John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II

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Not too long ago, there was an interview with John Warden where he spoke about the design work for the upcoming War for Cybertron Siege Omega Supreme. Well now, courtesy of Hasbro Pulse, we have the 2nd part to that interview, which includes some more details on how the figure got all the technical details as well as a size comparison to the Combiner Wars Devastator toy, who is pretty much dwarfed by his rival.

Check it out below!

We’re back with Part 2 of our Hasbro Pulse: Behind the Design with John W. from the Transformers design team. Read on for more designer details on the recently revealed War for Cybertron: Siege – Omega Supreme figure.

Hasbro Pulse:
Between the G1 show, comic books, previous Omega Supreme figures—how did you decide on the design for this figure?

John:
We had a couple of big meetings between Takara Tomy and Hasbro. I still recall a moment when I think Hasui-san came here to the United States and he brought a cut-out standee of the character based on the G1 cartoon style. Fans of the cartoon know that it’s simplistic, with a lot of smooth surfaces, and the proportions are slightly different. They’re subtle, but noticeable differences.

When we looked at that collectively as a team, our pushback was to have more of that concept art feel to it, with a lot more surface details to make it feel sophisticated and detailed, because the rest of the Siege line is covered with lots of little details that aren’t really evident in the G1 cartoon series. Hasui took that information back to Japan and worked with the designer, Kunihiro-san, who is a big fan of putting lots of detail into things – he really ran with this direction. He’s a scale modeler and is one of the original Transformers designers who worked on Star Saber, and some of the legendary characters from the late 80s and early 90s. We blended the world of G1 and the more concept art feel and brought to life this new style that is detailed and has lots of panels and extra pieces that weren’t there before.

One of the biggest challenges from an aesthetic standpoint is how do you not disappoint the G1 fans, but also continue to push the brand forward and keep it in line with the gritty, war-torn story that we’re telling with War for Cybertron: Siege. I’m really happy with the balance that we struck between the two – it hopefully satisfies the G1 fans, but it also pushes us into a cool new place for fans that are starting to collect this new Cybertron universe.

Hasbro Pulse:
Once you’ve decided, “OK, we’re doing a massive two-foot Omega Supreme figure”, what comes next? What’s the process like? How do we get from an idea to final product?

John:
We start with determining scale. How big is it, how big can we afford to do for the price point and still provide a good value to the consumer? What is the list of priority things we want to do? And then Takara Tomy comes back and they provide an early idea of their vision and how it’s going to convert.

Kunihiro would put together loose sketches on graph paper, figuring out all the major geometry of the figure. They come back to us with a proposal of the basic forms and we will provide extra reference on detail. Sometimes we’ll work with commissioned artists from around the world to bring a level of finish to it. Takara will take that and work with their model makers, taking some of the detail illustrations and build it into the 3-D model.

The 3-D model then allows them to test the conversions and identify any part interference. We go back-and-forth on a number of parts, details, and sketch in different areas -- “change this,” “make this piece bigger,” “make this piece smaller.” And then once we’re all in agreement, a gray model is created – this is the exciting part! Takara Tomy will create this literal, gray, one-of-a-kind prototype Transformer and they’ll send us a video – it’s always on this black, rotating platter – and they’ll slowly rotate the figure so we can get a sense of how big it is. With Omega Supreme…he was so big that his feet were hanging off the platter. As it rotates around, they stop the video and show how he converts.

It isn’t until this point that you really get a sense of the mass— you knew how tall he was going to be from the blueprints we had tacked around the office, and an impression of how big all the different elements are. It’s not until you see the designer converting it from robot to space station that you really get the “Wow, that rocket is huge, and that tank is a lot bigger than I thought it would be” feeling and it gives us a chance to see if there’s anything else we want to put into it. From there, they take that model and they create what’s called a final production model, a PT. They’ll take this model, refine it and make sure there’s no interference with the parts and pieces, and will also make sure it meets all the safety requirements

From that point, Takara Tomy puts it into production with the factory and we’ll start to see prototypes coming in. Simultaneously, we work here in our Rhode Island office to create what’s called a deco sheet where we spec out the molded colors, determine how many paint operations there are, and then try to bring that to life.

I work with a model artist here to create a painted prototype. This is the stage when the stars start to align. We’ll send that same deco spec to the factory; the factory will start to generate painted samples and then we’ll start to test out the joints and any QA concerns. We work closely with engineering at this point, to make sure all of the pieces are working properly.

