IDW Optimus Prime #11 Review
Wednesday, October 11th, 2017 11:34AM CDT
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A Seibertron.com review of IDW Optimus Prime #11
Synposis
With Optimus Prime embroiled in the FIRST STRIKE event, the Autobots on Earth set off on a mission to find one of their own—before anti-Cybertronian humans get to him first!
Story
Arriving a smidgen late, we finally catch back up with the Optimus Prime cast who are on Earth, while the title character has been involved with the First Strike event, which is shown to kick off this issue to our characters.
And overall, we definitely had some good content to the issue. I appreciated the way things were handled leading up to the first explosion on Cybertron and then the loss of communications, with appropriate reactions from everyone present on Earth. I also liked the way we got the small colonists team to assemble and head off, and this group provides us with some great insights into the current Optimus Prime and how he is perceived.
The in-fighting of the group has some interesting moments that I appreciated, with Slide still holding a massive grudge, Aileron showing the signs that she no longer believes in the Prime, and the other colonists starting to question themselves and everything happening as well. Considering everything that has happened in this book so far, and with the IDW world concerning Earth as a whole, I feel everything here is real, believable, and overall provides some great tension to the book, enough so to keep interest in the book and to keep a good pace going. A lot happened in the book, with First Strike, Earth and Cybertron reactions, the C team, and the Jazz and Cybertronian weapons storylines. There was a lot of material tied together with appropriate character tension and a very good pace.
One final note to the story: the cameos are brilliant in this story. I loved that we got both positive, negative, and neutral perspectives from so many characters in this story. And the character choices were pretty great too. Dirge finally showing back up, Serena Bharwaney after all this time, some more Jimmy Pink (wonder when he and Verity will meet again? No reason why they shouldn't), the Action Man program, and many others. 3 pages were dedicated to interviews/cameos, and they contributed to the story without holding it down and while still provided us with some great catch up moments for some of these characters.
Art
Now while the story side of the issue was pretty great, the art is where this issue gets some points deducted. The story made things fairly good to follow, but the art was hard to follow. There were 4 artists who worked on this issue, with Sara Pitre-Durocher handling the majority, covering the first 8 pages. Fico Ossio, the artist of Revolution, covered 5 pages, while regular series artist Kei Zama covered 3 pages and artist Paolo Villanelli covered 4 pages.
While all 4 are very capable artists, the differences in styles were really jarring for the issue, and at times confusing. The first 8 pages under Pitre-Durocher were really well handled, with everything fitting in right, well drawn characters, and good expressions. the 3 pages featuring the interviews were done by Zama, and those 3 pages were covered very well too. I enjoy Zama's art, especially with Burcham doing the coloring, and those pages really shined. And those 8 pages of continuity and the 3 pages of interviews were the only real smooth part of the art, and it didn't help that the interview pages were all separated by several pages.
Ossio did his best, but I am still not a fan of his art with the Transformers style, especially with the faces. Slide especially seems to suffer in this department, which is unfortunate considering her major role in the story. It also did not help that Ossio's art was broken up by a Zama page. Villanelli did his level best, and he got off a little better considering his art was for the last 4 pages, but his style was a good bit different from Ossio's, who immediately preceded him. His art also felt a bit plain, with very sort of flat and featureless expressions and styles for his Autobots.
Throughout the whole issue, Josh Burcham provided colors, and he did his level best to keep things running smoothly. I've always been a fan of Burcham's work, and the fact that his colors work with 4 quite different artistic styles and still look good are a testament to his abilities.
Tom B. Long once more tackles the lettering, and once again we are not disappointed. He does a great job with the different speech tones and speech positioning, making sure never to block any potentially important part of the art and letting us really enjoy it while keeping the speech space to a minimum.
Final Thoughts
This issue of Optimus Prime was overall a good experience. While it wasn't the best issue to write home about, it set the groundwork for the First Strike crossover (already underway), it set up a good story about the colonists and their relation with Prime, and it got a lot accomplished making sure everything First Strike related was ready. There was a lot happening, yet the issue was not overcrowded or rushed. Pacing was perfect. The real thing holding the issue back was the combination of artists and the differing styles making visuals a bit harder to follow, but coloring managed to mitigate that as best it could.
