Kingdom Scorponok, Tracks and Wingfinger Found at US Target

aronjlove wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Check the box.

You are correct, I guess I missed that

SpikeyTigertron wrote:Those poor wheeljacks left on the pegs

SpikeyTigertron wrote:Those poor wheeljacks left on the pegs

primalxconvoy wrote:I wish they had written his name as "Covert Agent Rabich" on the box, in Russian script.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Changewinds wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:What a time to be alive as a beast wars fan! Of course we'll see if im singing the same tune once we know pricing and availability but man am I excited! His forearms are a little scrawny but he's great!

I love that the reviewer got excited about the upper body transformation (if I interpreted that correctly) and that he added "Wakanda forever" haha especially because I like to make other teams out of transformers characters and ravage would definitely be my Black Panther. And maybe shadow panther as Shuri

I’m excited by the upper body transformation too!
Watching the review, I’m liking the way the arms fold in to fill the gap, the way the head has the extra piece to fill out the neck, the nice waist swivel, and just the overall aesthetic. It’s quite obvious that the head is a Tigertron repaint from the review so it’s interesting that we’ll see the “repaint” version before the actual version.

The head isn't Tigatron's as Tigatron is a Voyager in this line, more likely they've taken his transformation scheme and applied it to the cheetor retool

khrome wrote:Did you people learn nothing from the toilet paper crisis?

-Kanrabat- wrote:

khrome wrote:Did you people learn nothing from the toilet paper crisis?

One thing that I learned:
Wiping yourself with a Transformer is not comfortable.

khrome wrote:2 per case and he took the whole case.
This is why no one can ever find anything.

Did you people learn nothing from the toilet paper crisis?

Spider5800 wrote::KREMZEEK:

khrome wrote:2 per case and he took the whole case.
This is why no one can ever find anything.

Did you people learn nothing from the toilet paper crisis?

Yeah, stuff like this is why I order online anymore.

"They're in stores, guys! I mean, not this store now, because I took 'em all, but maybe where you are they'll show up soon!"

At least half of those are already on Ebay.

sol magnus wrote:

Spider5800 wrote::KREMZEEK:

khrome wrote:2 per case and he took the whole case.
This is why no one can ever find anything.

Did you people learn nothing from the toilet paper crisis?

Yeah, stuff like this is why I order online anymore.

"They're in stores, guys! I mean, not this store now, because I took 'em all, but maybe where you are they'll show up soon!"

At least half of those are already on Ebay.

Maybe he has a kid. I have a kid. Some characters (not all by any stretch) I have to get two of. It does happen legitimately.

Spider5800 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Spider5800 wrote::KREMZEEK:

khrome wrote:2 per case and he took the whole case.
This is why no one can ever find anything.

Did you people learn nothing from the toilet paper crisis?

Yeah, stuff like this is why I order online anymore.

"They're in stores, guys! I mean, not this store now, because I took 'em all, but maybe where you are they'll show up soon!"

At least half of those are already on Ebay.

Maybe he has a kid. I have a kid. Some characters (not all by any stretch) I have to get two of. It does happen legitimately.

Do you really think he took ALL the copies of the new figures off the shelves for legit reasons? Because if so, I own a bridge you may be on the market for.

Come on, man, scalpers don't need you to defend them.

aronjlove wrote:The pics originate from a Facebook group, something about buying and selling Transformers, so he grabbed an extra to sell in the group. There's a rather large difference between grabbing a couple and emptying the shelves.

o.supreme wrote:

aronjlove wrote:The pics originate from a Facebook group, something about buying and selling Transformers, so he grabbed an extra to sell in the group. There's a rather large difference between grabbing a couple and emptying the shelves.

I'm not taking sides here. Just pointing out that my experience in the last year when it comes to new product; "grabbing a couple" = "emptying the shelves". But if you live in a place where they have tons of em', by all means go for it.

aronjlove wrote:This is very true, and I am extremely lucky to live in an area with good distribution. I can't toss a brick without hitting a Walmart.

