Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set

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While we do have a video review for this set - from the Transformers Tribute toyline - fellow Seibertronian ExciKaiser has been nice enough to acquire a set and provide a pictorial review of the two versions of Orion Pax / Optimus Prime, both reusing previous molds, but only one with some changed details! Find out more below.

ExciKaiser wrote:Mailman just delivered them :

Not sure if the box picture is still necessary as everybody has saw it, but..

The Two guys together.

It's really a strange set. One of the most detailled and complex Generation Deluxe, with ... ok not the worse, but at least the most simplistic looking and less detailled of TR line.
They don't match at all.

Time for comparison with their counterparts :

VS T30th Orion Pax :

So in the end ?

I initially planned to resell the WFC Prime as I already had the original.
Except now I have it, I think I'll keep it. I can't choose which one is the best. I like the more vivid colors, as well as the neon blue instead of neon pink.
It's the same conflict as between the orginal Supercon armada Prime and the Galaxy force vivid repaint.

For Orion Pax, I decided to prefer him to Kup because of the head before even buying it.
Now I got it, I'm a bit deceived by this head (the T30th was more detailled aven if smaller), but it's still far better from the Kup's one.
The plastic remains the same, whic means this strans porous-looking cheap plastic. Strange considering the WFC got the same high grade plastic as the first release.
And he is as floppy as Kup..

Oh and if you need one more reason to prefer Orion instead of Kup :

Credit(s): ExciKaiser

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Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1899566)
Posted by Kurona on July 25th, 2017 @ 10:44am CDT

Interesting symbol on Pax's chest here.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1899568)
Posted by ExciKaiser on July 25th, 2017 @ 10:48am CDT

The same on sides of vehicule mode.

I supposed it's eliteguard, but after check, it's not the same.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1899577)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 25th, 2017 @ 10:55am CDT

I think the Prime definitely looks better than the original release. The Pax just looks awful to me. No redeeming features whatsoever.

I think I'm tempted to buy it if cheap just to have a look at how the Prime transforms as I've not played with that mold and am curious and dunno if I'd keep it or sell it on. I'd just sell the Pax right away.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1899580)
Posted by ExciKaiser on July 25th, 2017 @ 11:05am CDT

Carnivius_Prime wrote:I think the Prime definitely looks better than the original release.

In fact, that's it, since my post/review, the new one replaced the original on my shelves.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:The Pax just looks awful to me.

He is correct compared to other titans return.
Not the best, but correct.

Putting him on the same box was really unfair. Even the FOC prime for the same era would look bad next to the WFC.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1899587)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 25th, 2017 @ 11:14am CDT

ExciKaiser wrote:
In fact, that's it, since my post/review, the new one replaced the original on my shelves.

Yeah the newer one just has better contrast with that bolder red and darker grey particularly on the chest. That appeals to me much more.

He is correct compared to other titans return.
Not the best, but correct.

Putting him on the same box was really unfair. Even the FOC prime for the same era would look bad next to the WFC.

I don't really like the Kup figure as is though the Takara one fixes a lot of the issues I have with it such as the arms.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1899598)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 25th, 2017 @ 12:04pm CDT

Of all the things that were chosen from the cartoon model of Orion Pax to incorporate into this figure, it was the cartoon model's kissy lips.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1899619)
Posted by Lore Keeper on July 25th, 2017 @ 1:57pm CDT

I have my set ordered and it should be getting to me tomorrow!

Times like this do make me miss Fun Pub and the Ask Vector Prime segments. This two pack is a continuity curiosity, and I would love to be able to get an official answer on which fiction these figures are intended to belong to. My collection display depends on it! :-(

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1899681)
Posted by william-james88 on July 25th, 2017 @ 4:12pm CDT

Lore Keeper wrote:I have my set ordered and it should be getting to me tomorrow!
Times like this do make me miss Fun Pub and the Ask Vector Prime segments. This two pack is a continuity curiosity, and I would love to be able to get an official answer on which fiction these figures are intended to belong to. My collection display depends on it!

These are technically his G1 incarnation since the back of the box calls him a data scientist and both it is supposed to show his evolution (as said in the back). So yeah, this is G1 Prime.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1899682)
Posted by Kurona on July 25th, 2017 @ 4:14pm CDT

It's weird, since not only do we have different design ethics behind the two; we have very different colour schemes and hues as well -- making it all the more harder to believe they're from the same universe.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1899683)
Posted by william-james88 on July 25th, 2017 @ 4:16pm CDT

Kurona wrote:It's weird, since not only do we have different design ethics behind the two; we have very different colour schemes and hues as well -- making it all the more harder to believe they're from the same universe.

