TakaraTomy Transformers Unite Warriors Grand Galvatron In-Hand Pics

Nice, guess the crown really is translucent; just one more thing that'll break once you look at it in-hand

Hellscream9999 wrote:Nice, guess the crown really is translucent; just one more thing that'll break once you look at it in-hand

Oh it'll break, from me hugging it so hard!!

shajaki wrote:Spin the wheel and pic a limb folks! On today's episode, Twitter legend TF Yuki brings us a crispy new in-hand shot of the ghost armed UW-06 Grand Galvatron. This whacky mish-mash combiner consists of Cyclonus, Ghost Starscream, Armada Thrust, Zombie Breakdown, and a Wandering Roller. Take a look below and stay tuned to Seibertron.com: home for the best Galleries and Conversation around!

I hate you TT............translucent looks sooooooo cool but sucks ballz 10 years from now

Hellscream9999 wrote:Nice, guess the crown really is translucent; just one more thing that'll break once you look at it in-hand

I love how we talk about conjecture as if it's fact. Good thing you're not getting this set, just one less thing you get to complain about over and over again

itscramtastic wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Nice, guess the crown really is translucent; just one more thing that'll break once you look at it in-hand

Oh it'll break, from me hugging it so hard!!

HA!

Clear plastic gets a bad wrap. Unless you're a kid banging his toys together it should have a long life.

I don't get the fear of clear plastic. I have 19 to 22 year old Microman toys, like the ones in my sig that are fine. Heck Beast Wars and Beast Machines too. Maybe there is something to be said about mid-west American climate. I've also never had rubber wheels or tank treads dry rot on me.

shajaki wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Nice, guess the crown really is translucent; just one more thing that'll break once you look at it in-hand

Oh it'll break, from me hugging it so hard!!

HA!

Clear plastic gets a bad wrap. Unless you're a kid banging his toys together it should have a long life.

Uhhhhhhhhh, I did not bang my figure (Big Convoy) at all thank you. Of course I purchased him back in 2004 (he was released in 1999) so for a 15 year old toy that was well cared for, his translucent part broke not due to abuse.

Life is full of unknowns I'd grant you that but as a collector on our part, did care for the item to be far from abuse yet it still broke.

The crown part on G G is not so much an issue but that Starscream is.Oh mark my word, that joint in the torso.

steals_your_goats wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Nice, guess the crown really is translucent; just one more thing that'll break once you look at it in-hand

I love how we talk about conjecture as if it's fact. Good thing you're not getting this set, just one less thing you get to complain about over and over again

Hellscream just did a bit of hyperbole. But the breaking is not conjecture, only a matter of time. I'd like for my expensive toys to last and not break at the seams for no apparent reasons.If it breaks apart, it should be due to my dumbness like dropping it on the floor or something.

Cobotron wrote:I don't get the fear of clear plastic. I have 19 to 22 year old Microman toys, like the ones in my sig that are fine. Heck Beast Wars and Beast Machines too. Maybe there is something to be said about mid-west American climate. I've also never had rubber wheels or tank treads dry rot on me.

My rotf demolishers' treads turned green

but this is what fenrir has going: link

fenrir72 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Nice, guess the crown really is translucent; just one more thing that'll break once you look at it in-hand

I love how we talk about conjecture as if it's fact. Good thing you're not getting this set, just one less thing you get to complain about over and over again

Hellscream just did a bit of hyperbole. But the breaking is not conjecture, only a matter of time. I'd like for my expensive toys to last and not break at the seams for no apparent reasons.If it breaks apart, it should be due to my dumbness like dropping it on the floor or something.

I suppose I was more taking a jab at all the complaining that he's been doing lately about his stuff breaking while the rest of us are sitting here with minor if not no problems what so ever.

Cobotron wrote:I don't get the fear of clear plastic. I have 19 to 22 year old Microman toys, like the ones in my sig that are fine. Heck Beast Wars and Beast Machines too. Maybe there is something to be said about mid-west American climate. I've also never had rubber wheels or tank treads dry rot on me.

I agree sir, the only thing I've ever had happen is one or two white figures yellowing. And MP05 rusting..other than that, no issues with the things!

steals_your_goats wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Nice, guess the crown really is translucent; just one more thing that'll break once you look at it in-hand

I love how we talk about conjecture as if it's fact. Good thing you're not getting this set, just one less thing you get to complain about over and over again

Hellscream just did a bit of hyperbole. But the breaking is not conjecture, only a matter of time. I'd like for my expensive toys to last and not break at the seams for no apparent reasons.If it breaks apart, it should be due to my dumbness like dropping it on the floor or something.

I suppose I was more taking a jab at all the complaining that he's been doing lately about his stuff breaking while the rest of us are sitting here with minor if not no problems what so ever.

