More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic
Saturday, June 15th, 2019 11:44PM CDT
Categories: Toy News, Event NewsPosted by: william-james88 Views: 28,074
Topic Options: View Discussion · Sign in or Join to reply
While many fans liked the reveal of Takara's Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy, the wow factor wasn't there as much as on previous MP reveals (ie BW Megatron, Inferno, Dinobot). The large presence of beast kibble and the lack of knowledge on the character helped make it seem as if there wasn't as much an amelioration on the original toy, at least visually. Of course, that is partly due to his cartoon being much closer to the toys, so a toy looking like the show basically means it looking like the original toy. But there is a lot more at play here and I will break it down just in case not everyone caught onto it.
For those unaware, this is how Lio Convoy transforms in the show. His organic lion alt mode first becomes a robotic alt mode.
His original toy, left him as an organic lion, meaning that the mane doesn't have the angular and pronounced nature that it does on the show model. But we see it in this toy.
And yet, this MP Lio Convoy has an organic mane and face in lion mode. So, as you can see, the lion front completely morphs into a different robotic form for the robot mode, as it did in the cartoon.
Here are all the images of MP Lio Convoy we did not publish on the site yet, they come from @Chohenkan, @hayatoron, @Masabon2011 and @Portarmy on Twitter.
For those unaware, this is how Lio Convoy transforms in the show. His organic lion alt mode first becomes a robotic alt mode.
His original toy, left him as an organic lion, meaning that the mane doesn't have the angular and pronounced nature that it does on the show model. But we see it in this toy.
And yet, this MP Lio Convoy has an organic mane and face in lion mode. So, as you can see, the lion front completely morphs into a different robotic form for the robot mode, as it did in the cartoon.
Here are all the images of MP Lio Convoy we did not publish on the site yet, they come from @Chohenkan, @hayatoron, @Masabon2011 and @Portarmy on Twitter.
News Search
Got Transformers News? Let us know here!
Most Popular Transformers News
Most Recent Transformers News
News Categories: Toy News, Movie Related News, Cartoon News, Comic Book News, Site News, Rumors, Event News, Digital Media News, Collectables, Sponsor News, Game News, Site Articles, Store News, Reviews, People News, Company News, Sightings, Press Releases, Unlicensed Products News, Auctions, Transtopia, Interviews, Editorials, Collector's Club News, Knock Offs, Podcast, Heavy Metal War, Contests, Book News, Top Lists
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024732)
Posted by Stargrave on June 15th, 2019 @ 11:46pm CDT
Posted by Stargrave on June 15th, 2019 @ 11:46pm CDT
Ok so candidate for the top five most complicated shoulders in TF history list you were working on?
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024735)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 16th, 2019 @ 12:03am CDT
Not complicated at all: it just turns inside out.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 16th, 2019 @ 12:03am CDT
00Stargrave00 wrote:Ok so candidate for the top five most complicated shoulders in TF history list you were working on?
Not complicated at all: it just turns inside out.
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024736)
Posted by Stargrave on June 16th, 2019 @ 12:11am CDT
See, you make it sound so easy
But it’ll probably take the bulk of the instructions it looks nearly im-paws-able.
I just want to say, cat puns are for winners.
Posted by Stargrave on June 16th, 2019 @ 12:11am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:00Stargrave00 wrote:Ok so candidate for the top five most complicated shoulders in TF history list you were working on?
Not complicated at all: it just turns inside out.
See, you make it sound so easy
But it’ll probably take the bulk of the instructions it looks nearly im-paws-able.
I just want to say, cat puns are for winners.
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024738)
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on June 16th, 2019 @ 12:33am CDT
Cat puns are purr-fect
(I love cats)
About the shoulder, I pretty much called it on this figure, considering I saw the organic lion head on the inside of the shoulder. I like this MP, and I think the lion mode is pretty good (better than the previous versions at least) and that robot mode looks spectacular. I have no connection with this character, nor do I know who he really is, I would gladly buy this figure just for his design.
Also, do I spot a hinge on his chest plate? One that may allow for this?
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on June 16th, 2019 @ 12:33am CDT
00Stargrave00 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:00Stargrave00 wrote:Ok so candidate for the top five most complicated shoulders in TF history list you were working on?
Not complicated at all: it just turns inside out.
