TFC Toys Neck Breaker In-Package Images with Heavy Labor Hip Fix

Looks pretty darn good-better than I expected. I'm so close to pulling the trigger on these it's not even funny.

...and the visor for Devastator!

I'm glad we're one figure closer to the set, but THRILLED by how responsive TFClub has been regarding the design flaws and defects. For the price we're paying, these figures should be close to flawless upon arrival. It's heartening to see the company is doing what they can to make things right.

As for Mad Blender, I need to get some shots of him in "Energon" poses, armed to the teeth. That dude is so awesome, I want a 2nd just to keep him in individual bot mode!

I agree, Necro...alot of people bashing on TFC on the whole "it costs so much should be QC free from the beginning blah blah"...but with the level of articulation and detail I would be suspicious if there WAS nothing wrong...but they have done an excellent job putting out fixes for thier shortcomings...

Already ordered and one more to go!

Well, it SHOULD have been problem free from the get-go ... but I'm definately satisfied by the fixes. I think TFC knows it's reputation would have been tanked had they simply left things as they were.

Man that hip fix is going to be a pain to change out..... I hope they have good instructions on how to do it. I also hope they have replacement plugs for the screw holes.

looks awesome can't wait to have the copmplete set
and tfc: thank you for being such a responsive company that looks after it's buyers

I have the first 4 and I have to say they are awesome. There is however one MAJOR flaw that I have seen NOBODY post or notice. It is the hole that the post go into on the 2 arm pieces of Hercules.

Now I know they fit in nicely and kind of tight to get in, BUT if you notice the actual hole should have a free moving "ratcheting"? piece that kind of takes the post in, and then actually turns inside that hole. Well It DOESNT! It actually just has to "grind" against the plastic on the inside of that hole. And the edges of the post are not that large so its not gonna take much to get it to "round off". So after some time its obviously going to "round off" like a screw tip does etc. So Im telling you all now, you better make sure you DO NOT play with Hercs arms too much or it could "round off" that post that fits in the arm holes!!

Anyone hear anything about this or notice what i am talking about?? Its especially concerning due to his size and weight. And I dont see them being able to "correct" this without coming out with entirely new toys. The legs post are the same as well. But your NOT going to be turning his legs like that much amnyway.

DevastaTTor wrote:Looks pretty darn good-better than I expected. I'm so close to pulling the trigger on these it's not even funny.

So far its a really cool piece except for the arm hole problems I mentioned in my last post!! NOTHING is worth the $600+ price tag, BUT if you want a big, badass Devastator and in the CORRECT size he should be. I believe this is it!!

Pleased we're getting the hip fix sooner rather than later, though I wish we were getting the final leg before the final arm; going to try to wait and get my final four pieces all at once (only have Structor and Dr. Crunk Crank thus far).

As for Neckbreaker, he's probably my least favorite of the crew, but he's still pretty nice.

So far i only found one flaw in the four figures i got. Dr. Crank is missing paint on his right leg. Somehow they forgot to paint the silver detail on his right thigh. Kinda stupid that they didn't notice it as it is clearly visible in the packaging.

TFC has been great about fixin' their F ups...so when they gonna fix that F'ed up black chest? Man, that looks like crap with the others!

bfett88 wrote:Man that hip fix is going to be a pain to change out..... I hope they have good instructions on how to do it. I also hope they have replacement plugs for the screw holes.

Hoping that this can be done without having to take the whole figure apart like I've seen in a couple of the "fix" videos prior to the replacement parts. I didn't play with the hips of mine after hearing everything I did, but I have the four parts connected and he's good so far. It is a shame for as much as we are all spending on this set that we're having to do this.

What about the red gun pieces not fitting together either..?

If I cant fix the damn thing easy, Long Haul will be coming to Botcon with me and Ill have an expert fix him even if I have to pay a few bucks.

Is the guy talking about the arm posts claims confirmed ???

Rated X wrote:If I cant fix the damn thing easy, Long Haul will be coming to Botcon with me and Ill have an expert fix him even if I have to pay a few bucks.

Is the guy talking about the arm posts claims confirmed ???

It won't be that difficult to implement the fix. I you own a screwdriver you're good. I've had mine completely disassembled, if you don't want to do it yourself bring it to BotCon and look me up. I'd fix him up for you at no charge.

As for the connector port issue brought up by Cybershark, it has the potential to happen. I don't know that anyone has reported having and issue with it, and god knows I follow the hell out of this project on multiple forums. I noticed how stiff those joints are as soon as I attached all of them together (I have two Exgravers and two Structors) and decided the best way to repose him is to simply detach the limbs and just reattach them in whatever position you want. Would they ever round off to the point of wearing out? Time will tell. Should I have to detach and reattach them every time I want to repose him? Probably not. I don't move my figures around that much and it doesn't bother me to pop them off and snap them back on if I want to move his arms so it's no big deal to me.