My solution to the clear plastic Starscream, I got a nice Offroad that's not being used as a limb. He'll be a nice replacement for a right arm while Starscream goes on the shelf next to Unicron.

Cobstacle Course wrote:I don't get the fear of clear plastic. I have 19 to 22 year old Microman toys, like the ones in my sig that are fine. Heck Beast Wars and Beast Machines too. Maybe there is something to be said about mid-west American climate. I've also never had rubber wheels or tank treads dry rot on me.

To be perfectly honest the only defected toys I've ever had was BM Ultra Jetstorm chrome flaking, tire rot on RID Prime, and (sorry Cobs) my Microman Kicker blowing out his knee for no apparent reason.

steals_your_goats wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Nice, guess the crown really is translucent; just one more thing that'll break once you look at it in-hand

I love how we talk about conjecture as if it's fact. Good thing you're not getting this set, just one less thing you get to complain about over and over again

Hellscream just did a bit of hyperbole. But the breaking is not conjecture, only a matter of time. I'd like for my expensive toys to last and not break at the seams for no apparent reasons.If it breaks apart, it should be due to my dumbness like dropping it on the floor or something.

I suppose I was more taking a jab at all the complaining that he's been doing lately about his stuff breaking while the rest of us are sitting here with minor if not no problems what so ever.

Well lucky f#cking you

But you're right, I was out of line about saying that after paying $18 for figures made out of plastic so cheap, it tore itself apart by sitting there...

Randomhero wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Nice, guess the crown really is translucent; just one more thing that'll break once you look at it in-hand

I love how we talk about conjecture as if it's fact. Good thing you're not getting this set, just one less thing you get to complain about over and over again

Hellscream just did a bit of hyperbole. But the breaking is not conjecture, only a matter of time. I'd like for my expensive toys to last and not break at the seams for no apparent reasons.If it breaks apart, it should be due to my dumbness like dropping it on the floor or something.

I suppose I was more taking a jab at all the complaining that he's been doing lately about his stuff breaking while the rest of us are sitting here with minor if not no problems what so ever.

My solution to the clear plastic Starscream, I got a nice Offroad that's not being used as a limb. He'll be a nice replacement for a right arm while Starscream goes on the shelf next to Unicron.

Nice offroad and his twin brother breakdown, or you could put breakdown with breakdown

steals_your_goats wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Nice, guess the crown really is translucent; just one more thing that'll break once you look at it in-hand

I love how we talk about conjecture as if it's fact. Good thing you're not getting this set, just one less thing you get to complain about over and over again

Hellscream just did a bit of hyperbole. But the breaking is not conjecture, only a matter of time. I'd like for my expensive toys to last and not break at the seams for no apparent reasons.If it breaks apart, it should be due to my dumbness like dropping it on the floor or something.

I suppose I was more taking a jab at all the complaining that he's been doing lately about his stuff breaking while the rest of us are sitting here with minor if not no problems what so ever.

I didn't care much at all about the translucent breakage issue (it does look cool and all especially for the Ghost effect) and just heard of it a few years back. But it did happen to me . In as much as I don't like to rain on anyone's parade ( I do really want this figure.......arrgh!) By all means get it folks. Just make sure you inspect the SS part from time to time.

If only this GG isn't this hard @ss expensive ( extra Y 8000 )but a mass release (ordering from intermediaries also tucks in extra), it would be less painful if it breaks.....due to my carelessness and not because of the materials used.

* I wish some product out there is available that strengthens plastic of this type.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Nice, guess the crown really is translucent; just one more thing that'll break once you look at it in-hand

I love how we talk about conjecture as if it's fact. Good thing you're not getting this set, just one less thing you get to complain about over and over again

Hellscream just did a bit of hyperbole. But the breaking is not conjecture, only a matter of time. I'd like for my expensive toys to last and not break at the seams for no apparent reasons.If it breaks apart, it should be due to my dumbness like dropping it on the floor or something.

I suppose I was more taking a jab at all the complaining that he's been doing lately about his stuff breaking while the rest of us are sitting here with minor if not no problems what so ever.

Well lucky f#cking you

But you're right, I was out of line about saying that after paying $18 for figures made out of plastic so cheap, it tore itself apart by sitting there...

I see nothing wrong with the plastic and isolated incidents do not make it a cheap plastic or make this line a "scam". Things just don't break for no reason there's always a factor that causes it. My blackjack broke but I know that it was my fault, I'm not sitting here damming Hasbro for my mistake.

shajaki wrote:

Cobstacle Course wrote:I don't get the fear of clear plastic. I have 19 to 22 year old Microman toys, like the ones in my sig that are fine. Heck Beast Wars and Beast Machines too. Maybe there is something to be said about mid-west American climate. I've also never had rubber wheels or tank treads dry rot on me.

To be perfectly honest the only defected toys I've ever had was BM Ultra Jetstorm chrome flaking, tire rot on RID Prime, and (sorry Cobs) my Microman Kicker blowing out his knee for no apparent reason.