See, you make it sound so easy
But it’ll probably take the bulk of the instructions it looks nearly im-paws-able.
I just want to say, cat puns are for winners.
Cat puns are purr-fect
(I love cats)About the shoulder, I pretty much called it on this figure, considering I saw the organic lion head on the inside of the shoulder. I like this MP, and I think the lion mode is pretty good (better than the previous versions at least) and that robot mode looks spectacular. I have no connection with this character, nor do I know who he really is, I would gladly buy this figure just for his design.
Also, do I spot a hinge on his chest plate? One that may allow for this?
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024742)
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 16th, 2019 @ 2:29am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 16th, 2019 @ 2:29am CDT
To be fair Nathaniel, I think we all saw that other lion head poking out there 
I didn't realise that the mane changed like that though, I can see Lio being more expensive then Primal for the upped parts count.
I also concur on the chest hinge, there's most likely something behind that door.
I didn't realise that the mane changed like that though, I can see Lio being more expensive then Primal for the upped parts count.I also concur on the chest hinge, there's most likely something behind that door.
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024743)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 16th, 2019 @ 2:57am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 16th, 2019 @ 2:57am CDT
While I have zero interest in Lio Convoy, I do hope he doesn't end up a one off, like Star Saber. Beast Wars II MP Galvatron (although I would love both G1 and BW, naturally) I would really be interested in.
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024754)
Posted by Mindmaster on June 16th, 2019 @ 10:27am CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on June 16th, 2019 @ 10:27am CDT
Don’t get me wrong, Lio Convoy looks sexy, it’s just.... I really wanted Jazz or another Season 1/2 character made.
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024755)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 16th, 2019 @ 10:30am CDT
Same here. I don't think anyone expected, let alone asked for, Lio Convoy.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 16th, 2019 @ 10:30am CDT
Mindmaster wrote:Don’t get me wrong, Lio Convoy looks sexy, it’s just.... I really wanted Jazz or another Season 1/2 character made.
Same here. I don't think anyone expected, let alone asked for, Lio Convoy.
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024756)
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 16th, 2019 @ 10:42am CDT
To be fair, people in Japan might
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 16th, 2019 @ 10:42am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Mindmaster wrote:Don’t get me wrong, Lio Convoy looks sexy, it’s just.... I really wanted Jazz or another Season 1/2 character made.
Same here. I don't think anyone expected, let alone asked for, Lio Convoy.
To be fair, people in Japan might
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024758)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 16th, 2019 @ 10:50am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 16th, 2019 @ 10:50am CDT
It would be all kinds of wrong for this MP to omit the Energon Matrix.Nathaniel Prime wrote:Also, do I spot a hinge on his chest plate? One that may allow for this?
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024759)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 16th, 2019 @ 10:57am CDT
If that were the case, did they ask for the whole series to be represented? If that happens, potentially the entire Beast Wars toyline will be made into Masterpiece.
I'd be fully onboard for that
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 16th, 2019 @ 10:57am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Mindmaster wrote:Don’t get me wrong, Lio Convoy looks sexy, it’s just.... I really wanted Jazz or another Season 1/2 character made.
Same here. I don't think anyone expected, let alone asked for, Lio Convoy.
To be fair, people in Japan might
If that were the case, did they ask for the whole series to be represented? If that happens, potentially the entire Beast Wars toyline will be made into Masterpiece.
I'd be fully onboard for that
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024764)
Posted by Stargrave on June 16th, 2019 @ 11:22am CDT
They have to have the Energon Meowtrix if they don’t it’d be a litter-al cat-astrophe.
Posted by Stargrave on June 16th, 2019 @ 11:22am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:It would be all kinds of wrong for this MP to omit the Energon Matrix.Nathaniel Prime wrote:Also, do I spot a hinge on his chest plate? One that may allow for this?
They have to have the Energon Meowtrix if they don’t it’d be a litter-al cat-astrophe.
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024772)
Posted by Aimless Misfire on June 16th, 2019 @ 1:21pm CDT
Posted by Aimless Misfire on June 16th, 2019 @ 1:21pm CDT
So now Masterpiece has gone full Beast Wars?
Why don't they make some RID, Energon, Armada or Cybertron characters?
Why don't they make some RID, Energon, Armada or Cybertron characters?