After all this, we then get to reveal the figure to the fan at big events like the Entertainment Brand Preview event this past weekend in New York, and we have a chance to meet with fans and hear what they have to say. And then the whole process begins all over again with a new Titan character!

Hasbro Pulse:
That sounds like a lot of work.

John:
It IS a lot of work! Honestly, it takes months and months to do it, but it’s an incredible job and it’s great to be able to take something you’re passionate about and make toys for fans and work with awesome writers, creatives, engineering teams and stuff. We’re all fans and and we dig it. It’s a great job to do, it’s a ton of work, but it’s incredibly satisfying when a fan comes up to you, and you talk to them for an hour at a convention about how this toy really captures something for them – it is really something special. You come to realize that you’re doing more than just designing toys; you’re creating memories and you’re creating moments for people that they can spend with their kids, or they can spend bringing to life a battle on their shelf. It’s more than just a toy, it’s something so much more. I think that’s what I like so much about it.

This has been Hasbro Pulse: Behind the Design with John W. Hope you enjoyed this deep dive into the War for Cybertron: Siege Omega Supreme figure.

Credit(s): Hasbro Pulse

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Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015761)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 23rd, 2019 @ 7:39pm CDT

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Well now, courtesy of Hasbro Pulse, we have the 2nd part to that interview, which includes some more details on how the figure got all the technical details as well as a size comparison to the Combiner Wars Devastator toy, who is pretty much dwarfed by his rival.

I wouldn't say that Omega Supreme "dwarfs" Devastator. He's just about a head taller, really. The height measurement of 24 inches that Hasbro is advertising is obviously referring to the wings on the back, which add a few inches in height. In terms of cartoon scale, again, looking at the height of the heads, this is actually pretty spot on.

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015772)
Posted by Beachjezus on March 23rd, 2019 @ 10:26pm CDT

Totally agree. Personally, I think the scaling is perfect!

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015775)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 23rd, 2019 @ 10:31pm CDT

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

It's a really minor thing, but for displays, I really love that you can attach explosion pieces on the roads

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015783)
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on March 24th, 2019 @ 12:14am CDT

Wolfman Jake wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Well now, courtesy of Hasbro Pulse, we have the 2nd part to that interview, which includes some more details on how the figure got all the technical details as well as a size comparison to the Combiner Wars Devastator toy, who is pretty much dwarfed by his rival.

I wouldn't say that Omega Supreme "dwarfs" Devastator. He's just about a head taller, really. The height measurement of 24 inches that Hasbro is advertising is obviously referring to the wings on the back, which add a few inches in height. In terms of cartoon scale, again, looking at the height of the heads, this is actually pretty spot on.

Looks like it will scale well with my Jinbao Devastator.

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015785)
Posted by Emerje on March 24th, 2019 @ 1:00am CDT

Omega is going to look even nicer next to the better colored UW Devastator. =P~

I work with a model artist here to create a painted prototype.

So glad he said this. There's certain people that would insist that once the figure gets to this point it's no longer a prototype, but they absolutely are, everything pre-production is. Warden saying it himself makes me feel a little vindicated.

Emerje

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015790)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 24th, 2019 @ 3:54am CDT

I want omega but I just haven't got the space

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015792)
Posted by Windsweeper on March 24th, 2019 @ 4:31am CDT

carytheone wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:Soundwave is one of the better Generations figures made in a long time.
I had a lot of fun tinkering with his lamp post mode.

I could never settle on anything else to do with his arms, but I did change the legs up from the official configuration. Speaking of, lamp post mode is an intended bonus as there are pegs that hold his arms only in this mode.

Is the lamp post mode official? I have to admit I'm liking it.

william-james88 wrote::shock:

How?...What?...How?
Three excellent questions.

Caelus wrote:
Black Hat wrote:So here's a funny question- what non-Siege figures do you guys think would "supplement" this line well? I can actually see a lot of the old BM Vehicon toys making very good cannon fodder (for either side with some stickers, depending on individual colours and designs).

I can confirm that this is true, and its the primary reason I went on a Vehicon ebay-shopping spree after Christmas. Mega-class Tankors look great with Siege Megatron. Deluxe Jetstorms look cool with Shockwave if you can put them all on flight stands.

Also a cool looking display combo:
1 Siege Megatron
2 Cybertron Sideways
3 BM Tankors
6 Cybertron Scrapmetal Drones
1 PotP Predaking

I do love the Cybertron Scrap Metals. I think they work nicely as Cybertronian wildlife.

I also like to use other figures with Cybertronian modes to add to the Siege cast...

