25th Anniversary Optimus Prime Gallery And Review

I wasn't so sure about all the complaints about the coloring(Pinkimus Prime) until I saw the comparison photos...

E-gads!!!!

What was hasbro thinking?

Just saw the gallery. Wow! I know Hasbro has been slipping in the QC department but can Hasbro really slip up that bad? Pink Prime? That just made me loose interest in the whole franchise. Maybe I'll just stick with Takara.

ShGarland_1383 wrote:

PorQPine wrote:Despite the appropriateness of this Prime for the 25th Anninversary year, personally, I think Reissues in general are getting old, and they take up time and money better spent of developing new molds. They are too expensive(remember what Hasbro TRU Reissues were priced at? No wonder they clogged shelves for 2 yrs.), and overproduced, and I see it happening all over again with this one.

Reissues themselves I don't mind so much. As is the case with the upcoming Cyclonus, I'd be as happy with a new mold as with a reissue (and I've been wanting headmaster/targetmaster figures for a while, so it wouldn't be fair to bitch one way or the other anyway, yes?). It isn't the fact that it's a reissue its that it sounds like Hasbro's gonna screw this one up, which isn't good because we expect better from them.

I'm not saying that it isn't logical to make these, the Battle Convoy mold is one of the most awesome toys of the 20th Century, and deserves to be put in many a museum. But, as an older collector with already numerous Reissues of this figure, it's becoming a wash.

While I agree with the "Don't like it, don't buy it." philosophy, I just hope that this is the only Reissue in the line, or, if they insist on doing them, give us figures that we haven't had yet, i.e. Headmasters, Powermasters and the like.

And, anyone who says that Hasbro doesn't care about the fans simply isn't paying attention, or will never be satisfied. Do I absolutely love everything that Hasbro does? No. But I'm aware enough to know a big fat "Thank You!" when I see it.

Just a question... Does he already have the stickers on him when you take him out of the box? Or do you have to do that yourself?

Ryan, you might just have an odd one out.

I looked through all the galleries and I have to say I really like the new colouring. I actually own 4 primes (G1, classics-voyager, movie-leader, MP-4) but would consider buying this... depending on price... I live in australia so the pricetag is probably going to be HUGE!

I also own Ultra Magnus (G1 and classics-voyager) and have considered picking up the pepsi prime that came out a year or 2 ago... but wouldn't want to pick up every re-issue or re-release... what's the point? Especially if nothing has changed.

Also if I do see this around I would definately consider picking it up for my nephew... he's only 2 and a bit now but this would be a cracker set for him in a year or 2.

It Is Him wrote:

thedistinctroom wrote:And regarding Transformers Wiki: IT RULES!

I second this emotion.

Yeah, TF wiki can be a great resource for the entire TF mythos.

As for you diosoth, my mother taught me to think before I speak. You should do the same.

So $70 + tax for what is basically TRU edition Prime (which I sold a few months ago on E-Bay) with a new paint job (arguably worse) and a few extras... no thanks. I'll stick with my Encore Prime.

EDIT: Is it just me or does the red on the 25th anniversary Prime look like a lighter version of the red that was on the Movie edition Masterpiece Prime??

*reads whole thread, looks at Ryan's excellent gallery, crosses 25th Prime off Christmas list, adds Encore Prime*

Seibertron is right about this one. This reissue is awful, and the price tag definitely does NOT account for quality or pack-ins. The Toys r' us reissue from 02' was better than this toy. Which I believe retailed for $39.99. Theres no way the pack-ins make up that difference.
The voice box by the way, which does feature Cullen, is just his raw voice re-reading a couple of old phrases. There isn't even any of the G1 robotic voice distortion.
I may be alone in my thinking here, but I would have appreciated some upgrades to the original mold. Maybe fix the leg joints, new head sculpt, and if they're so set on accuracy; How about an actual toon accurate color scheme? White thighs, smokestacks,fuel tanks, and grill and bumper. At the minimum blue eyes and a tinted blue windshield.
The collectors who want an original Prime, or close reissue have a ton to choose from, most of which at a better or equal price. They barely did anything to this toy to call it a "special" edition.

whats with hasbor making primes with the smallsmokestacks primes loko like that look like uterly crap first master piece, then this any other preims with smallesmokestacks we should know about?

doesnt matter big or small the stacks are i still wont get him.

The really should have called this thing the "Coda Remote", maybe painted it gold.

Different doesn't always mean bad. Deep red suits Optimus Prime better, but I'll still be getting the Pinkimus deco. It'll make my collection more unique.

Thanks Seibertron.

