More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed

Tuesday, January 10th, 2017 10:39AM CST

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Hasbro just sent us a message confirming what we saw this morning and giving us more detail. As it turns out, that is indeed a new Movie Masterpiece Bumblebee, numbered at MPM-3. It is done to celebrate the 10th anniversary of the first film. More linked to the new film, The Last Knight, is the Leader Optimus Redeco with new weapons. Both seem to be Asian editions so it is currently unkown if they will be sold in the west at big box retail. Below is all the info we have from Hasbro, including the prices and official stock images.

Transformers: The Last Knight Premier Edition Leader Shadow Spark Optimus Prime

(Ages 8 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $69.99/Available: April 2017)

The explosive Transformers saga continues with Transformers: The Last Knight, and this Asia-Edition Premier Edition Leader Class Shadow Spark Optimus Prime figure allows fans to bring the action home with them. The large-scale figure features incredibly intricate space deco and purple eyes inspired by the movie and converts between robot and truck mode in 20 steps. This 9-inch Optimus Prime figure also comes equipped with two space weapons.

Masterpiece Movie Series Bumblebee MPM-3 Figure

(Ages 8 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $79.99/Available: July 2017)

This premium movie Bumblebee MPM-3 figure from the Transformers Masterpiece series brings the 10th anniversary of the 1st Transformers movie to life with this film-version of the iconic Autobot scout. This figure includes stunning intricate detailing and 33 steps of articulation, as well as a flip-down battle mask and Chevrolet Camaro design. Whether he’s cruising the highway as a slick Chevrolet Camaro or facing Decepticons in battle, Bumblebee is one of the bravest bots in the universe.

Credit(s): Hasbro

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Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851560)
Posted by Overcracker on January 10th, 2017 @ 10:41am CST

It may just be me, but it totally looks like the Leader Class Age of Extinction Prime with a few changes. Like the chest piece (though it may just be the paint), head, and a few other bits.

The back of the figure is near identical. Same backpack, transformation panels, legs etc... all the same. Even the same sword.

I'm calling a slight retool at best:

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851562)
Posted by william-james88 on January 10th, 2017 @ 10:46am CST

Overcracker wrote:It may just be me, but it totally looks like the Leader Class Age of Extinction Prime with a few changes. Like the chest piece (though it may just be the paint), head, and a few other bits.

Its just a redeco, we wrote as such in the news post.

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ece/37095/

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851564)
Posted by Overcracker on January 10th, 2017 @ 10:48am CST

william-james88 wrote:
Overcracker wrote:It may just be me, but it totally looks like the Leader Class Age of Extinction Prime with a few changes. Like the chest piece (though it may just be the paint), head, and a few other bits.

Its just a redeco, we wrote as such in the news post.

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ece/37095/

Missed the news post. Just went for the thread here.

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851566)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 10th, 2017 @ 10:53am CST

It is baffling that they went to such lengths to make that neat looking deco and didn't use the retooled Armor Knight version that is more movie-accurate than Hasbro's original version that was instead based more on earlier AOE concept art.

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851578)
Posted by Seibertron on January 10th, 2017 @ 11:42am CST

I'm fairly certain that Bumblebee is either a new mold or, at the very least, it's not the Battle Ops Bumblebee/MPM-2 Bumblebee mold.

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851580)
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on January 10th, 2017 @ 11:48am CST

Let's hope these wave are quick and are done quickly.

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851587)
Posted by Overcracker on January 10th, 2017 @ 12:14pm CST

william-james88 wrote:

The fully lit stock pictures make the color scheme look quite a bit more bland than the original reveal pics did.

Those arms look super bare. And the rust on the chest looks very much out of place with the shiny blue plastic around.

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851593)
Posted by Bumblebee21 on January 10th, 2017 @ 12:31pm CST

Seibertron wrote:I'm fairly certain that Bumblebee is either a new mold or, at the very least, it's not the Battle Ops Bumblebee/MPM-2 Bumblebee mold.

im pretty sure its a retooled dotm version

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851594)
Posted by RAR on January 10th, 2017 @ 12:39pm CST

The amusing thing is that someone like Wei Jiang can easily copy the "Nemesis" Optimus Prime deco onto their superior Mould and it would look a lot better too - there is a very premium light up one they keep showing - I do wonder if they just use that for promotional displays or plan to release it.