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024774)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 16th, 2019 @ 1:47pm CDT
Why not? They are just spinning their wheels with G1 now. As I've said elsewhere, if they are not moving forward with the series, why not just put G1 to the back burner and go for full on MP Beast Wars, RiD, Unicron Trilogy instead? It might prove more successful than they realise.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 16th, 2019 @ 1:47pm CDT
Aimless Misfire wrote:So now Masterpiece has gone full Beast Wars?
Why don't they make some RID, Energon, Armada or Cybertron characters?
Why not? They are just spinning their wheels with G1 now. As I've said elsewhere, if they are not moving forward with the series, why not just put G1 to the back burner and go for full on MP Beast Wars, RiD, Unicron Trilogy instead? It might prove more successful than they realise.
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024776)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 16th, 2019 @ 2:01pm CDT
Not quite all BW, we still have Hound to look forward to, as well as Jazz, Trailbreaker, Hoist and... that blue guy who hardly showed up in the cartoon, what's his name again?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 16th, 2019 @ 2:01pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Aimless Misfire wrote:So now Masterpiece has gone full Beast Wars?
Why don't they make some RID, Energon, Armada or Cybertron characters?
Why not? They are just spinning their wheels with G1 now. As I've said elsewhere, if they are not moving forward with the series, why not just put G1 to the back burner and go for full on MP Beast Wars, RiD, Unicron Trilogy instead? It might prove more successful than they realise.
Not quite all BW, we still have Hound to look forward to, as well as Jazz, Trailbreaker, Hoist and... that blue guy who hardly showed up in the cartoon, what's his name again?
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024778)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 16th, 2019 @ 2:06pm CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 16th, 2019 @ 2:06pm CDT
Other than Hound (and Bluestreak+), I seem to recall the rest of those are rumoured, at best(poor Jazz).
Wouldn't it be funny if MP Hot Shot or MP Bulk Head outsold Hot Rod, Bumblebee, Megatron or Ultra Magnus?
Wouldn't it be funny if MP Hot Shot or MP Bulk Head outsold Hot Rod, Bumblebee, Megatron or Ultra Magnus?
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024780)
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 16th, 2019 @ 2:22pm CDT
I'd love to see that.
Imagine if they made mp Energon Optimus, they'd have to make an mp Wing Saber and an Energon Omega Supreme to combine with
Wonder which character will be lucky mp 50...
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 16th, 2019 @ 2:22pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Other than Hound (and Bluestreak+), I seem to recall the rest of those are rumoured, at best(poor Jazz).
Wouldn't it be funny if MP Hot Shot or MP Bulk Head outsold Hot Rod, Bumblebee, Megatron or Ultra Magnus?
I'd love to see that.
Imagine if they made mp Energon Optimus, they'd have to make an mp Wing Saber and an Energon Omega Supreme to combine with
Wonder which character will be lucky mp 50...
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024782)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 16th, 2019 @ 2:25pm CDT
I've started some speculation on that very thing in the General MP thread
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 16th, 2019 @ 2:25pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Wonder which character will be lucky mp 50...
I've started some speculation on that very thing in the General MP thread
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024792)
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on June 16th, 2019 @ 3:30pm CDT
Galvatron? Or a new Rodimus?
Anyway, am loving Lio Convoy, because this figure is just one sexy looking bot. I would love an MP of that Mammoth Prime too.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually want to buy this MP, it just looks so damn cool.
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on June 16th, 2019 @ 3:30pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Wonder which character will be lucky mp 50...
I've started some speculation on that very thing in the General MP thread
Galvatron? Or a new Rodimus?
Anyway, am loving Lio Convoy, because this figure is just one sexy looking bot. I would love an MP of that Mammoth Prime too.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually want to buy this MP, it just looks so damn cool.
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024793)
Posted by Skritz on June 16th, 2019 @ 4:20pm CDT
Inb4 BWII Galvatron to go against this guy.
Posted by Skritz on June 16th, 2019 @ 4:20pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Other than Hound (and Bluestreak+), I seem to recall the rest of those are rumoured, at best(poor Jazz).
Wouldn't it be funny if MP Hot Shot or MP Bulk Head outsold Hot Rod, Bumblebee, Megatron or Ultra Magnus?