Cybertron red Starscream repurposed as Thrust.
CHUG Voyager Dirge.
Botcon Dreadwind.
CHUG Treadbolt.
Botcon Treadshot.
CHUG Warpath.
Cybertron Vector Prime.
Energon Omega Supreme.
CHUG Trailbreaker.
CHUG Cyclonus.
TR Sixshot.
TR Overlord.
TR Black Shadow.
TR Quake.
TR Soundwave.
Takara Legends Hardhead.
Takara Legends Blurr.
Bumblebee Frenzy.
Bumblebee Howlback.
G1 Scourge.
POTP Outback.
WFC Jazz.
Fansproject Wildrider.
Prime Vehicons.

Anyway, you get the idea.

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015795)
Posted by Giant Purple Griffin on March 24th, 2019 @ 6:28am CDT

Lamp post mode is revealed on the box with a black light. There was a news article here about it a while back. It is definitely official.

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015798)
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on March 24th, 2019 @ 9:42am CDT

william-james88 wrote::shock:

H- What? Combiner limbs? Wh- how? When? Bu- wha- ho- why? WHAT!?

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015805)
Posted by william-james88 on March 24th, 2019 @ 11:13am CDT

Great news, Siege leader Cybertron Optimus Prime has been found in the US. he was found at a Walmart in Midland, MI. This toy is a heavy retool of leader Ultra Magnus. The figure's actual name is Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime, meaning this is still technically a G1 Optimus Prime figure, simply in an upgraded form, but that is merely the toy's bio and most fans see this as a Classics version of Cybertron / Galaxy Force Optimus Prime.

He retails for just shy of $50 USD. This sighting was sent to us by Manleybot who also spotted the latest Siege voyagers, Soundwave and Starscream, as well as the latest G1 minibot reissues, Warpath and Gears.

If you have found any of these, share your sightings with our community in the sightings section and on our boards in your region related thread.

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015816)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 24th, 2019 @ 1:43pm CDT

Decepticon Stryker wrote:
william-james88 wrote::shock:

H- What? Combiner limbs? Wh- how? When? Bu- wha- ho- why? WHAT!?

We're getting two it looks like: Greenlight and Lancer, but exclusives and based on PotP Moonracer/Novastar. They go with Elita-1 to form Orthia instead of the mixed Elita-Infin1te.

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015819)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on March 24th, 2019 @ 2:02pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:Great news, Siege Leader Cybertron Optimus Prime has been found in the US. he was found at a Walmart in Midland, MI. This toy is a heavy retool of leader Ultra Magnus. The figure's actual name is Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime, meaning this is still technically a G1 Optimus Prime figure, simply in an upgraded form, but that is merely the toy's bio and most fans see this as a Classics version of Cybertron / Galaxy Force Optimus Prime.

he retails for just shy of $50 USD. This sighting was sent to us by Manleybot who also spotted the latest Siege voyagers, Soundwave and Starscream, as well as the latest G1 minibot reissues, Warpath and Gears.

If you have found any of these, share your sightings with our community in the sightings section and on our boards in your region related thread.

WHAT. That's...out of order for one thing, which bothers me slightly, but also he's here already?! Aren't the preorders for him due in July?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Decepticon Stryker wrote:
william-james88 wrote::shock:

H- What? Combiner limbs? Wh- how? When? Bu- wha- ho- why? WHAT!?

We're getting two it looks like: Greenlight and Lancer, but exclusives and based on PotP Moonracer/Novastar. They go with Elita-1 to form Orthia instead of the mixed Elita-Infin1te.

I think he was expressing confusion over how those CW boys were incorporated into that "Maximus Magnus", not anything about the line's releases.

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015825)
Posted by Omegatron. on March 24th, 2019 @ 2:53pm CDT

Nemesis Primal wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Decepticon Stryker wrote:
william-james88 wrote::shock:

H- What? Combiner limbs? Wh- how? When? Bu- wha- ho- why? WHAT!?

We're getting two it looks like: Greenlight and Lancer, but exclusives and based on PotP Moonracer/Novastar. They go with Elita-1 to form Orthia instead of the mixed Elita-Infin1te.

I think he was expressing confusion over how those CW boys were incorporated into that "Maximus Magnus", not anything about the line's releases.

Turns out, Combiner Wars combiner pegs fit very snugly into the prime master sockets of POTP combiner hands, so your combiner limbs are now 5mm compatible.

