Stanley Tucci Behind The Scenes Clip for Transformers: The Last Knight

So I just finished watching the movie for the first time. It was bad. Like really bad. Even worse than I had been led to belive. It tall made ROTF look good.

Ironhidensh wrote:So I just finished watching the movie for the first time. It was bad. Like really bad. Even worse than I had been led to belive. It tall made ROTF look good.

Agreed. Yet Mr. Bay warned us right from the go. Explosions and humor.
That actor shouldn't have different roles in the same movie series, I can't believe they did that.

such a complete waste of concept and opportunity.
stupid.

weak sauce

To celebrate the Digital HD home release of Transformers: The Last Knight, which took place on 12 September, Paramount got in touch to share the various extras and exclusives scattered around the internet - with some of the clips (Stonehenge Tucci) already newsed, but all collected in one place here, you can browse through them at your convenience!

The full DVD and BluRay release of the movie will be 26 September, but the extras are available now featuring cast, crew, extras, actors, and stunts. Check them out!

The Last Knight Battle Scene

Special Ops

Stunts

Detroit

In more Transformers: The Last Knight and Hascon news combined, we also have recordings of the major panels featuring the cast of the latest movie in Paramount's live-action universe for the Cybertronians - including producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura, and actors Mark Wahlberg, Isabela Moner, Peter Cullen, and Frank Welker, plus Hasbro CEO Brian Goldner.

The first Transformers The Last Knight panel, during the day on Saturday September 9th, 2017, starred Mark Wahlberg, Isabela Moner, Producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura, and Executive Producer/Hasbro CEO Brian Goldner. The 2nd panel, held later that night during the Transformers VIP event, switched Brian Goldner with legendary Transformers voice actors Peter Cullen (Optimus Prime) and Frank Welker (Megatron). We've collated both together in the clip below, as they discuss the cast, working with director Michael Bay, the choices and realities of working on a project this big, in this scale, and of this relevance to popular culture (despite final results, of course), and the importance and difficulty of creating sequels in a franchise. When Welker and Cullen take their place, on the other hand, we get some more insight into the dynamic between them as actors and their characters since the early stages of their career and a lot of voices seasoning the interview too. Check it out!

noctorro wrote:That actor shouldn't have different roles in the same movie series, I can't believe they did that.

You mean how Stanley Tucci played Joshua Joyce last movie and Merlin in this one? They'd already done that before with Glenn Morshower playing Colonel Sharp (who got killed) in the first movie and then General Morshower in all the sequels minus AOE.

noctorro wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:So I just finished watching the movie for the first time. It was bad. Like really bad. Even worse than I had been led to belive. It tall made ROTF look good.

Agreed. Yet Mr. Bay warned us right from the go. Explosions and humor.
That actor shouldn't have different roles in the same movie series, I can't believe they did that.

I've seen TV series do that. Jeffrey Combs played several roles in Deep Space Nine.

It's absolutely fine as long as you can pull them off convincingly and/or there's an in universe explanation. I had no idea, for instance, that Gwen Cooper in Torchwood was played by the same actress who played Gwenyth in Doctor Who Series 1. Despite the two being in the same universe, having the same very distinct accent, and having similar goddamn names.

Kurona wrote:It's absolutely fine as long as you can pull them off convincingly and/or there's an in universe explanation. I had no idea, for instance, that Gwen Cooper in Torchwood was played by the same actress who played Gwenyth in Doctor Who Series 1. Despite the two being in the same universe, having the same very distinct accent, and having similar goddamn names.

Hehe. The doctor and rose actually comment on that when they see her in tge stilen earth. Or the following one, i forget it's name. Multi spatial duplicity or something. But yeah, i have no problems with it. Doctor who did it all the time. Karen gillian, freema agyman, even colin baker did it. And capaldi played three parts including the doctor and made a pli point of it.

I've seen TV series do that. Jeffrey Combs played several roles in Deep Space Nine.[/quote]

Once even in the same episode

Insurgent wrote:

Kurona wrote:It's absolutely fine as long as you can pull them off convincingly and/or there's an in universe explanation. I had no idea, for instance, that Gwen Cooper in Torchwood was played by the same actress who played Gwenyth in Doctor Who Series 1. Despite the two being in the same universe, having the same very distinct accent, and having similar goddamn names.