I think Optimus is going to be 3 different colours in this Movie - initially he will be iced up but look like he did in AOE then he will be this darker muted banged up look with purple eyes (suggestive of Nemesis Prime) and then he might get the Silver Knight Optimus deco they crapped out on from the last Movie - as I've seen a fair bit of promotional stuff for The Last Knight showing the silver deco - so there must be a reason for that.

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851595)
Posted by MaverickPrime on January 10th, 2017 @ 12:48pm CST

Why does everyone asume Bumblebee is a retool? Look at the near perfect proportions, DOTM Bee looked quite clunky, this one looks fit, the wheels ARE the ankles instead of being at the side, the front of the car compresses, the hands are articulated (and I'm pretty sure the wrists can swivel) AND THEY FINALLY GAVE HIM THE LITTLE WINGS!!!(upside down, but meeeeh)

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851598)
Posted by william-james88 on January 10th, 2017 @ 1:02pm CST

RAR wrote:I've seen a fair bit of promotional stuff for The Last Knight showing the silver deco - so there must be a reason for that.

yeah, the reason is early on in the development, back when the movie makers were giving the info to Hasbro to plan out the toyline, Optimus was supposed to become a silver knight at the end. However, the dropped the idea during production and his only change is his chest and forearms.

Poor Target, they went all in on that Silver Optimus concept.

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851600)
Posted by Bumblebee21 on January 10th, 2017 @ 1:06pm CST

yep looking at it more that bee is definetly looking like a retool of the dotm leader version

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851601)
Posted by Stuartmaximus on January 10th, 2017 @ 1:16pm CST

Overcracker wrote:It may just be me, but it totally looks like the Leader Class Age of Extinction Prime with a few changes. Like the chest piece (though it may just be the paint), head, and a few other bits.

The back of the figure is near identical. Same backpack, transformation panels, legs etc... all the same. Even the same sword.

I'm calling a slight retool at best:

It seems to be! but seeing as this is the Dark Energon(or Shadow Spark as they are officially calling it) version....i guess they were going for a kind of Nemesis dark tone style of paint scheme.

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851602)
Posted by william-james88 on January 10th, 2017 @ 1:17pm CST

Bumblebee21 wrote:yep looking at it more that bee is definetly looking like a retool of the dotm leader version

Do you think that retooling make it worth double what that figure's price was?

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851604)
Posted by SlyTF1 on January 10th, 2017 @ 1:22pm CST

There's a Masterpiece movie line!? Ok, now I have to get a job.

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851605)
Posted by william-james88 on January 10th, 2017 @ 1:26pm CST

SlyTF1 wrote:There's a Masterpiece movie line!? Ok, now I have to get a job.

But dont worry, until now the line was just toys in the mainline with different paint jobs. Like if you have Leader Starscream and Battle Ops Bumblebee then thats already the first 2. its just that Takara released those same toys in a nice box and called them masterpiece. And now, years later, they are continuing this line.

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851610)
Posted by DeathReviews on January 10th, 2017 @ 2:22pm CST

Ah, joy - just what the world needs - MORE Bumblebee figures. Sadly, it doesn't look like the leader Optimus figure for this movie poses any better than the Movie4 leader did. Looks like TR Powermaster Optimus level leg inhibition....

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851626)
Posted by steals_your_goats on January 10th, 2017 @ 3:16pm CST

DeathReviews wrote:Ah, joy - just what the world needs - MORE Bumblebee figures. Sadly, it doesn't look like the leader Optimus figure for this movie poses any better than the Movie4 leader did. Looks like TR Powermaster Optimus level leg inhibition....

That's because it's the same figure

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851663)
Posted by cruizerdave on January 10th, 2017 @ 6:12pm CST

Oh crap. We're headed into another Bayformers movie year.

Wake me when it's over.

Thanks!

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851676)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 10th, 2017 @ 7:41pm CST

cruizerdave wrote:Oh crap. We're headed into another Bayformers movie year.

Wake me when it's over.

Thanks!

Seeing how short-lived the last movie line was, we could be looking at another such short-lived movie line.

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851677)
Posted by Kurona on January 10th, 2017 @ 8:03pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:
cruizerdave wrote:Oh crap. We're headed into another Bayformers movie year.

Wake me when it's over.