20190324_195635.jpg

(I don't know why that image is sideways)

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015828)
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on March 24th, 2019 @ 3:26pm CDT

Omegatron. wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Decepticon Stryker wrote:
william-james88 wrote::shock:

H- What? Combiner limbs? Wh- how? When? Bu- wha- ho- why? WHAT!?

We're getting two it looks like: Greenlight and Lancer, but exclusives and based on PotP Moonracer/Novastar. They go with Elita-1 to form Orthia instead of the mixed Elita-Infin1te.

I think he was expressing confusion over how those CW boys were incorporated into that "Maximus Magnus", not anything about the line's releases.

Turns out, Combiner Wars combiner pegs fit very snugly into the prime master sockets of POTP combiner hands, so your combiner limbs are now 5mm compatible.

20190324_195635.jpg

(I don't know why that image is sideways)

Oh boy I do love chaos with 5mm pegs. I think I'm going to have to get an extra Cog now that I know I can make combiner limbs 5mm compatible.

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015837)
Posted by bvzxa on March 24th, 2019 @ 6:03pm CDT

Just Got Leader Ultra Magnus...this must be a revision in the cases. Cool I will try to find one ASAP. Seeing how the base model Prime is in the IDW comic I want I want I want!!!

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015846)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 24th, 2019 @ 6:37pm CDT

Wolfman Jake wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Well now, courtesy of Hasbro Pulse, we have the 2nd part to that interview, which includes some more details on how the figure got all the technical details as well as a size comparison to the Combiner Wars Devastator toy, who is pretty much dwarfed by his rival.

I wouldn't say that Omega Supreme "dwarfs" Devastator. He's just about a head taller, really. The height measurement of 24 inches that Hasbro is advertising is obviously referring to the wings on the back, which add a few inches in height. In terms of cartoon scale, again, looking at the height of the heads, this is actually pretty spot on.

Have you seen the bulk to Omega? It's not just the height difference, which is about 6" to the top of his rails, but also how much more bulky he is.

And dang, Galaxy Prime out already. He's like 3 or 4 months early

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015853)
Posted by DeathReviews on March 24th, 2019 @ 7:03pm CDT

I found Soundwave and Starscream in a Walmart near my realm. But not "Galaxy" Optimus. Given all the other OP's I've had to review so far, I'd just as soon take a break from him for a while.

And yeah - I don't classify Omega Supreme's wing-dings as being part of his 'height'. Otherwise, I could make TR Trypticon even taller than Omega by taking the tower/backpack section, extending the guns from them, and turning them so they point up.

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015855)
Posted by Ravage2031 on March 24th, 2019 @ 7:19pm CDT

If I find him in store I'll buy him and not wait for the July 1st pre order. Unless you think Pulse and Amazon will have Prime in earlier.

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015858)
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on March 24th, 2019 @ 7:38pm CDT

I got Sixshot today. Haven’t messed with the weaponizer gimmick yet, but he makes an awesome Goblin Glider.

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015859)
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on March 24th, 2019 @ 8:01pm CDT

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:I got Sixshot today. Haven’t messed with the weaponizer gimmick yet, but he makes an awesome Goblin Glider.

I think you mean Sixgun. Sorry for correcting you

When you have a chance to utilize his weaponizer gimmick, post some pics, I'd love to see those

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015861)
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on March 24th, 2019 @ 8:07pm CDT

Nathaniel Prime wrote:
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:I got Sixshot today. Haven’t messed with the weaponizer gimmick yet, but he makes an awesome Goblin Glider.

I think you mean Sixgun. Sorry for correcting you

When you have a chance to utilize his weaponizer gimmick, post some pics, I'd love to see those

Ha! Yes, Sixgun. The real question is, was that a mistake on my part or did my phone autocorrect to Sixshot. I mean, it’s not like I haven’t texted that name a million times.

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015865)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 24th, 2019 @ 10:49pm CDT

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:I got Sixgun today. Haven’t messed with the weaponizer gimmick yet, but he makes an awesome Goblin Glider.

Now he and Ironhide can fight Starscream on equal footing:

Sabrblade wrote:https://twitter.com/Peaugh/status/1103341320133840896

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015869)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on March 24th, 2019 @ 11:42pm CDT

Nathaniel Prime wrote:When you have a chance to utilize his weaponizer gimmick, post some pics, I'd love to see those

Sixgun weaponizing? In that case here, have this again:

Ironhide, Super Mode!.JPG

I greatly prefer using his torso bits as a Doomfist as opposed to guns and/or armor so far, I feel they work so much better that way.

