High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron

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Thanks to Loopaza Mega Store on Facebook, we have high resolution scans of the collector magazine Figure King, featuring plenty of Transformers figures from Studio Series, Power of the Primes, and the now very varied Masterpiece line which includes Diaclone style redecos, a fully golden Optimus Prime and Beast Wars Masterpiece toys, like Megatron.

Most notably, we have some more Power of the Primes Inferno, Studio Series Wave 2 deluxes and voyagers, and these are the best quality images of the first time we see Beast Wars Megatron's beast mode. Fans who can read Japanese have stated that this Masterpiece Beast Wars Megatron figure includes a sound chip, which will undoubtedly be in Japanese.

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Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1961545)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 25th, 2018 @ 2:22pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:

THEY DID THE JAZZ ON THE BACK OF BRAWL LIKE FROM THE FILM! I love that.

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1961546)
Posted by Quantum Surge on May 25th, 2018 @ 2:32pm CDT

I'm sure fans who never saw the Japanese Beast Wars dub may be confused if Takara chose to make Megatron's voice clips be the goofier ones like him screaming or him saying he's late for piano practice.

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1961557)
Posted by X3ROhour on May 25th, 2018 @ 4:38pm CDT

Yyyyyeeeeeeesssss!

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1961571)
Posted by megamanfan on May 25th, 2018 @ 7:30pm CDT

kinda wish they abandoned the voice ship to shave like $30 off the price. the jap beast wars dub was trash, and it really isn't BW megatron unless i hear david kaye.

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1961632)
Posted by Randomhero on May 26th, 2018 @ 6:25am CDT

megamanfan wrote:kinda wish they abandoned the voice ship to shave like $30 off the price. the jap beast wars dub was trash, and it really isn't BW megatron unless i hear david kaye.

It’s their version of megatron. Takara doesn’t make their master piece figures for western audiences. They will take your money because they know you’ll give it to them but you are not their target audience so they are not going to accommodate to you because they dont have to.

Just like the Legends line. Their focus was pretty much the Takara Trilogy with their decos and retooling while hasbro-got whatever reason- does G1 toy accuracy because they they believe that’s what everyone wants.

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1961650)
Posted by Blitzwing is bae on May 26th, 2018 @ 10:05am CDT

WOW! These bw mp figs keep getting bigger and bigger! :HEADHURTS:

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1961746)
Posted by X3ROhour on May 27th, 2018 @ 12:05am CDT

Blitzwing is bae wrote:WOW! These bw mp figs keep getting bigger and bigger!

Yeah.
Y is that?
:-?

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1961771)
Posted by william-james88 on May 27th, 2018 @ 6:34am CDT

Z3ROhour wrote:
Blitzwing is bae wrote:WOW! These bw mp figs keep getting bigger and bigger!

Yeah.
Y is that?

Because of scale

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1961772)
Posted by Emerje on May 27th, 2018 @ 6:34am CDT

Z3ROhour wrote:
Blitzwing is bae wrote:WOW! These bw mp figs keep getting bigger and bigger!

Yeah.
Y is that?

Because they keep making figures of bigger characters than the last. >:oP

Emerje

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1961833)
Posted by TulioDude on May 27th, 2018 @ 2:33pm CDT

Looking great!
He needs an alternate head with a simle but with a closed mouth.

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1961870)
Posted by fenrir72 on May 27th, 2018 @ 5:50pm CDT

Randomhero wrote:
megamanfan wrote:kinda wish they abandoned the voice ship to shave like $30 off the price. the jap beast wars dub was trash, and it really isn't BW megatron unless i hear david kaye.

It’s their version of megatron. Takara doesn’t make their master piece figures for western audiences. They will take your money because they know you’ll give it to them but you are not their target audience so they are not going to accommodate to you because they dont have to.

Just like the Legends line. Their focus was pretty much the Takara Trilogy with their decos and retooling while hasbro-got whatever reason- does G1 toy accuracy because they they believe that’s what everyone wants.

THIS x INFINITY!

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1961939)
Posted by BluePhirePB on May 28th, 2018 @ 7:33am CDT

So now we have Optimus Primal, Cheetor, Dinobot and Megatron.