RID Prime tire rot goes hand in hand with that figure (Me too, broke in the middle so I sold him for the JP version which is still whole)

steals_your_goats wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Nice, guess the crown really is translucent; just one more thing that'll break once you look at it in-hand

I love how we talk about conjecture as if it's fact. Good thing you're not getting this set, just one less thing you get to complain about over and over again

Hellscream just did a bit of hyperbole. But the breaking is not conjecture, only a matter of time. I'd like for my expensive toys to last and not break at the seams for no apparent reasons.If it breaks apart, it should be due to my dumbness like dropping it on the floor or something.

I suppose I was more taking a jab at all the complaining that he's been doing lately about his stuff breaking while the rest of us are sitting here with minor if not no problems what so ever.

Well lucky f#cking you

But you're right, I was out of line about saying that after paying $18 for figures made out of plastic so cheap, it tore itself apart by sitting there...

I see nothing wrong with the plastic and isolated incidents do not make it a cheap plastic or make this line a "scam". Things just don't break for no reason there's always a factor that causes it. My blackjack broke but I know that it was my fault, I'm not sitting here damming Hasbro for my mistake.

Nice that you got my point. If a fig breaks, it should be because of my fault. It is easier to swallow . Wishing that figs today were like the ones made by Fisher Price in the 80s. Them American made plastic figures/vehicles really could take all sorts of punishment.

Again folks. Sorry if I rained on your parade. Get the set. Only make sure to inspect him from time to time ( I might even take the plunge too despite my recent heart plastic break as TT really knows how to pimp their figures).

Will Grand Galvatron be sold as a set or will any of the limb bots be able to be purchased separately? I'd like too buy four ghost SS's to go on Sky Lynx.

MGrotusque wrote:Will the Grand Galvatron be sold as a set or will any of the limb bots be able to be purchased separately? I'd like too buy four ghost SS's to go on Sky Lynx.

It's going to be a box set

That Grand Galvatron is irrational tempting to me. I don't even know why. It's just a damn sexy set of crazy random figures of awesomeness.

I'll back up that clear plastic fragile issue. Not a TF mind you, but I have some transparent stikfas figures that just started to crack at some of the ball joints. Made little sense to me as they just sat on my desk and got posed a bit now and them.

Good to know it's a thing to watch out for. Especially with all the painted clear plastic being used nowadays.

itscramtastic wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Nice, guess the crown really is translucent; just one more thing that'll break once you look at it in-hand

Oh it'll break, from me hugging it so hard!!

Oh from me too. I dont know how I will get this set since my country's economy and geographic location are both working against me on this, but I will someday and I will definitely give it a nice big hug. He looks so beautiful!

fenrir72 wrote:

shajaki wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Nice, guess the crown really is translucent; just one more thing that'll break once you look at it in-hand

Oh it'll break, from me hugging it so hard!!

HA!

Clear plastic gets a bad wrap. Unless you're a kid banging his toys together it should have a long life.

Uhhhhhhhhh, I did not bang my figure (Big Convoy) at all thank you. Of course I purchased him back in 2004 (he was released in 1999) so for a 15 year old toy that was well cared for, his translucent part broke not due to abuse.
.

Big Convoy?, so was it his chest? I am trying to think of where there is clear plastic on him and thats the only area i can think about.

I havent had much problem with TFs. It's more the recent ones that broke for me or had quality issues. And BW TM Megatron of course.

As for clear plastic though I havent had an issue so far. I just bought Takara's JRX which is full of clear plastic unlike the Hasbro Railracer version which has none and even though it is a 15 year old toy, it is still perfect with no sign of any strain or damage.

steals_your_goats wrote:

MGrotusque wrote:Will the Grand Galvatron be sold as a set or will any of the limb bots be able to be purchased separately? I'd like too buy four ghost SS's to go on Sky Lynx.

It's going to be a box set

However, the fact that there now exists a Seeker head sculpt can only mean good things. No way Hastak is going to pass on the money machine that is the endless Seeker repaint catalog.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Nice, guess the crown really is translucent; just one more thing that'll break once you look at it in-hand

I love how we talk about conjecture as if it's fact. Good thing you're not getting this set, just one less thing you get to complain about over and over again

Hellscream just did a bit of hyperbole. But the breaking is not conjecture, only a matter of time. I'd like for my expensive toys to last and not break at the seams for no apparent reasons.If it breaks apart, it should be due to my dumbness like dropping it on the floor or something.

I suppose I was more taking a jab at all the complaining that he's been doing lately about his stuff breaking while the rest of us are sitting here with minor if not no problems what so ever.

My solution to the clear plastic Starscream, I got a nice Offroad that's not being used as a limb. He'll be a nice replacement for a right arm while Starscream goes on the shelf next to Unicron.