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015874)
Posted by Cyberpath on March 25th, 2019 @ 5:19am CDT

Finally got my first batch of SIEGE figures. Haven't had the time to really play with them yet. But I have a question about Cog, does he seriously not have individual thigh moment?

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015879)
Posted by Cobotron on March 25th, 2019 @ 8:20am CDT

Cyberpath wrote:Finally got my first batch of SIEGE figures. Haven't had the time to really play with them yet. But I have a question about Cog, does he seriously not have individual thigh moment?

What do you mean , Cyb? Thigh swivel? He's got that.
That point of articulation aslo serves as the peg and port to attach and detach his legs for weaponizing.

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015880)
Posted by no-one on March 25th, 2019 @ 8:23am CDT

Cobotron wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:Finally got my first batch of SIEGE figures. Haven't had the time to really play with them yet. But I have a question about Cog, does he seriously not have individual thigh moment?
What do you mean , Cyb? Thigh swivel? He's got that.
That point of articulation aslo serves as the peg and port to attach and detach his legs for weaponizing.

Ninja'd as I got up to go check. But yup, he pretty much has just as much articulation as the rest of the Siege line.

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015883)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 25th, 2019 @ 8:55am CDT

carytheone wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:Finally got my first batch of SIEGE figures. Haven't had the time to really play with them yet. But I have a question about Cog, does he seriously not have individual thigh moment?
What do you mean , Cyb? Thigh swivel? He's got that.
That point of articulation aslo serves as the peg and port to attach and detach his legs for weaponizing.
Ninja'd as I got up to go check. But yup, he pretty much has just as much articulation as the rest of the Siege line.

That doesn't sound like what he's talking about, it sounds like when he moves one leg forward both move at once, but I could be wrong :-?

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015889)
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on March 25th, 2019 @ 10:08am CDT

Hellscream9999 wrote:
carytheone wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:Finally got my first batch of SIEGE figures. Haven't had the time to really play with them yet. But I have a question about Cog, does he seriously not have individual thigh moment?
What do you mean , Cyb? Thigh swivel? He's got that.
That point of articulation aslo serves as the peg and port to attach and detach his legs for weaponizing.
Ninja'd as I got up to go check. But yup, he pretty much has just as much articulation as the rest of the Siege line.

That doesn't sound like what he's talking about, it sounds like when he moves one leg forward both move at once, but I could be wrong

Yep, that's what I thought he meant too :-?

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015893)
Posted by Cobotron on March 25th, 2019 @ 10:50am CDT

Nathaniel Prime wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
carytheone wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:Finally got my first batch of SIEGE figures. Haven't had the time to really play with them yet. But I have a question about Cog, does he seriously not have individual thigh moment?
What do you mean , Cyb? Thigh swivel? He's got that.
That point of articulation aslo serves as the peg and port to attach and detach his legs for weaponizing.
Ninja'd as I got up to go check. But yup, he pretty much has just as much articulation as the rest of the Siege line.

That doesn't sound like what he's talking about, it sounds like when he moves one leg forward both move at once, but I could be wrong

Yep, that's what I thought he meant too

Well, I'm at work and no longer in the Collect-O-Tron. I can't remember off the top of the noodle. Are Cog's hips fused? I still think they move independently.

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015894)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 25th, 2019 @ 10:52am CDT

Cobotron wrote:
Nathaniel Prime wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
carytheone wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:Finally got my first batch of SIEGE figures. Haven't had the time to really play with them yet. But I have a question about Cog, does he seriously not have individual thigh moment?
What do you mean , Cyb? Thigh swivel? He's got that.
That point of articulation aslo serves as the peg and port to attach and detach his legs for weaponizing.
Ninja'd as I got up to go check. But yup, he pretty much has just as much articulation as the rest of the Siege line.

That doesn't sound like what he's talking about, it sounds like when he moves one leg forward both move at once, but I could be wrong

Yep, that's what I thought he meant too
Well, I'm at work and no longer in the Collect-O-Tron. I can't remember off the top of the noodle. Are Cog's hips fused? I still think they move independently.

They're supposed to, I think Cyb got a lemon

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015897)
Posted by no-one on March 25th, 2019 @ 11:08am CDT

Hellscream9999 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Nathaniel Prime wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
carytheone wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:Finally got my first batch of SIEGE figures. Haven't had the time to really play with them yet. But I have a question about Cog, does he seriously not have individual thigh moment?
What do you mean , Cyb? Thigh swivel? He's got that.
That point of articulation aslo serves as the peg and port to attach and detach his legs for weaponizing.
Ninja'd as I got up to go check. But yup, he pretty much has just as much articulation as the rest of the Siege line.