Wonder who from BW they'll make next.

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1962177)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 29th, 2018 @ 5:51pm CDT

BluePhirePB wrote:So now we have Optimus Primal, Cheetor, Dinobot and Megatron.

Wonder who from BW they'll make next.

My personal guess would be on either Rattrap or Waspinator

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1966313)
Posted by william-james88 on June 23rd, 2018 @ 6:22pm CDT

Every month we get new scans from the hobby magazine Figure King which is Takara's main channel for reveals, outside of shows, and new product images. And this one might be one for the ages with the best look yet at many upcoming Masterpiece figures, one of them being Beast Wars Megatron, probably the most sought after since the line's inception. Many of these images did crop up in the corresponding figures' threads but Loopaza has now uploaded high quality images of the entire Transformers section. We see that not only did we have Masterpiece figures, but we also have new shots of the Gold Lagoon repaints and Encore Beast Wars Returns Convoy (Beast Machines Optimus Primal). There is one cool shot of the 3 Optimus Primal figures we got recently reminding us all that big bot is getting some well deserved love.

Here are the corresponding figures' if you want to join the discussion:

MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron

MP Optimus Prime 3.0

Beast Machines Optimus Primal

Gold Lagoon Figures

MP 36+ Megatron G1 Toy Deco

Power of the Primes

This month Magazine Figure King cover the coming up Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron in full color! All the details being shown in full and all other Transformers line up as well. And finally, the first look of the Masterpiece Optimus Prime 3.0 version!

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1966362)
Posted by noctorro on June 24th, 2018 @ 2:04am CDT

I like the stripped version.
Damn he's huge, And Dinobot as well.

Offtopic:
What's the deal with SDCC 2018 Transformers? I haven't heard anything about exclusives etc.
Is there going to be a new Big One like Metroplex etc.?

Lots of ??? here

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1966371)
Posted by durroth on June 24th, 2018 @ 4:57am CDT

I'm not sure I like this Optimus, his torso seems weirdly small compared to MP10

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1966383)
Posted by Emerje on June 24th, 2018 @ 6:23am CDT

noctorro wrote:Offtopic:
What's the deal with SDCC 2018 Transformers? I haven't heard anything about exclusives etc.
Is there going to be a new Big One like Metroplex etc.?

Lots of ??? here

It was just over a week before SDCC 2017 when Hasbro officially announced their exclusives last year so don't be surprised if we don't hear anything this year until a week or so into July.

On topic: I'm not crazy about the gold lagoon set, but I do have to admire Takara Tomy's dedication in combining four different lines (Unite Warriors, Legends, Power of the Primes, and Masterpiece) to make this all work.

Emerje

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1973932)
Posted by william-james88 on July 25th, 2018 @ 1:49pm CDT

The new action figure magazine is out and the hot item this month is the Unicron of Light which is the antithesis to Armada Unicron, made up of all the minicons and their combined energy/light. While it is a representation of the same thing the Lucky Draw toy is based on, it has a very different take on the deco, which is a smart way to keep the Lucky Draw unique and collectable while offering everyone now a chance to own a representation of this being for their shelves.

We also have some shots of Masterpiece Beast Wars Megatron and of toys identical to their Hasbro counterpart like Wreck Gar and Nemesis Prime.This is indeed lighter than previous months, especially since there are fewer Transformers toys Takara is releasing differently from Hasbro. That doesn't mean Takara themselves as a company have less to offer. So, we also included more shots from this magazine, showcasing their other giant robot line, Diaclone.

These images were brought to us by the Loopaza Megastore.

Enjoy!

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1973933)
Posted by Bumblevivisector on July 25th, 2018 @ 2:07pm CDT

An update of Battle Buffalo?!?

That means the Neo-Diaclone line really is touching back on Transformers: specifically, 'Space Transformers'! Diatron 5!!!

And while I'm not crazy about every liberty taken with the design, this has me wondering just how freaky an updated Warudaros might turn out! Masterpiece Paras B!

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1973937)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on July 25th, 2018 @ 2:24pm CDT

Every time i see that Unicron, I want to place him next to a pot of gold with a rainbow coming out of it.