Hehe. The doctor and rose actually comment on that when they see her in tge stilen earth. Or the following one, i forget it's name. Multi spatial duplicity or something. But yeah, i have no problems with it. Doctor who did it all the time. Karen gillian, freema agyman, even colin baker did it. And capaldi played three parts including the doctor and made a pli point of it.

I've seen TV series do that. Jeffrey Combs played several roles in Deep Space Nine.

Once even in the same episode

Those too! I will say though, it's very bizarre - but also very heartwarming now I know he was a huge fan of the series - to go back and watch Capaldi in Fires of Pompeii after 4 years of him as The Doctor.

Now, naturally, as I've said; this can be done convincingly - but other times not. So this begs the question since I haven't actually seen TLK; how different was this actor's new role and did he pull it off well enough that you didn't think he was the same guy?

In terms of appearance, they looked nothing alike. The performance, from what I remember, was also fairly distinct. I only knew it was the same actor because I found out beforehand.

He pulled it off. Merlin was drunk. Literally the entire time he's on screen. He voice, hi mannarisms, everything was different from his aoe performance. If i hadn't been told before hand, i woul never have known it was the same guy.

And frankly, Merlin was more fun a character than Joshua was.

Insurgent wrote:He pulled it off. Merlin was drunk. Literally the entire time he's on screen. He voice, hi mannarisms, everything was different from his aoe performance. If i hadn't been told before hand, i woul never have known it was the same guy.

I feel the same.I didnt realize they were the same actor,before looking at the wiki.

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Most memorable part of this movie was the horse doing a cartwheel.

Reports are coming in that the digital copy of TLK has some parts of the movie missing.

Does that mean we can say there are three cuts of this film?

Sabrblade wrote:Reports are coming in that the digital copy of TLK has some parts of the movie missing.

What parts?

Ironhidensh wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Reports are coming in that the digital copy of TLK has some parts of the movie missing.

What parts?

Thus far, the first scene with Wheelie and the scene with the Vatti Transformer.

Minor bits, yes, but there's no real good reason that they should be missing at all.

Thanks to a tip from Paramount themselves today, we've found out that there's a cool contest going on over on the Transformers Movie facebook page! In partnership with Facebook live, the brand team behind the Transformers: The Last Knight page is running a Transformers character tournament where fans that tune in to the livestreams can vote on which characters should proceed onto the next round, or proceed on their way to oblivion!

While the contest only features characters from the live action films, it's still enjoyable to make sure your favorite 'bot gets to the top!
It's run using a bracket system, and voting for the first round for the Autobot side has already ended, but the livestreams for Round 1 on the Decepticon side will begin approximately 16 hours from the time of writing.
See the website for the current bracket here, and make sure to keep an eye on the facebook page, here!
Place your bets on who wins it all down below in the Energon pub forums!

Transformers fans in the UK will be able to own Transformers: The Last Knight soon. We have posted the exclusive trailer below for your viewing pleasure. According to the video description we now know some release dates.

The Last Knight shatters the core myths of the Transformers franchise, and redefines what it means to be a hero. Humans and Transformers are at war, Optimus Prime is gone. The key to saving our future lies buried in the secrets of the past, in the hidden history of Transformers on Earth. Saving our world falls upon the shoulders of an unlikely alliance: Cade Yeager (Mark Wahlberg); Bumblebee; an English Lord (Sir Anthony Hopkins); and an Oxford Professor (Laura Haddock).


Available to Download & Keep - 16th October
Available on DVD, Blu-ray, 3D Blu-ray & 4K UHD - 30th October

The Last Knight shatters the core myths of the Transformers franchise,

That's putting it mildly.

A lot of people who don't like this movie there is a lot of talk about it

dragons wrote:A lot of people who don't like this movie there is a lot of talk about it

It IS ironic.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

dragons wrote:A lot of people who don't like this movie there is a lot of talk about it

It IS ironic.

People know and recognize what's wrong with it.

I gave the film 4\10 and that was being kind. Another movie that features humans doing stuff with a bit of robot action now and then. Another movie where prime spouts 'I'll kill you'. Absolute crap. At least the scenery was nice. The Transformers are simply throw away items to these films.

Collider posted some new concept images from Transformers: The Last Knight. In it is an interesting take on the gladiatorial arena from what possibly is Kaon between both Optimus Prime and Megatron fighting in said area. Which is a change up because Optimus wasn't a gladiator to begin with! The article is worth checking out for the concept art pieces alone, but it offers insight into the special features of the discs too as a refresher.