That doesn't sound like what he's talking about, it sounds like when he moves one leg forward both move at once, but I could be wrong
Yep, that's what I thought he meant too
Well, I'm at work and no longer in the Collect-O-Tron. I can't remember off the top of the noodle. Are Cog's hips fused? I still think they move independently.
They're supposed to, I think Cyb got a lemon

Maybe? I checked mine and erryting moves independently. I wonder if the torso can be cracked open to take a look?

Ultra Magnus's hips/legs want to move together when you only move one (forward/backwards), but they are not fused. Feels like the connections are just squeezed together really tight. If that is the case with Cog might just require a little brute force to break the grip.

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015901)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 25th, 2019 @ 11:15am CDT

carytheone wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Nathaniel Prime wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
carytheone wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:Finally got my first batch of SIEGE figures. Haven't had the time to really play with them yet. But I have a question about Cog, does he seriously not have individual thigh moment?
What do you mean , Cyb? Thigh swivel? He's got that.
That point of articulation aslo serves as the peg and port to attach and detach his legs for weaponizing.
Ninja'd as I got up to go check. But yup, he pretty much has just as much articulation as the rest of the Siege line.

That doesn't sound like what he's talking about, it sounds like when he moves one leg forward both move at once, but I could be wrong
Yep, that's what I thought he meant too
Well, I'm at work and no longer in the Collect-O-Tron. I can't remember off the top of the noodle. Are Cog's hips fused? I still think they move independently.
They're supposed to, I think Cyb got a lemon
Maybe? I checked mine and erryting moves independently. I wonder if the torso can be cracked open to take a look?

Ultra Magnus's hips/legs want to move together when you only move one (forward/backwards), but they are not fused. Feels like the connections are just squeezed together really tight. If that is the case with Cog might just require a little brute force to break the grip.

IIRC, when I first opened my Cog, his thighs were stuck moving only in conjunction with each other at first. I had to kind of wiggle them in opposing directions to get them to move freely and independently.

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015922)
Posted by Cyberpath on March 25th, 2019 @ 2:28pm CDT

Sabr's right. I just didn't want to force it before checking with you guys. Thanks everyone!

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015923)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 25th, 2019 @ 2:42pm CDT

I had time over the weekend to open up Siege Starscream and Soundwave. I love 'em both! I can't wait to get Thundercracker and Skywarp later. Starscream in robot mode looks fantastic standing next to Siege Megatron, Shockwave, and Soundwave. The tetra jet mode looks fine to me. The arms and legs tuck up underneath in person a little better than pictures have suggested. In particular, the wings come down almost flush with the bottom of the shins. Soundwave is great too, obviously. Robot mode is his best mode, far and away. The space barge is fine, but the lamppost is more just a cute nod to fans. It's barely transformed compared to the robot mode. My season 1 Decepticon shelf really starting to take shape now. I've got the Unite Warriors Constructicons lined up behind Megatron and his "generals." With the slight downsizing of Voyager size lately, the Constructicons all look nice and beefy compared to Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, and Shockwave, cementing them as the "enforcers" or "brutes" of the Decepticon army.

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015929)
Posted by william-james88 on March 25th, 2019 @ 3:10pm CDT

Hey Wolfman, pieces dont fall off of your Starcream?

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015930)
Posted by william-james88 on March 25th, 2019 @ 3:11pm CDT

new WFC figures coming (well confirmation of the ones we saw)

Soundblaster
Bluestreak
Nicer megs and Optimus
MicroMaster 10 pack

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ore/43121/

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015933)
Posted by Flashwave on March 25th, 2019 @ 3:13pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:new WFC figures coming (well confirmation of the ones we saw)

Soundblaster
Bluestreak
Nicer megs and Optimus

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ore/43121/

I'm curious about the 10 Pack. I hope its not a reissue bundle of thr first 2 waves or something.

Also, isnt that the first offical confirmation for WFC Ratchet? We've known about the Database listing, but this is the first actual word about it?

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015936)
Posted by Omegatron. on March 25th, 2019 @ 3:18pm CDT

Wireless_Phantom wrote:
Omegatron. wrote:Turns out, Combiner Wars combiner pegs fit very snugly into the prime master sockets of POTP combiner hands, so your combiner limbs are now 5mm compatible.