Maybe Prime asked drift for a paintjob to represent his changed state of mind.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1899684)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 25th, 2017 @ 4:17pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:I have my set ordered and it should be getting to me tomorrow!
Times like this do make me miss Fun Pub and the Ask Vector Prime segments. This two pack is a continuity curiosity, and I would love to be able to get an official answer on which fiction these figures are intended to belong to. My collection display depends on it!

These are technically his G1 incarnation since the back of the box calls him a data scientist and both it is supposed to show his evolution (as said in the back). So yeah, this is G1 Prime.

That wasn't G1 Orion Pax's occupation, though. G1 Orion was a dock worker in the cartoon.

Or if you mean IDW G1, that Orion wasn't a data clerk either. He was a cop.

Only Aligned Orion was a data clerk.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1899733)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 25th, 2017 @ 8:00pm CDT

I want both Kup and Orion Pax. To bad both will NEVER show up in any of my local stores. >:oP

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1899746)
Posted by deliciouspeter on July 25th, 2017 @ 9:12pm CDT

It's an odd set, but glad I scored one at retail price. WFC Prime looks like something out of Warhammer 40K, and Orion looks like papercraft.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1899794)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 26th, 2017 @ 2:13am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:I have my set ordered and it should be getting to me tomorrow!
Times like this do make me miss Fun Pub and the Ask Vector Prime segments. This two pack is a continuity curiosity, and I would love to be able to get an official answer on which fiction these figures are intended to belong to. My collection display depends on it!

These are technically his G1 incarnation since the back of the box calls him a data scientist and both it is supposed to show his evolution (as said in the back). So yeah, this is G1 Prime.
That wasn't G1 Orion Pax's occupation, though. G1 Orion was a dock worker in the cartoon.

Or if you mean IDW G1, that Orion wasn't a data clerk either. He was a cop.

Only Aligned Orion was a data clerk.

Wouldn't be the first time someone at Hasbro failed Transformers Continuities 101. 8-}

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1899806)
Posted by Emerje on July 26th, 2017 @ 4:35am CDT

william-james88 wrote:The sought after Transformers Tribute Optimus Prime Evolution set, featuring a Titans Return Orion Pax, has now been found on Amazon. And not just Amazon.com, but Amazon Japan as well. While the Japanese listing is a preorder, the American listing is now live and you can purhase this Prime eligible set for $29.99. This was brought to our attention by RodimusConvoy13. Will any of you be getting this set? Let us know in the forums!

Bah! My procrastination gets me again. Completely sold out on both Amazon sites.

Emerje

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1899837)
Posted by Rated X on July 26th, 2017 @ 7:36am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:Of all the things that were chosen from the cartoon model of Orion Pax to incorporate into this figure, it was the cartoon model's kissy lips.

Yeah, I wish they would have given Orion his G1 cartoon helmet instead of the Prime with a mouth look. But it isnt as Primey looking as the thrilling 30 figure so I bought it. Also the Amazon price was right where I felt it should be. Didnt really need another WFC Prime but f**k it...

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1899849)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 26th, 2017 @ 9:06am CDT

Rated X wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Of all the things that were chosen from the cartoon model of Orion Pax to incorporate into this figure, it was the cartoon model's kissy lips.

Yeah, I wish they would have given Orion his G1 cartoon helmet instead of the Prime with a mouth look. But it isnt as Primey looking as the thrilling 30 figure so I bought it. Also the Amazon price was right where I felt it should be. Didnt really need another WFC Prime but f**k it...

Eh, just stick Blurr's head on the Orion body and call it a day.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1899953)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 26th, 2017 @ 7:23pm CDT

Speaking of Orion Pax, I have it right here.

G1 Orion Pax from 1987! :michaelbay:

...

Yeah, I know, it's Crosshair, but just LOOK at him and tell me you agree that it's G1 Orion Pax with the wrong name and bio. The overall shape and colors are too perfect to be a coincidence.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1899955)
Posted by Kurona on July 26th, 2017 @ 7:27pm CDT

Well, I do feel TR Crosshairs should have been a red and blue Kup repaint with a new head

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1899958)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 26th, 2017 @ 7:37pm CDT

Kurona wrote:Well, I do feel TR Crosshairs should have been a red and blue Kup repaint with a new head

BLASPHEMY! CROSSAIR IS AWESOME AS HE IS!

Still, I'd want that E-Hobby exclusive but it's not worth the asking price in my eyes.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1899961)
Posted by Emerje on July 26th, 2017 @ 7:49pm CDT

Heh, just finished writing that I used Crosshairs as Orion Pax when I was a kid in the haul thread. Great minds and all that.