Nice offroad and his twin brother breakdown, or you could put breakdown with breakdown

Then you get the G2 set and have breakdown, breakdown, breakdown and Offroad. Granted your display might explode from sheer amazingness but that's a risk worth taking.

shajaki wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

MGrotusque wrote:Will the Grand Galvatron be sold as a set or will any of the limb bots be able to be purchased separately? I'd like too buy four ghost SS's to go on Sky Lynx.

It's going to be a box set

However, the fact that there now exists a Seeker head sculpt can only mean good things. No way Hastak is going to pass on the money machine that is the endless Seeker repaint catalog.

I kinda hope they skip the three main seekers and do more obscure ones instead. I know it won't happen but at least we'd get some character diversity. Plus I don't need to get another set of the same three guys.

william-james88 wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Nice, guess the crown really is translucent; just one more thing that'll break once you look at it in-hand

Oh it'll break, from me hugging it so hard!!

Oh from me too. I dont know how I will get this set since my country's economy and geographic location are both working against me on this, but I will someday and I will definitely give it a nice big hug. He looks so beautiful!

fenrir72 wrote:

shajaki wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Nice, guess the crown really is translucent; just one more thing that'll break once you look at it in-hand

Oh it'll break, from me hugging it so hard!!

HA!

Clear plastic gets a bad wrap. Unless you're a kid banging his toys together it should have a long life.

Uhhhhhhhhh, I did not bang my figure (Big Convoy) at all thank you. Of course I purchased him back in 2004 (he was released in 1999) so for a 15 year old toy that was well cared for, his translucent part broke not due to abuse.
.

Big Convoy?, so was it his chest? I am trying to think of where there is clear plastic on him and thats the only area i can think about.

I havent had much problem with TFs. It's more the recent ones that broke for me or had quality issues. And BW TM Megatron of course.

As for clear plastic though I havent had an issue so far. I just bought Takara's JRX which is full of clear plastic unlike the Hasbro Railracer version which has none and even though it is a 15 year old toy, it is still perfect with no sign of any strain or damage.

The left shoulder socket that connects to his shoulder ball joint (It is translucent plastic). It broke just like that. No abuse, nothing. Just Standing looking awesome in display. And nope, his right arm was the one holding his buster gun so no stress at all on the part that broke.

shajaki wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

MGrotusque wrote:Will the Grand Galvatron be sold as a set or will any of the limb bots be able to be purchased separately? I'd like too buy four ghost SS's to go on Sky Lynx.

It's going to be a box set

However, the fact that there now exists a Seeker head sculpt can only mean good things. No way Hastak is going to pass on the money machine that is the endless Seeker repaint catalog.

You know, I thought that, but that was a year ago, and here we are without them, so, now, I'm not so sure

shajaki wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

MGrotusque wrote:Will the Grand Galvatron be sold as a set or will any of the limb bots be able to be purchased separately? I'd like too buy four ghost SS's to go on Sky Lynx.

It's going to be a box set

However, the fact that there now exists a Seeker head sculpt can only mean good things. No way Hastak is going to pass on the money machine that is the endless Seeker repaint catalog.

You're talking about Hb here. The guys who green lit Platinum Laser Prime! One of the most awesomesauce mold for Scourge turned into a shelf warming mess of an overpriced re-issue.

They also passed on G1 Bumble toon accurate head and iPod head mold Optimus Prime. Both would have been a bonanza if released locally. and shelf warmed the recent Astrotrain/Blitzwing Platinum release. The ones they got right were the Platinum Seekers, Blaster/Perceptor and Trypticon. The Insecticons would have been a success too if not for the weird price range.

Cobotron wrote:I don't get the fear of clear plastic. I have 19 to 22 year old Microman toys, like the ones in my sig that are fine. Heck Beast Wars and Beast Machines too. Maybe there is something to be said about mid-west American climate. I've also never had rubber wheels or tank treads dry rot on me.

I'm with you about the clear plastic, I've had very few have issues ... at least no moreso than regular plastic tabs or joints breaking on regular ol' plastic Transformers toys.

However, I'm definitely a plastic tires instead of rubber tires guy because the cracked tire problem is frustrating. If it hasn't happened to you yet, just consider yourself lucky though I'd be willing to be you've got a few cracked tires in your collection and you just haven't noticed yet ... especially if you live in the Midwest. Unless you constantly lubricate rubber tires on your Transformers, your G1, RID or Masterpiece Convoy tires will crack eventually, the same reason why O-Rings dry out with G.I. Joe figures and Masters of the Universe figures suffer their notorious crotch rot that most vintage MOTU figures suffer from eventually.

Randomhero wrote:Then you get the G2 set and have breakdown, breakdown, breakdown and Offroad. Granted your display might explode from sheer amazingness but that's a risk worth taking.