I'd love to see that.
Imagine if they made mp Energon Optimus, they'd have to make an mp Wing Saber and an Energon Omega Supreme to combine with
Wonder which character will be lucky mp 50...
Inb4 BWII Galvatron to go against this guy.
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024794)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 16th, 2019 @ 4:21pm CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 16th, 2019 @ 4:21pm CDT
Either Galvatron would be great!
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024834)
Posted by Seibertron on June 16th, 2019 @ 8:06pm CDT
Posted by Seibertron on June 16th, 2019 @ 8:06pm CDT
Damn cartoon accuracy. Can't wait to see MP-48+.
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024843)
Posted by Seibertron on June 16th, 2019 @ 8:40pm CDT
If licensing is an issue for Masterpiece G1 figures, I don't understand why after 15 years we haven't gotten a Masterpiece Galvatron, Cyclonus, Scourge, Arcee, Kup, Blurr, Insecticons, Perceptor, Blaster or any of the other non-licensed alt mode Transformers characters that are popular. Lots of amazing figures to choose from that don't need a licensing agreement. Happy to get Beast Wars Masterpiece figures, but not in lieu of G1 Masterpiece figures that need to get finished up at this point before we get a Masterpiece Bumblebee Version 3.
Posted by Seibertron on June 16th, 2019 @ 8:40pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Aimless Misfire wrote:So now Masterpiece has gone full Beast Wars?
Why don't they make some RID, Energon, Armada or Cybertron characters?
Why not? They are just spinning their wheels with G1 now. As I've said elsewhere, if they are not moving forward with the series, why not just put G1 to the back burner and go for full on MP Beast Wars, RiD, Unicron Trilogy instead? It might prove more successful than they realise.
If licensing is an issue for Masterpiece G1 figures, I don't understand why after 15 years we haven't gotten a Masterpiece Galvatron, Cyclonus, Scourge, Arcee, Kup, Blurr, Insecticons, Perceptor, Blaster or any of the other non-licensed alt mode Transformers characters that are popular. Lots of amazing figures to choose from that don't need a licensing agreement. Happy to get Beast Wars Masterpiece figures, but not in lieu of G1 Masterpiece figures that need to get finished up at this point before we get a Masterpiece Bumblebee Version 3.
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024844)
Posted by Seibertron on June 16th, 2019 @ 8:41pm CDT
Hopefully not before we get a Masterpiece G1 Galvatron.
Posted by Seibertron on June 16th, 2019 @ 8:41pm CDT
Skritz wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Other than Hound (and Bluestreak+), I seem to recall the rest of those are rumoured, at best(poor Jazz).
Wouldn't it be funny if MP Hot Shot or MP Bulk Head outsold Hot Rod, Bumblebee, Megatron or Ultra Magnus?
I'd love to see that.
Imagine if they made mp Energon Optimus, they'd have to make an mp Wing Saber and an Energon Omega Supreme to combine with
Wonder which character will be lucky mp 50...
Inb4 BWII Galvatron to go against this guy.
Hopefully not before we get a Masterpiece G1 Galvatron.
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024846)
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on June 16th, 2019 @ 9:04pm CDT
Yes, we need that first.
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on June 16th, 2019 @ 9:04pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:Skritz wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Other than Hound (and Bluestreak+), I seem to recall the rest of those are rumoured, at best(poor Jazz).
Wouldn't it be funny if MP Hot Shot or MP Bulk Head outsold Hot Rod, Bumblebee, Megatron or Ultra Magnus?
I'd love to see that.
Imagine if they made mp Energon Optimus, they'd have to make an mp Wing Saber and an Energon Omega Supreme to combine with
Wonder which character will be lucky mp 50...
Inb4 BWII Galvatron to go against this guy.
Hopefully not before we get a Masterpiece G1 Galvatron.
Yes, we need that first.
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024855)
Posted by frogbat on June 17th, 2019 @ 1:51am CDT
Posted by frogbat on June 17th, 2019 @ 1:51am CDT
I reckon there’s more of a chance they give us a new anime accurate seeker at this point... though will likely be 250usd at this rate. Really hope the round off the ark crew though. Basically the last ones I believe are mirage, Jazz and trailbreaker. The latter two have repaint potential (though would be interesting to see how they’d handle the screen differences between trail breaker and hoist) and the minibots.