Thanks!
Seeing how short-lived the last movie line was, we could be looking at another such short-lived movie line.

Say that to the Legion Grimlocks and Strafes I still find everywhere :lol:

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851685)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 10th, 2017 @ 8:25pm CST

Kurona wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
cruizerdave wrote:Oh crap. We're headed into another Bayformers movie year.

Wake me when it's over.

Thanks!
Seeing how short-lived the last movie line was, we could be looking at another such short-lived movie line.

Say that to the Legion Grimlocks and Strafes I still find everywhere

Lingering shelfwarmers =/= healthily continuing line.

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851695)
Posted by lowman_x on January 10th, 2017 @ 8:44pm CST

Looks like someone's been skipping arm day at the gym...

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851698)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 10th, 2017 @ 8:47pm CST

So, with regards to the listings of the size classes, I want a voyager Optimus, Megatron, and Onslaught. Hopefully they can nail all 3. Do a fat Hound too please.

Hopefully Sqweeks is a legion. It would suit his size. A deluxe may not hurt either.

Also: That Bumblebee is amazing and I want it. That is a perfect movie Bee

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851716)
Posted by Emerje on January 10th, 2017 @ 9:48pm CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Does anybody think I look cute with glasses?

Looking a little yellow, actually.

But you're right, not only do these figures not share the same parts, I'm positive they aren't even the same size. The previous Bees were Leaders, but I think the new Bee might be closer to the size of normal MP cars, closer to Voyager size.

Why? Well let's compare things that both the pics of SS Optimus Prime and MP Bumblebee have in common.

Check out the pedestal and how much of it he takes up, robot alone. Also take note of the blue name placard below him and how small it looks compared to Prime.

Now look at the same pedestal under Bee and how there's enough space for both the bot and car to fit easily. Also look at how big that blue placard now looks next to Bee. Plus the price is in line with Hasbro's other MP car releases.

I'll be looking forward to seeing how Takara Tomy prices him and can't wait to pair him with their repaint of DotM Leader Optimus Prime.

Emerje

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851719)
Posted by william-james88 on January 10th, 2017 @ 9:53pm CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote: Pretty odd that Hasbro initiated this...

Hence why I am certain they didnt. The first clue is that the item number remains the Takara designation of MPM-3. Hasbro Asia distributes all of Takara's MPs, so it makes perfect sense that they would unveil their latest entry into the MPM line at a show dedicated to the new movie inspired line just as they were the ones who first unveiled MP Dirge, even though that is of course a Takara product. Logically, it would be that Takara initiated this but that their asian distribution partner worked in part of their contract that they would be the ones unveiling it first.

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851720)
Posted by william-james88 on January 10th, 2017 @ 9:55pm CST

cruizerdave wrote:Oh crap. We're headed into another Bayformers movie year.

Wake me when it's over.

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851721)
Posted by Mindmaster on January 10th, 2017 @ 10:01pm CST

They couldn'tve used the blatantly superior Takara version of the mold for Optimus? I don't know why I'm complaining; I have no plans in delving too far into The Last Knight line anyway, just a few of the new characters and that's it.

So is Bumblebee a brand-spanking-new mold? It looks nice, but again, I've no need for it.

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851737)
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on January 10th, 2017 @ 11:13pm CST

Emerje wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Does anybody think I look cute with glasses?

Looking a little yellow, actually.

But you're right, not only do these figures not share the same parts, I'm positive they aren't even the same size. The previous Bees were Leaders, but I think the new Bee might be closer to the size of normal MP cars, closer to Voyager size.

Why? Well let's compare things that both the pics of SS Optimus Prime and MP Bumblebee have in common.

Check out the pedestal and how much of it he takes up, robot alone. Also take note of the blue name placard below him and how small it looks compared to Prime.

Now look at the same pedestal under Bee and how there's enough space for both the bot and car to fit easily. Also look at how big that blue placard now looks next to Bee. Plus the price is in line with Hasbro's other MP car releases.

I'll be looking forward to seeing how Takara Tomy prices him and can't wait to pair him with their repaint of DotM Leader Optimus Prime.

Emerje

Hmm... This changes things. I don't have any of the previous big movie Bees; they seem cool enough (or, at least, Battle Ops Bee does), but they just didn't feel like things I needed. But this one possibly actually being in MP scale... I probably shouldn't be getting a toy I might not otherwise care about just because it scales with a scale I collect, but it would be cool to finally have a figure from another continuity in Masterpiece scale.

