New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown

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Seibertronians, more video from the Transformers 5 set has been shared over on the official TF5 instagram! This new video shows Mark Wahlberg and what appears to be Bay-verse new-comer, Isabela Moner, riding in Bumblebee on a sound-stage, when something goes wrong with Wahlberg's seat! Take a look!

Better buckle up, @markwahlberg! Looks like you're in for a bumpy ride. #transformers

A video posted by Transformers (@transformersmovie) on Jul 25, 2016 at 5:19pm PDT

What do you think of this behind the scenes sneak peek? Any small detail of interest we all missed? Let us know in the comments and, as always, keep it right here, on Seibertron.com, for all the latest and greatest transformers news on the net.

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Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809325)
Posted by Shockwave276 on July 26th, 2016 @ 1:55pm CDT

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809335)
Posted by dragons on July 26th, 2016 @ 2:42pm CDT

As much I'm sick of bumblebee figures I want to see his bot mode will be topless or not

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809339)
Posted by Autobot N on July 26th, 2016 @ 2:45pm CDT

dragons wrote:As much I'm sick of bumblebee figures I want to see his bot mode will be topless or not

...What?

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809345)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 26th, 2016 @ 2:59pm CDT

Autobot N wrote:
dragons wrote:As much I'm sick of bumblebee figures I want to see his bot mode will be topless or not

...What?

I think it's a joke about bumblebee being a convertible now, hence topless. Remember dragons is also using a translation tool.

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809353)
Posted by JazZeke on July 26th, 2016 @ 3:12pm CDT

Autobot N wrote:
dragons wrote:As much I'm sick of bumblebee figures I want to see his bot mode will be topless or not

...What?

He means since the new car in the movie is a convertible with the top down, he's wondering if the toy will be the same, like Sideswipe in Dark of the Moon.

Yeah, I had to read it a couple times myself.

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809436)
Posted by Va'al on July 27th, 2016 @ 4:13am CDT

Via the very active Instagram account of the Transformers: The Last Knight marketing team, we have two minor updates. In one clip, embedded below, Josh Duhamel / Lennox, makes a rousing speech about checking the Transformers Facebook page every Tuesday to get behind the scenes updates from the set (we'll stay tuned for you).

In the other, the IDW people were rightfully excited to spot two comics from their production, both part of the Transformers series (and one issue from when it was still called Robots in Disguise) by John Barber, and one with art by Andrew Griffith (issue #13) and one by Sara Pitre Durocher (issue #47). Just an easter egg, or a chance that some ideas might find their way on screen? Check it out below, and speculate away!

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Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809444)
Posted by ScottyP on July 27th, 2016 @ 6:14am CDT

They have dirt on them because Michael Bay wants to bury that actual good storytelling :michaelbay:

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809452)
Posted by Va'al on July 27th, 2016 @ 6:59am CDT

ScottyP wrote:They have dirt on them because Michael Bay wants to bury that actual good storytelling

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809454)
Posted by dragons on July 27th, 2016 @ 7:01am CDT

Dr Va'al wrote:
ScottyP wrote:They have dirt on them because Michael Bay wants to bury that actual good storytelling

Since when transformers had good story's, rid, armada, energon, it's same as super hero movies enemy of Heros want to conquer universe or earth and good guys win

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809455)
Posted by Va'al on July 27th, 2016 @ 7:02am CDT

dragons wrote:
Dr Va'al wrote:
ScottyP wrote:They have dirt on them because Michael Bay wants to bury that actual good storytelling

Since when transformers had good story's, rid, armada, energon, it's same as super hero movies enemy of Heros want to conquer universe or earth and good guys win

Pro-tip: read the IDW comics.

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809458)
Posted by Kurona on July 27th, 2016 @ 7:14am CDT

It's always seemed bizarre to me that IDW and Bayformers run at the same time - like, on one hand you have MTMTE which is clever, fresh, interesting, hailed as one of the greatest contemporary comics period by critics and has characters and situations that are deep, relatable and interesting on a level never before seen in Transformers... and you have Bayformers which is about as generic an action movie as you can get.
Not meaning that as an insult to Bayformers I just find it kinda funny

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809503)
Posted by JazZeke on July 27th, 2016 @ 9:23am CDT

dragons wrote:
Dr Va'al wrote:
ScottyP wrote:They have dirt on them because Michael Bay wants to bury that actual good storytelling

Since when transformers had good story's, rid, armada, energon, it's same as super hero movies enemy of Heros want to conquer universe or earth and good guys win

Try actually reading the comics and you'll know you couldn't be farther from the truth. Also, reading more might help you improve your grammar.