Oh boy I do love chaos with 5mm pegs. I think I'm going to have to get an extra Cog now that I know I can make combiner limbs 5mm compatible.

That gives me an idea...

Behold, ACOGINUS!

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Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015940)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 25th, 2019 @ 3:27pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:Hey Wolfman, pieces dont fall off of your Starcream?

The chest piece will fall off. It doesn't have a pin to secure it to that hinge, unfortunately. However, knowing of the issue ahead of time, I was able to transform it back and forth with it only falling off completely once and partially another time. It's about the only objective flaw of the figure for me, honestly. There are, of course, some deco difference I would have preferred, such as leaving the nosecone gray (not blue), painting Starscream's face a darker shade of silver, putting a little bit more of the red striping on the underside of the wings, etc.

Flashwave wrote:
william-james88 wrote:new WFC figures coming (well confirmation of the ones we saw)

Soundblaster
Bluestreak
Nicer megs and Optimus

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ore/43121/

I'm curious about the 10 Pack. I hope its not a reissue bundle of thr first 2 waves or something.

My hope is that the 10-pack will include missing members for the Micro Master team 2-packs released already. In other words, this might be how we get the likes of Free Wheeler, Tailspin, Sidetrack, Sunrunner, Nightflight, Tailwind, Fixit, Seawatch, Detour, Road Hugger, Mudslinger, Tote, Buzzsaw, Rumble, or Frenzy.

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015948)
Posted by Emerje on March 25th, 2019 @ 3:54pm CDT

Since the 10 pack is listed as a "Mega Value" I suspect it's just five 2 packs bundled together. I'd like to be wrong, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

Emerje

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015953)
Posted by no-one on March 25th, 2019 @ 4:03pm CDT

Emerje wrote:Since the 10 pack is listed as a "Mega Value" I suspect it's just five 2 packs bundled together. I'd like to be wrong, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

Emerje

My guess would be something more like this:

william-james88 wrote:"Nicer" megs and Optimus

I fixed it for you

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015965)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 25th, 2019 @ 5:21pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:new WFC figures coming (well confirmation of the ones we saw)

Soundblaster
Bluestreak
Nicer megs and Optimus
MicroMaster 10 pack

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ore/43121/

Do we really have any new information about what these "Special Edition" versions of Siege Optimus Prime and Megatron will really be? We can speculate that they won't have battle damage paint apps, but I don't think we know for absolutely sure.

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015966)
Posted by william-james88 on March 25th, 2019 @ 5:23pm CDT

Flashwave wrote:
william-james88 wrote:new WFC figures coming (well confirmation of the ones we saw)

Soundblaster
Bluestreak
Nicer megs and Optimus

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ore/43121/

I'm curious about the 10 Pack. I hope its not a reissue bundle of thr first 2 waves or something.

Also, isnt that the first offical confirmation for WFC Ratchet? We've known about the Database listing, but this is the first actual word about it?

This is also simply a database listing, so not any more official than the previous news.

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015973)
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on March 25th, 2019 @ 5:44pm CDT

Wolfman Jake wrote:
william-james88 wrote:new WFC figures coming (well confirmation of the ones we saw)

Soundblaster
Bluestreak
Nicer megs and Optimus
MicroMaster 10 pack

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ore/43121/

Do we really have any new information about what these "Special Edition" versions of Siege Optimus Prime and Megatron will really be? We can speculate that they won't have battle damage paint apps, but I don't think we know for absolutely sure.

Based on the photoshopped cut-outs shown briefly at Toy Fair, we can probably assume they'll be decoed to look cel-shaded, but we can't really say for sure until we get more info.

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015975)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on March 25th, 2019 @ 5:50pm CDT

So, has anybody tried weaponizing your weaponizers yet? Who wears who better? My vote is for Cog and his boob guns.

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Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015977)
Posted by bvzxa on March 25th, 2019 @ 5:56pm CDT

Wolfman Jake wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Hey Wolfman, pieces dont fall off of your Starcream?

The chest piece will fall off. It doesn't have a pin to secure it to that hinge, unfortunately. However, knowing of the issue ahead of time, I was able to transform it back and forth with it only falling off completely once and partially another time. It's about the only objective flaw of the figure for me, honestly. There are, of course, some deco difference I would have preferred, such as leaving the nosecone gray (not blue), painting Starscream's face a darker shade of silver, putting a little bit more of the red striping on the underside of the wings, etc.