I may be able to bring a little light to the issue with the color seeing as I am a polymer engineer and deal with this type of thing from time to time.... First off, the trailer from encore appears to have a metallic quality to it, this colorant added into the polymer will create a swirling effect if the mold is not designed properly due to turbulence in the mold.. which this is prevelant in this design from the thin wall sections and 90* corners. When you begin to add this type of colorant it is quite a bit more costly than say.. the flat gray that they seemed to have used for this 25th version. So I have to think it is purely a cost cutting move, maybe a little bit based on swirling and QA. The pink cab.. well that is bad, but the more vibrant a color I.E. encore primes cab.. the more that colorant will cost as well, so getting away with a lighter shade or perhaps a smaller ratio of colorant vs. virgin polymer also cuts costs. I'm not saying it's ok, or maybe this was just a rougue prime that got out, heck I'm just happy I have my encore version...

I'm guessung I'll get the NEw Yaers Convoy set for a second time since I sold mine back in 2002.

Never liked the US reissues of G1 in the first place..

Now as for this sub-par Prime. It really breaks my heart to see it
so badly done, you'd think for the 25th anniversary edition they would have taken more care with it.

I have been really wary of getting TF's lately. I can deal with the returning of the $10 or $20 ones but when you pay that much I expect better.

I was really looking forward to this. It saddens me so much to see what it is really like.

returnofplex wrote:Seibertron is right about this one. This reissue is awful, and the price tag definitely does NOT account for quality or pack-ins. The Toys r' us reissue from 02' was better than this toy. Which I believe retailed for $39.99. Theres no way the pack-ins make up that difference.
The voice box by the way, which does feature Cullen, is just his raw voice re-reading a couple of old phrases. There isn't even any of the G1 robotic voice distortion.
I may be alone in my thinking here, but I would have appreciated some upgrades to the original mold. Maybe fix the leg joints, new head sculpt, and if they're so set on accuracy; How about an actual toon accurate color scheme? White thighs, smokestacks,fuel tanks, and grill and bumper. At the minimum blue eyes and a tinted blue windshield.
The collectors who want an original Prime, or close reissue have a ton to choose from, most of which at a better or equal price. They barely did anything to this toy to call it a "special" edition.

Maybe something like this:
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd11 ... efront.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd11 ... turned.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd11 ... byside.jpg

for a 70 dollar collectible they could have at least give him his smoke stacks. I would rather invest in the encore version there you have the smoke stacks. It just doest feel like the origonal with out them

Ok, I appreciate people are annoyed about the colours. And rightly so. But the comments about the smokestacks are just getting annoying. Hasbro CAN'T put the longer smokestacks on, ok? It's not "a slap in the face to the fans." Although the next person using that phrase should get a slap in the face.

I'm really not sure about this thing for including comics and/or DVDs. I appreciate it's good for people who don't own those things already, but... I've already got the G1 cartoon (complete on DVD, first season on VHS). I don't like the idea of paying extra for things I already have. Surely that's actually more of problem for fans?

My friend just bought his, from a store, his has none of the problems mentioned here.
See? That's what happens when you buy from ebay, you get rejected Test Shots and start whining to other fans about "how hasbro failed you".

Sledge wrote:Ok, I appreciate people are annoyed about the colours. And rightly so. But the comments about the smokestacks are just getting annoying. Hasbro CAN'T put the longer smokestacks on, ok? It's not "a slap in the face to the fans." Although the next person using that phrase should get a slap in the face.

Yeah, I totally agree on that one. If you want to complain, complain to the safety commission (which Hasbro has to answer to, as does every toy company)

rhinox555 wrote:ought his, from a store, his has none of the problems mentioned here.
See? That's what happens when you buy from ebay, you get rejected Test Shots and start whining to other fans about "how hasbro failed you".

It sounds like you are taking a shot at Ryan here, please clarify that.

As for the color scheme, I have a hard time telling just how bad it is without seeing it up close, but Ryan knows his stuff and I trust him.

Personally, I think if they were going to do a true 25th reissue I would have liked to have seen a lighter blue head and blue eyes.

Delicon wrote:
Personally, I think if they were going to do a true 25th reissue I would have liked to have seen a lighter blue head and blue eyes.

Actually, it should have the more accurate I-pod convoy head, and blue eyes!

We all know QC varies. There are bound to be some gems out there, and there are bound to be a few pieces that are poorer in quality. Also, quality can be determined individually, some people might be happy with what Ryan got, but others would not.

rhinox555 wrote:My friend just bought his, from a store, his has none of the problems mentioned here.
See? That's what happens when you buy from ebay, you get rejected Test Shots and start whining to other fans about "how hasbro failed you".

So Ryan got a rejected test shot by buying one retail at Wal-Mart?? He mentioned that he picked one up this week in the Illinois Sightings thread. Your logic (and research) needs some work.

rhinox555 wrote:My friend just bought his, from a store, his has none of the problems mentioned here.
See? That's what happens when you buy from ebay, you get rejected Test Shots and start whining to other fans about "how hasbro failed you".

