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New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer

Transformers News: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer

Friday, February 7th, 2014 5:01AM CST

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As we continue in the Seibertron.com quest to have the best toy galleries around, we are now proud to present the latest produce of the unstoppable skills of Ryan: Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer! The latter is a repaint and remold of triple changer, triple faced Blitzwing, with a new blue colour scheme and head; Rhinox, on the other hand, is an entirely new mold, upgrading his Beast Wars look on a design by Emiliano Santalucia. Click on any of the images below for the full gallery!


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Transformers News: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer

Transformers News: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer

Transformers News: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer

Transformers News: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer

Transformers News: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer

Transformers News: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer

Transformers News: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer


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Transformers News: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer

Transformers News: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer

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Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1548552)
Posted by Amelie on February 7th, 2014 @ 6:42am CST
Doubledealer is a big waste of that mold. Flywheels was perfect for it. Even that Megatron custom someone did with it was a better use.

Looks like Powermasters are going to be one line that Hasbro won't homage during the Generations line... I wonder if Brainstorm is going to be a proper headmaster?
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1548598)
Posted by Noideaforaname on February 7th, 2014 @ 9:32am CST
I'd so get Rhinox IF someone hadn't speculated a Torca retool out of him. I'm not really crazy about getting doubles of Voyager molds, and for me Fuzors > anything.

Darn Sandstorm for making ridiculous retools a possibility. *shakes fist*
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1548601)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 7th, 2014 @ 9:38am CST
Noideaforaname wrote:I'd so get Rhinox IF someone hadn't speculated a Torca retool out of him. I'm not really crazy about getting doubles of Voyager molds, and for me Fuzors > anything.

Darn Sandstorm for making ridiculous retools a possibility. *shakes fist*
The Torca thing is more of a deep fandom desire rather than anything concrete. I'd say go for the mold now if you want it, rather than waiting for something that may not happen later.
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1548653)
Posted by Seibertron on February 7th, 2014 @ 12:20pm CST
Amelie wrote:Doubledealer is a big waste of that mold. Flywheels was perfect for it. Even that Megatron custom someone did with it was a better use.


I agree, and I think Springer with a new head might work OK for Battletrap, but the Blitzwing mold is a dead ringer for Flywheels.

Amelie wrote:Looks like Powermasters are going to be one line that Hasbro won't homage during the Generations line... I wonder if Brainstorm is going to be a proper headmaster?


I doubt it. Hasbro doesn't want kids to lose the heads of Transformers! (though I don't know what difference it makes with all of the ball jointed heads that are missing in collections I buy).
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1548654)
Posted by Seibertron on February 7th, 2014 @ 12:21pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:
Noideaforaname wrote:I'd so get Rhinox IF someone hadn't speculated a Torca retool out of him. I'm not really crazy about getting doubles of Voyager molds, and for me Fuzors > anything.

Darn Sandstorm for making ridiculous retools a possibility. *shakes fist*
The Torca thing is more of a deep fandom desire rather than anything concrete. I'd say go for the mold now if you want it, rather than waiting for something that may not happen later.


I agree! Plus this mold was designed for Rhinox!
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1548655)
Posted by Mkall on February 7th, 2014 @ 12:21pm CST
Nice galleries Ryan, have you by chance tried the Silver Sharpie Technique to improve Rhinox's guns?
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1548664)
Posted by Seibertron on February 7th, 2014 @ 12:29pm CST
Mkall wrote:Nice galleries Ryan, have you by chance tried the Silver Sharpie Technique to improve Rhinox's guns?


I really really thought about it but decided against it since I know the Takara one will have paint apps and I'd like to show off the differences between the two molds. Would love to see what it looks like if someone else does it.
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1548665)
Posted by Va'al on February 7th, 2014 @ 12:30pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:
Noideaforaname wrote:I'd so get Rhinox IF someone hadn't speculated a Torca retool out of him. I'm not really crazy about getting doubles of Voyager molds, and for me Fuzors > anything.

Darn Sandstorm for making ridiculous retools a possibility. *shakes fist*
The Torca thing is more of a deep fandom desire rather than anything concrete. I'd say go for the mold now if you want it, rather than waiting for something that may not happen later.


Also, wasn't Sandstorm the original design, and Springer the retool? :-?

(It's still a ridiculous one, but removing parts rather than adding them.)