Yo dawg...

carytheone wrote:

Randomhero wrote:Then you get the G2 set and have breakdown, breakdown, breakdown and Offroad. Granted your display might explode from sheer amazingness but that's a risk worth taking.

Yo dawg...

Don't forget about united breakdown, huh, wonder what a Galvatron(us) comprised of 4 breakdowns would be called? And would he randomly fall apart due to the name of all of his limbs

Hellscream9999 wrote:

carytheone wrote:

Randomhero wrote:Then you get the G2 set and have breakdown, breakdown, breakdown and Offroad. Granted your display might explode from sheer amazingness but that's a risk worth taking.

Yo dawg...

Don't forget about united breakdown, huh, wonder what a Galvatron(us) comprised of 4 breakdowns would be called?

Dear Lord! I think I now know what consists of the Planet of Junk set!

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

carytheone wrote:

Randomhero wrote:Then you get the G2 set and have breakdown, breakdown, breakdown and Offroad. Granted your display might explode from sheer amazingness but that's a risk worth taking.

Yo dawg...

Don't forget about united breakdown, huh, wonder what a Galvatron(us) comprised of 4 breakdowns would be called?

Dear Lord! I think I now know what consists of the Planet of Junk set!

ooh, and I just remembered, you could even glue ravage, the victorion repaint, sunstreaker, and uw sunstreaker together, and then affix the breakdown limbs to the congealed mass of repaintitude to get Will's arch-nemesis

Seibertron wrote:

Cobotron wrote:I don't get the fear of clear plastic. I have 19 to 22 year old Microman toys, like the ones in my sig that are fine. Heck Beast Wars and Beast Machines too. Maybe there is something to be said about mid-west American climate. I've also never had rubber wheels or tank treads dry rot on me.

I'm with you about the clear plastic, I've had very few have issues ... at least no moreso than regular plastic tabs or joints breaking on regular ol' plastic Transformers toys.

However, I'm definitely a plastic tires instead of rubber tires guy because the cracked tire problem is frustrating. If it hasn't happened to you yet, just consider yourself lucky though I'd be willing to be you've got a few cracked tires in your collection and you just haven't noticed yet ... especially if you live in the Midwest. Unless you constantly lubricate rubber tires on your Transformers, your G1, RID or Masterpiece Convoy tires will crack eventually, the same reason why O-Rings dry out with G.I. Joe figures and Masters of the Universe figures suffer their notorious crotch rot that most vintage MOTU figures suffer from eventually.

Well thanks boss. Now you got me all paranoid.
I would dig out RID Prime right now if he wasn't buried at the back of a shelf.
and ya, I have had plenty of Joes snap in half. That's an easy fix. Rubber tires not so much. It makes sense though. Rubber is an organic compound, so eventually it will break down. Looks like I have some inspecting to do.

And Fenrir, to be fare, my Black Big Convoy broke too, but not in the same place, and not clear plastic. that toy is just fragile all the way around.

I don't doubt the the clear plastic thing is a thing, but it would be interesting to know if climate has anything to do with it. My brother has had problems with clear plastic and rubber. He lives in California. And I know tropical climates reek havoc on all kinds of materials, so I could see where Fen lives being a factor.

It's all science man.

Cobotron wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

Cobotron wrote:I don't get the fear of clear plastic. I have 19 to 22 year old Microman toys, like the ones in my sig that are fine. Heck Beast Wars and Beast Machines too. Maybe there is something to be said about mid-west American climate. I've also never had rubber wheels or tank treads dry rot on me.

I'm with you about the clear plastic, I've had very few have issues ... at least no moreso than regular plastic tabs or joints breaking on regular ol' plastic Transformers toys.

However, I'm definitely a plastic tires instead of rubber tires guy because the cracked tire problem is frustrating. If it hasn't happened to you yet, just consider yourself lucky though I'd be willing to be you've got a few cracked tires in your collection and you just haven't noticed yet ... especially if you live in the Midwest. Unless you constantly lubricate rubber tires on your Transformers, your G1, RID or Masterpiece Convoy tires will crack eventually, the same reason why O-Rings dry out with G.I. Joe figures and Masters of the Universe figures suffer their notorious crotch rot that most vintage MOTU figures suffer from eventually.

Well thanks boss. Now you got me all paranoid.
I would dig out RID Prime right now if he wasn't buried at the back of a shelf.
and ya, I have had plenty of Joes snap in half. That's an easy fix. Rubber tires not so much. It makes sense though. Rubber is an organic compound, so eventually it will break down. Looks like I have some inspecting to do.

And Fenrir, to be fare, my Black Big Convoy broke too, but not in the same place, and not clear plastic. that toy is just fragile all the way around.

I don't doubt the the clear plastic thing is a thing, but it would be interesting to know if climate has anything to do with it. My brother has had problems with clear plastic and rubber. He lives in California. And I know tropical climates reek havoc on all kinds of materials, so I could see where Fen lives being a factor.

