Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD
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A Review of Transformers: Lost Light #16
Free of any explicit spoilers, but some may be unintentionally implied.
Rolling out and into your Wednesday
A Review of Transformers: Lost Light #16
Free of any explicit spoilers, but some may be unintentionally implied.
Rolling out and into your Wednesday
Lost Light 16 rejoins the goings on with Team Rodimus, last seen in issue #13 in some form of perilous peril. Mystery, danger, and lines that will be quoted for years await as the latest effort from writer James Roberts, artist Jack Lawrence, colorist Joana Lafuente, and letterer Tom B. Long arrives just in time to keep up a satisfyingly aggressive release schedule. Read on to find out whether or not Lost Light puts those pieces together into something you should pick up.
Cyclonus, aka The Dude
This has never been a book to shy away from difficult topics, and the main question posed by this issue for me is, "if you suddenly find yourself in purgatory what will you do?" This is handled with the characteristic wit and charm that only this crew of Transformers could get away with - no pun intended, seriously! Surreal moments are balanced by grounded ones while emotional moments are bound on each side by humorous dialogue, though sometimes it comes through more as a relief valve for nervous tension especially in the case of Brainstorm. While the thought of funny, quippy dialogue will make some readers roll their eyes, it's nothing new for or unique to this issue and unless this winds up being your first ever reading within the series you already know whether or not that's a positive development.
Put another way, I find the dialogue well balanced and incredibly charming, but recent reminders from some others on site staff lead me to believe that some readers will, for whatever reason, find something not to like in it.
Would you like to buy some encyclopedias?
The surrealism is a significant part of this first chapter of a three part story. As demonstrated in part by the image above, the world that the team has found itself on is part Cybertron, part dreamscape, and all mystery. The creation myth teased in earlier stories is expanded and even debated upon by some characters in what could be pre-emptive meta-humor. Is what occurs really happening, or is it some thoroughly crafted illusion? Does the answer to that matter when you're having fun just following the story wherever it may lead? Your own answers will frame how you feel about this installment. It works for me, but fellow staffer Counterpunch found a lack of feeling delivered by the uncertainty, stating "I don't think anything was bad, but there's nothing to do with the information. Every bit of it is as likely to be false as it is true."
Another mystery, or just coincidence?
The pacing is brisk but always feels natural, with even a two-page break for an exposition dump framed in a way that both pokes fun at itself for being an exposition dump and for still leaving related questions unanswered. While that could have been an unnecessary chunk of story best left to the imagination or a couple referential lines of dialogue, it's helpful here given the abrupt nature of the opening pages. Additionally, it serves as a reminder of a conspicuously absent character, though that absence will only remain conspicuous if it continues for the remaining two chapters of this story arc.
Thok-ing the grumpy away
After three issues away, Jack Lawrence returns to line art duties for "The Everlasting Voices" and provides excellent, consistent mechanical designs for each Transformer while also making sure to playfully use alternate modes where possible and appropriate. Joana Lafuente's colors give superb visual continuity making the changes to and fro in lineart from issue to issue as seamless as possible. Overall it's a great effort and execution, with even the silent (and close to silent) pages managing to ooze story.
Tom B. Long does a couple things with "letters" that are so clever they need their own call-out in this section. Large, outlined reds stand out at one point to convey the tone of the words in a way that makes them distinctly Rodimus' words, and another moment with Whirl is wacky fun that only Whirl could get away with. A less skilled letterer could have tried the same thing and failed miserably, but these examples added to the experience in an unexpected, visually advantageous way.
Lawrence and Lafuente team up for the "A" cover, while Alex Milne provides the "B" cover featuring colors by Josh Perez as seen in this review's news post thumbnail. A colorless version of the same cover is also available as the 10-copy retailer incentive for this issue. As always, you can find images of all of those covers and full credits for the issue in our Vector Sigma Database page for Transformers: Lost Light #16, but please note it contains a character appearance list and in this case that will mean huge spoilers!
Lost Light #16 feels like the start of a part of this story that will put all the pieces in place for a confluence of huge events as both the plot and geographic scope of the series begins to narrow in on a tipping point. The last page contains what is a very big, long awaited development and should allay concerns some readers have had about the pace of the series. While some of the character moments needed a bit more space to breathe, that doesn't take away from what they were and I think the experience of reading a physical, printed copy of the book will address some of that. For an opening act, this is about as good as it gets for me but some of the other staff feedback makes me wary enough to not bump this a notch higher on the numerical score front. Very good and potentially the start of a truly great arc.
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out of Bonus! James Roberts' soundtrack suggestions for this issue:
- Queen - "Let Me Live"
- Air - "Kelly Watch The Stars" (ed. - I second this, fantastic song from a fantastic band off a fantastic album!)
- Lou Reed - "Perfect Day"
- Wilco - "Jesus, Etc."
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Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946081)
Posted by Big Grim on March 14th, 2018 @ 6:54am CDT
Oh sure. I have no problem with most of it existing in the same universe. G.I Joe works, ROM works and MASK SHOULD have worked. I admit, I've not read Micronauts but I really don't like the idea of Visionaries. If they existed by themselves, they would probably be fine.
Posted by Big Grim on March 14th, 2018 @ 6:54am CDT
Randomhero wrote:Can’t deny the passed 2 years has been people ranting “I don’t want this I don’t want this!l” and when it happened it’s been “I don’t like this! I don’t like this!”
Oh sure. I have no problem with most of it existing in the same universe. G.I Joe works, ROM works and MASK SHOULD have worked. I admit, I've not read Micronauts but I really don't like the idea of Visionaries. If they existed by themselves, they would probably be fine.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946083)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 14th, 2018 @ 7:02am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 14th, 2018 @ 7:02am CDT
Good review scottyp, though I feel for the caption of the matrix above roddy it should say "hello, do you know about primus?" 
though I am just splitting hairs.
Just remember, there is always someone who'll find a reason to not like it, regardless of content
though I am just splitting hairs.Just remember, there is always someone who'll find a reason to not like it, regardless of content
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946084)
Posted by Randomhero on March 14th, 2018 @ 7:02am CDT
Posted by Randomhero on March 14th, 2018 @ 7:02am CDT
Yeah they’re not dead. They’re in some form of shared stasis.