Click the above image to head on over to Collider and check out their article as well as the accompanying gorgeous concept art created for the fifth installment!

That wouldn't make sense to be a flashback shot since Megs and Prime are both in their newer modes. Yeah, I know, "nothing makes sense in Bayverse" is what SOMEONE is gonna say, but I wonder if they were gonna have Megs and Prime duke it out on Cybertron at some point and that got cut from the script. I could see Megs arranging that with Quintessa because he'd love to put Prime there for a 1 vs 1. Missed opportunity for sure.

Since this is concept art, it seems more likely that the designer just grabbed a couple of random character models as an example.

Tyrannacon wrote:Collider posted some new concept images from Transformers: The Last Knight. In it is an interesting take on the gladiatorial arena from what possibly is Kaon between both Optimus Prime and Megatron fighting in said area. Which is a change up because Optimus wasn't a gladiator to begin with! The article is worth checking out for the concept art pieces alone, but it offers insight into the special features of the discs too as a refresher.



Click the above image to head on over to Collider and check out their article as well as the accompanying gorgeous concept art created for the fifth installment!

My theory is that Optimus would have returned to Cybertron after TF4 and would have been force to fight in a gladiator arena.

Thanks to an article posted on SyFy, we have a bunch of new concept art from Transformers: The Last Knight for you to check out! Among the new art pieces shown off are a Samurai-styled Knight with a wicked spiked sword, another shot of the Arena where previous art showed Optimus and Megatron standing, which was likely a cut section dealing with gladiatorial combat on Cybertron at some point, and some more images of Cybertron and Megatron meeting with TRF. Check out the art below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!

I see the Samurai and all I can think of is Bludgeon.

Budder Prime wrote:I see the Samurai and all I can think of is Bludgeon.

I was thinking older, more beat up Drift, but I can totally see Bludgeon too!

Man, I can't shake the feeling that the "BG Building Concept v004" looks a lot like a sideways, half-buried Quintesson ship. I mean knowing this movie, it's absolutely a coincidence, but an interesting one nonetheless.

That "arena" is part of the interior of the Guardian Knights' ship. That Optimus and Megatron were shown fighting each other there in another art piece suggests that their brief fight on top of the ship in the movie may have originally been set inside the ship instead.

Furio has posted another Concept piece of the Knights this time it's the one that inspired the toy of Steelbane although this look itself never made it into the movie.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZQe0_4FkxN/?taken-by=furio_tedeschi



Since this is the only new thing I'm going to post some of the other Knight's of Iacon concept art.

The leader Knight which inspired the toy of Stormreign who is one half of Leader Dragonstorm, beside being red he doesn't look like this much in the actual movie.


This is one of the "generic" ones with a unused helmet design that seems to have inspired Drgonicus the other half of leader Dragonstorm


Cool helmet guy who basically looks like this in the film besides maybe some minor differences.


Don't think this design was in the film but he looks cool.


Helmet for many knights such as the small green Talisman knight from the beginning of the movie.


A Samurai knight (From Josh Nizzi instead of Furio) interestingly enough it seems like the shoulder armor inspired the red knight's shoulder armor in the movie which is pretty much the only unique thing about him in the movie besides his armor color

This one was one of many rough sketches from Wesley Burt not sure if anything about this is in the final designs but he looks cool and kinda looks like he could of been one of the many other Knights outside the main 12 (Green knight, Skullitron) maybe an Alpha Trion type.


Here is a screenshot of some of the final knights for comparison.

Watching the opening again, i realised the red knight isn't part of dragonstorm. He's still talking to merlin and hands him th staff after dragonstorm is already airborne. Maybe he really is scorn who later was captured by lockdown?

Insurgent wrote:Watching the opening again, i realised the red knight isn't part of dragonstorm. He's still talking to merlin and hands him th staff after dragonstorm is already airborne. Maybe he really is scorn who later was captured by lockdown?

That screenshot from the movie takes place during the modern day and not the past,the guy ain't Scorn.

The Knights are said to be 12 guys and not including green knight who is established to be seperate 3 were killed yet they still become Dragonstorm so I believe that you don't need all 12 to form him especially how they transform into him "ksi" style.

Plus knights of Iacon are not the same knights that The Dinobots and Prime are part of.


I don't see how any one thinks he is Scorn since the only things they share are red armor and even then in different shades their also different heights that's like thinking Canopy is Bumblebee just because their both yellow...oh wait people did think that.