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809519)
Posted by Black Bumblebee on July 27th, 2016 @ 10:05am CDT

If you read the IDW comics, you'd know that there are no good guys vs. bad guys anymore. The war is over, and the characters are more complex. Starscream is the (elected!) leader of Cybertron... and miserable, possibly going crazy (but is a depressed way, not crazy with power). Megatron has renounced violence, and is trying to atone for his sins... while being put in situations that require him to use violence for good. Optimus Prime has tried to conquer Earth, which sounds bad, but he's doing it "for their own good," so not exactly being evil. Soundwave is trying to build a commune for Decepticons out in space, away from Cybertron. Skullcruncher has become a stand up comic... the list goes on and on and on...

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809526)
Posted by Madeus Prime on July 27th, 2016 @ 10:46am CDT

I'm guessing Bay burns these to keep warm at night.

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809613)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 27th, 2016 @ 2:37pm CDT

Big green tow truck Decepticon's name revealed.

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809615)
Posted by Kurona on July 27th, 2016 @ 2:39pm CDT

And so the tradition of assigning G1 names to green construction vehicles that don't really fit continues. RiD 2001 Grimlock would be proud.

Or, maybe this is just taking a really weird spin on the Combaticons...

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809617)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on July 27th, 2016 @ 2:45pm CDT

...not sure if I'm okay with this, but I'll give it the benefit of the doubt for now. /:)

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809629)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 27th, 2016 @ 3:20pm CDT

Fellow Seibertronians, thanks to several users, we now know just who the green tow truck will be in Transformers: The Last Knight - Onslaught! Yep, seen here on Micheal Bay's Facebook page, the leader of the Combaticons is getting a bit of a make-over as a heavy duty tow truck. We also get a short video via Instagram that shows the newly named Onslaught driving down a road along with Barricade and the rusty van Decepticon.

Nothing can prepare you for Onslaught.

Check out the picture and video along with what Micheal Bay has to say about him, and don't forget to leave your thoughts on this reveal in the comments below.

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809632)
Posted by BluePhirePB on July 27th, 2016 @ 3:30pm CDT

So possible Bruticus appearance?

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809634)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 27th, 2016 @ 3:32pm CDT

BluePhirePB wrote:So possible Bruticus appearance?

Wouldn't count on it.

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809636)
Posted by Black Bumblebee on July 27th, 2016 @ 3:44pm CDT

Doesn't the vehicle have to have some sort of combat ability for it to be a Combaticon?

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809637)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on July 27th, 2016 @ 3:45pm CDT

It's most likely Onslaught in name only

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809638)
Posted by Stealth Claw on July 27th, 2016 @ 3:45pm CDT

Hellscream9999 wrote:Fellow Seibertronians, thanks to several users, we now know just who the green tow truck will be in Transformers: The Last Knight - Onslaught! Yep, seen here on Micheal Bay's Facebook page, the leader of the Combaticons is getting a bit of a make-over as a heavy duty tow truck, check out the picture along with what Micheal Bay has to say about him, and don't forget to leave your thoughts on this reveal in the comments below.

Nothing can prepare you for Onslaught.

I'm excited about this, I mean I have no high hopes for the movie but I like the look of the look of bayformers, and I love tow-truck transformers, so im excited for the toy that will be released for onslought

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809639)
Posted by Emerje on July 27th, 2016 @ 3:52pm CDT

Nothing can prepare you for Onslaught.

Sure you don't mean Menasor or Abominus or something? You got this one right the first time?

Emerje

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809641)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 27th, 2016 @ 3:54pm CDT

Stealth Claw wrote:I'm excited about this, I mean I have no high hopes for the movie but I like the look of the look of bayformers, and I love tow-truck transformers, so im excited for the toy that will be released for Onslaught

As am I, this figure (I hope) is going to be awesome, especially based on such a beefy truck as this one :PRAY:

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809646)
Posted by Microraptor on July 27th, 2016 @ 4:19pm CDT

Black Bumblebee wrote:Doesn't the vehicle have to have some sort of combat ability for it to be a Combaticon?