Ten has a spark, they acknowledge his voice is different, only dead people that are closely associated with the crew turn up, the stupid Warren makes another appearance out of nowhere, rodimus demands to see the guiding hand and VWOP! There they are.
It’s all an illusion to distract them from what’s actually going on.
Ten has a spark, they acknowledge his voice is different, only dead people that are closely associated with the crew turn up, the stupid Warren makes another appearance out of nowhere, rodimus demands to see the guiding hand and VWOP! There they are.
It’s all an illusion to distract them from what’s actually going on.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946085)
Posted by Randomhero on March 14th, 2018 @ 7:05am CDT
That’s the point of them being in a crossover book with transformers. Nobody knows or cares about visionaries. It was a failed toyline and cartoon. To even have its own comic would have no one reading it except the one nerd who was the one visionaries fan.
Posted by Randomhero on March 14th, 2018 @ 7:05am CDT
Big Grim wrote:Randomhero wrote:Can’t deny the passed 2 years has been people ranting “I don’t want this I don’t want this!l” and when it happened it’s been “I don’t like this! I don’t like this!”
Oh sure. I have no problem with most of it existing in the same universe. G.I Joe works, ROM works and MASK SHOULD have worked. I admit, I've not read Micronauts but I really don't like the idea of Visionaries. If they existed by themselves, they would probably be fine.
That’s the point of them being in a crossover book with transformers. Nobody knows or cares about visionaries. It was a failed toyline and cartoon. To even have its own comic would have no one reading it except the one nerd who was the one visionaries fan.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946088)
Posted by Ironhidensh on March 14th, 2018 @ 7:33am CDT
Spot. Fucking. On.
When the message fits to the story, it's cool and works. In recent years, it feels that creators are fitting stories to their message, and that doesn't work. Even when I agree with the message, I don't want to see it as the focus. Escapism is a needed outlet to retain sanity in this world, and more often than not, it feels like it's being tossed aside so people can give themselves a soapbox to stand on.
Nothing drags me out of a story faster than being preached at.
Posted by Ironhidensh on March 14th, 2018 @ 7:33am CDT
WreckerJack wrote:I think that is a big thing for me too. I don't like politics much. I pay attention because I have to and the issues effect our lives so we should be informed. It's kind of like having constant focus and anxiety over things that we are already dealing with in real life. I watch the news, I am aware of these issues. I want to take a break from them and have a little fun with comics. I want action, adventure, favorite characters and fun! I don't mind some heavy themes, stories that make us ask the hard questions or a little bit of politics now and again. But as a constant recurring theme, it's not for me.
Spot. Fucking. On.
When the message fits to the story, it's cool and works. In recent years, it feels that creators are fitting stories to their message, and that doesn't work. Even when I agree with the message, I don't want to see it as the focus. Escapism is a needed outlet to retain sanity in this world, and more often than not, it feels like it's being tossed aside so people can give themselves a soapbox to stand on.
Nothing drags me out of a story faster than being preached at.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946093)
Posted by Crosscheck on March 14th, 2018 @ 8:15am CDT
Posted by Crosscheck on March 14th, 2018 @ 8:15am CDT
This might actually be a good way to bring back some of the dead characters. I don't see them bringing Skids back(he was finally at peace), but bring back Trailbreaker and Pipes and a few others.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946098)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 14th, 2018 @ 8:51am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 14th, 2018 @ 8:51am CDT
Hopefully, with the end goal of the Lost Light supposedly in sight, the emergence of Unicron and talk of a reboot, the writers will take this to heart and take full advantage of it IE A Movie-style mass purge.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946115)
Posted by Galactic Prime on March 14th, 2018 @ 10:55am CDT
I said I wasn't picking a fight, I was accused of it, did you read the whole thing? Second, I haven't slung one insult at anyone, but I have been insulted. So maybe you should be speaking to someone else regarding behaviour around here, because there is nothing wrong with mine.
Facts are Facts and the facts state the IDW books are garbage, if they were the shining jewels some of you claim them to be they wouldn't be selling so poorly.
Posted by Galactic Prime on March 14th, 2018 @ 10:55am CDT
Burn wrote:Galactic Prime wrote:[list=][/list]Z3ROhour wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Really? Now you're going to pick a fight with an administrator? I can only give you a warning, but hopefully he bans you. You contribute nothing to the discussion and are just trolling.Galactic Prime wrote:Burn wrote:Fact = fact when it's garbage.Galactic Prime wrote:Not upset at all man. I'm just right.
Fixed it for you
arguing is wrong now?
God forbid.
No one was picking a fight, except it seems him with me. Apparently you're only allowed to agree with the majority here.
How is telling you that your opinion does NOT equal fact picking a fight? Reading into too much there mate.
You're more than welcome to disagree with peoples opinions, but do it without resorting to insults as you've been doing.misfire19d wrote:I’m not interested in reading about Transformers that resemble you because you are not interesting.
I'm just over the whole socio-political statements they sneak in.
Comics are supposed to be an escape from reality, not a platform for an individuals opinion.
Wait ... did a staff member just say something negative about IDW? Yeah, sorry but your first statement is in fact incorrect. Staff are divided on these books as much as members.
All opinions are welcome, be it for or against, just accept and respect the opinions of those that don't agree with you. We can disagree in a civilised manner.
I said I wasn't picking a fight, I was accused of it, did you read the whole thing? Second, I haven't slung one insult at anyone, but I have been insulted. So maybe you should be speaking to someone else regarding behaviour around here, because there is nothing wrong with mine.
Facts are Facts and the facts state the IDW books are garbage, if they were the shining jewels some of you claim them to be they wouldn't be selling so poorly.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946117)
Posted by ScottyP on March 14th, 2018 @ 11:08am CDT
Posted by ScottyP on March 14th, 2018 @ 11:08am CDT
On the absences:
Anode and Lug I figure was just page space. We'll see.
I think Chromedome and Rewind are being saved for something where they run into Chromedome's seven evil exes former conjunx and bad things happen.
Rung I can't figure out. However, I bet it will be resolution to the part during the beginning of S2 where the quantum duplicate LL was stated to have "lost" him during the initial explosion on launch day.