Re lio convoy... don’t know much of the series etc and I’ve kept away from beast wars mps but I must admit this guy is pretty spiffy, love the clean lines in robot mode, broken up my his asymmetric design with the lion head shoulder pad... clever way to reduce back kibble... shift it to the shoulder.
I’m waiting for mp waspinator to tip my toes in bw mp’s.
Re lio convoy... don’t know much of the series etc and I’ve kept away from beast wars mps but I must admit this guy is pretty spiffy, love the clean lines in robot mode, broken up my his asymmetric design with the lion head shoulder pad... clever way to reduce back kibble... shift it to the shoulder.
I’m waiting for mp waspinator to tip my toes in bw mp’s.
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024858)
Posted by Emerje on June 17th, 2019 @ 3:18am CDT
Posted by Emerje on June 17th, 2019 @ 3:18am CDT
I can't be the only one that's very concerned about how Lio's beast mode looks from the side. They seem to have chosen to start with the most flattering view of the figure to get us excited while leaving the beast mode out of the display. I really hope it looks good, but I'm not entirely convinced now that the excitement is wearing off.
Emerje
Emerje
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024873)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 17th, 2019 @ 9:57am CDT
I've expressed these thoughts so many times myself it's not even funny. Takara stated they wanted to complete each season in the MP collection. They then dismissed the Gestalts, so that is most of the season one and two Decepticons written off. They later keep fobbing fans off with the excuse of "licensing". Meanwhile there are a considerable number of Season One/Two/Movie/Three & Four designs that require no license at all. The answer to that? Release another Optimus Prime, another Bumblebee
Meanwhile, they have released 5/14 Beast Wars season one cast into the MP line within three years. To me that indicates a preference. Especially since G1 MP has been reset twice now with anime+. That it is something the designers aren't all that invested in anymore. That they want to move on to something new ala Beast Wars etc
So if their heart isn't in it and the corporate suits are the only ones telling them to go on with G1, better for them to put it on hiatus and move on. Until such a time when they care enough again creatively, to push the G1 line beyond a handful of regular characters and redecos.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 17th, 2019 @ 9:57am CDT
Seibertron wrote:If licensing is an issue for Masterpiece G1 figures, I don't understand why after 15 years we haven't gotten a Masterpiece Galvatron, Cyclonus, Scourge, Arcee, Kup, Blurr, Insecticons, Perceptor, Blaster or any of the other non-licensed alt mode Transformers characters that are popular. Lots of amazing figures to choose from that don't need a licensing agreement. Happy to get Beast Wars Masterpiece figures, but not in lieu of G1 Masterpiece figures that need to get finished up at this point before we get a Masterpiece Bumblebee Version 3.
I've expressed these thoughts so many times myself it's not even funny. Takara stated they wanted to complete each season in the MP collection. They then dismissed the Gestalts, so that is most of the season one and two Decepticons written off. They later keep fobbing fans off with the excuse of "licensing". Meanwhile there are a considerable number of Season One/Two/Movie/Three & Four designs that require no license at all. The answer to that? Release another Optimus Prime, another Bumblebee
Meanwhile, they have released 5/14 Beast Wars season one cast into the MP line within three years. To me that indicates a preference. Especially since G1 MP has been reset twice now with anime+. That it is something the designers aren't all that invested in anymore. That they want to move on to something new ala Beast Wars etc
So if their heart isn't in it and the corporate suits are the only ones telling them to go on with G1, better for them to put it on hiatus and move on. Until such a time when they care enough again creatively, to push the G1 line beyond a handful of regular characters and redecos.
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024881)
Posted by o.supreme on June 17th, 2019 @ 10:28am CDT
Posted by o.supreme on June 17th, 2019 @ 10:28am CDT
A bit late here but...I've never been a Masterpiece collector simply because they are too expensive, but they do look fantastic. I don't quite get how the Lio Convoy reveal came with not as much buzz or spectacle as Optimal Optimus or BW Megatron? Sure maybe form the average western fans perspective but what about Japanese fans?
Personally I think Lio Convoy looks great, and truth be told, I've always like the original toy better than any incarnation of Primal. If I were to own any MP figures, It would probably be some version of the original Optimus, Star Saber, and Lio Convoy. It looks absolutely amazing. I'm very pleasantly surprised they even decided to make it at all.