It's all science man.

I'm assigned in a tropical country mi amigo. That is a big factor I'd grant you that. But as stated in my other thread, the room where they are stored is under A/C at least 4 hours a day. Would you believe that I just transformed my Big Convoy just once since 2004 and left him in uber pose mode ever since? I was half expecting the "buster gun/trunk would be the first to give in ( I used Armor On on it) and the part in question ( left shoulder) never was exposed to added stress?

My first RID I purchased was in Orchard Rd Singapore in 2002. Not in the local TRU but a specialty shop as the former didn't carry them (Hb version Fire Optimus Prime/UM). It didn't take 4 months for the front wheels of Optimus to crack.I later sold both for the Takara version back in 2009.......the Takara versions are still uncracked would you believe?)

So this is a risk for all of us collectors, especially if assigned in the tropics.

fenrir72 wrote:My first RID I purchased was in Orchard Rd Singapore in 2002. Not in the local TRU but a specialty shop as the former didn't carry them (Hb version Fire Optimus Prime/UM).

I didnt know about that specialty shop. I always preferred that odd minimall near chinatown wth all those second hand collector shops all stacked close together. That's where I got the best deal on RID Air Atack Optimus Primal (for 30$ Singaporian). Good times

william-james88 wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:My first RID I purchased was in Orchard Rd Singapore in 2002. Not in the local TRU but a specialty shop as the former didn't carry them (Hb version Fire Optimus Prime/UM).

I didnt know about that specialty shop. I always preferred that odd minimall near chinatown wth all those second hand collector shops all stacked close together. That's where I got the best deal on RID Air Atack Optimus Primal (for 30$ Singaporian). Good times

And just below it was a naughty adult shop with all the ero toys

Man, this is a tough one for me...I really want two of the five figures, but have no interest in the other three. Can't justify the price of the entire set for two deluxe bots...booo.

you can always post which characters you're interested in... maybe another fan can split an order.

fenrir72 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

Cobotron wrote:I don't get the fear of clear plastic. I have 19 to 22 year old Microman toys, like the ones in my sig that are fine. Heck Beast Wars and Beast Machines too. Maybe there is something to be said about mid-west American climate. I've also never had rubber wheels or tank treads dry rot on me.

I'm with you about the clear plastic, I've had very few have issues ... at least no moreso than regular plastic tabs or joints breaking on regular ol' plastic Transformers toys.

However, I'm definitely a plastic tires instead of rubber tires guy because the cracked tire problem is frustrating. If it hasn't happened to you yet, just consider yourself lucky though I'd be willing to be you've got a few cracked tires in your collection and you just haven't noticed yet ... especially if you live in the Midwest. Unless you constantly lubricate rubber tires on your Transformers, your G1, RID or Masterpiece Convoy tires will crack eventually, the same reason why O-Rings dry out with G.I. Joe figures and Masters of the Universe figures suffer their notorious crotch rot that most vintage MOTU figures suffer from eventually.

Well thanks boss. Now you got me all paranoid.
I would dig out RID Prime right now if he wasn't buried at the back of a shelf.
and ya, I have had plenty of Joes snap in half. That's an easy fix. Rubber tires not so much. It makes sense though. Rubber is an organic compound, so eventually it will break down. Looks like I have some inspecting to do.

And Fenrir, to be fare, my Black Big Convoy broke too, but not in the same place, and not clear plastic. that toy is just fragile all the way around.

I don't doubt the the clear plastic thing is a thing, but it would be interesting to know if climate has anything to do with it. My brother has had problems with clear plastic and rubber. He lives in California. And I know tropical climates reek havoc on all kinds of materials, so I could see where Fen lives being a factor.

It's all science man.

I'm assigned in a tropical country mi amigo. That is a big factor I'd grant you that. But as stated in my other thread, the room where they are stored is under A/C at least 4 hours a day. Would you believe that I just transformed my Big Convoy just once since 2004 and left him in uber pose mode ever since? I was half expecting the "buster gun/trunk would be the first to give in ( I used Armor On on it) and the part in question ( left shoulder) never was exposed to added stress?

My first RID I purchased was in Orchard Rd Singapore in 2002. Not in the local TRU but a specialty shop as the former didn't carry them (Hb version Fire Optimus Prime/UM). It didn't take 4 months for the front wheels of Optimus to crack.I later sold both for the Takara version back in 2009.......the Takara versions are still uncracked would you believe?)

So this is a risk for all of us collectors, especially if assigned in the tropics.

Well, leaving a figure in a pose, for a long time can be detrimental to joints; happened to most of my Bionicle collection, most of the ball sockets have cracked or snapped as a result of not being exercised. While not a strict comparison, they are both ball-socket joint systems, so lends some insight to the issue.