In conclusion: pretty good story with some interesting character directions set and some great interactions between characters of all races and factions. I am excited to see how this arc continues with Jazz, the colonists, and Prime.
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Posted by Daniel Adkins on October 11th, 2017 @ 12:33pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 11th, 2017 @ 12:36pm CDT
Daniel Adkins wrote:I love how they established a living descendant to John Henry from Hearts of Steel. Hope he isn't just a one-off character.
i liked that too. Had to throw that in there after Hearts of Steel became canon
Posted by Randomhero on October 11th, 2017 @ 4:20pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 12th, 2017 @ 11:26am CDT
Posted by ScottyP on October 12th, 2017 @ 11:52am CDT
As for Aileron, I need to go find an image. Bbl.
Posted by Randomhero on October 12th, 2017 @ 12:45pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:I've seen complaining here and elsewhere about the characterization of the colonists so far in this book, and I think some impatience is happening. They've barely been around until this issue and this is the surface of breaking them out of their one dimensional starting point as religious zealots. Give it time!
As for Aileron, I need to go find an image. Bbl.
Slide has been complaining and singing the same song since issue 6. It just comes down to "if you don't believe in why you're here anymore than why are you here?" That's the question to ask. This isn't like pyra manga who shares the same ideas toward Optimus, she's there because she wants the matrix.
She gets ticked they they bury Oiler on New Cybertron but doesn't stop them. Sideswipe was taken back to Cybertron to be buried or whatever they do with their dead and yet Oiler is buried on earth and she just complains about it
Posted by Va'al on October 12th, 2017 @ 12:59pm CDT
As Scotty says, this is the beginning of their actual development since that disillusion happened, and I feel that the complaints (from Slide, not about him) were the bookmark from Barber to come back to the point once he had the space to write more about them without involving the entire Hasbro Universe.
Posted by Randomhero on October 12th, 2017 @ 3:10pm CDT
Va'al wrote:But Slide has every right about feeling torn apart by her disillusion.
As Scotty says, this is the beginning of their actual development since that disillusion happened, and I feel that the complaints (from Slide, not about him) were the bookmark from Barber to come back to the point once he had the space to write more about them without involving the entire Hasbro Universe.
True but this also isn't the first time in johns book where people stand around and complain about someone's views and leadership -COUGH METALHAWK-COUGH BUMBLEBEE-COUGH-
For me it's just the first year of RID again withthe nails standing around complaining.
For a better way of handling people doubting Optimus would have been Slide actually leaving and breaking up the colonist autobots. She Yoko Onos the group and seeing one of their own lose complete faith and abandon their cause. For me that's more compelling because like i said I don't know why she is still there other than to be a negative Nancy
Posted by RacerCheetor on October 14th, 2017 @ 5:13am CDT
Posted by Kurona on October 14th, 2017 @ 8:54am CDT
Yup! They're part of the little rag-tag group of characters that make up the colonists; being fairly obscure characters from all corners of the franchise. You've got Gimlet and Bump - like you said - from Japanese BW, Rail Racer from RiD, Slide (and previously Oiler) from the G1 Micromaster Combiners, and Roulette from 2003's OTFCC (essentially the Botcon of back then).
Posted by WreckerJack on October 19th, 2017 @ 7:08pm CDT
Description
With Optimus Prime trapped on Cybertron, the Autobots track down their missing friend, Jazz—and find themselves under fire from humans armed with Cybertronian weapons!
If you are a fan of TF comics and live in the UK, James Roberts and Jack Lawrence will be doing an autograph signing!
Posted by Randomhero on October 19th, 2017 @ 7:59pm CDT
It's funny to see slugslingers little titan master arms on the side of his head. He's not a Titan master obviously but it's funny to see
Posted by SG Roadbuster on October 19th, 2017 @ 8:15pm CDT
d'awwwwwwww Buzzsaw.
Posted by President-prime on October 19th, 2017 @ 8:34pm CDT
Posted by President-prime on October 19th, 2017 @ 8:35pm CDT
Posted by Twitchythe3rd on October 19th, 2017 @ 8:47pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on October 20th, 2017 @ 5:07am CDT
I honestly think this is my favourite TF book now. Though I might be biased since we're back to the Decepticon Colony; one of my favourite parts of the OP side of things -- and especially that we're there with Thundercracker and Cosmos, who I love with all my heart
Posted by Randomhero on October 20th, 2017 @ 7:02am CDT
Kurona wrote:"Master of Targets". Hah! Cute.