Oh, these are such surprising comments coming from you of all people. I don’t think Ryan even bought his off eBay.

Why do you have this vendetta against the staff and Ryan?

muswp1 wrote:

rhinox555 wrote:My friend just bought his, from a store, his has none of the problems mentioned here.
See? That's what happens when you buy from ebay, you get rejected Test Shots and start whining to other fans about "how hasbro failed you".

So Ryan got a rejected test shot by buying one retail at Wal-Mart?? He mentioned that he picked one up this week in the Illinois Sightings thread. Your logic (and research) needs some work.

I admit I haven't read everything since this thread got going, but I do remember Ryan mentioning that he'd bought one retail during the course of this thread as well. Where did this thing about test shots come from? I don't recall this ever being about a test shot; my understanding has always been that this review is about the actual product.

Nekoman wrote:Oh, these are such surprising comments coming from you of all people. I don’t think Ryan even bought his off eBay.

Like I've already said, I don't think he did. To be clear about what I meant before, I'm pretty sure he mentioned in this thread as well as the IL sightings thread that he bought this retail from Wal-Mart.

I'll have to join the ranks of people who don't understand the beef against Wiki, either. They suck at arm wrestling, sure (a Botcon 08 reference), but they're good guys.

Delicon wrote:I'll have to join the ranks of people who don't understand the beef against Wiki, either. They suck at arm wrestling, sure (a Botcon 08 reference), but they're good guys.

They're blithely Americocentric, but that's my only beef with them.

Nekoman wrote:

rhinox555 wrote:My friend just bought his, from a store, his has none of the problems mentioned here.
See? That's what happens when you buy from ebay, you get rejected Test Shots and start whining to other fans about "how hasbro failed you".

Oh, these are such surprising comments coming from you of all people. I don’t think Ryan even bought his off eBay.

Why do you have this vendetta against the staff and Ryan?

Why is it so surprising from me specificly? I've had some figures with problems but i dealt with it.
And i'm not gonna bring up the reason why there's a certain group of people who carry anger to Ryan, it would just derail the thread.

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My bad on the ebay/wal*mart thing, i was in a rush, but keep in mind this thing wasn't even supposed to appear yet for another three months, it's probably a defective wave. And a newspost full of anger over one bad sample is just a big no.

rhinox555 wrote:And i'm not gonna bring up the reason why there's a certain group of people who carry anger to Ryan, it would just derail the thread.

If you're spewing venom, which you seem to be, you either need to apologize or explain yourself.

I don't think you're a bad guy or anything, but you took this thread on a bad turn with some of your comments and you should man up and face that. The thread has long since been "derailed", unfortunately.

Seibertron wrote:

SentinelA wrote:Just so I'm clear on this: the problem is with the paint job not the mold itself. The toy won't fall apart or break if you do take it out of the box?

The right knee on my figure is loose. I haven't figured out what is wrong with it but it stands just fine. It just flops back/down when I'm holding the figure.

There was also a problem with one of the arms where part of the spring inside was sticking out between two of the plastic halves that form his arm. I carefully took his arm apart and put the spring back in properly without any problems. I imagine this problem will be limited to just mine.

OMG! WTF? I am speechless!

bvzxa wrote:I'm guessung I'll get the NEw Yaers Convoy set for a second time since I sold mine back in 2002.

Never liked the US reissues of G1 in the first place..

Good luck. This version's always been too expensive for me.

muswp1 wrote:Is it just me or does the red on the 25th anniversary Prime look like a lighter version of the red that was on the Movie edition Masterpiece Prime??

... the hell

Poor Prime...still coming up a little short in the stack department eh?

Down_Shift wrote:

muswp1 wrote:Is it just me or does the red on the 25th anniversary Prime look like a lighter version of the red that was on the Movie edition Masterpiece Prime??

... the hell

Sorry, that was my term for the Wal-Mart Masterpiece Prime that came out last year. It had that awful orange/red paint job and it looks like a slightly darker version of this Prime.

You know, this has even got me outta Seibertron retirement to say that I have NEVER seen Ryan this scathing about a figure. Holy crap but this has to be dire.

Thank the Gods for my minty TFC Prime.

muswp1 wrote:

Down_Shift wrote:

muswp1 wrote:Is it just me or does the red on the 25th anniversary Prime look like a lighter version of the red that was on the Movie edition Masterpiece Prime??

... the hell

Sorry, that was my term for the Wal-Mart Masterpiece Prime that came out last year. It had that awful orange/red paint job and it looks like a slightly darker version of this Prime.

Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooh. I was picturing a MP Prime in a Movie Deco. Hahahaha, wouldn't that drive fans NUTS

Big Grim. Good to see you're still alive.

rhinox555 wrote:Why is it so surprising from me specificly?