Razorbeast88 wrote:Primevsprime put up a review of the Mirage and grimlock set
Looks like I was wrong, grimlocks fake eyes on the chest are unpainted sadly

Nuclearxpotato wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:Primevsprime put up a review of the Mirage and grimlock set
Looks like I was wrong, grimlocks fake eyes on the chest are unpainted sadly

It's an early sample (he doesn't show the box, so it's not a production run). It's possible that the production run will include the extra paint ops on the faux eyes.

aronjlove wrote:The pics originate from a Facebook group, something about buying and selling Transformers, so he grabbed an extra to sell in the group. There's a rather large difference between grabbing a couple and emptying the shelves.

Razorbeast88 wrote:

Nuclearxpotato wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:Primevsprime put up a review of the Mirage and grimlock set
Looks like I was wrong, grimlocks fake eyes on the chest are unpainted sadly

It's an early sample (he doesn't show the box, so it's not a production run). It's possible that the production run will include the extra paint ops on the faux eyes.

I hope you're right!!

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:

Nuclearxpotato wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:Primevsprime put up a review of the Mirage and grimlock set
Looks like I was wrong, grimlocks fake eyes on the chest are unpainted sadly

It's an early sample (he doesn't show the box, so it's not a production run). It's possible that the production run will include the extra paint ops on the faux eyes.

I hope you're right!!

Forget the green faux eyes on Grimlock’s beast mode! I’d rather the production run fix the shoulder cannon snafu with Mirage.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:

Nuclearxpotato wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:Primevsprime put up a review of the Mirage and grimlock set
Looks like I was wrong, grimlocks fake eyes on the chest are unpainted sadly

It's an early sample (he doesn't show the box, so it's not a production run). It's possible that the production run will include the extra paint ops on the faux eyes.

I hope you're right!!

Forget the green faux eyes on Grimlock’s beast mode! I’d rather the production run fix the shoulder cannon snafu with Mirage.

Rtron wrote:I don't get all the drama about Mirage's shoulder cannon. It's just ONE missing feature, lost because of how the improved transformation works. And you can fix it pretty easily.

Rtron wrote:I don't get all the drama about Mirage's shoulder cannon. It's just ONE missing feature, lost because of how the improved transformation works. And you can fix it pretty easily.

Rtron wrote:I don't get all the drama about Mirage's shoulder cannon. It's just ONE missing feature, lost because of how the improved transformation works. And you can fix it pretty easily.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Rtron wrote:I don't get all the drama about Mirage's shoulder cannon. It's just ONE missing feature, lost because of how the improved transformation works. And you can fix it pretty easily.

It’s because the figure lost functionality with this Earthmode “upgrade.” The remolded parts also look less on model to the G1 cartoon than the Siege version. They went out of their way to “fix” something that was never broken. All they needed to do was ditch the clear plastic and change some tampographs.

Rtron wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Rtron wrote:I don't get all the drama about Mirage's shoulder cannon. It's just ONE missing feature, lost because of how the improved transformation works. And you can fix it pretty easily.

It’s because the figure lost functionality with this Earthmode “upgrade.” The remolded parts also look less on model to the G1 cartoon than the Siege version. They went out of their way to “fix” something that was never broken. All they needed to do was ditch the clear plastic and change some tampographs.

It looks more accurate now though? It has a less bulky spoiler, looks more like a racecar, and the fake robot chest is not showing in altmode. And the shoulder cannon IS included. Making the cannon would be difficult, but mounting it is a matter of just finding something to hold it. You can mount it using an adapter you make yourself, out of whatever you find lying around, it's literally an L shaped strut with a peg on one end and a hole at the other end. If you want to get fancy, you can 3D print one. You don't even have to design it, the internet will be SWARMING with free printables to mount the cannon on his shoulder.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Rtron wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Rtron wrote:I don't get all the drama about Mirage's shoulder cannon. It's just ONE missing feature, lost because of how the improved transformation works. And you can fix it pretty easily.

It’s because the figure lost functionality with this Earthmode “upgrade.” The remolded parts also look less on model to the G1 cartoon than the Siege version. They went out of their way to “fix” something that was never broken. All they needed to do was ditch the clear plastic and change some tampographs.

It looks more accurate now though? It has a less bulky spoiler, looks more like a racecar, and the fake robot chest is not showing in altmode. And the shoulder cannon IS included. Making the cannon would be difficult, but mounting it is a matter of just finding something to hold it. You can mount it using an adapter you make yourself, out of whatever you find lying around, it's literally an L shaped strut with a peg on one end and a hole at the other end. If you want to get fancy, you can 3D print one. You don't even have to design it, the internet will be SWARMING with free printables to mount the cannon on his shoulder.

