Toy Fair 2012 Coverage - Fall of Cybertron Figures

oooookay then!

First thoughts:

I've been saying "I don't need another Jazz" but damn, I want another Jazz. Yes please, sir!

Shockwave is good. Bought.

FOC is a prequel to Energon, the proof is in the pudding and Optimus ate it all! Now I really do wish they'd just rereleased the WFC one. Oh well, at least one toy I can skip.

Bruticus - Looking much nicer here in combined form. Not entirely sold on these, very different colours. The lime green on Onslaught is a bit strange, but I do like his base colour. Blast Off's new colour scheme isn't winning me over, but I wasn't a huge fan of the first look we got either. Shame, as it looks like a nice mold. Vortex looks better with no obvious gold/yellow on him. He's still very red, but at least he looks evil now. Brawl looks good, as does Swindle, but maybe a bit too bright a yellow?

Now these are nice!

Jazz looks awesome. I just hope those aren't fake tires on his feet.

Shockwave is perfect, probably the closest to his character model out of all the WFC/FOC toys. I wonder if his cannon has to be held or can be attached to his forearm?

Optimus is Optimus. A Fist with wheels.

Bruticus seems to be in prototype stages? That may explain the zonky colors for Vortex, because none of them are painted properly yet. Also, his gun is massive and silly, and makes him look really lanky.

all of them are nice. except prime. i dont like the CGI modle and i dont like the toy. but sadly i am buying just to complete the line. hope we get some FOC insecticons....
and FOC bruticus will be displayed as the individual robots. not combined because i dont like the combined form enough. jazz is awesome, i love me a new jazz, and im getting 3 shockwaves tops.

Wow, man. That Jazz is friggin' sweet!

I'm liking that Shockwave too. I didn't realize there was a Shockwave (or Jazz!) toy upcoming for this line, so these are great surprises.


I'll definitely buy that Bruticus, but gahhhdamn does he look clunky.

FansProject Bruticus is still the heavy weight champ!

Hmmmmmm.

Shockwave is the only one with any appeal to me, if I must be honest.
I'll wait for finished painted pictures of Bruticus to decide on the five-set.

But nice job on the photos, as usual!

Alrighty!

Jazz - Looking awesome. They even got the wheels in his feet! I already have RTS Jazz, but I might pick him up anyways.

Shockwave - I've been wanting him since WFC, and they've delievered. He's perfect. Bought on sight.

Prime - Easy pass.

Bruticus - Dear Primus those arms hang low. His hand on Vortex is down at his knee! Unless they can compact more, the combined form is an a pass. Might still pick up Swindle and Brawl though.

When are these coming out, because I might just have to break into Hasbro tonight and grab Shockwave.

Shockwave has Animated Lockdown wrists....


......Please let it be a case of mistransformation...... Please.......

That Shockwave is easily the best individual deluxe of the bunch. Not sure it's as good as WFC Megatron's deluxe, but it'll look great commanding the other Decepticons! I can finally retire my Energon Shockblast and use this as my new current Shockwave figure!

Jazz in an easy pass for me. The colours just doesnt appeal to me.

Shockie is a must-buy. He looks awesome .

Optimus...I really really want to like this guy cause he looks like WFC version armored up and I think it's a nice concept but...He looks fat...The feet is too pointy(I hope there's a way to push it back just like the WFC ver)...I will reserve my judgement until I see him in-hand. Till then he stays on my list.

Bruticus...I'm sold ! I just hope they're all release in the same wave so I dont have to worry missing 1 or 2 figures of them @_@.

Cant wait for the Prime toys coverage . Keep it coming guys !

That Jazz is very appealing. The others? Not so much. That Optimus looks way too simple, especially compared to WFC Prime. And no Megatron or Grimlock? Bruticus and Shockwave are OK, might get the Shockwave if it impresses me in-hand. The Combaticons' art looked much better than the actual figures.

I just noticed that it looks like Shockwave's gun in robot mode integrates right into the alt mode (rather than sit on top with a peg or something...). That's cool!

Yeah, maybe it's a lighting thing, but those colors just scream "G2 Bruticus".

And it's weirding me out, because I had the G2 Combaticons back in '94, and used them to represent the pre-Earth Combaticons, because that was the only way I could rationalize the nutty colors. I mean, I was sold on this Bruticus the moment I saw those leaked Game Informer pics, but this is somehow just...eerie.

Hoping the final product looks a bit different too. Could it be that Blackout has permanently stolen Vortex's color scheme? The curse of Energon indeed.

shockwave = awesome
optimus prime = good
bruticus = looks nice
jazz = great. except for the FAKE wheels on his feet

chubi316 wrote:shockwave = awesome
optimus prime = good
bruticus = looks nice
jazz = great. except for the FAKE wheels on his feet

Fake or not, the wheel-feet are accurate to his game model.