Ah, here it is: http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... art/28094/
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1549377)
Posted by Va'al on February 10th, 2014 @ 3:49am CST
Seibertron.com is proud to present not one, not two not three but four new Generations galleries! The Deluxes are here to help you in your recreations of the events in Dark Cybertron, if so you wished: Waspinator, Skids, Dreadwing and Goldfire. The first two are entirely new molds, while the latter are retooling and repaints of previous Generations Deluxes Megatron and Bumblebee; we've also made sure to show them off next to previous incarnations of the characters! Click on any of the images below for the full galleries.


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Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1549409)
Posted by Agamemnon on February 10th, 2014 @ 8:59am CST
Great galleries as always, Seibertron! (Seriously, I think you could sell me the ugliest piece of plastic crud out there. Image )

I have to ask a question: did you have trouble with Skids falling over backwards? I don't know if I have him mis-transformed or something, but he seemed very back heavy. Some of your pics had him leaning quite a bit forward, but I didn't know if that was to get his guns all lined up or if you also had stability issues. With feet as big as Skids has, I'd think he would be more stable.

Thanks!
-Ag
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1549410)
Posted by welcometothedarksyde on February 10th, 2014 @ 9:04am CST
I still want a Smokescreen from the legends Starscream mold.
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1549418)
Posted by GuyIncognito on February 10th, 2014 @ 9:57am CST
welcometothedarksyde wrote:I still want a Smokescreen from the legends Starscream mold.


Huh?

Agamemnon wrote:I have to ask a question: did you have trouble with Skids falling over backwards? I don't know if I have him mis-transformed or something, but he seemed very back heavy.


Many of them have been mis-assembled. Look at the figure's gray upper thigh pieces. If the left one has an "R" on it and the right one has an "L" on it, that's your problem. Luckily they pop right off so you can switch them without unscrewing anything or removing any pins. HOWEVER, even when they're assembled correctly, he's still a bit back-heavy due to his lack of "heels".

Play around with his legs some more; they have stiff joints and may bend more than you think. if you can get him into a sort of chicken-leg stance with his feet back as far as possible and his torso out over his toes, that helps.

He really just needs a piece of plastic to fold down on the backs of his feet; so many other figures have this I'm surprised they overlooked it on Skids.
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1549460)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on February 10th, 2014 @ 12:26pm CST
GuyIncognito wrote:
welcometothedarksyde wrote:I still want a Smokescreen from the legends Starscream mold.


Huh?


Dreadwings' companion piece, the small blue jet oft mistaken for energon Starscream, is named smokescreen
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Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1549461)
Posted by GuyIncognito on February 10th, 2014 @ 12:31pm CST
Ah, I forgot Smokescreen was once a jet!
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1549476)
Posted by Seibertron on February 10th, 2014 @ 1:19pm CST
Agamemnon wrote:Great galleries as always, Seibertron! (Seriously, I think you could sell me the ugliest piece of plastic crud out there. Image )

I have to ask a question: did you have trouble with Skids falling over backwards? I don't know if I have him mis-transformed or something, but he seemed very back heavy. Some of your pics had him leaning quite a bit forward, but I didn't know if that was to get his guns all lined up or if you also had stability issues. With feet as big as Skids has, I'd think he would be more stable.

Thanks!
-Ag


Thanks for the compliments about the galleries. I'm glad you are enjoying them, Agamemnon.

As for Skids, unfortunately he has stability issues. :(
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1549478)
Posted by Seibertron on February 10th, 2014 @ 1:20pm CST
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
GuyIncognito wrote:
welcometothedarksyde wrote:I still want a Smokescreen from the legends Starscream mold.


Huh?


Dreadwings' companion piece, the small blue jet oft mistaken for energon Starscream, is named smokescreen
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Man I so want to finish G2 Dreadwing and Smokescreen's galleries. They're two of my favorite Transformers and are amongst the first Transformers to be poseable like action figures. One day ... maybe later this year.
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1549482)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on February 10th, 2014 @ 1:32pm CST
Seibertron wrote:Man I so want to finish G2 Dreadwing and Smokescreen's galleries. They're two of my favorite Transformers and are amongst the first Transformers to be poseable like action figures. One day ... maybe later this year.


I'm a big fan of those figures as well, and i'll be glad to see the gallery :D

On the Subject of skids stability, or lack of there for, have you tried pushing the lower leg behind the knee piece, for an example go to http://youtu.be/E1hAKCf3nZo?t=7m13s
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1549512)
Posted by Noideaforaname on February 10th, 2014 @ 3:26pm CST
Can't wait to get Waspinator! If only my Target actually had Generation Deluxes (and, incidentally, Legends) in stock...
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1549985)
Posted by Agamemnon on February 12th, 2014 @ 9:40am CST
Thanks to GuyIncognito and SW's SilverHammer. When I get back home I'll check out my Skids.