The problem is though, that is a lot of effort to fix something that was never broken. Like people wanting Earth Mode Sideswipe, the Siege one was clearly an earth car wanting to pretend to be a Cybertronian.

It's great that you like it, but bare in mind that some don't and their problems with the mold, aren't imaginary.

Rtron wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Rtron wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Rtron wrote:I don't get all the drama about Mirage's shoulder cannon. It's just ONE missing feature, lost because of how the improved transformation works. And you can fix it pretty easily.

It’s because the figure lost functionality with this Earthmode “upgrade.” The remolded parts also look less on model to the G1 cartoon than the Siege version. They went out of their way to “fix” something that was never broken. All they needed to do was ditch the clear plastic and change some tampographs.

It looks more accurate now though? It has a less bulky spoiler, looks more like a racecar, and the fake robot chest is not showing in altmode. And the shoulder cannon IS included. Making the cannon would be difficult, but mounting it is a matter of just finding something to hold it. You can mount it using an adapter you make yourself, out of whatever you find lying around, it's literally an L shaped strut with a peg on one end and a hole at the other end. If you want to get fancy, you can 3D print one. You don't even have to design it, the internet will be SWARMING with free printables to mount the cannon on his shoulder.

The problem is though, that is a lot of effort to fix something that was never broken. Like people wanting Earth Mode Sideswipe, the Siege one was clearly an earth car wanting to pretend to be a Cybertronian.

It's great that you like it, but bare in mind that some don't and their problems with the mold, aren't imaginary.

Never said it was imaginary, in fact, I suggested a fix for it. I wouldn't suggest a fix for something "imaginary". It's just that it seems like a shame to pass on a figure that improves on the previous one on like five things just because it's worse on one other thing, and one that's very easily fixable at that. You can't change Siege Mirage's transformation scheme and tampos and clear plastic and molding. But you can very easily make a DIY shoulder mount for Kingdom Mirage's cannon.

Here's what I mean about the alt mode:

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Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron Deluxe Covert Agent Ravage and Micromaster Decepticons Forever Ravage - (Ages 8 and Up / Approx. Retail Price: $44.99 / Available: November 1, 2021)

"Decepticons forever! In celebration of 25 years of the iconic Beast Wars: Transformers animated series, fans can add this 2-pack to their collection, featuring the classic Predacon/Decepticon jaguar, Ravage! Ravage may have been reformatted into a Predacon, but after watching a secret message from his long-dead Decepticon leader, he realizes where his allegiances lie. This pack is inspired by the scene where Ravage joins the Predacons, converts into his former mini cassette mode and leaps into the Transwarp Cruiser’s tape recorder. This pack includes a 5.5-inch Deluxe COVERT AGENT RAVAGE figure that converts from robot to jaguar mode in 20 steps and a 1.5-inch Micromaster DECEPTICONS FOREVER RAVAGE figure that converts from jaguar to mini cassette mode in 4 steps. Pose out with 2 pistol weapon accessories and 2 blast effects and decorate DECEPTICONS FOREVER RAVAGE in cassette mode with the included G1-inspired stickers. Remake the classic Beast Wars: Transformers scene with package art inspired by the command deck of the Transwarp Cruiser that Ravage captains. Available exclusively on Hasbro Pulse in the US, Canada & UK in Fall 2021."

Razorbeast88 wrote:So do yall know if id need a pulse premium membership to get ravage? Or id just have to order it off of pulse?

aronjlove wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:So do yall know if id need a pulse premium membership to get ravage? Or id just have to order it off of pulse?

Since we now know this is a Pulsecon exclusive you don't need a membership except for 'early access'. This should be like the Pit of Judgement.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:

Nuclearxpotato wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:Primevsprime put up a review of the Mirage and grimlock set
Looks like I was wrong, grimlocks fake eyes on the chest are unpainted sadly

It's an early sample (he doesn't show the box, so it's not a production run). It's possible that the production run will include the extra paint ops on the faux eyes.

I hope you're right!!