I honestly think this is my favourite TF book now. Though I might be biased since we're back to the Decepticon Colony; one of my favourite parts of the OP side of things -- and especially that we're there with Thundercracker and Cosmos, who I love with all my heart
I very much agree. I enjoy the situations in OP but even I'm starting to feel it's getting stale and while I don't want the war to return I want to see more Decepticons than Soundwave especially if we're not gonna get a scene of Optimus apologizing for full blown blackmailing him. THAT NEEDS YO HAPPEN! They're friends now and Soundwave is without announcing it his second in command.
Plus I'm still waiting for Galvatrons return. His head is still somewhere and I still don't believe he was ever alive. He came out of the Dead Universe and could always survive out of it and theres never been any indications that he came back fully alive so I think he'll be back.
Posted by Va'al on October 29th, 2017 @ 3:28am CDT
New threats emerge, both on Cybertron and Earth, as the saga of Optimus Prime and the Autobots continues. What new future will the Transformers face?
With Optimus Prime trapped on Cybertron, embroiled in the First Strike event, the Autobots on Earth set off on a mission to find their missing friend, Jazz. But anti-Cybertronian humans are after him as well, and they're armed with Cybertronian weapons!
Then, in the wake of First Strike, Optimus ventures into the wilderness of Cybertron to search for the first new Cybertronian life to emerge in four million years! And, as if that's not enough to deal with, he soon finds himself facing off with the Dinobots, whose newest member is two miles tall and eats cities!
Collects Transformers: Optimus Prime issues #11-14 and the Optimus Prime: First Strike and Transformers: First Strike one-shots.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 30th, 2017 @ 10:07am CDT
Posted by Va'al on October 30th, 2017 @ 10:51am CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I'm wondering why they used that cover for the TPB. It doesn't really look connected to the IDW-verse
Looks good on a shelf though!
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 30th, 2017 @ 10:57am CDT
Va'al wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I'm wondering why they used that cover for the TPB. It doesn't really look connected to the IDW-verse
Looks good on a shelf though!
Eh, true. But a cover with the throttlebots or dino/trypticons would have looked good too!
Posted by Va'al on October 31st, 2017 @ 3:35am CDT
Written by John Barber
Illustrated by Andrew Griffith
Colored by Josh Burcham
Lettered by Tom B. Long
With Optimus Prime trapped on Cybertron, the Autobots track down their missing friend, Jazz-and find themselves under fire from humans armed with Cybertronian weapons.
Bullet points:
* While First Strike blows up Cybertron, the Autobots must keep the peace on Earth!
Posted by Kurona on October 31st, 2017 @ 9:01am CDT
Posted by Va'al on November 1st, 2017 @ 9:32am CDT
(Spoiler free-ish)
Synopsis
With Optimus Prime trapped on Cybertron, the Autobots track down their missing friend, Jazz—and find themselves under fire from humans armed with Cybertronian weapons!
Story
This 12th issue brings us to the second part of a shorter arc dealing with everyone but Optimus Prime himself, too busy being patronised by Windblade and Scarlett over in First Strike (rather than Aileron and Pyra Magna on Earth, so same difference really. He deserves it). And so we return to the Prime fanclub that might be, and the search for Jazz.
I'll say it: Jazz is one of the better written characters in John Barber's arsenal. He's determined if conflicted, has been present in this universe since the very beginning, and has a long history with pretty much all sides of the war. Even in Aileron's narration, a newcomer to it all, Jazz truly takes the spotlight in the issue.
The colonists part of the central story are extremely fun to follow, but there is some criticism that I'd move against their still fairly by the numbers characterisation, with only spikes of added layers to their individuality. Still, Aileron's control over them and their clashing/collaboration work, and lead to a bigger question about the whole set-up..
..did Optimus really need to include Earth in the Council after all? This is still the bigger question floating above the rest, even when trying to avoid it. But if Jazz, Aileron, and a random assortment can manage the 'defense', there was no real need for the theatrical political move of war general Optimus - something Barber asks subtly, and appropriately.