Anode and Lug I figure was just page space. We'll see.
I think Chromedome and Rewind are being saved for something where they run into Chromedome's seven evil exes former conjunx and bad things happen.
Rung I can't figure out. However, I bet it will be resolution to the part during the beginning of S2 where the quantum duplicate LL was stated to have "lost" him during the initial explosion on launch day.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946126)
Posted by Va'al on March 14th, 2018 @ 11:40am CDT
Posted by Va'al on March 14th, 2018 @ 11:40am CDT
Points I raised too late with Scotty, that I was thinking about pre-review:
- Ten legitimately upset me. A somewhat 'positive' shock value death.
- Some of the humour used throughout felt like it didn't always land, or at least gave the feeling of jittery giggles to cover everything not being good.
- Probably one of the better Rodimus issues so far.
- Whirl is still great.
- Following both points above, probably also one of Lawrence's strongest work, also thanks to silent opener , Rodimus and Whirl moments (Ratchet too)
But mostly:
- Very innnnnteresting lettering work on dead and death - may or may not be of significance that it can't really be repeated in same way too often. I actually went through and looked at it, and between bold, italics, regular, fancy lettering and highlights, there is only one actual repetition of the word dead or died. Visual font humour has been used this prominently sparingly before, such as The Scavengers, so this stood out to me!
- Ten legitimately upset me. A somewhat 'positive' shock value death.
- Some of the humour used throughout felt like it didn't always land, or at least gave the feeling of jittery giggles to cover everything not being good.
- Probably one of the better Rodimus issues so far.
- Whirl is still great.
- Following both points above, probably also one of Lawrence's strongest work, also thanks to silent opener , Rodimus and Whirl moments (Ratchet too)
But mostly:
- Very innnnnteresting lettering work on dead and death - may or may not be of significance that it can't really be repeated in same way too often. I actually went through and looked at it, and between bold, italics, regular, fancy lettering and highlights, there is only one actual repetition of the word dead or died. Visual font humour has been used this prominently sparingly before, such as The Scavengers, so this stood out to me!
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946129)
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on March 14th, 2018 @ 12:04pm CDT
That humor really is a little jarring. Not that it’s bad per se, but’s it’s almost like it’s covering the story’s tracks or making up for a couple empty moments. But that’s just a small complaint of mine, there’s so much good happening now in LL, finally.
Truthfully, I don’t think anything is what it seems. Not Getaway finding “Cyberuoptia” (lookin way different than its supposed appearance with skids in issue 21 I think), not anything happening in Skip. And now we have even more mystery in the Grand Architect/Scorponok/Knight House stuff.
Not to mention, the Worldsweeper crashes into the White House in OP’s vision in All Hail Optimus. Even with all this potential IDW-ending stuff coming up maybe, I think ultimately Lost Light is going to come back around to significant importance and tie everything off.
Part of the reason why I started not liking the later MTMTE and LL is because the impact on the overall TF universe felt so much less, like everything else is almost happening in a totally different universe.
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on March 14th, 2018 @ 12:04pm CDT
Va'al wrote:Points I raised too late with Scotty, that I was thinking about pre-review:
- Ten legitimately upset me. A somewhat 'positive' shock value death.
- Some of the humour used throughout felt like it didn't always land, or at least gave the feeling of jittery giggles to cover everything not being good.
- Probably one of the better Rodimus issues so far.
- Whirl is still great.
- Following both points above, probably also one of Lawrence's strongest work, also thanks to silent opener , Rodimus and Whirl moments (Ratchet too)
But mostly:
- Very innnnnteresting lettering work on dead and death - may or may not be of significance that it can't really be repeated in same way too often. I actually went through and looked at it, and between bold, italics, regular, fancy lettering and highlights, there is only one actual repetition of the word dead or died. Visual font humour has been used this prominently sparingly before, such as The Scavengers, so this stood out to me!
That humor really is a little jarring. Not that it’s bad per se, but’s it’s almost like it’s covering the story’s tracks or making up for a couple empty moments. But that’s just a small complaint of mine, there’s so much good happening now in LL, finally.
Truthfully, I don’t think anything is what it seems. Not Getaway finding “Cyberuoptia” (lookin way different than its supposed appearance with skids in issue 21 I think), not anything happening in Skip. And now we have even more mystery in the Grand Architect/Scorponok/Knight House stuff.
Not to mention, the Worldsweeper crashes into the White House in OP’s vision in All Hail Optimus. Even with all this potential IDW-ending stuff coming up maybe, I think ultimately Lost Light is going to come back around to significant importance and tie everything off.
Part of the reason why I started not liking the later MTMTE and LL is because the impact on the overall TF universe felt so much less, like everything else is almost happening in a totally different universe.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946165)
Posted by Burn on March 14th, 2018 @ 4:13pm CDT
Posted by Burn on March 14th, 2018 @ 4:13pm CDT
Thoughts ... not a review, because people hated it when I reviewed books
This was a good, balanced issue.
It had a nice balance between the good and the bad that have divided fans over this series.
Whirl ... we really need more Whirl. His brutal honesty really shines in this issue. As does Rodimus' hot headedness, for once I actually didn't hate Rodimus.
There wasn't any connection back to some plot point from X years ago, something this book is notorious for, something I truly detest about this book. It's a straight up "here and now".
Admittedly the book doesn't really answer any questions (in fact I was left disappointed with the "OMG! TEN CAN SPEAK!" arc), but it does end in a way that leaves me looking forward to the next issue.
It's not the sort of issue that would win back fans who have given up on the comic, but for those of us who are holding on, many of you should enjoy it.
But seriously, we need more Whirl.
This was a good, balanced issue.
It had a nice balance between the good and the bad that have divided fans over this series.
Whirl ... we really need more Whirl. His brutal honesty really shines in this issue. As does Rodimus' hot headedness, for once I actually didn't hate Rodimus.
There wasn't any connection back to some plot point from X years ago, something this book is notorious for, something I truly detest about this book. It's a straight up "here and now".
Admittedly the book doesn't really answer any questions (in fact I was left disappointed with the "OMG! TEN CAN SPEAK!" arc), but it does end in a way that leaves me looking forward to the next issue.