More props for getting poses that look great in the galleries, Seibertron. Too bad for the stability issues. I like Skids a lot otherwise...
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1550001)
Posted by mooncake623 on February 12th, 2014 @ 10:49am CST
Agamemnon wrote:Thanks to GuyIncognito and SW's SilverHammer. When I get back home I'll check out my Skids.

More props for getting poses that look great in the galleries, Seibertron. Too bad for the stability issues. I like Skids a lot otherwise...



Skids is much better if you have the leg transformation correct. It's not really meant to be a double knee joint. I've had no stability problems with my Skids after I lock in the bottom "knee" joint. its an awesome toy! =D
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1550354)
Posted by Mindmaster on February 13th, 2014 @ 3:35pm CST
Courtesy to the big man himself, Seibertron.com is pleased to present our most recent gallery uploads, the much awaited Generations Legends-class Swerve and his partner Flanker, and Cosmos and his partner Payload!

The much-loved chatty bartender is a faithful reproduction in robot mode, while the vehicle mode is a truck with aesthetics resembling a truck from Earth, whereas Cosmos is a new design that reflects his original Generation One self, but with some IDW aesthetics thrown in the mix. Their pack-in partners, Flanker and Payload, are actually homages to Autobot Micromasters Sky High and Blast Master (who no longer forms the back end of a shuttle).

Generations Swerve

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Generations Flanker

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Generations Cosmos

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Generations Payload

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Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1550358)
Posted by It Is Him on February 13th, 2014 @ 3:55pm CST
How can I get these, too? There aren't even preorders yet.
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1550372)
Posted by jamarmiller on February 13th, 2014 @ 4:53pm CST
yeah, so weird I cant find these anywhere to order
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1550376)
Posted by welcometothedarksyde on February 13th, 2014 @ 4:56pm CST
Despite being cool, I'm bummed by the micromaster homages. Are these really worth the several extra dollars? Or a better question, are these the best things to be included with Cosmos and Swerve?
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1550378)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 13th, 2014 @ 4:56pm CST
RobotKingdom briefly had them back in December.
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1550388)
Posted by It Is Him on February 13th, 2014 @ 5:19pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:RobotKingdom briefly had them back in December.


You're kidding.
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1550389)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 13th, 2014 @ 5:27pm CST
It Is Him wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:RobotKingdom briefly had them back in December.


You're kidding.
Negatory.
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1550397)
Posted by Seibertron on February 13th, 2014 @ 5:49pm CST
I over paid for them on eBay ($68.98 shipped) so that I could bring all of you galleries in time for Toy Fair 2014 and to give me some breathing room with galleries so that I can work on some of the backlog next week (namely Go! and G1 Powermasters).

I bought Cosmos from https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F310852137789%3Fss%20...%201439.l2649%3C%2Fa%3E%26

and Swerve from
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F370992255160%3Fss%20...%201439.l2649%3C%2Fa%3E%26

They arrived very quickly. I bought them on February 5th and had them in had 6 days later on the 11th.
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1550400)
Posted by megatronus on February 13th, 2014 @ 6:07pm CST
Thanks for putting galleries of these up for us! Swerve is great, but Cosmos is just stunning :x

My only qualm with these new Legends is that not all of them have head articulation. To the extent that Starscream and 'Bee can only look forward, the other articulation is awkward when trying to pose them dynamically.
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1550402)
Posted by It Is Him on February 13th, 2014 @ 6:12pm CST
Seibertron wrote:I over paid for them on eBay ($68.98 shipped) so that I could bring all of you galleries in time for Toy Fair 2014 and to give me some breathing room with galleries so that I can work on some of the backlog next week (namely Go! and G1 Powermasters).

I bought Cosmos from https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F310852137789%3Fss%20...%201439.l2649%3C%2Fa%3E%26

and Swerve from
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F370992255160%3Fss%20...%201439.l2649%3C%2Fa%3E%26

They arrived very quickly. I bought them on February 5th and had them in had 6 days later on the 11th.


Good for you for doing that and planning ahead. Looks like ill be overpaying as well in Marxh when I can squeeze them in my budget.
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1550409)
Posted by kirbenvost on February 13th, 2014 @ 6:36pm CST
Awesome galleries of some awesome figures. I personally can't wait to have Swerve in my collection, and Cosmos is great too.