Art
Seeing Andrew Griffith back at work with John Barber is a nice feeling indeed, and brings a sense of familiarity even in this post-Cybertronian war, post-AHO Earthern setting. The designs and work that he brings back to the scenes, including some nifty action sequences, reminds us of how much he set the tone for exRID and Transformers, and it's good to have some of it drop back in here.
The highlight of the visual side of this issue, and confirming it as the series overall, is Josh Burcham's colourwork - his ability to maintain a visual consistency and coherence even across several artists (four and counting so far) is impressive and inspiring, and does wonders with keeping the book in line with its own newly found aesthetic.
Tom B. Long is easily another element of continuity for the series, and I'm so very glad that lettering is recognised as being an integral part of the book production - the reason for, e.g. the Buzzsaw and Laserbeak moments is making the jokes land by actual, accurate dialogue placement, among everything else. The cover used for the thumbnail is also by Andrew Griffith, with Josh Perez on colours, after all the others have been spotlighted across news stories - you can find them all Database entry for the issue of course, right here.
Thoughts
Spoilerish ahead
On staff, one of the comments was that Barber's script for the issue has been able to veer enough away from the current events to bring us back to an Earth we might all recognise from pre-AHM times, and it is perhaps a needed anchor for the cast and readership alike, even with all the recent additions. Plus, it adds the whole wave of human reactions to the fray, which may help readers see what the legacy of Transformers actually is on the planet.
If some of the beats might appear heavy handed for real-life parallels, the script still allows for subtlety in its dealing with Prime's absence - metaphorically and literally - and how the various characters orbiting his system (Aileron above all, but Jazz and the rest of the crew too) relate to each other and the issues at hand. The story may appear 'uneventful' even in its busyness, but it keeps saying a lot about the new, universal status quo.
Posted by Va'al on November 1st, 2017 @ 9:34am CDT
Posted by ScottyP on November 1st, 2017 @ 1:06pm CDT
My real thoughts got assimilated into the review already so I don't have much else to say here.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 2nd, 2017 @ 10:06am CDT
And it basically dates back to Combiner Wars and the immediate aftermath. I really wish they would revisit the whole "what does combining do to the individuals" considering there were a few notable instances and some that showed no effect of the experience, and Prime is the big one to show it. He's more ruthless and much more of a prick. Hell, he told Cosmos he wanted Soundwave to bow to him. He punched Prowl down, killed Galvatron brutally and when he was defeated, the whole line in issue 4 or 5 where he said he is using the people who believe him to be divine, the fact that Cosmos is only listed as an ally of the Autobots instead of being an Autobot, Jazz and Windblade among others no longer want to know him, it all feels a bit much. And I don't really like it too much.
Mopey Prime from RG1 was better in that regard because he wasn't really a prick and there was understanding and he sort of redeemed all that (I've been reading the series lately again, really enjoyed it and still do), but this one... He's a Prime/Prowl thing now that I don't like. And it's not like Sunstreaker, Mirage, or Ironhide show symptoms of having combined, it's only Prime from that experience and Prowl, but only because he did it for longer with different teams. Hell, the only thing that happened to the OP Max guys, Sky Reigns, or Galvas were Sunstreaker and TC are now friends.
Long story short: I don't like the direction Optimus as a character is going at the moment, and things like the titan raising keep him looking like a good guy.
On a different note, when do we think we'll get to Springer, Impactor, and Mayhem again. Springer is loose on Earth with Verity, happily at peace, and Impactor and Mayhem were planning to do some stuff. Considering throttlebots, Trypticon, and Unicron are all on the horizon, do we think Wreckers and Mayhem may get involved again?
And has everyone in this book forgotten about Prowl? I want to hear from him again at some point
Posted by snavej on November 2nd, 2017 @ 12:59pm CDT
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... full-data/
This issue is all about gun control, after all.
Posted by Burn on November 2nd, 2017 @ 3:39pm CDT
snavej wrote:Just think how much more serious the mass shootings would be with 'space guns' all over the US and beyond!
Dude, seriously ... wtf?