El Duque wrote:

Rated X wrote:If I cant fix the damn thing easy, Long Haul will be coming to Botcon with me and Ill have an expert fix him even if I have to pay a few bucks.

Is the guy talking about the arm posts claims confirmed ???

It won't be that difficult to implement the fix. I you own a screwdriver you're good. I've had mine completely disassembled, if you don't want to do it yourself bring it to BotCon and look me up. I'd fix him up for you at no charge.

As for the connector port issue brought up by Cybershark, it has the potential to happen. I don't know that anyone has reported having and issue with it, and god knows I follow the hell out of this project on multiple forums. I noticed how stiff those joints are as soon as I attached all of them together (I have two Exgravers and two Structors) and decided the best way to repose him is to simply detach the limbs and just reattach them in whatever position you want. Would they ever round off to the point of wearing out? Time will tell. Should I have to detach and reattach them every time I want to repose him? Probably not. I don't move my figures around that much and it doesn't bother me to pop them off and snap them back on if I want to move his arms so it's no big deal to me.

Thanks El Duque ! I appreciate you helping me out. Ill see you in Dallas. I was also thinking the same thing about pulling out the posts instead of twisting them to move the arms. I got that idea from popping of a beer cap that didnt have the twist off feature.

DevastaTTor wrote:Looks pretty darn good-better than I expected. I'm so close to pulling the trigger on these it's not even funny.

Me too. In fact, I already would have if I hadn't had to pay for BotCon this month :\ Considering that they're all almost out already, I'll probably have to just save up and buy them all at once.

Glad we're getting a hip fix, there. I too wish we were getting Mixmaster first, but ah well. Bonecrusher was the first and my favorite COnstructicon. I might get a second to leave in robot mode.

Site sponsor Robotkingdom have updated their facebook page with a closer look at the hip ratchet fix for TFC Toys Heavy Labor that comes packed with their latest release Neck Breaker. The repair doesn't look too complicated but does require disassembling the figure. Take a look below.

those are some nasty ass nails, CUT EM!

So what was wrong with Heavy Labor's hips and how does this fix them? Sorry, I haven't really been paying much attention to these Hercules other looking at new pics and going, "Ooo! Me likey!"

UltraPrimal wrote:So what was wrong with Heavy Labor's hips and how does this fix them? Sorry, I haven't really been paying much attention to these Hercules other looking at new pics and going, "Ooo! Me likey!"

The hip joint ratchet that allows for forward and backward leg movement wasn't designed properly and strips the teeth off the ratchet cogs. This fix should correct this issue.

Not complicated ??? I dunno about that statement. These pictures dont do justice. A youtube tutorial in english please...

I guess I lucked out because My Longhauls hip seems fine. If this fix allows you to pose it figure skater style, then it seems like a waste IMO ....

Looks easy enough. Five minutes if that to swap those parts out.

Mine seems fine also, but I am glad they have addressed the issue in case a problem does come up. I'm not to keen about taking apart a 100 dollar figure though.

Gonna watch for a really thorough walkthrough video before I do anything of that caliber.

LiKwid wrote:I guess I lucked out because My Longhauls hip seems fine. If this fix allows you to pose it figure skater style, then it seems like a waste IMO ....

You aren't lucky I'm afraid, it's not a hit or miss QC issue all Heavy Labor's have faulty hips. Yours either haven't failed yet or they have and you just don't realize it. It also depends on how much you've moved the legs forward and backward.

Im going to wait until my figures hips fail before I do this, I dont mess with my stuff to much so fingers crossed it will survive.

Thumbs up to TFC for sending out the fix. Though they would have a lot of angry customers if they hadnt.

This is precisely why I have no problem giving my cash to TFC, after sales care. They could easily have done nothing to fix issues but instead are giving us replacement parts at no extra cost to us. Will Maketoys offer the same service should their toys break, which judging by how hollow they look wouldn't surprise me. Also, pictures like this:


are exactly the reason I love Hercules, it is so posable and articulated that it is not just a display piece. This thing can be played with. I wonder if Giant can stand on one foot perfectly balanced.

Agreed. My Exgraver was missing the purple piece that connects the hand the arm. I emailed them and have asked for my address to post out the part. It hasn't arrived yet but Im sure it will.

Trikeboy wrote:I wonder if Giant can stand on one foot perfectly balanced.

Well I don't know about if it can once all 6 parts are combined, but I have mine displayed right now combined with only the four parts we have now and he stands just fine with only one foot . . . So I'm betting that the full version won't have any problems with those crazy poses.

Warrant wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:I wonder if Giant can stand on one foot perfectly balanced.

Well I don't know about if it can once all 6 parts are combined, but I have mine displayed right now combined with only the four parts we have now and he stands just fine with only one foot . . . So I'm betting that the full version won't have any problems with those crazy poses.