It's not the sort of issue that would win back fans who have given up on the comic, but for those of us who are holding on, many of you should enjoy it.
But seriously, we need more Whirl.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946169)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 14th, 2018 @ 4:55pm CDT
Given its very plot, I don't think there's much that ll could do that would affect the overall state of the universe. Unless they pulled a "Q Who/best of both worlds" scenario wherein the ll encountered a threat (let's say the swarm for example) and managed to get away while the swarm, now having a taste for cybertonian, travelled and attack prime and Co.
While it can feel like different universes, I picture it more like the avengers and guardians of the galaxy, you know that they are connected but the threats they face rarely matter to the other (talking comics here)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 14th, 2018 @ 4:55pm CDT
Stormshot_Prime wrote:Va'al wrote:Points I raised too late with Scotty, that I was thinking about pre-review:
- Ten legitimately upset me. A somewhat 'positive' shock value death.
- Some of the humour used throughout felt like it didn't always land, or at least gave the feeling of jittery giggles to cover everything not being good.
- Probably one of the better Rodimus issues so far.
- Whirl is still great.
- Following both points above, probably also one of Lawrence's strongest work, also thanks to silent opener , Rodimus and Whirl moments (Ratchet too)
But mostly:
- Very innnnnteresting lettering work on dead and death - may or may not be of significance that it can't really be repeated in same way too often. I actually went through and looked at it, and between bold, italics, regular, fancy lettering and highlights, there is only one actual repetition of the word dead or died. Visual font humour has been used this prominently sparingly before, such as The Scavengers, so this stood out to me!
That humor really is a little jarring. Not that it’s bad per se, but’s it’s almost like it’s covering the story’s tracks or making up for a couple empty moments. But that’s just a small complaint of mine, there’s so much good happening now in LL, finally.
Truthfully, I don’t think anything is what it seems. Not Getaway finding “Cyberuoptia” (lookin way different than its supposed appearance with skids in issue 21 I think), not anything happening in Skip. And now we have even more mystery in the Grand Architect/Scorponok/Knight House stuff.
Not to mention, the Worldsweeper crashes into the White House in OP’s vision in All Hail Optimus. Even with all this potential IDW-ending stuff coming up maybe, I think ultimately Lost Light is going to come back around to significant importance and tie everything off.
Part of the reason why I started not liking the later MTMTE and LL is because the impact on the overall TF universe felt so much less, like everything else is almost happening in a totally different universe.
Given its very plot, I don't think there's much that ll could do that would affect the overall state of the universe. Unless they pulled a "Q Who/best of both worlds" scenario wherein the ll encountered a threat (let's say the swarm for example) and managed to get away while the swarm, now having a taste for cybertonian, travelled and attack prime and Co.
While it can feel like different universes, I picture it more like the avengers and guardians of the galaxy, you know that they are connected but the threats they face rarely matter to the other (talking comics here)
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946210)
Posted by Ironhidensh on March 14th, 2018 @ 8:13pm CDT
Posted by Ironhidensh on March 14th, 2018 @ 8:13pm CDT
Found this on the book of faces tonight. I like it.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946268)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 15th, 2018 @ 2:53am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 15th, 2018 @ 2:53am CDT
That's awesome
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946271)
Posted by Sagitta on March 15th, 2018 @ 3:09am CDT
Posted by Sagitta on March 15th, 2018 @ 3:09am CDT
Dunno about anyone else...but notice that aside from Chromedome & Rewind our favorite "historical constant" has been missing since everyone abandoned Skip?
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946315)
Posted by Big Grim on March 15th, 2018 @ 11:02am CDT
Posted by Big Grim on March 15th, 2018 @ 11:02am CDT
I loved this issue. Plenty of interesting stuff going on. I admit, I felt absurdly happy when Cyclonus found Tailgate. It was sweet.
Agree that we need more Whirl. He was a joy in this issue. Rodimus amused me rather a lot too.
Agree that we need more Whirl. He was a joy in this issue. Rodimus amused me rather a lot too.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946338)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 15th, 2018 @ 1:40pm CDT
I'd forgotten Cyclonus did have a design in Animated.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 15th, 2018 @ 1:40pm CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:Found this on the book of faces tonight. I like it.
I'd forgotten Cyclonus did have a design in Animated.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946361)
Posted by Va'al on March 15th, 2018 @ 3:47pm CDT
Posted by Va'al on March 15th, 2018 @ 3:47pm CDT
As issue #16 of IDW Publishing's ongoing comics series Transformers: Lost Light hit the stands (digital and less so) this week, we also have some more artwork for the upcoming issue #17 - the second part of this new story arc - for the two Jack Lawrence variant covers that will feature on the issue: one with a very ascending Ultra Magnus, and one with a defiant Rodimus in the faces of the Guiding Hand. Check them out below, and join the conversation in the Energon Pub!
Transformers: Lost Light #17
(W) James Roberts (A/CA) Jack Lawrence
"The Everlasting Voices," Part 2! Hot Rod and company are dead. The Allspark is real. And Hot Rod is about to meet his maker(s)! Oh, Primus! Somebody stop him!
In Shops: Apr 25, 2018
SRP: $3.99
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946385)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 15th, 2018 @ 6:07pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 15th, 2018 @ 6:07pm CDT
Looking at that Magnus cover, I'm getting flashbacks of TFA Prowl.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946392)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 15th, 2018 @ 6:42pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 15th, 2018 @ 6:42pm CDT
Nice covers there, so aside from if this is actually happening or not, is roddy about to his his feet where his mouth is?
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946398)
Posted by Ironhidensh on March 15th, 2018 @ 7:03pm CDT
Posted by Ironhidensh on March 15th, 2018 @ 7:03pm CDT
Out of all the Transformers, Rodimus is probably the only one with enough ego, and enough decency, to hold his own in a convo with the gods.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946442)
Posted by Hydrargyrus on March 15th, 2018 @ 9:32pm CDT
Just imagine Sky Lynx.
Posted by Hydrargyrus on March 15th, 2018 @ 9:32pm CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:Out of all the Transformers, Rodimus is probably the only one with enough ego, and enough decency, to hold his own in a convo with the gods.