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851750)
Posted by Insurgent on January 11th, 2017 @ 3:27am CST

Is human alliance bee not in mp scale? He'd be cheaper if it's just scale you're after.

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851756)
Posted by william-james88 on January 11th, 2017 @ 5:53am CST

Insurgent wrote:Is human alliance bee not in mp scale? He'd be cheaper if it's just scale you're after.

Yes, he is.

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851767)
Posted by Emerje on January 11th, 2017 @ 7:40am CST

I want scale and accuracy. The HA figure is a nice toy, but the interactive parts really turned me off to them.

Also I bet I can get the Takara Tomy version for much less than Hasbro's just like the rest of the MP cars.

Emerje

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851812)
Posted by william-james88 on January 11th, 2017 @ 10:49am CST

Emerje wrote:I want scale and accuracy. The HA figure is a nice toy, but the interactive parts really turned me off to them.

Also I bet I can get the Takara Tomy version for much less than Hasbro's just like the rest of the MP cars.

Emerje

Then I think this is for you, it is HA scaled:

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851834)
Posted by User897 on January 11th, 2017 @ 1:02pm CST

What does HasBLO do with shitty molds that they took flak about?

They repaint and resell them, of course!

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851891)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 11th, 2017 @ 4:21pm CST

I really want that Bumblebee now... *please don't be super expensive please don't be nearly unaffordable*

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851893)
Posted by william-james88 on January 11th, 2017 @ 4:24pm CST

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I really want that Bumblebee now... *please don't be super expensive please don't be nearly unaffordable*

The price was revealed: $80 USD MSRP

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851894)
Posted by Overcracker on January 11th, 2017 @ 4:26pm CST

Looks like a swappable arm canon rather than a transforming arm.

Its probably because its still a prototype in these images, but the plastic looks very "resin-y" . As in it doesn't quite look like plastic.

Anyway BB looks pretty cool overall. Wonder if Hasbro NA will release it on this side of the pond or if this will be an Asia Exclusive thing.

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851897)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 11th, 2017 @ 4:29pm CST

william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I really want that Bumblebee now... *please don't be super expensive please don't be nearly unaffordable*

The price was revealed: $80 USD MSRP

I'll buy it then

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851901)
Posted by william-james88 on January 11th, 2017 @ 4:37pm CST

Overcracker wrote:Anyway BB looks pretty cool overall. Wonder if Hasbro NA will release it on this side of the pond or if this will be an Asia Exclusive thing.

In any case, all of us collectors could still get him from online stores. I am sure all of them will carry him regardless and for that same price point.

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851903)
Posted by Kurona on January 11th, 2017 @ 4:39pm CST

This is just making me wonder why the Beast Wars MPs didn't get their own distinct Masterpiece line when the Movie ones do. Is MPBW just too much of a mouthful?

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851904)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 11th, 2017 @ 4:42pm CST

Kurona wrote:This is just making me wonder why the Beast Wars MPs didn't get their own distinct Masterpiece line when the Movie ones do. Is MPBW just too much of a mouthful?

Maybe since the G1, Victory, and BW cartoons are all part of the same continuity in Japan, the main MP line can incorporate the BW characters, while the Movies are a different continuity (one that even uses the Hasbro names even in Japan) and so get their own distinct "MPM" line.

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851907)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 11th, 2017 @ 4:43pm CST

Kurona wrote:This is just making me wonder why the Beast Wars MPs didn't get their own distinct Masterpiece line when the Movie ones do. Is MPBW just too much of a mouthful?

I'm guessing because Beast Wars is still considered G1, whereas the Movie line is its own universe and style. Besides, I'd rather have everything streamlined rather than having so many sublines the logistics would be a nightmare :shock:

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851909)
Posted by william-james88 on January 11th, 2017 @ 4:46pm CST

Kurona wrote:This is just making me wonder why the Beast Wars MPs didn't get their own distinct Masterpiece line when the Movie ones do. Is MPBW just too much of a mouthful?

I think its because the MPM line already existed and was made up of molds not original to the line. That is why the distcintion was made originally and I think they are keeping it distinct to keep form. Also it could be to distance themselves from Takara, which they are doing a good job at since we are currently not sure who exactly is responsible for this product.