Personally I think Lio Convoy looks great, and truth be told, I've always like the original toy better than any incarnation of Primal. If I were to own any MP figures, It would probably be some version of the original Optimus, Star Saber, and Lio Convoy. It looks absolutely amazing. I'm very pleasantly surprised they even decided to make it at all.
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024883)
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 17th, 2019 @ 10:39am CDT
Agreed, maybe let the designers have a bit more creative free reign for a while, working on what figures they want.
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 17th, 2019 @ 10:39am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Seibertron wrote:If licensing is an issue for Masterpiece G1 figures, I don't understand why after 15 years we haven't gotten a Masterpiece Galvatron, Cyclonus, Scourge, Arcee, Kup, Blurr, Insecticons, Perceptor, Blaster or any of the other non-licensed alt mode Transformers characters that are popular. Lots of amazing figures to choose from that don't need a licensing agreement. Happy to get Beast Wars Masterpiece figures, but not in lieu of G1 Masterpiece figures that need to get finished up at this point before we get a Masterpiece Bumblebee Version 3.
I've expressed these thoughts so many times myself it's not even funny. Takara stated they wanted to complete each season in the MP collection. They then dismissed the Gestalts, so that is most of the season one and two Decepticons written off. They later keep fobbing fans off with the excuse of "licensing". Meanwhile there are a considerable number of Season One/Two/Movie/Three & Four designs that require no license at all. The answer to that? Release another Optimus Prime, another Bumblebee
Meanwhile, they have released 5/14 Beast Wars season one cast into the MP line within three years. To me that indicates a preference. Especially since G1 MP has been reset twice now with anime+. That it is something the designers aren't all that invested in anymore. That they want to move on to something new ala Beast Wars etc
So if their heart isn't in it and the corporate suits are the only ones telling them to go on with G1, better for them to put it on hiatus and move on. Until such a time when they care enough again creatively, to push the G1 line beyond a handful of regular characters and redecos.
Agreed, maybe let the designers have a bit more creative free reign for a while, working on what figures they want.
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024888)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 17th, 2019 @ 11:01am CDT
I think this is the whole issue. There isn't really any creative freedom with G1, especially with anime+. They have to look exactly like this. There is no room for interpretation, or improvisation. Every other line has only had their base figures, with a vast chasm between what they looked like in their respective shows vs. their toys aka wiggle room for creative license. Anime+ takes all of that away from G1. They become an engineering exercise, not an artistic or creative one.
An example being MP Dinobot in contrast to MP-44 Prime.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 17th, 2019 @ 11:01am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Agreed, maybe let the designers have a bit more creative free reign for a while, working on what figures they want.
I think this is the whole issue. There isn't really any creative freedom with G1, especially with anime+. They have to look exactly like this. There is no room for interpretation, or improvisation. Every other line has only had their base figures, with a vast chasm between what they looked like in their respective shows vs. their toys aka wiggle room for creative license. Anime+ takes all of that away from G1. They become an engineering exercise, not an artistic or creative one.
An example being MP Dinobot in contrast to MP-44 Prime.
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024891)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on June 17th, 2019 @ 11:16am CDT
If you want to make Cat Puns might I suggest going to a Miraculous forum and look for a Cat Noir Thread.
Posted by Rodimus Knight on June 17th, 2019 @ 11:16am CDT
Nathaniel Prime wrote:00Stargrave00 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:00Stargrave00 wrote:Ok so candidate for the top five most complicated shoulders in TF history list you were working on?
Not complicated at all: it just turns inside out.
See, you make it sound so easy
But it’ll probably take the bulk of the instructions it looks nearly im-paws-able.
I just want to say, cat puns are for winners.
Cat puns are purr-fect
About the shoulder, I pretty much called it on this figure, considering I saw the organic lion head on the inside of the shoulder. I like this MP, and I think the lion mode is pretty good (better than the previous versions at least) and that robot mode looks spectacular. I have no connection with this character, nor do I know who he really is, I would gladly buy this figure just for his design.
Also, do I spot a hinge on his chest plate? One that may allow for this?
If you want to make Cat Puns might I suggest going to a Miraculous forum and look for a Cat Noir Thread.