Posted by ScottyP on November 3rd, 2017 @ 11:24am CDT
Optimus was a micromanaging war commander, one of his similarities to Megatron as we learn in Chaos Theory. He's also been shown to be more on the side of a conformed, though just, society where enforcement is critical. After "Chaos" and DoOP, dude was tired. Done. Ready to move on. Through one event or mishap or another, he's been put right back in this position of command again, and trying to apply tactics that worked before. The rules have changed now, and he's behind the curve. There's not only too much new for him to process at once, there are voices like the colonists and A3 telling him how great he still is. OP is, to me, completely blind to the growing disdain around him. Phase 2 started with him realizing he was representative of another time, so he left. Now we're finding out the hell that happens when he sticks around, despite his best intentions.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Long story short: I don't like the direction Optimus as a character is going at the moment, and things like the titan raising keep him looking like a good guy.
On a different note, when do we think we'll get to Springer, Impactor, and Mayhem again. Springer is loose on Earth with Verity, happily at peace, and Impactor and Mayhem were planning to do some stuff. Considering throttlebots, Trypticon, and Unicron are all on the horizon, do we think Wreckers and Mayhem may get involved again?
And has everyone in this book forgotten about Prowl? I want to hear from him again at some point
Also, yes, please, the Wreckers/Springer/Prowlspiracy plot is in desparate need of some attention.
Posted by Kurona on November 3rd, 2017 @ 1:21pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:Optimus was a micromanaging war commander, one of his similarities to Megatron as we learn in Chaos Theory. He's also been shown to be more on the side of a conformed, though just, society where enforcement is critical. After "Chaos" and DoOP, dude was tired. Done. Ready to move on. Through one event or mishap or another, he's been put right back in this position of command again, and trying to apply tactics that worked before. The rules have changed now, and he's behind the curve. There's not only too much new for him to process at once, there are voices like the colonists and A3 telling him how great he still is. OP is, to me, completely blind to the growing disdain around him. Phase 2 started with him realizing he was representative of another time, so he left. Now we're finding out the hell that happens when he sticks around, despite his best intentions.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Long story short: I don't like the direction Optimus as a character is going at the moment, and things like the titan raising keep him looking like a good guy.
On a different note, when do we think we'll get to Springer, Impactor, and Mayhem again. Springer is loose on Earth with Verity, happily at peace, and Impactor and Mayhem were planning to do some stuff. Considering throttlebots, Trypticon, and Unicron are all on the horizon, do we think Wreckers and Mayhem may get involved again?
And has everyone in this book forgotten about Prowl? I want to hear from him again at some point
And by god, do I also love that from a meta perspective. How a refusal to move on and completely rely on the old will land you in a bit of a mess. But also that that's what this franchise keeps doing; it keeps bringing back and relying on Optimus and Bumblebee and yadda yadda. IDW has to keep Optimus Prime in the spotlight because, well, he's Optimus friggin' Prime; so part of me can't help but think this is Barber being a bit cheeky
Posted by Tyrannacon on November 9th, 2017 @ 8:42am CST
Description
As the consequences of the First Strike event reverberate, Optimus Prime ventures into the wilderness of Cybertron to search for the first new Cybertronian life to emerge in four million years!
Category: Graphic Novels
Expected Release: 22 November 2017
Publisher: IDW Publishing
Seller: Idea and Design Works, LLC
Print Length: 31 Pages
Language: English
Here is the screen shot preview for it:
Posted by MrBlack on November 9th, 2017 @ 10:18am CST
Posted by Optimutt on November 9th, 2017 @ 10:19am CST
Posted by ScottyP on November 9th, 2017 @ 10:55am CST
Additionally, let the speculation commence on whether the Botanica mention is a joke or something more. I'll go with "Regen One Retcon" in a scale from "Joke" to "Botanica becomes the main character".
Posted by Randomhero on November 9th, 2017 @ 1:02pm CST
ScottyP wrote:Really caught off guard by how engaging these three pages are. Very excited for upcoming issues, now I'm impatient to read just the rest of this one.
Additionally, let the speculation commence on whether the Botanica mention is a joke or something more. I'll go with "Regen One Retcon" in a scale from "Joke" to "Botanica becomes the main character".
Or it’s neither and just a reference
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 9th, 2017 @ 2:51pm CST
Speaking of which, where is the 6th throttlebot?