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851910)
Posted by Seibertron on January 11th, 2017 @ 4:47pm CST

I would have preferred a separate designation for the Masterpiece Beast Wars figures as well. MPBW-01 would have been perfect to me.

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851913)
Posted by SlyTF1 on January 11th, 2017 @ 4:53pm CST

I spent time trying to decipher those Cybertronian letters on the inside of the flap on that Shadow Spark Optimus box, thinking it might be saying something profound or hinting at something from the movie, only to find out that it just says "Transformers," and that I was doing it backwards the whole time.

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851914)
Posted by Overcracker on January 11th, 2017 @ 4:58pm CST

william-james88 wrote:
Overcracker wrote:Anyway BB looks pretty cool overall. Wonder if Hasbro NA will release it on this side of the pond or if this will be an Asia Exclusive thing.

In any case, all of us collectors could still get him from online stores. I am sure all of them will carry him regardless and for that same price point.

True. But somehow $80 + Shipping seems a little steep for a Bumblebee in comparison to the awesome sauce that is MP Sideswipe, or even Hot Rod.

Even Tracks was not worth its full MSRP. Though I'm glad to have picked him up for $45 when the opportunity arose from BBTS.

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851916)
Posted by william-james88 on January 11th, 2017 @ 5:01pm CST

Overcracker wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Overcracker wrote:Anyway BB looks pretty cool overall. Wonder if Hasbro NA will release it on this side of the pond or if this will be an Asia Exclusive thing.

In any case, all of us collectors could still get him from online stores. I am sure all of them will carry him regardless and for that same price point.

True. But somehow $80 + Shipping seems a little steep for a Bumblebee in comparison to the awesome sauce that is MP Sideswipe, or even Hot Rod.

Even Tracks was not worth its full MSRP. Though I'm glad to have picked him up for $45 when the opportunity arose from BBTS.

I agree with all those points. I was just saying that anyone who would pay $80 for him at a retail store will still be able to get him for $80 online if he never shows up at retail.

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851918)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 11th, 2017 @ 5:16pm CST

william-james88 wrote:
Overcracker wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Overcracker wrote:Anyway BB looks pretty cool overall. Wonder if Hasbro NA will release it on this side of the pond or if this will be an Asia Exclusive thing.

In any case, all of us collectors could still get him from online stores. I am sure all of them will carry him regardless and for that same price point.
True. But somehow $80 + Shipping seems a little steep for a Bumblebee in comparison to the awesome sauce that is MP Sideswipe, or even Hot Rod.

Even Tracks was not worth its full MSRP. Though I'm glad to have picked him up for $45 when the opportunity arose from BBTS.
I agree with all those points. I was just saying that anyone who would pay $80 for him at a retail store will still be able to get him for $80 online if he never shows up at retail.

Depending when he comes, I will need to pre-order him from TFsource and hope something else/some other things come along that allow me to get the free shipping. I have the Optimus "Masterpiece" and I really want this. Movies were my introduction, Bee was my first Autobot, and I do really love the look

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851925)
Posted by Overcracker on January 11th, 2017 @ 5:40pm CST

william-james88 wrote:
Overcracker wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Overcracker wrote:Anyway BB looks pretty cool overall. Wonder if Hasbro NA will release it on this side of the pond or if this will be an Asia Exclusive thing.

In any case, all of us collectors could still get him from online stores. I am sure all of them will carry him regardless and for that same price point.

True. But somehow $80 + Shipping seems a little steep for a Bumblebee in comparison to the awesome sauce that is MP Sideswipe, or even Hot Rod.

Even Tracks was not worth its full MSRP. Though I'm glad to have picked him up for $45 when the opportunity arose from BBTS.

I agree with all those points. I was just saying that anyone who would pay $80 for him at a retail store will still be able to get him for $80 online if he never shows up at retail.

Indeed. I was more hoping he would not be $80 at retail.

Re: More info and large images of Shadow Spark Optimus Prime and MPM-3 Bumblebee Revealed (1851960)
Posted by TulioDude on January 11th, 2017 @ 8:55pm CST

Wow,that Bumblebee looks pretty sweet!

Optimus looks different.Are they trying to recreate the rusty version of him from the trailer?

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