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980170)
Posted by william-james88 on August 23rd, 2018 @ 12:51pm CDT

While more high resolution scans would be fun, we wanted to share all the Transformers goodness found in the latest issue of the Figure King Magazine. While this highlights Takara releases, these are for the most part the same figures we are getting from Hasbro (including the Masterpiece toys). The one figure that so far still seems to be Takara exclusive is the Legendary Optimus Prime, which we finally have an image showing us how big it truly is.

We see an image comparing it to the voyager Evasion Mode Optimus Prime, showing it to be the size of a modern day leader class toy (or just about). Speaking of scale, we also see how big Micromasters are, which is the exact same size as the Prime Master decoy armour (so slightly bigger than their G1 counterparts). We also get a sense of how big the Power Charge Bumblebee toy is in vehicle mode.

We also see other Transformers Siege toys, but nothing that has yet to be revealed. What is curious is that the Optimus Pime we are seeing does not have weathering effects. It is unknown if that means there will be a difference between Takara and Hasbro (which would go against what we have been told) or if this is simply an early figure and the final result will be different. We have yet to see the finished product from Hasbro too, since everything we have seen of Siege was a painted model.

We also see Masterpiece Optimus Prime version 3 which highlights his articulation and backpack.

And there is more, much more, like Takara Tomy Studio Series Starcream, Movie Bumblebee and KSI Sentry, MPM-06 Ironhide, Encore Big Convoy, Studio Series DOTM Ratcher, Ironhide and Shadow Raider, PP Throne Of The Primes, Masterpiece Wheeljack, Legends Grotusque and Repugnus and the Unite Warriors reissues.

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980176)
Posted by Octobotimus on August 23rd, 2018 @ 1:02pm CDT

wow..... they oversized the evasion prime and added the same upgrades to it as the weijang KO did..... the fact that they had to copy a KO and still look worse than it is depressing.... (good job weijang on making an awesome ko that even takara wanted to copy)

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980194)
Posted by Counterpunch on August 23rd, 2018 @ 2:06pm CDT

Pay more to avoid weathering paint apps?

Uhg...

Fine.

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980199)
Posted by Randomhero on August 23rd, 2018 @ 2:15pm CDT

Counterpunch wrote:Pay more to avoid weathering paint apps?

Uhg...

Fine.

Sideswipe has the weathering so it’s probaky just takara painted proto

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980200)
Posted by SkyFire Prime on August 23rd, 2018 @ 2:18pm CDT

He still has the wear paint aps just the lighting and quality of photo obscuring it's view, check the standing pose, left leg.

Also the wear aps are invisible depending on angle of light.

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980201)
Posted by Emerje on August 23rd, 2018 @ 2:30pm CDT

Octobotimus wrote:wow..... they oversized the evasion prime and added the same upgrades to it as the weijang KO did..... the fact that they had to copy a KO and still look worse than it is depressing.... (good job weijang on making an awesome ko that even takara wanted to copy)

It's a new mold, not an upscale.

Emerje

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980203)
Posted by Octobotimus on August 23rd, 2018 @ 2:40pm CDT

Emerje wrote:
Octobotimus wrote:wow..... they oversized the evasion prime and added the same upgrades to it as the weijang KO did..... the fact that they had to copy a KO and still look worse than it is depressing.... (good job weijang on making an awesome ko that even takara wanted to copy)

It's a new mold, not an upscale.

Emerje

its literally the same mold upscaled.... (the freaking thing transforms the same and has the same molding). i feel like there is some denial here purely cause i mentioned they ripped off a ko.

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980210)
Posted by william-james88 on August 23rd, 2018 @ 2:57pm CDT

Octobotimus wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Octobotimus wrote:wow..... they oversized the evasion prime and added the same upgrades to it as the weijang KO did..... the fact that they had to copy a KO and still look worse than it is depressing.... (good job weijang on making an awesome ko that even takara wanted to copy)

It's a new mold, not an upscale.

Emerje

its literally the same mold upscaled.... (the freaking thing transforms the same and has the same molding). i feel like there is some denial here purely cause i mentioned they ripped off a ko.