However, the lack of preorders anywhere worries me a lot. I really hope this doesn't mean they may become the latest 'Cancelled Wave Casualties'. Years later we still have no Scout Rumble & Frenzy, and I'd hate for the same thing to happen to these guys.
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1550416)
Posted by spiderbob007 on February 13th, 2014 @ 6:56pm CST
Seibertron wrote:I over paid for them on eBay ($68.98 shipped)


Yikes!! I hope you can write that expense off on your taxes.

Hasbro needs to get with it, they're just leaving money on the table. The shelves at all the major retailers are devoid of any Transformers besides Beast Hunters and Construct-Bots. Don't they know there's another Baytastic film rolling into a cinema near you, its time to sell, sell, sell!
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1550419)
Posted by Blurrz on February 13th, 2014 @ 7:07pm CST
I hope that these get released in the next few months, or else they're probably going to go the way of Windcharger.
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1550426)
Posted by megatronus on February 13th, 2014 @ 7:33pm CST
Blurrz wrote:I hope that these get released in the next few months, or else they're probably going to go the way of Windcharger.

I certainly hope they go the way of Windcharger - $5 at Five Below aint a bad way to go :D
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1550429)
Posted by LordTwann on February 13th, 2014 @ 8:15pm CST
I'm curious if anyone out there is actually buying the Beast Hunters and Constructo-bots, because that's all I see on store shelves anywhere. And from a retailers perspective it's easy to see why we can't find the toys that we actually want. They've already got a metric butt-ton of crap that no one is buying why buy more now when there's a new movie on the way. It's the same thing that happens every year about this time, and more so in a movie year. Only now it's made worse by the horrible product lines that hasbro already had out.

What really boggles my mind is why these guys, and Skids etc aren't available on any of the normal web outlets. Did they only make five of each figure? I think the best we can hope for is another Windcharger/Grapple scenario where we see them in the summer finally at discount stores.

When all is said and done I would really love for some one at Hasbro to explain their distribution strategies because I'm just completely lost as to why they seem to hate making money.
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1550431)
Posted by Seibertron on February 13th, 2014 @ 8:23pm CST
kirbenvost wrote:Awesome galleries of some awesome figures. I personally can't wait to have Swerve in my collection, and Cosmos is great too.

However, the lack of preorders anywhere worries me a lot. I really hope this doesn't mean they may become the latest 'Cancelled Wave Casualties'. Years later we still have no Scout Rumble & Frenzy, and I'd hate for the same thing to happen to these guys.


Except for we never saw Rumble and Frenzy in Hasbro packaging before nor did Hasbro ever have Rumble and Frenzy on display at a convention suck as BotCon or SDCC like we saw with Swerve and Cosmos last summer.
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1550433)
Posted by Seibertron on February 13th, 2014 @ 8:27pm CST
megatronus wrote:
Blurrz wrote:I hope that these get released in the next few months, or else they're probably going to go the way of Windcharger.

I certainly hope they go the way of Windcharger - $5 at Five Below aint a bad way to go :D


I wouldn't panic about this until you see Age of Extinction figures on the shelves. If they're not out by May, I would worry. I'm expecting them to be part of retailers' spring/Easter reset.
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1550434)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 13th, 2014 @ 8:34pm CST
Seibertron wrote:
kirbenvost wrote:Awesome galleries of some awesome figures. I personally can't wait to have Swerve in my collection, and Cosmos is great too.

However, the lack of preorders anywhere worries me a lot. I really hope this doesn't mean they may become the latest 'Cancelled Wave Casualties'. Years later we still have no Scout Rumble & Frenzy, and I'd hate for the same thing to happen to these guys.


Except for we never saw Rumble and Frenzy in Hasbro packaging before nor did Hasbro ever have Rumble and Frenzy on display at a convention suck as BotCon or SDCC like we saw with Swerve and Cosmos last summer.
But they were going to make Scout Class Demolition Rumble for the Reveal the Shield line:

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Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1550450)
Posted by btskillet on February 13th, 2014 @ 10:30pm CST
So your saying we will see them at target after they reset there shelves soon???? But isn't this what happen to rts rumble and frenzy ..... We waited and waited and they never made it to the states. I really want these figures but I don't want to pay $68 for this 10.99 figures
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1550452)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 13th, 2014 @ 10:38pm CST
btskillet wrote:So your saying we will see them at target after they reset there shelves soon???? But isn't this what happen to rts rumble and frenzy ..... We waited and waited and they never made it to the states. I really want these figures but I don't want to pay $68 for this 10.99 figures
We weren't going to get Frenzy (or "the red and black one"), just Demolition Rumble, who himself was ultimately canceled, having only made it to a few packaged samples instead of mass production.
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1550459)
Posted by noctorro on February 13th, 2014 @ 11:51pm CST
Rumble and Frenzy were only released in the Transformers United Takara line, I haz dem. And they're awesome.