Forget the green faux eyes on Grimlock’s beast mode! I’d rather the production run fix the shoulder cannon snafu with Mirage.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Rtron wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Rtron wrote:I don't get all the drama about Mirage's shoulder cannon. It's just ONE missing feature, lost because of how the improved transformation works. And you can fix it pretty easily.

It’s because the figure lost functionality with this Earthmode “upgrade.” The remolded parts also look less on model to the G1 cartoon than the Siege version. They went out of their way to “fix” something that was never broken. All they needed to do was ditch the clear plastic and change some tampographs.

It looks more accurate now though? It has a less bulky spoiler, looks more like a racecar, and the fake robot chest is not showing in altmode. And the shoulder cannon IS included. Making the cannon would be difficult, but mounting it is a matter of just finding something to hold it. You can mount it using an adapter you make yourself, out of whatever you find lying around, it's literally an L shaped strut with a peg on one end and a hole at the other end. If you want to get fancy, you can 3D print one. You don't even have to design it, the internet will be SWARMING with free printables to mount the cannon on his shoulder.

The problem is though, that is a lot of effort to fix something that was never broken. Like people wanting Earth Mode Sideswipe, the Siege one was clearly an earth car wanting to pretend to be a Cybertronian.

It's great that you like it, but bare in mind that some don't and their problems with the mold, aren't imaginary.

ZeroWolf wrote:Yeah, it wasn't supposed to come off as snotty as that, so I do apologise for that. It was more meant to ask which release we were discussing at the time and nothing other then that. Honestly I can't remember the conversation.

As for Mirage, I don't have a horse in the race as I never bothered to get Mirage in the first place (don't care about G1).

Razorbeast88 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Yeah, it wasn't supposed to come off as snotty as that, so I do apologise for that. It was more meant to ask which release we were discussing at the time and nothing other then that. Honestly I can't remember the conversation.

As for Mirage, I don't have a horse in the race as I never bothered to get Mirage in the first place (don't care about G1).

Apology accepted, it can be very easy to misinterpret intentions online and obviously im guilty of just that. Seems like it was just a misunderstanding

As for the release, I was talking about the battle Across Time Maximal Grimlock that comes in the 2 pack with Mirage. I'd appreciate if the final product has the feaux eyes on the chest painted, but if not it's no big deal and I can hopefully fix it with toyhax labels down the line or ill just get over it

As for Mirage, I'm not too attached to the character but I have yet to see a mainline Mirage figure done well imo. Classics had a cool design but wasn't without flaws. Since then all the Mirage figures just seem mediocre. MMC's sphinx is probably one of the better ones I've seen, and this Mirage has a better paintjob than siege but as other fans have pointed out is not without its problems. The shoulder thing at the very least should be an easy fix, but it's unfortunate that's an issue in the first place

ZeroWolf wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Yeah, it wasn't supposed to come off as snotty as that, so I do apologise for that. It was more meant to ask which release we were discussing at the time and nothing other then that. Honestly I can't remember the conversation.

As for Mirage, I don't have a horse in the race as I never bothered to get Mirage in the first place (don't care about G1).

Apology accepted, it can be very easy to misinterpret intentions online and obviously im guilty of just that. Seems like it was just a misunderstanding

As for the release, I was talking about the battle Across Time Maximal Grimlock that comes in the 2 pack with Mirage. I'd appreciate if the final product has the feaux eyes on the chest painted, but if not it's no big deal and I can hopefully fix it with toyhax labels down the line or ill just get over it

As for Mirage, I'm not too attached to the character but I have yet to see a mainline Mirage figure done well imo. Classics had a cool design but wasn't without flaws. Since then all the Mirage figures just seem mediocre. MMC's sphinx is probably one of the better ones I've seen, and this Mirage has a better paintjob than siege but as other fans have pointed out is not without its problems. The shoulder thing at the very least should be an easy fix, but it's unfortunate that's an issue in the first place

Wait...that was Wolfman Jake who replied to you about the eyes on the chest!

For the record, my thoughts on the chest eyes are that you should wait till we have in hand shots of the retail version

william-james88 wrote:So yeah, Ravage will be a pulse exclusive for the US and Canada for $45. So Kanrabat, I'll make sure to buy us each one.