Its been proven not to be the same mold upscaled, the transformation is different

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... old/41723/

It looks like those who dont want to admit its a new mold are in denial and much preffer the idea of Takara ripping off a KO

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980212)
Posted by Overcracker on August 23rd, 2018 @ 3:01pm CDT

Octobotimus wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Octobotimus wrote:wow..... they oversized the evasion prime and added the same upgrades to it as the weijang KO did..... the fact that they had to copy a KO and still look worse than it is depressing.... (good job weijang on making an awesome ko that even takara wanted to copy)

It's a new mold, not an upscale.

Emerje

its literally the same mold upscaled....

It's literally not the same mold.

There are enough engineering, transformation, and detailing differences to negate that.

Things end up in very different places.

It looks the same, because its meant to look the same, same robot mode and same truck mode, but its not the same mold, upscaled by a long shot.

Quoting WJ, from the Bumblebee Movie thread:

william-james88 wrote:The fandom is currently puzzled over the new reveal from Takara Tomy of an Evasion Mode Optimus Prime toy for their upcoming Transformers Bumblebee Movie toyline. How different is it from the previous mold? How much of a retool is it, along with it being an upscale? Well, from certain angles, the changes seem minimal, but at others, as you will see, it might be a completely new mold sharing some transformation steps.

By comparing to images of the Age of Extinction toy, you will notice that everything related to the arms is completely different. The shoulder armour is made of individual pieces, giving further proof that this does have a parts count more akin to a leader class toy. The forearms are completely different too and none of the details match.

Another huge difference, where it seems the transformation itself differs, is when we look at the back. Not only does the back of the top half have different pieces, but in the legs we can see that instead of him having two wheels at his calves, he has two wheels near his hips. So, judging by all this, it is far more likely that this is a new mold using some tricks and design cues of the first toy, like the foot transformation.

These new photos come to us from the Toyswalker facebook page.

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980220)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on August 23rd, 2018 @ 3:23pm CDT

That Prime tempts me even if it won't scale with Studio but only if it's released in the UK and at a reasonable price.

Micromasters... I liked them back in the day as Transformers I could easily sneak into school and such but these days they don't really work for me as mainline figures. They're just too ridiculously out of scale with non-Micromaster figures. Legends/Legions make sense because they're small simpler alternatives of characters who have larger more complex figures and serve a different purpose to them.

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980221)
Posted by Octobotimus on August 23rd, 2018 @ 3:27pm CDT

Overcracker wrote:
Octobotimus wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Octobotimus wrote:wow..... they oversized the evasion prime and added the same upgrades to it as the weijang KO did..... the fact that they had to copy a KO and still look worse than it is depressing.... (good job weijang on making an awesome ko that even takara wanted to copy)

It's a new mold, not an upscale.

Emerje

its literally the same mold upscaled....

It's literally not the same mold.

There are enough engineering, transformation, and detailing differences to negate that.

Things end up in very different places.

It looks the same, because its meant to look the same, same robot mode and same truck mode, but its not the same mold, upscaled by a long shot.

Quoting WJ, from the Bumblebee Movie thread:

william-james88 wrote:The fandom is currently puzzled over the new reveal from Takara Tomy of an Evasion Mode Optimus Prime toy for their upcoming Transformers Bumblebee Movie toyline. How different is it from the previous mold? How much of a retool is it, along with it being an upscale? Well, from certain angles, the changes seem minimal, but at others, as you will see, it might be a completely new mold sharing some transformation steps.

By comparing to images of the Age of Extinction toy, you will notice that everything related to the arms is completely different. The shoulder armour is made of individual pieces, giving further proof that this does have a parts count more akin to a leader class toy. The forearms are completely different too and none of the details match.

Another huge difference, where it seems the transformation itself differs, is when we look at the back. Not only does the back of the top half have different pieces, but in the legs we can see that instead of him having two wheels at his calves, he has two wheels near his hips. So, judging by all this, it is far more likely that this is a new mold using some tricks and design cues of the first toy, like the foot transformation.