Posted by ScottyP on November 9th, 2017 @ 4:54pm CST
I'm giving you a "no fun" on a scale from "literal charisma parasite" to "parties so hard it's guaranteed to be worth the jail time"Randomhero wrote:ScottyP wrote:Really caught off guard by how engaging these three pages are. Very excited for upcoming issues, now I'm impatient to read just the rest of this one.
Additionally, let the speculation commence on whether the Botanica mention is a joke or something more. I'll go with "Regen One Retcon" in a scale from "Joke" to "Botanica becomes the main character".
Or it’s neither and just a reference
Yes though, it probably is just using it for the sake of it. Was hoping that came across but I suppose not.
Posted by ricemazter on November 9th, 2017 @ 5:24pm CST
Posted by Shockwave 8 on November 9th, 2017 @ 8:40pm CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I'm sad they are saying 2 of the Throttlebots bit it. I thought they would live.
Speaking of which, where is the 6th throttlebot?
Goldbug mentions that "Searchlight keeps watching the skies," and a panel shows him briefly. It was hard for me to pick him out at first too. He is supposed to be the reclusive one, so it makes sense that he would be keeping lookout alone while the others are talking.
Posted by Flashwave on November 10th, 2017 @ 12:46am CST
HOLY HANDLEBARS I wanna read a story about THROTTLEBOTS. Way to go, IDW for making a throwaway gimmick team into (potentially) interesting story.
I am excited about where this could go. Especially whwm the Tjrottlebots find outbthe Autobots won amd just didnt come for them.
Even though I am tiring of Disillusionment Prime.
Posted by Va'al on November 21st, 2017 @ 4:42am CST
Check out the full works on Optimus Prime #13 below, and join us again after the book is released on Wednesday for a Seibertron.com review, an inevitable discussion, and more, all in the Energon Pub discussion boards.
Optimus Prime #13
John Barber (w) • Livio Ramondelli (a) • Kei Zama (c)
As the consequences of the First Strike event reverberate, Optimus Prime ventures into the wilderness of Cybertron to search for the first new Cybertronian life to emerge in four million years!
FC • 32 pages • $3.99
Bullet points:
Optimus Prime deals with the fallout of the First Strike event!
Variant cover by Livio Ramondelli!
Posted by Randomhero on November 21st, 2017 @ 6:17am CST
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone, and another one gone
Another one bites the dust
Posted by ScottyP on November 21st, 2017 @ 8:19am CST
Posted by Big Grim on November 21st, 2017 @ 9:00am CST
Posted by Daniel Adkins on November 21st, 2017 @ 9:18am CST
Oh, and just a heads up, John Barber revealed two other characters who will finally be making their return in this issue on the newest episode of Action and Adventure: The Hasbro Universe Podcast. http://hasbrouniverse.libsyn.com/episod ... -never-die
Posted by ScottyP on November 21st, 2017 @ 10:07am CST
Update: yep, it's Drancron: https://twitter.com/LivioRamondelli/sta ... 5655490562ScottyP wrote:Up and to the right behind Hydra - is that Drancron?
Jumping waaaaay ahead here, but if they manage to use beasts as Unicronian heralds like in BW II and Armada that will be awesome
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 21st, 2017 @ 10:16am CST
ScottyP wrote:Update: yep, it's Drancron: https://twitter.com/LivioRamondelli/sta ... 5655490562ScottyP wrote:Up and to the right behind Hydra - is that Drancron?
Jumping waaaaay ahead here, but if they manage to use beasts as Unicronian heralds like in BW II and Armada that will be awesome
But what if they are the coming of Onyx instead? We know he's coming next year!
Posted by Randomhero on November 21st, 2017 @ 10:26am CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:ScottyP wrote:Update: yep, it's Drancron: https://twitter.com/LivioRamondelli/sta ... 5655490562ScottyP wrote:Up and to the right behind Hydra - is that Drancron?
Jumping waaaaay ahead here, but if they manage to use beasts as Unicronian heralds like in BW II and Armada that will be awesome
But what if they are the coming of Onyx instead? We know he's coming next year!
My assumption is those are from the sparks front the hotspot the Dinobots and Trypticon took. Dinobots are building their own Dinobots/army/people