Emerje

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1900050)
Posted by Relic0037 on July 27th, 2017 @ 12:20pm CDT

If anyone is still interested in purchasing the Op Evolution set, Amazon has it back up for sale again here:

https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Evo ... ion+2-pack?tag=seibertron07-20&

They were sold out for a few days. I missed out the first time, so I made sure to place my order when I saw them today.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1901919)
Posted by william-james88 on August 4th, 2017 @ 10:25am CDT

We knew we would be getting a Bumblebee movie three pack for a while but we never had official images, and we weren't sure what line it was under. Well official images have surfaced up on the Snakas blog and we can see that this three pack is also part of the tribute line, which is an Amazon exclusive in the US. We also see the really cool box which has a window showing a garage scene. The words "Bumblebee and the Hive" can be seen on the packaging.

Check it out below!

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1901921)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 4th, 2017 @ 10:36am CDT

That packaging alone is awesome.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1901923)
Posted by Overcracker on August 4th, 2017 @ 10:44am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:That packaging alone is awesome.

Agreed.

Is it wrong I want this set, and may actually want to keep it misb?

Probably won't though. really want to experience those 2 classic bee molds that i've never handled. And of course new Bee.

Though handling may need to wait until my hand heals from its unfortunate accident, 5 weeks in a cast... :-(

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1901929)
Posted by galvatron00 on August 4th, 2017 @ 11:11am CDT

So this may be the way I pick up that deluxe Bumblebee!! I'm hoping High Octane is more yellow than he used to be and that the '77 'Bee is the amended version so the front stays locked in vehicle mode!!

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1901940)
Posted by fruityrobo on August 4th, 2017 @ 11:25am CDT

what is the price for this set?

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1901949)
Posted by william-james88 on August 4th, 2017 @ 11:32am CDT

fruityrobo wrote:what is the price for this set?

Not sure about the price in the US, but somewhere around 70$ based on the UK price and how that usually compares.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1901967)
Posted by Evil Eye on August 4th, 2017 @ 12:24pm CDT

That packaging is great, mold choices less so. I liked the original '07 Bumblebee, but it really is high time we got a more accurate rendition of that design. High Octane Bumblebee is nice, and I like that he's based on a classic Camaro that everybody liked, but still not an inspiring mold choice. And TLK Bumblebee...ech, not a fan. All those hollow bits and that hideous grey plastic.

Granted, I'm not sure what molds I would have chosen as all the good Movie Bee molds were released fairly close together and with similar alt modes, but there's a fair few really good ones (07 Concept Camaro, HFTD Battle Blade, the DOTM mold and its wonderful gun, heck, even Nitro Bumblebee for originality's sake) and these seem like some of the more...forgettable molds.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1901969)
Posted by Cybertronius Primus on August 4th, 2017 @ 12:26pm CDT

itscramtastic wrote:So this may be the way I pick up that deluxe Bumblebee!! I'm hoping High Octane is more yellow than he used to be and that the '77 'Bee is the amended version so the front stays locked in vehicle mode!!

Sorry, but I'm kind of a car need too and cannot ignore this classic mistake. It's a beat up 76 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1. Just had to say.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1901977)
Posted by galvatron00 on August 4th, 2017 @ 12:47pm CDT

Cybertronius Primus wrote:
itscramtastic wrote:So this may be the way I pick up that deluxe Bumblebee!! I'm hoping High Octane is more yellow than he used to be and that the '77 'Bee is the amended version so the front stays locked in vehicle mode!!
Sorry, but I'm kind of a car need too and cannot ignore this classic mistake. It's a beat up 76 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1. Just had to say.

It's fine. Hasbro can never decide what to put on the package, as they have it labeled wrong here too. I'd be quick to point out if they messed up a Japanese make/model/year, not so much on American vehicles ;)^

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1901979)
Posted by WreckerJack on August 4th, 2017 @ 12:49pm CDT

The packaging looks like a stile out of the mid 00's. Needless to say I like it a lot more than some current styles.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1902045)
Posted by MaverickPrime on August 4th, 2017 @ 3:45pm CDT

I'm begging to think some great evil has threatened Hasbro with killing them all if they actually paint their movie figures, the molds are ok, the paintjobs SUCK, I expected an exclusive to ACTUALLY PAINT THE GOD DAMN TOYS FROM THE WAIST DOWN PROPERLY.
Sorry, but High Octane Bee looks bad like that, and so does the new mold, which actually is pretty good and finally has the mini wings on the deluxe scale and remembers that Nitro Bee had the wheels inside the ankles, something no other Bumblee other than the MP has gotten right.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1902066)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 4th, 2017 @ 5:20pm CDT

That box is purdy but the price is sure to be absurd. So I'll just stick with the new Bee when it come out by itself.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1902543)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 7th, 2017 @ 10:54am CDT