These new photos come to us from the Toyswalker facebook page.

if you own the mold, please, transform it a couple times and compare it to the pics of this guy. it transformers the same, the truck is the same, the arms have not been fixed (as in the elbows are the same) its planely obvious.... if this considered a new mold then weijang's optimus shouldn't be called a KO either. since that clearly had the same if not more changes compared to this "new" mold.

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980232)
Posted by Emerje on August 23rd, 2018 @ 4:02pm CDT

Octobotimus wrote:if you own the mold, please, transform it a couple times and compare it to the pics of this guy. it transformers the same, the truck is the same, the arms have not been fixed (as in the elbows are the same) its planely obvious.... if this considered a new mold then weijang's optimus shouldn't be called a KO either. since that clearly had the same if not more changes compared to this "new" mold.

I really don't know why you can't admit you're wrong when the photos don't lie. These two don't have a single part in common, upscaled or otherwise, and the transformation is only similar, but has a bunch of key changes. The arms don't even transform the same way anymore with more compact forearms and shoulder pads that are their own part rather than sculpted on. The truck has a bunch of new parts not found like the chromed portion on the back of the cab and the entire back end near the trailer mount.

Emerje

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980233)
Posted by Randomhero on August 23rd, 2018 @ 4:06pm CDT

Octobotimus wrote:
Overcracker wrote:
Octobotimus wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Octobotimus wrote:wow..... they oversized the evasion prime and added the same upgrades to it as the weijang KO did..... the fact that they had to copy a KO and still look worse than it is depressing.... (good job weijang on making an awesome ko that even takara wanted to copy)

It's a new mold, not an upscale.

Emerje

its literally the same mold upscaled....

It's literally not the same mold.

There are enough engineering, transformation, and detailing differences to negate that.

Things end up in very different places.

It looks the same, because its meant to look the same, same robot mode and same truck mode, but its not the same mold, upscaled by a long shot.

Quoting WJ, from the Bumblebee Movie thread:

william-james88 wrote:The fandom is currently puzzled over the new reveal from Takara Tomy of an Evasion Mode Optimus Prime toy for their upcoming Transformers Bumblebee Movie toyline. How different is it from the previous mold? How much of a retool is it, along with it being an upscale? Well, from certain angles, the changes seem minimal, but at others, as you will see, it might be a completely new mold sharing some transformation steps.

By comparing to images of the Age of Extinction toy, you will notice that everything related to the arms is completely different. The shoulder armour is made of individual pieces, giving further proof that this does have a parts count more akin to a leader class toy. The forearms are completely different too and none of the details match.

Another huge difference, where it seems the transformation itself differs, is when we look at the back. Not only does the back of the top half have different pieces, but in the legs we can see that instead of him having two wheels at his calves, he has two wheels near his hips. So, judging by all this, it is far more likely that this is a new mold using some tricks and design cues of the first toy, like the foot transformation.

These new photos come to us from the Toyswalker facebook page.

if you own the mold, please, transform it a couple times and compare it to the pics of this guy. it transformers the same, the truck is the same, the arms have not been fixed (as in the elbows are the same) its planely obvious.... if this considered a new mold then weijang's optimus shouldn't be called a KO either. since that clearly had the same if not more changes compared to this "new" mold.

How are you able to see what you’re typing with such awful eyesight?

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980234)
Posted by Overcracker on August 23rd, 2018 @ 4:11pm CDT

Octobotimus wrote:if you own the mold, please, transform it a couple times and compare it to the pics of this guy. it transformers the same, the truck is the same, the arms have not been fixed (as in the elbows are the same) its planely obvious.... if this considered a new mold then weijang's optimus shouldn't be called a KO either. since that clearly had the same if not more changes compared to this "new" mold.

I do own the mold, and that's why I know its not the same mold.

Do you not see the difference in shoulders, the difference in where one set of wheels ends up on the thighs instead of the lower legs, the difference in back panels. Feet are different, head is different, the upper legs are similar but clearly not the same, the lower legs are different. He has hinges on his side view mirrors. Hands are different. Forearms are different.