How'd you get four parts of Giant? I haven't even seen preorders for any of them yet.

(I kid, I kid, I presume you meant the four released parts of Hercules....)

MINDVVIPE wrote:those are some nasty ass nails, CUT EM!

Ahahah, I was thinkin the same thing when I seen these pics,lmao

I'll probably just hold onto mine till I have an issue.

I had him apart once to do the leg straightening, and he's easy to disassemble.

MINDVVIPE wrote:those are some nasty ass nails, CUT EM!

How do you know the dude doesn't play classical guitar.

omega666 wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:those are some nasty ass nails, CUT EM!

How do you know the dude doesn't play classical guitar.

I can finger pick without ghetto witch nails.

MINDVVIPE wrote:

omega666 wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:those are some nasty ass nails, CUT EM!

How do you know the dude doesn't play classical guitar.

I can finger pick without ghetto witch nails.

I think he uses those nails for a different kind of picking...

Rated X wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:

omega666 wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:those are some nasty ass nails, CUT EM!

How do you know the dude doesn't play classical guitar.

I can finger pick without ghetto witch nails.

I think he uses those nails for a different kind of picking...

You mean insurance companies? Man, it's hard to pick insurance companies nowadays. I'm not surprised his nails grew to nasty ass proportions with how long it takes. >_>

Rated X wrote:Not complicated ??? I dunno about that statement. These pictures dont do justice. A youtube tutorial in english please...

Tutorial: Take the screws out in the couple spots shown in the RK photos, replace the hip, then put the screws back in. I'm far from what you'd call handy and I was easily able to figure out what was going on when I took mine apart. It's pretty obvious once it's in front of you. Honestly, your only potential for messing up is stripping the screws or losing something. To avoid that, take note. First, use a nice screwdriver or two. (There are two sizes of screws you're dealing with. I'd probably use a different size screwdriver for each.) If your screwdriver tip is getting chewed up or is too big, or too small, it has the potential to strip your screws. So...don't use an old, shitty screwdriver. If you don't already have one, I'd probably take advantage of these few days you're waiting for NB to arrive and pick up a small screwdriver set. It's also possible the one included with the iGear Kup head would work, but I don't have it in front of me to confirm. Second, do this work on a nice clean, open workspace...one that if you drop something you can easily see where it goes. Other than that, just take 'er apart and put 'er back together. Simple as that.

You can't say that they don't make up for their mistakes. The after sales care is great and seems like a fairly easy fix.

As for the guys nails, remember these guys are based in the far east where for cultural reasons men do have longer nails. For them it's not unusual and shows a certain level of cultural insensitivity with some of these comments.

Hmm, seems simple enough... but Murphy's Law and all.

Neurie wrote:As for the guys nails, remember these guys are based in the far east where for cultural reasons men do have longer nails. For them it's not unusual and shows a certain level of cultural insensitivity with some of these comments.

So i'm culturaly insensitive. I'm also asian myself, so you can all bite it.

Why are we arguing about fingernails when we have sweet upgraded robot crotches to celebrate?

Can't imagine it'd be that hard to swap-out, but I'd like some highly detailed instructions just to be safe. Was starting to worry that the last two figures would be released before the fix was ready. Many thanks to TFC for sorting it out sooner rather than later.

Glad to have the fix, wish it wasn't necessary.

I think it was a smart move on the company who created hercules,to include the fixed hip piece inside another wave figure. because lets face it some are probably gonna be buying the entire set to combine into hercules.

I think it's a smart move because it saves the 3rd party hercules company money in shipping fees of shipping out a small hip replacement part by itself. it also saves the 3rd party hercules company time & hassel looking thru older orders & shipping out the hip piece by itself.

ofcause this news is awful for those who only had plans/money to buy that singular figure. because theirs no way for them to get the hip replacement piece. un-less they email the 3rd party company & ask for the hip replacemnt part get shipped to them by itself. However since some are buying from bbts,tfsource,captured prey,etc.. it might be difficult to prove you bought the item to the 3rd party hercules company. I suspose you might be able to show a sales receipt proof from the site you bought the item. or ask the site to ask for the item for you. all this ofcause will be difficult & a headache to get the hip replacement part by itself.

TigerMegatron wrote:I think it was a smart move on the company who created hercules,to include the fixed hip piece inside another wave figure. because lets face it some are probably gonna be buying the entire set to combine into hercules.

Some?

I think most people will, you'd be crazy not to at those prices for a single figure.

You are right, it makes good sense. They dont want to annoy their customer base. Lets face it, they are relying on Transformer fans for the majority of their sales so it makes sense to keep us sweet for their future projects.

Awesome, haven't had any problems with mine. Will wait untill it breaks and he can't walk properly

Man, that Devastator looks good, can't wait but I will. Want to know about possible quality issues with Neckbreaker and Mad Blender.

Last 2, soon they shall be complete.