That is a pretty awesome set! But I have 2 of the 3 already, so I'll pass

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1902634)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 7th, 2017 @ 5:37pm CDT

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:That is a pretty awesome set! But I have 2 of the 3 already, so I'll pass

On my end, I got rid of so many toys that I see no point of getting a batch like these. I'll try to limit my purchases on only relevant Transformers from now on.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1902666)
Posted by william-james88 on August 7th, 2017 @ 9:10pm CDT

Amazon.com is the exclusive retailer for the Transformers Tribute line in the US and their listing for the redeco of the first movie Leader Optimus Prime toy is now live. The toy, listed as Transformers Movie Anniversary Edition Optimus Prime, can be bought as of now for the price of $79.99. The listing also included new official images. Are any of you going to pull the trigger? Let us know!

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1902683)
Posted by Prime Target on August 7th, 2017 @ 11:16pm CDT

Meh i'll get it if it's cheaper at TFcon i'm more into the Orion Pax/ WFC Prime two pack

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1902695)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on August 8th, 2017 @ 1:07am CDT

Is pretty. It may have been eclipsed by the RotF and Masterpiece movie Primes but that's still one of the best Transformer toys ever made in my opinion. Quicker to actually transform than those ones too.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1902740)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 8th, 2017 @ 10:02am CDT

Such a beautiful figure. Still wish they had used the mold with the sword and the longer antennae

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1902766)
Posted by Evil Eye on August 8th, 2017 @ 12:05pm CDT

The chrome is nice, but the grey plastic kills it, and the lack of the orange fade is criminal. I'd rather they'd nixed the chrome if it had meant the rest of the grey could have been silver.

A shame as that mold looks pretty cool. Sure it's not accurate but it looks...neat. Like, I kinda wish the movie model had looked more like that- blocky and classically robotic but still with the modern elements needed to make it look realistic.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1902819)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 8th, 2017 @ 4:37pm CDT

The Premium version is still the best. Hunt that one down instead.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1902901)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on August 9th, 2017 @ 2:41am CDT

Black Hat wrote: Like, I kinda wish the movie model had looked more like that- blocky and classically robotic but still with the modern elements needed to make it look realistic.

I don't. I like this figure yeah but I was real pleased they managed to do one more like actual movie Prime's proper shape and proportions with the RotF figure cos I far prefer his design over super blocky Prime's anyway. There's been enough blocky Primes.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1904319)
Posted by Rysquad on August 14th, 2017 @ 4:20pm CDT

Orion Pax's Titan Master doesn't have an official name, right?

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1904325)
Posted by ExciKaiser on August 14th, 2017 @ 4:33pm CDT

Not on my knowledge.

Let's call him Dion.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1904327)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 14th, 2017 @ 4:50pm CDT

ExciKaiser wrote:Not on my knowledge.

Let's call him Dion.

You monster! You're saying that poor Dion was cannibalised by his best friend Orion? :shock:

Kidding, kidding :lol:

Seriously though, I'm leaning more towards calling him "Barrelroller", after the eHobby Orion's Targetmaster.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1904792)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 16th, 2017 @ 8:18pm CDT

Baltmatrix actually got the thing and here's the video review!

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1904833)
Posted by DestronMirage22 on August 17th, 2017 @ 12:02am CDT

Man, I really want that Orion Pax (and would also take that WFC Prime too) but the price for the pack's too expensive for me. Hopefully it'll show up at Ross or some other discount outlet and I'll be able to pick it up then.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1904858)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on August 17th, 2017 @ 8:12am CDT

DestronMirage22 wrote:Man, I really want that Orion Pax (and would also take that WFC Prime too) but the price for the pack's too expensive for me. Hopefully it'll show up at Ross or some other discount outlet and I'll be able to pick it up then.

You can have it for $30 shipped from amazon if you have prime, or $30 plus shipping if you don't. Much better than the $60 that it originally showed up for elsewhere.

Re: Pictorial Review of Transformers Tribute Orion Pax / Optimus Prime Set (1905007)
Posted by DestronMirage22 on August 17th, 2017 @ 10:55pm CDT

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
DestronMirage22 wrote:Man, I really want that Orion Pax (and would also take that WFC Prime too) but the price for the pack's too expensive for me. Hopefully it'll show up at Ross or some other discount outlet and I'll be able to pick it up then.

You can have it for $30 shipped from amazon if you have prime, or $30 plus shipping if you don't. Much better than the $60 that it originally showed up for elsewhere.

Now THAT'S a price I'm willing to pay!
If only I had a credit card to order stuff online with. :-(

If these things were available at Toys R Us, it'd be much better for me. Then I'd be able to price match it to Amazon's and be a happy camper.
But alas, it isn't so.

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