Awesome analysis of the designs, Deadput! That was really cool to read where each design came from and where it went (and/or didn't go) in the movie proper

Insurgent wrote:Watching the opening again, i realised the red knight isn't part of dragonstorm. He's still talking to merlin and hands him th staff after dragonstorm is already airborne. Maybe he really is scorn who later was captured by lockdown?

I mean speaking from a rational point of view, in terms of the intent of the movie itself, he's just a generic character who was never intended to be anyone or ever appear or matter again. Outside of that and especially from a toy design perspective, I can definitely see him inspiring/being inspired by Scorn, particularly the new Voyager toy. Check it (embedding this again for the second time in three posts, sure why not):


Those shoulders seem pretty distinctly Scorn-like to me, I can see where the wide semi-rectangular chest became/came from Scorn's toy(s), the hip-armor is very similar in general design, long pointy crotch-armor, general shape of the calves and the pointy-toed boots (albeit not pointing upward like Scorn's). I could even see where those pointy bits on either side of the helmet's chin could've become Voyager Scorn's weird dumb Kronk chin.

Personally what I think is most likely, is the following: Hasbro wanted to make a toy of the red knight because they thought it'd be somewhat marketable (and let's be honest, if they decided to make multiple Berserker toys but nothing of say, Onslaught, they're not exactly basing their decisions on screentime here). They didn't have an altmode or really anything definite so they noticed the concept art's similarities to Scorn, decided that'd work, slapped some dino kibble on the concept-art guy, gave him a half-melted version of Scorn's head and called it a day. Makes more sense than Scorn getting a Voyager-class toy for literally no reason, especially one that's still red when all the other Dinobot toys were toned-down silvers, browns and blues.

But hey what do I know, I'm just some guy with too much spare time to overthink things and way too many toys

Oh. Didn't realise that was Red Knight in your screen shot. Was on the phone when I looked at that, small screen.


Oh well. Would have been a nice talking point.

How do we know they are two different Knights? What are the Dinobots and Prime from then?


Canopy is yellow? It's like the reverse G1 Constructicons. Haha. I always see them as yellow, and I thought Canopy was green.



Yes, I can totally see Red Knight being a Pre-Dino Scorn. Thank you for putting in words what I was seeing, with the design cues. And we don't know when he got his dino mode. Yes, he is intended to be generic Red Knight and nothing more, but sometimes, it's fun to make theories up about random stuff. After all, why else would we be on a discussion forum?

Insurgent wrote:Yes, I can totally see Red Knight being a Pre-Dino Scorn. Thank you for putting in words what I was seeing, with the design cues. And we don't know when he got his dino mode. Yes, he is intended to be generic Red Knight and nothing more, but sometimes, it's fun to make theories up about random stuff. After all, why else would we be on a discussion forum?

Totally agreed - discussion is the root of all... something. Knowledge? Entertainment? I really should've planned my pithy saying in advance...

(I'm also probably gonna headcanon red-knight-dudeman as Scorn even if it doesn't quite make sense, 'cause I like the idea and hell, the movies themselves don't always make a lotta sense either )

So your saying that Scorn started out as the knight of Iacon leader that formed Dragonstorm then hooked up with Grimlock and became a titan with his own individual dino mode and lost his arm before shrinking down and completely changing armor before going to slumber in the underwater ship with the Iacon knights instead of waking up his comrades then waking up and trying to kill optimus even though he fought with him before?

Not only does this not make sense its impossible in canon.

It does make sense!

That's why we didn't see him in the Junkyard! After he escaped Lockdown's ship, he decided to bugger off and find his knightly bretherin. And knowing where Merlin's tomb was, he went off to investigate and when he got there, formatted himself back to his non dino mode. And went into slumber so he could honour his brothers in arms by staying by their side.


Grimlock never got on with his other knights and didn't care, so stayed behind with Cade because free food. Slug went off to tour the world with Strafe but they had a lovers tiff over the true parentage of the baby dinobots and split up. Slug was making his way back to the Junkyard when the Decepticons attacked. That's why he randomly appeared briefly there, but he didn't know where everyone ran off to, as the town trap was established after they left. So he just went to the junkyard and hung out with Trench for the rest of the film. Strafe heard good things about Isla Nublar so flew off to see what that place was like.



This is why I don't talk much on these forums lately. Everyone seems to be taking this hobby far too seriously. So I'm putting some of the silly fun back in.

became a titan with his own individual dino mode and lost his arm before shrinking down and completely changing armor before going to slumber in the underwater ship with the Iacon knights instead of waking up his comrades then waking up and trying to kill optimus even though he fought with him before?