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024926)
Posted by TulioDude on June 17th, 2019 @ 6:06pm CDT
Posted by TulioDude on June 17th, 2019 @ 6:06pm CDT
Looks really cool,but not feeling the lion mode yet.The others toys can still hold up:
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2024945)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 17th, 2019 @ 7:44pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 17th, 2019 @ 7:44pm CDT
This is a ridiculously awesome and out of left field reveal, and I am stoked! I'm interested to see his accessories and his price, and if he works out, I may have to start hunting an MP-38
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2025011)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 18th, 2019 @ 3:04pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 18th, 2019 @ 3:04pm CDT
Jesse Wittenrich of the former TCC discovered something interesting:
Comparing the sizes of Optimus Primal, Lioconvoy and Big Convoy... the original Big Convoy Toy is in scale with both MP Optimus Primal and MP Lioconvoy (whereas the original Primal and Lioconvoy are a head too tall).
So that means that fans who bought the anime colors Encore Big Convoy can now have pretty much the perfect trio of BW leaders!
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2025012)
Posted by o.supreme on June 18th, 2019 @ 3:08pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on June 18th, 2019 @ 3:08pm CDT
That is cool and all...but I'm willing to bet, in the not too distant future, there will be a MP Big Convoy. THAT is a trio I'd love to see tons of pics of, considering I'll never be purchasing them.
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2025013)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 18th, 2019 @ 3:16pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 18th, 2019 @ 3:16pm CDT
I'm not holding out any hope.o.supreme wrote:That is cool and all...but I'm willing to bet, in the not too distant future, there will be a MP Big Convoy. THAT is a trio I'd love to see tons of pics of, considering I'll never be purchasing them.
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2025030)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 18th, 2019 @ 7:09pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 18th, 2019 @ 7:09pm CDT
That info is really cool. At least if we never get an MP Big Convoy (Though i still wish we would) his new release can scale with the MPs
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2025034)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 18th, 2019 @ 7:14pm CDT
Eat it, original Convoy and Lio Convoy!
Posted by Sabrblade on June 18th, 2019 @ 7:14pm CDT
Heh, after all these years of Big Convoy's original Ultra toy being the smallest of the three, his turns out to be the most in scale with the MPs.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:That info is really cool. At least if we never get an MP Big Convoy (Though i still wish we would) his new release can scale with the MPs
Eat it, original Convoy and Lio Convoy!
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2025038)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 18th, 2019 @ 7:19pm CDT
That original Leo toy is still pretty darn fun though, and it's kinda weird to imagine the MP being smaller than him.
But still yay for Big Convoy! My favorite!
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 18th, 2019 @ 7:19pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Heh, after all these years of Big Convoy's original Ultra toy being the smallest of the three, his turns out to be the most in scale with the MPs.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:That info is really cool. At least if we never get an MP Big Convoy (Though i still wish we would) his new release can scale with the MPs
Eat it, original Convoy and Lio Convoy!
That original Leo toy is still pretty darn fun though, and it's kinda weird to imagine the MP being smaller than him.
But still yay for Big Convoy! My favorite!
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2025439)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 21st, 2019 @ 8:53pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 21st, 2019 @ 8:53pm CDT
Thanks to an image posted by Darkstone on the TFW2005 boards, we have word that the upcoming MP-48 Lio Convoy is going to be coming with an extra figure much like a lot of the recent Masterpiece figures, but in this case we are getting a truly unique one in the form of Beast Wars II Artemis!
For those who might not know, Artemis and her partner Moon were stationed on the Moon of Gaia, where they observed the events of Beast Wars II and reported in on it, and even starred in a send-off segment at the end of each episode. Moon received a figure back during that Beast Wars II time, but Artemis never got that pleasure. So this means that this will be the first figure ever for her, and she even includes her hammer that she hits Moon with!
This image comes to us from a Figure King magazine tease, so we should know more very shortly on what type and number of accessories Lio Convoy will come with. Could a little Moon figure also be in the works to come with Lio as well?
Let us know you thoughts in the comments section below!
For those who might not know, Artemis and her partner Moon were stationed on the Moon of Gaia, where they observed the events of Beast Wars II and reported in on it, and even starred in a send-off segment at the end of each episode. Moon received a figure back during that Beast Wars II time, but Artemis never got that pleasure. So this means that this will be the first figure ever for her, and she even includes her hammer that she hits Moon with!