Blast Off begs to disagree.

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809652)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 27th, 2016 @ 4:28pm CDT

Microraptor wrote:
Black Bumblebee wrote:Doesn't the vehicle have to have some sort of combat ability for it to be a Combaticon?

Blast Off begs to disagree.

He's a shuttle armed with combat able cannons.

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809655)
Posted by Deadput on July 27th, 2016 @ 4:36pm CDT

Or the combat part can be his pure cambat ability and has almost nothing to do with his vehicle mode?

He has a tow truck hook so I assume that will be a weapon of his in robot form and with Onslaught revealed I will not be surprised if the Rusted VW van is Swindle and even Vortex and Blastoff are Cgi air vehicles like Starscream was sometimes.

Brawl is already dead so I wonder if they might tie it in somehow with Onslaught being around for revenge or something.

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809658)
Posted by Microraptor on July 27th, 2016 @ 4:41pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
Microraptor wrote:
Black Bumblebee wrote:Doesn't the vehicle have to have some sort of combat ability for it to be a Combaticon?

Blast Off begs to disagree.
He's a shuttle armed with combat able cannons.

I totally forgot about those.

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809660)
Posted by Deadput on July 27th, 2016 @ 4:43pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
He's a shuttle armed with combat able cannons.

You can attach a gun to a family van doesn't make it suited for combat

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809662)
Posted by JazZeke on July 27th, 2016 @ 4:56pm CDT

I just hope the next movie's figures step up a bit in complexity again, Hasbro took the complaints of over-complication too far and erred on the side of simplicity that time around. The figures I got out of it were just boring and/or shellformers. Hopefully they can find a happy medium this time around.

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809663)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 27th, 2016 @ 4:57pm CDT

Deadput wrote:Or the combat part can be his pure cambat ability and has almost nothing to do with his vehicle mode?

The 1986 G1 combiner subgroup names were all derived from their vehicle modes:

Stunticons: Reckless-driven cars and trucks
Aerialbots: Aircraft
Combaticons: Military combat vehicles (plus a cannon-armed space shuttle)
Protectobots: Emergency response vehicles

The news article wasn't calling this TLK Onslaught a Combaticon. It was saying that the guy who was the Combaticon leader in G1 is having his name applied to this new TLK character. Don't take it so literally.

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809664)
Posted by o.supreme on July 27th, 2016 @ 4:58pm CDT

Deadput wrote:Brawl is already dead so I wonder if they might tie it in somehow with Onslaught being around for revenge or something.

probably not. As we have seen, there are many duplicate Transformers. Also Barricade died in DotM , yet somehow :???:

he is back...

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809666)
Posted by Kurona on July 27th, 2016 @ 5:02pm CDT

Yeah, again; no-one really stays dead. If they wanna bring someone back, they'll bring someone back. I'm fully expecting Soundwave and Starscream to be in this movie somehow...

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809671)
Posted by Deadput on July 27th, 2016 @ 5:24pm CDT

o.supreme wrote:
probably not. As we have seen, there are many duplicate Transformers. Also Barricade died in DotM , yet somehow he is back...

We never saw Barricade getting killed that's the thing we were left to assume he did die but he was still moving around alive when we last saw him and yes I did watch that scene carefully.

And for those talking about rezzing guys back from the dead that has only happened 4 times in the movies and 3 of them happened in one film and the 4'th was pretty much just cloning/transferring his still active mind to another shell.

Only Sam, Optimus and Megatron has been brought back from death everyone else is and probably will stay dead.

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809673)
Posted by Kurona on July 27th, 2016 @ 5:30pm CDT

Deadput wrote:
o.supreme wrote:
probably not. As we have seen, there are many duplicate Transformers. Also Barricade died in DotM , yet somehow he is back...

We never saw Barricade getting killed that's the thing we were left to assume he did die but he was still moving around alive when we last saw him and yes I did watch that scene carefully.

And for those talking about rezzing guys back from the dead that has only happened 4 times in the movies and 3 of them happened in one film and the 4'th was pretty much just cloning/transferring his still active mind to another shell.

Only Sam, Optimus and Megatron has been brought back from death everyone else is and probably will stay dead.