Size change = mass shifting. It's a thing that happens in this franchise.

Missing arm = nope. Just his dino kibble turned his arm into his tail lance, like BW Megatron. We just never saw him take his lance off in the film.

Slumber = He wanted to honour them and help them protect Merlin. So no, he didn't wake them up.


Optimus = Optimus came back and betrayed them. So yes, he saw that as a betrayal and now tried to kill him. Just like Grimlock fough against him, then with him. People can easily be fighting with someone and then a few years later, fight against them because they see them as betraying them. Especially when Prime turned up and killed knights.

Mass Shifting is something the live-action movies in particular take great pains to avoid, though. That's why the Dinobots are so big in the first place; so as to make it 'feasible' that Optimus and the rest of his team could ride them.

I'd personally say screw that and just roll with the overall silliness of the franchise, but hey, what you gonna do.

AOE destroyed that though with Evasion Mode optimus. Same robot height but flat nose. And Lockdown. Car alt mode, robot mode same height as Optimus. Sure there were some other things the movies weer avoiding that AOE went and did. I remember coming out of the film thinking "Well, all the rules they were trying to avoid, they've just thrown out the window."

TLK completely forgot that AOE strongly implied the Dinobots and Optimus to have been knights, not only ignoring that notion almost entirely but also treating the twelve Guardian Knights as a completely separate organization unaffiliated with the Dinobots.

Deadput wrote:So your saying that Scorn started out as the knight of Iacon leader that formed Dragonstorm then hooked up with Grimlock and became a titan with his own individual dino mode and lost his arm before shrinking down and completely changing armor before going to slumber in the underwater ship with the Iacon knights instead of waking up his comrades then waking up and trying to kill optimus even though he fought with him before?

Pretty much, yep.

It's not like I'm saying it makes perfect sense or anything; heck, it's hardly based on anything aside from a few superficial design similarities and my own sense of fun. I can't speak for Insurgent necessarily, but I'm not proposing a genuine theory, more like having some fun with a very tenuous character connection.

Deadput wrote:Not only does this not make sense its impossible in canon.

Many things are impossible in canon, including but not limited to:

- Bumblebee being unable to speak despite having his voicebox repaired in the first movie (and then subsequently being able to speak later in the film despite having earlier ripped his own voicebox out)
- Starscream's head turning up, intact, 530 miles from the site of his death-by-exploding-head
- The Transformers being created by Quintessa as opposed to the work of the Allspark Cube
- Barricade being alive

And that's just in this movie alone. I think, in light of all this, that we can make some allowances for having a bit of fun.

Oh I assure you my tongue is firmly in cheek. I'm just in a daft mood and want some fun. The initial post was a 'Wouldn't it be fun if' theory, not a full on serious theory. Red Knight not forming Dragonstorm was the only super serious part of my post. As I said, folks have been taking this stuff far too seriously lately.


The fact my rambling ends with Strafe going off to Jurrasic Park should be a giveaway. Hahaha. Anyway, I've made a thread for such sillyness.


Barricade being alive is not an issue. We saw his eyes and feet explode in DOTM, but never saw him die. And his eyes getting shot out makes sense for why now he has 4 eyes. Backup eyes!


Starscream's head turning up miles away isn't an issue. It's how it got fixed. We saw scrap is being scavanged, it's not unreasonable to assume someone recovered it and took it away, and Daytrader aquired it from that person. After all, Sentinel and Megatron's heads were recovered.


Lockdown made comments about the allspark thing. He asked Prime "You think you were born? You were bult! And your creator wants you back."

I just assume Quintessa used the Allspark to create Cybertron and give birth to Transformers. But in the eons since, Quintessa was lost to legend, but the Allspark remaind as that was a physical object and the Transformers started believing they were just born of the Allspark.

And now the Allspark is gone, Quintessa can't rebuild Cybertron properly, which is why it looks like melted cheese stretched between too much toast.

Insurgent wrote:Barricade being alive is not an issue. We saw his eyes and feet explode in DOTM, but never saw him die. And his eyes getting shot out makes sense for why now he has 4 eyes. Backup eyes!

Barricade's always had four eyes, but it could explain why he has two blue eyes in TLK besides being a police light bar homage. Looking at that scene Barricade only gets shot twice so maybe he was only half blind and still had two optics left.