Yes, there are similarities in transformation, and engineering, its the same truck mode, transforming into the same robot mode sure, but the overall mold has very little of the Voyager Evasion Mode Prime.

That's like saying these 2 are the same toy, and Leader Class Megatron is just upscaled from the voyager toy.

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980236)
Posted by Octobotimus on August 23rd, 2018 @ 4:17pm CDT

Overcracker wrote:
Octobotimus wrote:if you own the mold, please, transform it a couple times and compare it to the pics of this guy. it transformers the same, the truck is the same, the arms have not been fixed (as in the elbows are the same) its planely obvious.... if this considered a new mold then weijang's optimus shouldn't be called a KO either. since that clearly had the same if not more changes compared to this "new" mold.

I do own the mold, and that's why I know its not the same mold.

Do you not see the difference in shoulders, the difference in where one set of wheels ends up on the thighs instead of the lower legs, the difference in back panels. Feet are different, head is different, the upper legs are similar but clearly not the same, the lower legs are different. He has hinges on his side view mirrors.

Yes, there are similarities in transformation, and engineering, its the same truck mode, transforming into the same robot mode sure, but the overall mold has very little of the Voyager Evasion Mode Prime.

That's like saying these 2 are the same toy, and Leader Class Megatron is just upscaled from the voyager toy.

ok now your comparing figures that don't have a single detail thats the same nor do they transform the same... i'm comparing two primes that clearly transform the same, have the same exact details in the legs, crotch, chest, most of vehicle mode. next you'll be telling me tlk hot rod is a completely new mold.... it seems the main reason i'm getting all this flak is cause you people think i support ko's.... (i DON'T) i bet not too long ago you were the same people saying the SS starscream is an upscaled version of the dotm deluxe. but even that figure had more original components than this thing..

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980250)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 23rd, 2018 @ 5:09pm CDT

You're getting so much flak because you are objectively and demonstrably wrong.

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980252)
Posted by Octobotimus on August 23rd, 2018 @ 5:20pm CDT

Wolfman Jake wrote:You're getting so much flak because you are objectively and demonstrably wrong.

Ok, please make a side by side showing that the legs, crotch, chest, and arms are not the same.... and that it doesn’t transform the same way. please do so and prove me wrong.

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980257)
Posted by Arnoud on August 23rd, 2018 @ 5:53pm CDT

Octobotimus wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:You're getting so much flak because you are objectively and demonstrably wrong.

Ok, pls make a side by side showing that the legs, crotch, chest, and arms are not the same.... and that it doesn’t transform the same way. please do so and prove me wrong.

I'm with octobotimus on this one. They definitely used the evasion Optimus as the basis for this figure. You can see the same panel lines on the cab of the truck. His feet also end up on the same place as the Voyager and his arms also have the front windows on them, again, just like the evasion mode Prime. They just took that mold, upscaled it and improved upon it.

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980261)
Posted by Omega-Doom on August 23rd, 2018 @ 6:28pm CDT

Octobotimus wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:You're getting so much flak because you are objectively and demonstrably wrong.

Ok, please make a side by side showing that the legs, crotch, chest, and arms are not the same.... and that it doesn’t transform the same way. please do so and prove me wrong.

HasTak probably based the figure off of the Age of Extinction figure but then they drastically changed it, you've been shown pictures of how it is different, just accept the fact that you are wrong and that your opinion is invalid since it is clearly wrong and not even possible. If you think it was a straight upscale with a couple of retoolings then in your eyes every figure that shares similar engineering is clearly the same figure.

Not to be a prick but here is an example of a couple of figures that look similar but are completely different.

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980262)
Posted by Overcracker on August 23rd, 2018 @ 6:30pm CDT

Octobotimus wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:You're getting so much flak because you are objectively and demonstrably wrong.

Ok, pls make a side by side showing that the legs, crotch, chest, and arms are not the same.... and that it doesn’t transform the same way. please do so and prove me wrong.

Did you miss all the comparison pictures above showing the differences?

Leader Class Legendary

Voyager Evasion Mode

Nore the hinged gray panel in the middle which does not exist on the Evasion Mode Prime.