This image comes to us from a Figure King magazine tease, so we should know more very shortly on what type and number of accessories Lio Convoy will come with. Could a little Moon figure also be in the works to come with Lio as well?
Let us know you thoughts in the comments section below!
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2025440)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 21st, 2019 @ 8:54pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 21st, 2019 @ 8:54pm CDT
I'm really hoping for a Moon to come with Artemis. that would be a great package
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2025447)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 21st, 2019 @ 10:40pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 21st, 2019 @ 10:40pm CDT
For those wondering what exactly Artemis and Moon are, they are androids.
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2025453)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 21st, 2019 @ 11:07pm CDT
We may not need to, depending on her size. Moon already got a toy, transforming too:
Transformers Beast Wars II Moon Gallery
Around the size of a Basic, so if Artemis is tall enough, they're in scale
Just keep her away from Starscream and Scuba.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 21st, 2019 @ 11:07pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I'm really hoping for a Moon to come with Artemis. that would be a great package
We may not need to, depending on her size. Moon already got a toy, transforming too:
Transformers Beast Wars II Moon Gallery
Around the size of a Basic, so if Artemis is tall enough, they're in scale
Just keep her away from Starscream and Scuba.
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2025458)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 21st, 2019 @ 11:36pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 21st, 2019 @ 11:36pm CDT
Eh, not like she ever got to meet either in person, though. Just admired them both from afar.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Just keep her away from Starscream and Scuba.
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2025478)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 22nd, 2019 @ 6:41am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 22nd, 2019 @ 6:41am CDT
Okay. That little Artemis figure is striking my inner week in the best way possible. 
If there is effectively a little Moon figure too, that may just seal the deal for me to finally get a Beast Wars MP figure. Even if I never watched the original show.
If there is effectively a little Moon figure too, that may just seal the deal for me to finally get a Beast Wars MP figure. Even if I never watched the original show.
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2025480)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 22nd, 2019 @ 6:49am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 22nd, 2019 @ 6:49am CDT
I take it she doesn't transform?
Like how, should MP Silverbolt ever happen, he would come with Transmutate.
Like how, should MP Silverbolt ever happen, he would come with Transmutate.
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2025482)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 22nd, 2019 @ 8:02am CDT
Of course not. She's not a transformers after all. Still, she do have articulation points everywhere. I just hope that she will be in scale with Lio.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 22nd, 2019 @ 8:02am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I take it she doesn't transform?
Like how, should MP Silverbolt ever happen, he would come with Transmutate.
Of course not. She's not a transformers after all. Still, she do have articulation points everywhere. I just hope that she will be in scale with Lio.
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2025485)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 22nd, 2019 @ 9:02am CDT
Initially, when the word 'android' was thrown in as a descriptive, I assumed she wasn't. Then when you mentioned her "companion" Moon did transform, I had to check.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on June 22nd, 2019 @ 9:02am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I take it she doesn't transform?
Like how, should MP Silverbolt ever happen, he would come with Transmutate.
Of course not. She's not a transformers after all. Still, she do have articulation points everywhere. I just hope that she will be in scale with Lio.
Initially, when the word 'android' was thrown in as a descriptive, I assumed she wasn't. Then when you mentioned her "companion" Moon did transform, I had to check.
Re: More Pictures of Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy Show a Whole New level of Takara Magic (2025489)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 22nd, 2019 @ 9:45am CDT
Also, Moon is tiny compared to the Maximals, so Artemis would need to be as well (NOTE: Not my pics).
Posted by Sabrblade on June 22nd, 2019 @ 9:45am CDT
Moon is also an android. It was just never explained how/why he was able to transform like a Transformer.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I take it she doesn't transform?
Like how, should MP Silverbolt ever happen, he would come with Transmutate.
Of course not. She's not a transformers after all. Still, she do have articulation points everywhere. I just hope that she will be in scale with Lio.
Initially, when the word 'android' was thrown in as a descriptive, I assumed she wasn't. Then when you mentioned her "companion" Moon did transform, I had to check.
Also, Moon is tiny compared to the Maximals, so Artemis would need to be as well (NOTE: Not my pics).
