.A.S.K. quite possibly would have worked better as a period piece anyway. There does seem to be some hints that Matt is recruiting people he knows and trusts after Miles betrayed him, such as 'Chief' I don't know how the hell the teasing ironic way they affectionately call each other Chief and Cowboy would come across these days though.

Click here to view additional comments about this topic at the Energon Pub Forums ...