It was sarcasm. No, your hatred of this site and the people who run it is not surprising at all. You’re constantly picking at the staff and Ryan and I’m clueless as to why.

muswp1 wrote:

Down_Shift wrote:

muswp1 wrote:Is it just me or does the red on the 25th anniversary Prime look like a lighter version of the red that was on the Movie edition Masterpiece Prime??

... the hell

Sorry, that was my term for the Wal-Mart Masterpiece Prime that came out last year. It had that awful orange/red paint job and it looks like a slightly darker version of this Prime.

That do be DVD Prime.

And that was more orange than pink. Hasbro seems to have issues getting the color red right as of late, lol.

I'm still alittle surprised at the price tag on this. That voice box must be hella expensive to make.

Bonger wrote:That do be DVD Prime.

And that was more orange than pink. Hasbro seems to have issues getting the color red right as of late, lol.

I'm still alittle surprised at the price tag on this. That voice box must be hella expensive to make.

This voice box has to be better than Wal-Mart DVD Prime's. I mean, Chris Rock could have done a better Optimus Prime voiceover.

Delicon wrote:

Bonger wrote:That do be DVD Prime.

And that was more orange than pink. Hasbro seems to have issues getting the color red right as of late, lol.

I'm still alittle surprised at the price tag on this. That voice box must be hella expensive to make.

This voice box has to be better than Wal-Mart DVD Prime's. I mean, Chris Rock could have done a better Optimus Prime voiceover.

lol, apparantly it is a very informal Cullen voice.

I heard Peter Cullen at Botcon 07 during one of the panels doing Prime's voice and he didn't sound like he needed any sound effect "help."

Delicon wrote:I heard Peter Cullen at Botcon 07 during one of the panels doing Prime's voice and he didn't sound like he needed any sound effect "help."

Hah, that's gotta be funny if he sounds like OP all the time.

This.....This....I'm just sad now...................

Soldier of Shockwave wrote:This.....This....I'm just sad now...................

Why all the pessimism? If you need a solid G1 Prime, you can still get the Encore Prime for much less money than this one. Even if they had got the colors right, the Encore still gives the long smokestacks and is still cheaper and is just a better option in every possible way.

Bonger wrote:

Soldier of Shockwave wrote:This.....This....I'm just sad now...................

Why all the pessimism? If you need a solid G1 Prime, you can still get the Encore Prime for much less money than this one. Even if they had got the colors right, the Encore still gives the long smokestacks and is still cheaper and is just a better option in every possible way.

And this one does not look to be a horrible toy. Just not what we thought it would be.

Rhinox555- Ryan did not write a scathing review, nor was it posted in the news that he did. He was simply telling his POV on this toy trying to warn members before they blow $70 and say, "Why didn't anyone tell me?"

tigertracks 24 wrote:

Bonger wrote:

Soldier of Shockwave wrote:This.....This....I'm just sad now...................

Why all the pessimism? If you need a solid G1 Prime, you can still get the Encore Prime for much less money than this one. Even if they had got the colors right, the Encore still gives the long smokestacks and is still cheaper and is just a better option in every possible way.

And this one does not look to be a horrible toy. Just not what we thought it would be.

Rhinox555- Ryan did not write a scathing review, nor was it posted in the news that he did. He was simply telling his POV on this toy trying to warn members before they blow $70 and say, "Why didn't anyone tell me?"

Fair ebnough, but even if it was exactly how we expected, the Encore is still more accurate (smokestacks) and cheaper. The only reason for buying this is the packaging, and that has not changed one bit. As Ryan said, if you leave it MISB, it is still a fun buy. If not, the Encore wins regardless based on price and accuracy. So really, nothing has been changed by the pink fudge up in my opinion.

One thing no one has covered yet is the DVD. Is it the reedited episodes from Rino, or another variation? I ask because this might tell us what to expect when we get a DVD release.

Delicon wrote:

rhinox555 wrote:And i'm not gonna bring up the reason why there's a certain group of people who carry anger to Ryan, it would just derail the thread.

If you're spewing venom, which you seem to be, you either need to apologize or explain yourself.

I don't think you're a bad guy or anything, but you took this thread on a bad turn with some of your comments and you should man up and face that. The thread has long since been "derailed", unfortunately.

I'm sorry. My comment wasn't meant in an offensive way, bad choice of words i guess.

Nekoman wrote:

rhinox555 wrote:Why is it so surprising from me specificly?

It was sarcasm. No, your hatred of this site and the people who run it is not surprising at all. You’re constantly picking at the staff and Ryan and I’m clueless as to why.

Like i said earlier, i'm not going to bring it up in this thread, it's a touchy subject. If you really want to know, just pm me about it or something.
And despite my anger against Ryan, my comment had nothing to do with that, i'd appreciate if you stopped turning my comment into something it's not. My comment was merely about the fact that he's bashing on a figure for one bad sample. If anything, Animated and Universe tought us that early samples carry flaws all the time.