Gearslide wrote:Jazz looks awesome. I just hope those aren't fake tires on his feet.

I think they are. You can see the front wheels on the sides of his chest and the rear wheels are obviously on his arms.

good point. the robot and alternate mode is game accurate

Combined Bruticus will never grace my shelves .

Wouldnt mind seeing a retool of Jazz into Breakdown.

A pass on Prime, but everything else here is a definite buy. FOC Jazz looks sweet. Cant wait for this line!

these are like cyberverse size. depressing

griftimus prime wrote:these are like cyberverse size. depressing

They're Deluxes....

griftimus prime wrote:these are like cyberverse size. depressing

Umm...no?

They are definitely deluxe class. Too much detail and a pose-ability to be cyberverse or scout.

Or they're the greatest Cyberverse figures ever.

I just hope they are in scale with the WFC figures.

I knew there was a reason I never knuckled under and bought Energon Shockblast! This guys looks great.

Bruticus looks much better here than in the promo shots. But ... I don't think he'll replace FP's take on the Energon repaint. Still, I may buy him just to have.

These guys all look pretty darn awesome. I'm excited for this like <3

Bruticus looks a little odd with the mash of colors but from the single form images we saw a few days ago I'd still buy them in a heart beat, even if I don't use them as a combined entity (though I probably will)

Where is Grimlock? Seriously?

How small are the hands on Bruticus

Whoa, Shockwave is flat-out amazing! He and the Combaticons (who's colors here, I imagine, don't reflect the final product's) are so bought.

Autobot Genocide wrote:How small are the hands on Bruticus

It depends on how big your hands are.

THAT JAZZ AND SHOCKWAVE... HOLY S**T...

*ahem* As for Bruticus and Optimus.

no way that in package prime is a deluxe

Jazz is whatever.

Shockwave is dope. I just hope the wings can be folded down so he can be Classics Shockwave.

Bruticus looks like he is about to fall apart. Not looking so great, but at least Hasbro tried. I may wait for the Takara version to see if they get the colors right and display them as individual bots.

griftimus prime wrote:no way that in package prime is a deluxe

He's the same size as one of Bruticus's lower leg, which is just one of the combined cons. We already know Brut is made up of Deluxe's, so that scaling pretty much says deluxe.

These are Deluxes, but they are smaller. Another guy brought a WFC Deluxe Megatron for comparison and these are smaller, but these are the new Deluxes.

Oh my wallet,how she weeps...

MUST...EARN...MORE...CAAASSSSHHHH...The almighty Primus demands my purchases

lol @ in-package Optimus' fist being upside-down. XD

New bruticus colors = *shrug* They still need to tame brawl's green, is my main concern, hahaha, the rest I couldn't care less about.

Shockwave's altmode looks excellent. Botmode is hard to see due to lighting (I hate how dark it appears to be there :/), but silhouette looks amazing.

Jazz looks pretty good. a few nitpicks, like the huge joint on his "door" that goes up in bot mode and sort of, kind of, halfway covers up the wheels in the chest. edit: other nitpick, I don't like the probable hole that may be on top of alt mode for the sake of sticking the gun there. eww.

Optimus looks okay. I'm not fond of the in game model, but this has sold me on the alt mode. I'll buy him if I have spare cash at the time, for alt mode. and I still need to pick up wfc optimus, who looks nicer to me....

Wait... all cobaticons in 1 wave? What if Onslaught is purposely short-packed, and we get 3x Brawl

Thats kinda a bad idea, im sure brawl or vortex would be the hardest to find, cause, well it's a tank and a helicopter. Kids love it.

gavinfuzzy wrote:Wait... all cobaticons in 1 wave? What if Onslaught is purposely short-packed, and we get 3x Brawl

Thats kinda a bad idea, im sure brawl or vortex would be the hardest to find, cause, well it's a tank and a helicopter. Kids love it.

Order a case. I'm going to guess they'll be packed 1 each, with some combination of Prime/Jazz/Shockwave filling out the rest of the case.

Jazz is beyond freaking sweet!

Combaticons are as good as bought, with the thought that a 3rd party will fix Onslaught.
I like the individual robot modes, and I want to support Hasbro's foray back into actual combiners.

Onslaught needs to be a voyager though.

Shockwave looks great. I wish he were a voyager, but other than that, excellent. He'll look good with Prime and Megsy from that line.

With Hasbro's recent love of all characters in all size classes, we could see versions of these guys in voyager.