Just imagine Sky Lynx.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946462)
Posted by Seibertron on March 16th, 2018 @ 12:19am CDT
He'd say something conceited to the powers-that-be. You know he would!
Posted by Seibertron on March 16th, 2018 @ 12:19am CDT
MagicDeath wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:Out of all the Transformers, Rodimus is probably the only one with enough ego, and enough decency, to hold his own in a convo with the gods.
Just imagine Sky Lynx.
He'd say something conceited to the powers-that-be. You know he would!
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946487)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 16th, 2018 @ 6:58am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 16th, 2018 @ 6:58am CDT
Funny aside,
As I've mentioned, I am currently collecting a TF part-work. Covering all Transformers comics from Marvel to IDW. The newest two arrived today: IDWverse - Titan's Return and The Dying of The Light. Now I haven't read anything recent outside of this part-work since Death of Optimus Prime, so this collection is very informative. But I digress, it was the cover image for the MTMTE story that amused me....
As I've mentioned, I am currently collecting a TF part-work. Covering all Transformers comics from Marvel to IDW. The newest two arrived today: IDWverse - Titan's Return and The Dying of The Light. Now I haven't read anything recent outside of this part-work since Death of Optimus Prime, so this collection is very informative. But I digress, it was the cover image for the MTMTE story that amused me....
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946501)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 16th, 2018 @ 8:31am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 16th, 2018 @ 8:31am CDT
You the fact they went with g1 design cyclonus and not how he looks for idw? I've seen it many times on collections like that. Although I do question the release list of books like that...I thought a release order would be best as dying of the light wraps up a few storyline from MTMTE
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946503)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 16th, 2018 @ 8:35am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 16th, 2018 @ 8:35am CDT
Easy to forget how good the original Cyclonus design looks, minus the Sunbow "make up".
The release order of these books seems very random. One of the previous books to these, was part two of Dark Cybertron. A lot of context was missing from that one too.
The release order of these books seems very random. One of the previous books to these, was part two of Dark Cybertron. A lot of context was missing from that one too.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946678)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 17th, 2018 @ 9:32am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 17th, 2018 @ 9:32am CDT
So I finished reading The Dying of The Light. The first story I've read that gives me a flavour of what MTMTE/LL is all about.
I read in voices IE Cullen for Prime, Angel for Cyclonus, Nelson for Hot Rod, Stack for Ultra Magnus etc. It adds to my immersion if I can authentically hear what I'm reading in one of those voices. This is my first problem with MTMTE.
Now I understand I am missing a lot of context, so I can't really judge the story, setting etc. Yet when it comes to the dialogue, I take issue. Auto-Megatron doesn't sound like Welker, he sounds like Kaye. Not a bad thing as I think David Kaye was a better Megatron, voice and in characterisation. However, -Ations Megatron does sound like Welker. So you can see my disparity. This applies across the board. So far in everything post DoOP I've read, the only one that sounds authentic is Prime.
Second issue being one from a Con Fan focused viewpoint. Everyone looks the same! I don't know if this was by design or intention. The close up I just looked at, was that Getaway? Or Brainstorm? Or Chromedome? or Rewind? About mid-story I struggled to tell which was the Blue one or the Red one, Swerve or Tailgate? Doesn't really help get someone invested in a book when you can only tell a handful of distinct main characters apart from the rest of the cast.
Off to read Titan's Return now...
I read in voices IE Cullen for Prime, Angel for Cyclonus, Nelson for Hot Rod, Stack for Ultra Magnus etc. It adds to my immersion if I can authentically hear what I'm reading in one of those voices. This is my first problem with MTMTE.
Now I understand I am missing a lot of context, so I can't really judge the story, setting etc. Yet when it comes to the dialogue, I take issue. Auto-Megatron doesn't sound like Welker, he sounds like Kaye. Not a bad thing as I think David Kaye was a better Megatron, voice and in characterisation. However, -Ations Megatron does sound like Welker. So you can see my disparity. This applies across the board. So far in everything post DoOP I've read, the only one that sounds authentic is Prime.
Second issue being one from a Con Fan focused viewpoint. Everyone looks the same! I don't know if this was by design or intention. The close up I just looked at, was that Getaway? Or Brainstorm? Or Chromedome? or Rewind? About mid-story I struggled to tell which was the Blue one or the Red one, Swerve or Tailgate? Doesn't really help get someone invested in a book when you can only tell a handful of distinct main characters apart from the rest of the cast.
Off to read Titan's Return now...
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946782)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 18th, 2018 @ 2:19am CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 18th, 2018 @ 2:19am CDT
"Dying of the Light" and "Titans Return." 2 stories that disappointed me. They both started very good and the 2nd half just took a nosedive. I will say that I have yet to read TAAO volume 2, which is supposed to be the conclusion of the TR story. From what I understand the story gets better somewhat. I think Roberts wrote the garbage parts of TR, and it was the disintegration of the story in DotL that made me realize just how inadequate a TF writer Roberts really is.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946784)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 18th, 2018 @ 2:48am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 18th, 2018 @ 2:48am CDT
I still find it a bit odd that they aren't even attempting to do a tie in for potp. I mean in a way I don't mind as it let's barber and Roberts get on with their stories but does this mean that hasbro are going to let idw decide if they want to provide a link to the toy line?
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946795)
Posted by Va'al on March 18th, 2018 @ 5:01am CDT
I mean, there's plenty of Primes action going down in Optimus Prime, after the introduction in TAAO. And Alpha Trion has been around since forever, with Micronus showing up in Micronauts and Revolution. Maybe it's not a direct tie-in like Titans Return, but the elements are there!
Posted by Va'al on March 18th, 2018 @ 5:01am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:I still find it a bit odd that they aren't even attempting to do a tie in for potp. I mean in a way I don't mind as it let's barber and Roberts get on with their stories but does this mean that hasbro are going to let idw decide if they want to provide a link to the toy line?
I mean, there's plenty of Primes action going down in Optimus Prime, after the introduction in TAAO. And Alpha Trion has been around since forever, with Micronus showing up in Micronauts and Revolution. Maybe it's not a direct tie-in like Titans Return, but the elements are there!