"that has only happened four times"
"only"

Honestly mate, if they wanna bring back a character, they will. Death won't stop them, especially in a movie where it's just a big blockbuster they'd want big names like Soundwave to advertise and draw people in. Enjoy the movies' plot if you want; but you've gotta realise that it's really not made to be brilliant with lasting impact. Death has not, is not and never will be an issue for this type of movie.

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809675)
Posted by Deadput on July 27th, 2016 @ 5:32pm CDT

Kurona wrote:Yeah, again; no-one really stays dead. If they wanna bring someone back, they'll bring someone back. I'm fully expecting Soundwave and Starscream to be in this movie somehow...

They wont only Prime, Megatron and Sam have been brought back from death and all in the same movie not including the Galvatron thing.

Jazz is dead, Ironhide is dead, Ratchet is Dead, Starscream and Soundwave will stay dead too.

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809677)
Posted by Deadput on July 27th, 2016 @ 5:34pm CDT

Kurona wrote:"that has only happened four times"
"only"

Honestly mate, if they wanna bring back a character, they will. Death won't stop them, especially in a movie where it's just a big blockbuster they'd want big names like Soundwave to advertise and draw people in. Enjoy the movies' plot if you want; but you've gotta realize that it's really not made to be brilliant with lasting impact. Death has not, is not and never will be an issue for this type of movie.

Bullshit!

If that was the case they would not kill Soundwave off and he would have made a bigger impact in the movies he was in and they would have brought him back in AOE Bay could have brought Jazz back but did not because death is permanent in these films with only the leaders being exceptions.

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809678)
Posted by Kurona on July 27th, 2016 @ 5:34pm CDT

Deadput wrote:
Kurona wrote:Yeah, again; no-one really stays dead. If they wanna bring someone back, they'll bring someone back. I'm fully expecting Soundwave and Starscream to be in this movie somehow...

They wont only Prime, Megatron and Sam have been brought back from death and all in the same movie not including the Galvatron thing.

Jazz is dead, Ironhide is dead, Ratchet is Dead, Starscream and Soundwave will stay dead too.

Why are you sure they won't? Why are you so sure they really care so much about silly little things like continuity and story in this sort of movie?
Again, enjoy the story and characters if you will... but you're kinda deluding yourself if you think they take any sort of priority.

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809680)
Posted by Deadput on July 27th, 2016 @ 5:37pm CDT

Kurona wrote:Why are you sure they won't? Why are you so sure they really care so much about silly little things like continuity and story in this sort of movie?
Again, enjoy the story and characters if you will... but you're kinda deluding yourself if you think they take any sort of priority.

And why are you sure they would bring them back?

It's movie 5 if they were going to bring them back they would of plus there are more Transformers in history then the big names give the lower b guys a chance eh?

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809683)
Posted by Kurona on July 27th, 2016 @ 5:50pm CDT

Deadput wrote:
Kurona wrote:Why are you sure they won't? Why are you so sure they really care so much about silly little things like continuity and story in this sort of movie?
Again, enjoy the story and characters if you will... but you're kinda deluding yourself if you think they take any sort of priority.

And why are you sure they would bring them back?

It's movie 5 if they were going to bring them back they would of plus there are more Transformers in history then the big names give the lower b guys a chance eh?

I'm not sure they'll bring them back. I'm just sure that if they WANTED to, they wouldn't let anything stop them. They'd come up with some rubbish to revive them.

And yeah, I'd love to give some of the lower guys a chance. I actually wish more Transformers fiction would do that and it's one of the reasons why I love IDW's MTMTE so much; it brings life and personality to a lot of characters who previously had practically no fictional appearances at all. But it's the movies. The movies' sole purpose is to make money. There's no real care for plot and character; no real care for doing anything original or making particularly amazing or stylistic directing; it's just all for the money. That's why they're a heck of a lot more likely to bring back guys like Starscream than start using Sureshot or Siren or Runamuck or whatever. They could - and, in fact, the last movie did feature a Crosshairs in a starring role - but they're more likely to use characters that are a lot more recognisable.
Again, like it if you want, I can't stop you; just realise that they're doing it for the money and plot and continuity isn't going to stop them from doing whatever they want.

Anyway, this is a bit derailed. We literally just got news a few hours ago and already we've gotten back into an unrelated argument this thread seems to generate. How did we get on this optic anyway

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809686)
Posted by Deadput on July 27th, 2016 @ 5:58pm CDT

That's because this is the movie thread we go bap**** crazy here at one point or another.