New Prime, well. He might want to switch to low carb Energon. I'll stick with my titanium WFC version, thanks.

I'll get Shockwave and repaint him to look like how I had him in WFC.

Black/White

The more I see of bruticus the less appealing he is. Not sure if it's just bad transformation/combinations or what, but it looks so lackluster, not to mention, lopsided. Will probably buy them just in case of 3rd party upgrades. Jazz and Shockwave look amazing, hopefully some things are fixed though. Prime looks uh.. too bulky? I remember the devs of the game talking about how prime got beefier during development but it's a bit too much in toy form. It's a cybertronian form, should be slick and agile or sharp and menacing, he just looks boxy and fat.

shockwave is awesome, jazz is cool, prime is terrible and the combaticos alone arent bad but bruticus is garbage. Please dont be $15 each be the normal $10 like deluxes are suppose to be.

Hmm. Jazz and Shockwave are definite buys. Maybe Prime, but I do think the WFC mold is better.

I like the design for Bruticus, but what is up with those colors? He looks very G2. I wonder if these are just test shot colors or something. The wheels on his shoulders are the same blue as the rest of Onslaught.

Keep in mind, Bruticus might be an unfinished prototype, hence the colors.

Sabrblade wrote:Keep in mind, Bruticus might be an unfinished prototype, hence the colors.

Yeah, that's what I'm hoping.

Jazz: Definite buy for me. I loved WFC and Jazz has always been a personal favorite of mine. Also the figure does look really good, very accurate to the game model. The only bit that really bugs me is the fake wheels, I mean, there was really no way to avoid that? Might just be that I'm still miffed over the eight-wheeled weaponizer Prime Bumblebee. I do wish the game model was a little more G1 though, specifically the wheels being on his shoulders instead of his forearms and something about the head seems off to me.

Shockwave: Hands down must buy. Best of the FoC we've seen so far I think. I especially like the apparent integration of his weapon into his alt mode. The only thing that worries me are the legs, they look a bit flimsy compared to his upper body, much like WfC Bumblebee. Also has anyone else noticed Has/Tak cutting back on the poseablity again, specifically in the wrists and feet?

Optimus Prime: Like many I prefer the WfC model to this new, bulkier, boxier version. It seems like they're pushing the "big and totally a truck" a little too much. Also the transformation looks to be abusively simple, as opposed to the WfC toy's interesting complexities (I love the little moving bits for the shoulders). Really on the fence for this one. Oh, and the gun looks stupid.

Bruticus: The Combaticons look pretty good on their own, and I will likely get them for that reason alone. Though Hasbro deciding on a good color scheme would really help. As for the combined form... it looks pretty bad to me. The biggest problems seem to be Onslaught's lack of mass and pair of horribly designed arms. The awkwardly spaced shoulder connections combined with the outright weirdly long and joined arms basically ensure that I will never have this set combined. The lack of a proper chest plate/crest and how outright hollow Onslaught's combiner form looks from behind certainly don't help the situation.

As a side note I hope that if these figures are indeed of the new, smaller 'Deluxe' scale, the difference is negligible enough so as not to cause issues displaying these alongside my WfC figures. I suppose at least it can't be worse that WfC Bumbleebee vs Optimus Prime.

I must admit I was hoping for a G2 Bruticus repaint down the road, but this ain't it. Wow, was a black light hidden somewhere overhead? The colors from the magazine images were better. Did Hasbro say anything about these colors and what will be the final color scheme? Anyway, I hope Bruticus can be positioned and posed better in hand. Definite purchase, whatever color it may be.

Jazz isn't as good as I was hoping, but it still looks great. I hope that bright white makes it to the final product. Definite purchase.

Shockwave. Nice. Skinny legs aside, definite purchase.

Optimus Prime...unless there is a removable Matrix in that chest, definite pass. WFC version is much better.

Okay so SW gun will be interchangeable between arms or not? It would be great to have his cannon on the correct arm just like his G1 fig. Unless the idea was based on DOTM SW then oh well, but other than that he looks awesome!

Nemesis Destron wrote:Okay so SW gun will be interchangeable between arms or not? It would be great to have his cannon on the correct arm just like his G1 fig. Unless the idea was based on DOTM SW then oh well, but other than that he looks awesome!

From what I've deducted by letting a team of monkeys research the pictures we've obtained from Seibertron, I'd think his gun is interchangeable. Another clue to this is the fact that a couple screenshots we've received show him with two hands instead of one hand an a Death-Star-of-a-hand-cannon-that-reminds-me-of-a-Scatter-Blaster-from-WFC.

Not perfect, but then what is, and I'll still end up buying a case of each so what's the point in quibbling. Sold.