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946806)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 18th, 2018 @ 6:44am CDT
So yeah, finished reading Titans Return.. Lame. The book starts off with a story of how the Combaticons first formed into Bruticus. Is it just me or have the Gestalts been heavily nerfed since their introduction via Monstructor? Bruticus, noted for being one of the strongest and most heavily armoured of all Transformers, is defeated by one shot in the eye in a single panel.
Then we have the return of "fan favourite" Sentinel Prime
A bit player in Megatron: Origin, now given the same one dimensional motivation as virtually every other "Evil Prime". Oh he's also a Headmaster.. Even though I seem to recall that tech being introduced on Earth, via Scorponok.
Also returning from the dead (ala LSoTW) is Fort Max, apparently? Yet another rushed ending closes this one out too. Off panel 'death by smoke stack' one of the laziest, most plot convenient tropes there is.
I am really glad I didn't spend actual money following RiD/OP/MTMTE/LL... If these stories are an indicator, they're better than McCarthy and Costa, but not by much. It's really disappointing how far the quality of IDWverse has fallen since the -Ations.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 18th, 2018 @ 6:44am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:"Dying of the Light" and "Titans Return." 2 stories that disappointed me. They both started very good and the 2nd half just took a nosedive. I will say that I have yet to read TAAO volume 2, which is supposed to be the conclusion of the TR story. From what I understand the story gets better somewhat. I think Roberts wrote the garbage parts of TR, and it was the disintegration of the story in DotL that made me realize just how inadequate a TF writer Roberts really is.
So yeah, finished reading Titans Return.. Lame. The book starts off with a story of how the Combaticons first formed into Bruticus. Is it just me or have the Gestalts been heavily nerfed since their introduction via Monstructor? Bruticus, noted for being one of the strongest and most heavily armoured of all Transformers, is defeated by one shot in the eye in a single panel.
Then we have the return of "fan favourite" Sentinel Prime
A bit player in Megatron: Origin, now given the same one dimensional motivation as virtually every other "Evil Prime". Oh he's also a Headmaster.. Even though I seem to recall that tech being introduced on Earth, via Scorponok.Also returning from the dead (ala LSoTW) is Fort Max, apparently? Yet another rushed ending closes this one out too. Off panel 'death by smoke stack' one of the laziest, most plot convenient tropes there is.
I am really glad I didn't spend actual money following RiD/OP/MTMTE/LL... If these stories are an indicator, they're better than McCarthy and Costa, but not by much. It's really disappointing how far the quality of IDWverse has fallen since the -Ations.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946813)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 18th, 2018 @ 7:41am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 18th, 2018 @ 7:41am CDT
Fort was alive all the time in MTMTE, as he's reckless when he runs into overlord again (a separate encounter from before dying of the light and after lsotw)
Sentinel became a headmaster because it had to tie in to the titans return toy line where sentinel was a wave one voyager (basically he was there to get another use out of the mold before astrotrain was released)
As for change in combiners, this is because of the shift, we had nexus prime (now the first combiner) and his enigma of combination (as seen on the current grimlock, starscream, elita 1 and hunn grr figures) which is what created defensor, menasor, skyreign and the girl combiner whose name embrassingly escapes me at this moment. Superion was created through megatron experiments (same with a newer version of devestator which had prowl as the head, this was awesome btw) you could argue the power difference as jihaxus making monstructor much stronger through repeated experiments. Though I have no doubt if monstructor was to reappear then he would be depowered compared newer combiners
Sentinel became a headmaster because it had to tie in to the titans return toy line where sentinel was a wave one voyager (basically he was there to get another use out of the mold before astrotrain was released)
As for change in combiners, this is because of the shift, we had nexus prime (now the first combiner) and his enigma of combination (as seen on the current grimlock, starscream, elita 1 and hunn grr figures) which is what created defensor, menasor, skyreign and the girl combiner whose name embrassingly escapes me at this moment. Superion was created through megatron experiments (same with a newer version of devestator which had prowl as the head, this was awesome btw) you could argue the power difference as jihaxus making monstructor much stronger through repeated experiments. Though I have no doubt if monstructor was to reappear then he would be depowered compared newer combiners
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946870)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 18th, 2018 @ 2:22pm CDT
As I've said, I miss out on a lot of context and backstory given how the part-work is realised but what I read was average at best. A sign of a good story is that it can be read and enjoyed outside of context, as I did with LSoTW. Neither of these stories is even remotely close to the standard of Wreckers.
Admittedly I understand comprises always have to be made to a comic by mandate of the license holder IE why Pretenders and Action Masters (and other bad ideas) came into being in the G1 comic. I accepted that being branded 'Titans Return' a tie-in the story wasn't going to be good. It's often disappointing to be right in that scenario.
Looking back, the Gestalts felt that Mandate more than most. Being usurped by the New toy BUT, for Bruticus to be KO'd with one gunshot to the eye is just bad. Didn't help that the art was equally as atrocious. It reminded me of the art from the Primacy trilogy, which I can't stand.
I'm told the next book in the part-work is from Dreamwave, of which I know next to nothing. A previous book in the collection released "War Within", which was alright but really basic.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 18th, 2018 @ 2:22pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Fort was alive all the time in MTMTE, as he's reckless when he runs into overlord again (a separate encounter from before dying of the light and after lsotw)
Sentinel became a headmaster because it had to tie in to the titans return toy line where sentinel was a wave one voyager (basically he was there to get another use out of the mold before astrotrain was released)
As for change in combiners, this is because of the shift, we had nexus prime (now the first combiner) and his enigma of combination (as seen on the current grimlock, starscream, elita 1 and hunn grr figures) which is what created defensor, menasor, skyreign and the girl combiner whose name embrassingly escapes me at this moment. Superion was created through megatron experiments (same with a newer version of devestator which had prowl as the head, this was awesome btw) you could argue the power difference as jihaxus making monstructor much stronger through repeated experiments. Though I have no doubt if monstructor was to reappear then he would be depowered compared newer combiners
As I've said, I miss out on a lot of context and backstory given how the part-work is realised but what I read was average at best. A sign of a good story is that it can be read and enjoyed outside of context, as I did with LSoTW. Neither of these stories is even remotely close to the standard of Wreckers.