I will say that ball diameter may have something to do with it... Big convoys shoulders have large ball joints, and dragstrips are rather large, but the 'standard' size and below never give me an issue - as even now, cyb cannonball has squeaky ball joints, but wreckloose doesn't

Hellscream9999 wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

Cobotron wrote:I don't get the fear of clear plastic. I have 19 to 22 year old Microman toys, like the ones in my sig that are fine. Heck Beast Wars and Beast Machines too. Maybe there is something to be said about mid-west American climate. I've also never had rubber wheels or tank treads dry rot on me.

I'm with you about the clear plastic, I've had very few have issues ... at least no moreso than regular plastic tabs or joints breaking on regular ol' plastic Transformers toys.

However, I'm definitely a plastic tires instead of rubber tires guy because the cracked tire problem is frustrating. If it hasn't happened to you yet, just consider yourself lucky though I'd be willing to be you've got a few cracked tires in your collection and you just haven't noticed yet ... especially if you live in the Midwest. Unless you constantly lubricate rubber tires on your Transformers, your G1, RID or Masterpiece Convoy tires will crack eventually, the same reason why O-Rings dry out with G.I. Joe figures and Masters of the Universe figures suffer their notorious crotch rot that most vintage MOTU figures suffer from eventually.

Well thanks boss. Now you got me all paranoid.
I would dig out RID Prime right now if he wasn't buried at the back of a shelf.
and ya, I have had plenty of Joes snap in half. That's an easy fix. Rubber tires not so much. It makes sense though. Rubber is an organic compound, so eventually it will break down. Looks like I have some inspecting to do.

And Fenrir, to be fare, my Black Big Convoy broke too, but not in the same place, and not clear plastic. that toy is just fragile all the way around.

I don't doubt the the clear plastic thing is a thing, but it would be interesting to know if climate has anything to do with it. My brother has had problems with clear plastic and rubber. He lives in California. And I know tropical climates reek havoc on all kinds of materials, so I could see where Fen lives being a factor.

It's all science man.

I'm assigned in a tropical country mi amigo. That is a big factor I'd grant you that. But as stated in my other thread, the room where they are stored is under A/C at least 4 hours a day. Would you believe that I just transformed my Big Convoy just once since 2004 and left him in uber pose mode ever since? I was half expecting the "buster gun/trunk would be the first to give in ( I used Armor On on it) and the part in question ( left shoulder) never was exposed to added stress?

My first RID I purchased was in Orchard Rd Singapore in 2002. Not in the local TRU but a specialty shop as the former didn't carry them (Hb version Fire Optimus Prime/UM). It didn't take 4 months for the front wheels of Optimus to crack.I later sold both for the Takara version back in 2009.......the Takara versions are still uncracked would you believe?)

So this is a risk for all of us collectors, especially if assigned in the tropics.

Well, leaving a figure in a pose, for a long time can be detrimental to joints; happened to most of my Bionicle collection, most of the ball sockets have cracked or snapped as a result of not being exercised. While not a strict comparison, they are both ball-socket joint systems, so lends some insight to the issue.

I will say that ball diameter may have something to do with it... Big convoys shoulders have large ball joints, and dragstrips are rather large, but the 'standard' size and below never give me an issue - as even now, cyb cannonball has squeaky ball joints, but wreckloose doesn't

The pose on the left arm was the neutral arms down no stress. But I think you hit the bulls eye about the ball joint. It is hard@ss big.

Now for the extremity mold used the UW/CW line. Its good that the actual 'bot head is different from the socket head unlike the original combiners. UW Groove is hopefully safe but the torso part where the connection to the shoulder socket. It is a future worrisome issue a few years from now (for the Starscream mold). It's the translucent part that is clamped on the "shoulder/socket part".

On if this set is worth the purchase......I'd say yes, but the traumatized part of me is what's holding back the order now as he is sooooooooo good looking with the new retools and recolors (d@mn you Starscream!

Starscream is always the cause of dissent among the 'cons

This thread is depressing. It's made me re-evaluate if I want to continue collecting toys, especially after a broken tab on Scrapper and just picking up a sealed Acid Storm only to open it up and find misassembled hips.

TFs have always had a limited lifetime IRL. Poorly designed joints have been an issue since G1. Hello, Metroplex! How many guns with broken pegs? You have to really care for a die cast figure to make sure the paint doesn't come off. Stressed joints and chipped paint are part of being a collector. It will happen to every figure eventually. And I haven't even gotten to GPS.

fenrir72 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:I'm assigned in a tropical country mi amigo. That is a big factor I'd grant you that. But as stated in my other thread, the room where they are stored is under A/C at least 4 hours a day. Would you believe that I just transformed my Big Convoy just once since 2004 and left him in uber pose mode ever since? I was half expecting the "buster gun/trunk would be the first to give in ( I used Armor On on it) and the part in question ( left shoulder) never was exposed to added stress?