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809702)
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on July 27th, 2016 @ 6:21pm CDT

Please become Bruticus. Please become Bruticus. Please become Bruticus. :PRAY:

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809727)
Posted by DeathReviews on July 27th, 2016 @ 9:46pm CDT

After what the Bayverse did to Devastator, I never presume that they're going to get it right when making over a Transformer into 'their' interpretation. The fact that they're making Onslaught a tow truck instead of a missile trailer? Doesn't bode well.

Not sure of the reasoning. I mean, when I want a 'combat vehicle' I don't think 'Gee, I'd better get a TOW TRUCK'...

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809731)
Posted by JazZeke on July 27th, 2016 @ 9:52pm CDT

DeathReviews wrote:After what the Bayverse did to Devastator, I never presume that they're going to get it right when making over a Transformer into 'their' interpretation. The fact that they're making Onslaught a tow truck instead of a missile trailer? Doesn't bode well.

Not sure of the reasoning. I mean, when I want a 'combat vehicle' I don't think 'Gee, I'd better get a TOW TRUCK'...

Unless you strap a legless transformer onto it, but let's be honest, that's just a redundant step.

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809732)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 27th, 2016 @ 9:52pm CDT

DeathReviews wrote:Not sure of the reasoning. I mean, when I want a 'combat vehicle' I don't think 'Gee, I'd better get a TOW TRUCK'...

Bro... You must not know how to tow truck properly 8-)

Yeah, I'd definitely take this over a missile truck :michaelbay:

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809736)
Posted by Deadput on July 27th, 2016 @ 10:25pm CDT

DeathReviews wrote:After what the Bayverse did to Devastator, I never presume that they're going to get it right when making over a Transformer into 'their' interpretation. The fact that they're making Onslaught a tow truck instead of a missile trailer? Doesn't bode well.

Not sure of the reasoning. I mean, when I want a 'combat vehicle' I don't think 'Gee, I'd better get a TOW TRUCK'...

Things change get over it it's the 5th movie you should be able to see the fucking pattern by now.

I don't see people complaining about Breakdown being a truck in Prime and people love him despite him also being almost without character outside of some hints.

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809737)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 27th, 2016 @ 10:29pm CDT

Deadput wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:After what the Bayverse did to Devastator, I never presume that they're going to get it right when making over a Transformer into 'their' interpretation. The fact that they're making Onslaught a tow truck instead of a missile trailer? Doesn't bode well.

Not sure of the reasoning. I mean, when I want a 'combat vehicle' I don't think 'Gee, I'd better get a TOW TRUCK'...

Things change get over it it's the 5th movie you should be able to see the **** pattern by now.

I don't see people complaining about Breakdown being a truck in Prime and people love him despite him also being almost without character outside of some hints.

Must you pacify everybody's opinions, man? Just because they think differently doesn't mean you gotta silence every one of them. If they don't like something, then let it go.

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809742)
Posted by Deadput on July 27th, 2016 @ 10:43pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:Must you pacify everybody's opinions, man? Just because they think differently doesn't mean you gotta silence every one of them. If they don't like something, then let it go.

I gotta speak out man only way to vent when I don't agree with other opinions and since I'm part of the unpopular opinion club most of the time that happens a lot.

Can't ignore things I'm sick of just putting what frustrates me in the back of my head it drives me crazy and I don't want to yell in my house and get my family mad at me again.

Re: New Transformers: The Last Knight footage, Bumblebee stunt shown (1809743)
Posted by JazZeke on July 27th, 2016 @ 10:49pm CDT

Deadput wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:After what the Bayverse did to Devastator, I never presume that they're going to get it right when making over a Transformer into 'their' interpretation. The fact that they're making Onslaught a tow truck instead of a missile trailer? Doesn't bode well.

Not sure of the reasoning. I mean, when I want a 'combat vehicle' I don't think 'Gee, I'd better get a TOW TRUCK'...

Things change get over it it's the 5th movie you should be able to see the **** pattern by now.

I don't see people complaining about Breakdown being a truck in Prime and people love him despite him also being almost without character outside of some hints.

Prime Breakdown and G1 Breakdown are entirely different characters who just share the same name. They're obviously not alternate reality versions of the same dude. Hasbro has to recycle names to keep the rights to them. The fandom has been used to that ever since Beast Wars.

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