Admittedly I understand comprises always have to be made to a comic by mandate of the license holder IE why Pretenders and Action Masters (and other bad ideas) came into being in the G1 comic. I accepted that being branded 'Titans Return' a tie-in the story wasn't going to be good. It's often disappointing to be right in that scenario.
Looking back, the Gestalts felt that Mandate more than most. Being usurped by the New toy BUT, for Bruticus to be KO'd with one gunshot to the eye is just bad. Didn't help that the art was equally as atrocious. It reminded me of the art from the Primacy trilogy, which I can't stand.
I'm told the next book in the part-work is from Dreamwave, of which I know next to nothing. A previous book in the collection released "War Within", which was alright but really basic.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1946872)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 18th, 2018 @ 2:32pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 18th, 2018 @ 2:32pm CDT
Oh the bruticus one shot thing would have been more annoying if it had been to his side or arm but it was a head shot, so I'm okay with it. Yeah hasbro certainly got more involved with idw as time went on and it shows. I don't know if it was because of how well idw were doing or other reasons. As for stories being able to be read out of continuity it all depends on the story as why would anyone be invested in Tarn without knowing about him previously, time being taken to develop him, and to be a end point for megs story arc.
You may like dreamwave you may not. Some on here swear by them, others don't. Will be interesting to see which you fall into.
You may like dreamwave you may not. Some on here swear by them, others don't. Will be interesting to see which you fall into.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1947658)
Posted by starfishy on March 22nd, 2018 @ 10:57pm CDT
Posted by starfishy on March 22nd, 2018 @ 10:57pm CDT
hello, new member here.
watched the old cartoons as a kid and read a few of the comics. That was many years ago, but recently my curiosity was renewed and decided to pick up a transformers comic.
I found the first TPB for MTMTE, read it in a day, then went to buy the next couple trades, I know that’s from several years ago, but I understand that this Lost Light series is a continuation, correct? Anyways I have some catching up to do, I’m thinking I’ll just pick up the latest of LL at the same time I’m reading through the MTMTE series.
Really enjoying it though, excellent storytelling and characters. really like the focus on lesser used characters, the tailgate stuff was hilarious, and great to see swerve, whirl, skids and cyclonus. Good mix of humor and adventure, good art, all around just good comics. Looking forward to seeing what happens with Rodimus and his crew.
watched the old cartoons as a kid and read a few of the comics. That was many years ago, but recently my curiosity was renewed and decided to pick up a transformers comic.
I found the first TPB for MTMTE, read it in a day, then went to buy the next couple trades, I know that’s from several years ago, but I understand that this Lost Light series is a continuation, correct? Anyways I have some catching up to do, I’m thinking I’ll just pick up the latest of LL at the same time I’m reading through the MTMTE series.
Really enjoying it though, excellent storytelling and characters. really like the focus on lesser used characters, the tailgate stuff was hilarious, and great to see swerve, whirl, skids and cyclonus. Good mix of humor and adventure, good art, all around just good comics. Looking forward to seeing what happens with Rodimus and his crew.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1947681)
Posted by Va'al on March 23rd, 2018 @ 4:26am CDT
Lost Light is indeed the continuation, but it's actually exactly the same series under a different title. Marketing/editorial reasons. Your approach sounds like you might spoil some things for yourself, but other than that, I see nothing wrong with it!
Posted by Va'al on March 23rd, 2018 @ 4:26am CDT
starfishy wrote:hello, new member here.
watched the old cartoons as a kid and read a few of the comics. That was many years ago, but recently my curiosity was renewed and decided to pick up a transformers comic.
I found the first TPB for MTMTE, read it in a day, then went to buy the next couple trades, I know that’s from several years ago, but I understand that this Lost Light series is a continuation, correct? Anyways I have some catching up to do, I’m thinking I’ll just pick up the latest of LL at the same time I’m reading through the MTMTE series.
Lost Light is indeed the continuation, but it's actually exactly the same series under a different title. Marketing/editorial reasons. Your approach sounds like you might spoil some things for yourself, but other than that, I see nothing wrong with it!
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1947794)
Posted by starfishy on March 23rd, 2018 @ 3:39pm CDT
Posted by starfishy on March 23rd, 2018 @ 3:39pm CDT
ok, so it’s an actual continuation then. Maybe I will just wait for the trades then and finish MTMTE first. I go back and forth with whether I want to get TPBs or single issues a lot.
Really glad I found this comic, I’m part way though the 2nd TPB of MTMTE.
Really glad I found this comic, I’m part way though the 2nd TPB of MTMTE.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1947811)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 23rd, 2018 @ 4:56pm CDT
Welcome to Seibertron.com!
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 23rd, 2018 @ 4:56pm CDT
Personally, I think MTMTE is better when read in TPBs. Makes for a better read, because you get all the parts of a story arc at the same time, so you can read through from start to finish. Get the individual issues only if you're a completionist. Have fun with it, MTMTE is pretty good, the 1st 40 issues, anyway. Then it kinda went downhill, in my opinion, but I guess you will make up your own mind. I think the other series, titled Robots in Disguise, then reduced to simply Transformers, is the better story.starfishy wrote:ok, so it’s an actual continuation then. Maybe I will just wait for the trades then and finish MTMTE first. I go back and forth with whether I want to get TPBs or single issues a lot.
Really glad I found this comic, I’m part way though the 2nd TPB of MTMTE.
Welcome to Seibertron.com!
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1947870)
Posted by starfishy on March 23rd, 2018 @ 10:44pm CDT
I actually picked up the first trade for Robots in Disguise too, haven’t read it yet since I got caught up in the MTMTE storyline. I flipped through, looks like a lot of classic bots, Bee, Prowl, Starscream, art looks really good though.
Anyways I finished the second TPB for MTMTE. The stuff with Pharma and the rust virus thing was ok. Tailgates autobot education was really funny. And the Misfire and his scavenger pals versus Tarn and his crazy goons was great.
Drift is really cool. Whirl has some fantastic moments.
Fort Max going nuts was well nuts.
Poor Flywheels, lol
Also Swerve has a bar, brilliant.