My first RID I purchased was in Orchard Rd Singapore in 2002. Not in the local TRU but a specialty shop as the former didn't carry them (Hb version Fire Optimus Prime/UM). It didn't take 4 months for the front wheels of Optimus to crack.I later sold both for the Takara version back in 2009.......the Takara versions are still uncracked would you believe?)

So this is a risk for all of us collectors, especially if assigned in the tropics.

Well, leaving a figure in a pose, for a long time can be detrimental to joints; happened to most of my Bionicle collection, most of the ball sockets have cracked or snapped as a result of not being exercised. While not a strict comparison, they are both ball-socket joint systems, so lends some insight to the issue.

I will say that ball diameter may have something to do with it... Big convoys shoulders have large ball joints, and dragstrips are rather large, but the 'standard' size and below never give me an issue - as even now, cyb cannonball has squeaky ball joints, but wreckloose doesn't

The pose on the left arm was the neutral arms down no stress. But I think you hit the bulls eye about the ball joint. It is hard@ss big.

Now for the extremity mold used the UW/CW line. Its good that the actual 'bot head is different from the socket head unlike the original combiners. UW Groove is hopefully safe but the torso part where the connection to the shoulder socket. It is a future worrisome issue a few years from now (for the Starscream mold). It's the translucent part that is clamped on the "shoulder/socket part".

On if this set is worth the purchase......I'd say yes, but the traumatized part of me is what's holding back the order now as he is sooooooooo good looking with the new retools and recolors (d@mn you Starscream!

Starscream is always the cause of dissent among the 'cons

Yeah, for whatever reason, 'standard' and smaller ball joints are fine, heck, my bw figures are still good (last I checked ) but once you get to about the size of the bionicle ball joint - actually they seem approximate to dragstrips shoulders - the seem to go bad after a while, whether they were used or not - rook could be another one to look out for

But beyond anything else, I would have thought that large ball-socket joints would be prone to stress since the plastic is larger/thicker/denser than that of smaller ball-joints, and would thus be prone to stress - especially if you removed it; perhaps cracking is the stress skipping the middle phase

kurthy wrote:This thread is depressing. It's made me re-evaluate if I want to continue collecting toys, especially after a broken tab on Scrapper and just picking up a sealed Acid Storm only to open it up and find misassembled hips.

TFs have always had a limited lifetime IRL. Poorly designed joints have been an issue since G1. Hello, Metroplex! How many guns with broken pegs? You have to really care for a die cast figure to make sure the paint doesn't come off. Stressed joints and chipped paint are part of being a collector. It will happen to every figure eventually. And I haven't even gotten to GPS.

Yeah, you should probably switch to Lego's then, no heartache there

kurthy wrote:This thread is depressing. It's made me re-evaluate if I want to continue collecting toys, especially after a broken tab on Scrapper and just picking up a sealed Acid Storm only to open it up and find misassembled hips.

TFs have always had a limited lifetime IRL. Poorly designed joints have been an issue since G1. Hello, Metroplex! How many guns with broken pegs? You have to really care for a die cast figure to make sure the paint doesn't come off. Stressed joints and chipped paint are part of being a collector. It will happen to every figure eventually. And I haven't even gotten to GPS.

We learn a new development each day. Nothing lasts forever. The trouble is that when the damage is caused by GPS and translucentous breakousmyheartis syndrome. I think these two phenomena are twins separated by birth.And there is no "American Restorations" for TF figures

I can confirm that clear plastic is pure evil. Most Japanese figure stands are made of the stuff and they just love to break. And don't get me started on the Legends Abominus box-set, which is made almost entirely of clear plastic (Sinnertwin is permanently in "thunder thigh mode" after his rotating thigh panels snapped and had to be glued in place).

Looks like Takara's getting in on the toy news bandwagon - https://twitter.com/TFYUKI/status/685652739544584192

またしても、あっと言う間に2016年の一週目が終わりました。今年も魅力的な新製品アイテムが目白押しなので、よろしくお願いします。月末発売のホビー誌等でもイロイロ最新情報が発表出来るかな?!

Unite Warriors Bruticus!

Blast Off looks to be a new mold, and Vorter (Vortex) appears to have FOUR rotor blades!

Fellow Siebertronians, courtesy of TFYuki, we get our first look at Unite Warriors Bruticus by way of this silhouette, and, confirming what many have long-suspected, through it we get a first-look at UW Blast-off. And, as his fore-bearer UW Groove, Blast-off, too, seems to be getting the UW treatment of receiving a G1 accurate mold in the form of a shuttle. Not only that, but it appears that Vortex too is receiving some remolding in the form of a 4 rotor prop.

Have a look at the image mirrored below, and let us know what you think in the comments. Are you excited for UW Bruticus now?