Don't know why you people are concerned, I can get them from our local import shop here in The Netherlands.

If we in a silly small country in Europe can get them I'm very sure the US can get them for a normal price.

I'll be getting that Cosmos, looks amazing!
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1550473)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on February 14th, 2014 @ 3:26am CST
LordTwann wrote:I'm curious if anyone out there is actually buying the Beast Hunters and Constructo-bots, because that's all I see on store shelves anywhere.


I have been buying an inappropriately large number of them, relative to my budget. Partly because I like building my own TFs, partly because their weapons and other gubbins are compatible with standard TFs (just finished 'upgrading' Armada Tidalwave's cannons, and just found that CB Megatron's extra bits look good on FoC Grimlock).
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1550493)
Posted by shockblast2 on February 14th, 2014 @ 7:56am CST
I called this a while back, and even ompared it to the RTS scout cancellation. These two, along with Tailgate and the Insecticon (Bombshock I think?) will get scrapped. Unless they make to Marshalls or Five Below. I am starting to wonder if the same is going to happen to ALL Commander class and legion figures, because of the deluxes and voyagers now filling that niche. I would mark it down people. We MIGHT see these two, but with the TF4 line coming out very shortly what room will there be on the shelves for Tailgate & Insecticon?

Furthermore, remember how we saw all those bot shot reveals late last year? That line was dead in the water by last summer and yet we still get new reveals that have never seen retail. Why? Maybe it has something to do with them taking a "loss" on that line and writing it off?? Same thing here.

I would start to worry about the last wave of Prime legions and commanders too. We should have seen them on the shelves by now. We are almost three months out from the last wave release. and again, with the new redesign of the larger toys, what is the purpose for legion and commander class at this point?
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1550494)
Posted by Primeultimus on February 14th, 2014 @ 7:56am CST
Let me just put it like this. I am one of the Premier collectors with as many sources as the best seller around. These just do not really exist outside of Asia except through a few premium outlets.

If you want them I suggest you buy them now. I am worried about the later waves showing up anywhere considering that this wave was supposed to be released in October and is so hard to come by.

It is a shame because I fear they share the same fate as the last wave of RTS Scouts. Perhaps a discount store release is in the cards but may not happen.
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1550522)
Posted by paul053 on February 14th, 2014 @ 10:15am CST
Originally I decided to pass Cosmos but now I want him!!! These new legends look so good, better than the first run.
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1553103)
Posted by MINDVVIPE on February 23rd, 2014 @ 5:04pm CST
They look good, but Swerve has fast become one of my favourite characters, and so I think i'm going to get the Maketoys version that comes with Gears. I don't really want Gears though, so if anyone wants to buy it off me eventually, PM me.
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1553228)
Posted by Va'al on February 24th, 2014 @ 12:00pm CST
Seibertron.com is proud to present four new additions to its celebrated galleries! Feast your eyes on the Takara Tomy versions of Generations Legends Megatron and Chop Shop, Optimus Prime and Roller, Bumblebee and Blazemaster, and Starscream and Waspinator - each featuring the usual Takara metallic paint, and shown off next to their Hasbro counterparts. Click on any of the images below to view the full galleries!


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Generations Bumblebee

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Generations Starscream

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Generations Optimus Prime

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Generations Waspinator

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Generations Chop Shop

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Generations Blazemaster

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Generations Roller

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Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1553239)
Posted by Blackstreak on February 24th, 2014 @ 12:53pm CST
Takara/Tomy does a way better job on their paint applications than Hasbro.
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1553279)
Posted by Razieon on February 24th, 2014 @ 2:27pm CST
Takara/Tomy does a way better job on their paint applications than Hasbro.

Definitely, but they also cost a butt load more, which is unfortunate.
Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations Voyager Rhinox and Doubledealer (1553281)
Posted by Seibertron on February 24th, 2014 @ 2:31pm CST
I'd like to plead the other side of this about Hasbro versus Takara. While I like what Takara attempts to do, I find myself often being very frustrated with Takara's products over Hasbro. Most Hasbro products I can return if there is a problem. Takara Tomy products are another beast to deal with ... so paint chippings, paint flaking off while transforming these toys, paint scratches ... they're a large frustration when dealing with these products. Yah, they might look pretty. But what good does that do when you transform them and paint is coming off of them. I've had this gripe about Takara's products since Binaltech and I feel like the Hasbro figures are holding up better over time.

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