Leader Class Legendary

Voyager Evasion Mode

Notice the shoulder pieces are separate pieces to the actual shoulder joint where Evasion Mode has a molded shoulder.

Notice the bicep pieces are completely different between the two of them.

Notice the forearms have more panels on Legendary, than on Evasion, and do not have the panel covering the hand.

Notice how the hands are articulated, instead of being molded in one piece.

Leader Class Legendary

Voyager Evasion Mode

Notice the back panel is different. Being larger on Legendary than on Evasion, and having to extra blue panels.

Notice how the the crotch piece is while very similar not the same. With an L shaped groove on Legendary.

Notice how the lower legs are a completely different mold, do not have the second tire, and also do not appear to rotate like Evasion Mode's legs did for transformation. They transform some other way. Unclear how yet.

Notice how even the backs of the feet are different.

The Gas tanks rotate on Legendary where they don't on Evasion Mode.

If you think Voyager Megatron, and Leader Megatron do not share any detailing, then I don't know what to tell you anymore.

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980265)
Posted by Octobotimus on August 23rd, 2018 @ 6:39pm CDT

Overcracker wrote:
Octobotimus wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:You're getting so much flak because you are objectively and demonstrably wrong.

Ok, pls make a side by side showing that the legs, crotch, chest, and arms are not the same.... and that it doesn’t transform the same way. please do so and prove me wrong.

Did you miss all the comparison pictures above showing the differences?

Leader Class Legendary

Voyager Evasion Mode

Nore the hinged gray panel in the middle which does not exist on the Evasion Mode Prime.

Leader Class Legendary

Voyager Evasion Mode

Notice the shoulder pieces are separate pieces to the actual shoulder joint where Evasion Mode has a molded shoulder.

Notice the bicep pieces are completely different between the two of them.

Notice the forearms have more panels on Legendary, than on Evasion, and do not have the panel covering the hand.

Notice how the hands are articulated, instead of being molded in one piece.

Leader Class Legendary

Voyager Evasion Mode

Notice the back panel is different. Being larger on Legendary than on Evasion, and having to extra blue panels.

Notice how the the crotch piece is while very similar not the same. With an L shaped groove on Legendary.

Notice how the lower legs are a completely different mold, do not have the second tire, and also do not appear to rotate like Evasion Mode's legs did for transformation. They transform some other way. Unclear how yet.

Notice how even the backs of the feet are different.

The Gas tanks rotate on Legendary where they don't on Evasion Mode.

If you think Voyager Megatron, and Leader Megatron do not share any detailing, then I don't know what to tell you anymore.

ok so yes, there are added on bits. but the core figure has remained the same. the thing with those 2 megatrons didn't make sense because the transformation was completely differently. these 2 primes transform identically with just an extra 2 or so steps with the new one. adding bits to the original doesn't exactly make it a completely new mold, which many seem to be making the case.

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980267)
Posted by Arnoud on August 23rd, 2018 @ 6:54pm CDT

Overcracker wrote:
Octobotimus wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:You're getting so much flak because you are objectively and demonstrably wrong.

Ok, pls make a side by side showing that the legs, crotch, chest, and arms are not the same.... and that it doesn’t transform the same way. please do so and prove me wrong.

Did you miss all the comparison pictures above showing the differences?

Leader Class Legendary

Voyager Evasion Mode

Nore the hinged gray panel in the middle which does not exist on the Evasion Mode Prime.

Leader Class Legendary

Voyager Evasion Mode

Notice the shoulder pieces are separate pieces to the actual shoulder joint where Evasion Mode has a molded shoulder.

Notice the bicep pieces are completely different between the two of them.

Notice the forearms have more panels on Legendary, than on Evasion, and do not have the panel covering the hand.

Notice how the hands are articulated, instead of being molded in one piece.

Leader Class Legendary

Voyager Evasion Mode

Notice the back panel is different. Being larger on Legendary than on Evasion, and having to extra blue panels.

Notice how the the crotch piece is while very similar not the same. With an L shaped groove on Legendary.

Notice how the lower legs are a completely different mold, do not have the second tire, and also do not appear to rotate like Evasion Mode's legs did for transformation. They transform some other way. Unclear how yet.