Flashwave wrote:
william-james88 wrote:new WFC figures coming (well confirmation of the ones we saw)

Soundblaster
Bluestreak
Nicer megs and Optimus

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ore/43121/

I'm curious about the 10 Pack. I hope its not a reissue bundle of thr first 2 waves or something.

My hope is that the 10-pack will include missing members for the Micro Master team 2-packs released already. In other words, this might be how we get the likes of Free Wheeler, Tailspin, Sidetrack, Sunrunner, Nightflight, Tailwind, Fixit, Seawatch, Detour, Road Hugger, Mudslinger, Tote, Buzzsaw, Rumble, or Frenzy.

I did try to paint the face myself but the paint on Starscream kinda comes off easily. I have a second one on the way so now my current Starscream has a black face. Also the screw in the back of the head is in very tight so I lost most of the light piping lol

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015980)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 25th, 2019 @ 5:59pm CDT

Jeddostotle7 wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
william-james88 wrote:new WFC figures coming (well confirmation of the ones we saw)

Soundblaster
Bluestreak
Nicer megs and Optimus
MicroMaster 10 pack

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ore/43121/

Do we really have any new information about what these "Special Edition" versions of Siege Optimus Prime and Megatron will really be? We can speculate that they won't have battle damage paint apps, but I don't think we know for absolutely sure.

Based on the photoshopped cut-outs shown briefly at Toy Fair, we can probably assume they'll be decoed to look cel-shaded, but we can't really say for sure until we get more info.

I'd have to look back to be sure, but I think those "cel-shaded cutouts" were nothing more than existing stock art of G1 Optimus Prime and Megatron. In other words, someone at Hasbro grabbed something at hand and didn't include something that is a mock-up directly of what either of these figures will actually be.

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015986)
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on March 25th, 2019 @ 6:04pm CDT

Wolfman Jake wrote:
Jeddostotle7 wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
william-james88 wrote:new WFC figures coming (well confirmation of the ones we saw)

Soundblaster
Bluestreak
Nicer megs and Optimus
MicroMaster 10 pack

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ore/43121/

Do we really have any new information about what these "Special Edition" versions of Siege Optimus Prime and Megatron will really be? We can speculate that they won't have battle damage paint apps, but I don't think we know for absolutely sure.

Based on the photoshopped cut-outs shown briefly at Toy Fair, we can probably assume they'll be decoed to look cel-shaded, but we can't really say for sure until we get more info.

I'd have to look back to be sure, but I think those "cel-shaded cutouts" were nothing more than existing stock art of G1 Optimus Prime and Megatron. In other words, someone at Hasbro grabbed something at hand and didn't include something that is a mock-up directly of what either of these figures will actually be.

The art standing on top of the boxes were stylized stock art, but the cut-outs inside the boxes were photoshops of the stock renders of Siege Optimus and Megatron, made to look cel-shaded and colored more like the cartoon (note cel-shaded shine on Optimus' chest windows and white legs instead of gray).

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2015996)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 25th, 2019 @ 7:12pm CDT

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

The art standing on top of the boxes were stylized stock art, but the cut-outs inside the boxes were photoshops of the stock renders of Siege Optimus and Megatron, made to look cel-shaded and colored more like the cartoon (note cel-shaded shine on Optimus' chest windows and white legs instead of gray).

That's a much higher res picture than I remember seeing weeks ago. Thanks for that! I wouldn't be too sure that the figures themselves will be "cel-shaded" just because of the white streaks on Optimus Prime's windows. That's just to show transparency on an opaque image, like that cardboard cutout. The windows themselves on the figure proper may simply be translucent light blue plastic as usual. Likewise, Megatron's legs might be done in a shiny gun-metal gray paint. I do agree that we're likely getting the Sunbow animation colors on these guys, which I am all for.

Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II (2016000)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 25th, 2019 @ 7:32pm CDT

Thanks to Twitter user Tristan Dauer, we have a massive new batch of images to share with you of the upcoming Transformers War for Cybertron Siege Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime!

During the course of this Twitter thread, we get some awesome new shots of the Leader Galaxy Prime, which include some in box shots, a nice look at the packaging, some vanilla robot mode and super powered up robot mode shots, and some comparisons to both the Siege Voyager Prime, and also to some of the Unicron Trilogy Prime figures.

While the figure is a bit smaller than its Cybertron daddy, it certainly appears to line up well with the Unicron Trilogy aesthetic, granting the Unicron Trilogy Prime some long awaited love that hopefully continues to expand as the War for Cybertron progresses.

Check out some of the images below, and click either the link above or the images below to check out the entire batch of images!