Notice how even the backs of the feet are different.

The Gas tanks rotate on Legendary where they don't on Evasion Mode.

If you think Voyager Megatron, and Leader Megatron do not share any detailing, then I don't know what to tell you anymore.

Even with all of these changes, this figure still has way to much in common with the Evasion to be a new mold. If this is a new mold, than the Wei Jiang version can't be called a KO either.

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980270)
Posted by Octobotimus on August 23rd, 2018 @ 7:10pm CDT

agreed.

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980271)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 23rd, 2018 @ 7:16pm CDT

Oh for ducks sake.

firstly, snip the quotes dammit

Secondly, it may share most of the transformation, and that new transformation may be similar to what Wei Jang did with their version, but it still counts as a new mold. It shares ideas like Starscream in DotM and SS, but it is a new mold. Nothing is cast from the same damn mold.

This also means Wei Jang is a new mold with basis in another mold. But it is unofficial, so it gets casually tossed in with KOs, and rightfully so.

There was a conversation similar to this about some 3P MPs and Takara ones a year or 2 back, watching a user argue for 5 fudging pages that takara ripped of a KO, but they are using the same tech to get the same results so of course they will be similar.

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980294)
Posted by autobot00 on August 23rd, 2018 @ 9:29pm CDT

so when was master piece hound announced?

that is hound in the group shot of MP's isnt it?

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980295)
Posted by Octobotimus on August 23rd, 2018 @ 9:33pm CDT

autobot00 wrote:so when was master piece hound announced?

that is hound in the group shot of MP's isnt it?

around a week or so ago.

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980306)
Posted by william-james88 on August 23rd, 2018 @ 10:58pm CDT

Octobotimus wrote:if you own the mold, please, transform it a couple times and compare it to the pics of this guy. it transformers the same, the truck is the same, the arms have not been fixed (as in the elbows are the same) its planely obvious.... if this considered a new mold then weijang's optimus shouldn't be called a KO either. since that clearly had the same if not more changes compared to this "new" mold.

What is the biggest river in Egypt?

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980308)
Posted by Octobotimus on August 23rd, 2018 @ 11:14pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Octobotimus wrote:if you own the mold, please, transform it a couple times and compare it to the pics of this guy. it transformers the same, the truck is the same, the arms have not been fixed (as in the elbows are the same) its planely obvious.... if this considered a new mold then weijang's optimus shouldn't be called a KO either. since that clearly had the same if not more changes compared to this "new" mold.

What is the biggest river in Egypt?

The Nile..... are you seriously resulting to trying to insult my intelligence and or age? and here i thought this wasn't the youtube comment section... seriously guys, when arguing about a transformer figure, don't insult the other person... especially over a toy.....

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980312)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 23rd, 2018 @ 11:54pm CDT

Octobotimus wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Octobotimus wrote:if you own the mold, please, transform it a couple times and compare it to the pics of this guy. it transformers the same, the truck is the same, the arms have not been fixed (as in the elbows are the same) its planely obvious.... if this considered a new mold then weijang's optimus shouldn't be called a KO either. since that clearly had the same if not more changes compared to this "new" mold.

What is the biggest river in Egypt?

The Nile..... are you seriously resulting to trying to insult my intelligence and or age? and here i thought this wasn't the youtube comment section... seriously guys, when arguing about a transformer figure, don't insult the other person... especially over a toy.....

I might also suggest that you accept you were wrong, admit defeat, and stop trying to antagonize everyone who did more than their fair share giving you the burden of proof to refute your "upsizing the AoE mold" theory. Also, it would help you to do a little bit of studying on how the toy industry actually works, particularly how these toys are really made (not to mention what makes something a knock-off).

Re: High Quality Figure King Magazine Scans Featuring Studio Series, POTP Inferno and MP BW Megatron (1980313)
Posted by Octobotimus on August 24th, 2018 @ 12:02am CDT

I will not back down from something simply because everyone is threatening me and think i'm wrong. i'll believe in what i want and you will believe in what you want. sorry that expressing my opinions on a figure came off as antagonizing, not like others were insulting me or anything...

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