Posted by starfishy on March 23rd, 2018 @ 10:44pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:starfishy wrote:Personally, I think MTMTE is better when read in TPBs. Makes for a better read, because you get all the parts of a story arc at the same time, so you can read through from start to finish. Get the individual issues only if you're a completionist. Have fun with it, MTMTE is pretty good, the 1st 40 issues, anyway. Then it kinda went downhill, in my opinion, but I guess you will make up your own mind. I think the other series, titled Robots in Disguise, then reduced to simply Transformers, is the better story.
Welcome to Seibertron.com!
I actually picked up the first trade for Robots in Disguise too, haven’t read it yet since I got caught up in the MTMTE storyline. I flipped through, looks like a lot of classic bots, Bee, Prowl, Starscream, art looks really good though.
Anyways I finished the second TPB for MTMTE. The stuff with Pharma and the rust virus thing was ok. Tailgates autobot education was really funny. And the Misfire and his scavenger pals versus Tarn and his crazy goons was great.
Drift is really cool. Whirl has some fantastic moments.
Fort Max going nuts was well nuts.
Poor Flywheels, lol
Also Swerve has a bar, brilliant.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1948185)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 25th, 2018 @ 12:16pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 25th, 2018 @ 12:16pm CDT
Remember how it was confirmed by James Roberts that Lost Light would run through issue 25? Well, it appears as though while this will remain true, the assumption made that the series would run one comic a month through December has been debunked.
Thanks to Roberts via Twitter, we have news that the plan has shifted somewhat, with the issues of Lost Light now set to come out on a bi-weekly schedule until issue 25. This has been seen in the recent several weeks, with 4 issues of Lost Light coming out in relatively short order, and this new bi-weekly schedule will continue on into the summer. Roberts says this new schedule is set up so that Lost Light 25, Optimus Prime 25, and Unicron issue 6 all hit at the same time, seemingly to act as the bookend to the current IDW transformers run this summer.
With this in mind, we have not gotten any confirmation that Optimus Prime will shift to a bi-weekly schedule yet, but as per the June Solicitations, June will be the month where Lost Light should catch back up to Optimus Prime, so it's possible that both will then start the bi-weekly schedule side by side starting in July and ending in September alongside the Unicron story.
What do you think of this new bi-weekly schedule? What are your thoughts on the uncertainty surrounding the series after Unicron's ending? Let us know in the comments section below!
Thanks to Roberts via Twitter, we have news that the plan has shifted somewhat, with the issues of Lost Light now set to come out on a bi-weekly schedule until issue 25. This has been seen in the recent several weeks, with 4 issues of Lost Light coming out in relatively short order, and this new bi-weekly schedule will continue on into the summer. Roberts says this new schedule is set up so that Lost Light 25, Optimus Prime 25, and Unicron issue 6 all hit at the same time, seemingly to act as the bookend to the current IDW transformers run this summer.
With this in mind, we have not gotten any confirmation that Optimus Prime will shift to a bi-weekly schedule yet, but as per the June Solicitations, June will be the month where Lost Light should catch back up to Optimus Prime, so it's possible that both will then start the bi-weekly schedule side by side starting in July and ending in September alongside the Unicron story.
What do you think of this new bi-weekly schedule? What are your thoughts on the uncertainty surrounding the series after Unicron's ending? Let us know in the comments section below!
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1948206)
Posted by YoungPrime on March 25th, 2018 @ 1:31pm CDT
Posted by YoungPrime on March 25th, 2018 @ 1:31pm CDT
Reading LL at least twice a month is good news. OP has been hit or miss so I don't really care who that releases. Especially with Bumblebee pointlessly returning.
I'd rather see Kup, Sideswipe, Shockwave, Galvatron or more than 20 other characters return.
I'd rather see Kup, Sideswipe, Shockwave, Galvatron or more than 20 other characters return.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1948211)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 25th, 2018 @ 1:35pm CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 25th, 2018 @ 1:35pm CDT
Certainly Galvatron. That was one of the most pathetic and anti-climatic deaths I've seen.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1948238)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 25th, 2018 @ 3:20pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 25th, 2018 @ 3:20pm CDT
I wouldn't expect galvy back till after the unicron event (or perhaps during if galvy becomes a herald)
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1948239)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 25th, 2018 @ 3:21pm CDT
Hopefully if he does come back, under a better writer, he won't talk like Abe Simpson
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 25th, 2018 @ 3:21pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:I wouldn't expect galvy back till after the unicron event (or perhaps during if galvy becomes a herald)
Hopefully if he does come back, under a better writer, he won't talk like Abe Simpson
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1948241)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 25th, 2018 @ 3:28pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 25th, 2018 @ 3:28pm CDT
You have a problem with barber? I didn't mind the way he talked, we've only really had two takes on him before, and one of them was done by the same one who started him off for idw! Also in idw terms he's ancient, fighting with the primes. He likes to be a bit theatrical.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1948243)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 25th, 2018 @ 3:32pm CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 25th, 2018 @ 3:32pm CDT
I didn't know who specifically wrote that dialogue and I don't really care. From his Spotlight to Infestation/Heart of Darkness to CHAOS, he had a distinct voice.. which doesn't mesh with Abe Simpsontron
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1948244)
Posted by Randomhero on March 25th, 2018 @ 3:37pm CDT
No burying him under an iceberg with the power of friendship is one of the most pathetic and anti-climactic deaths ever.
Posted by Randomhero on March 25th, 2018 @ 3:37pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Certainly Galvatron. That was one of the most pathetic and anti-climatic deaths I've seen.
No burying him under an iceberg with the power of friendship is one of the most pathetic and anti-climactic deaths ever.
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1948246)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 25th, 2018 @ 3:40pm CDT
Touché
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 25th, 2018 @ 3:40pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Certainly Galvatron. That was one of the most pathetic and anti-climatic deaths I've seen.
No burying him under an iceberg with the power of friendship is one of the most pathetic and anti-climactic deaths ever.
Touché
Re: Review of IDW Transformers: Lost Light #16 #NCBD (1948256)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 25th, 2018 @ 4:15pm CDT
Hah! Nicely done
I've never had a problem with it but I'm quite used to tropes that crop up in Japanese media (I've read all of fairy tail where the power of friendship happened multiple times every story arc, and it's climax was the biggest power of friendship I've ever seen) so I'm more forgiving with things like that.
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 25th, 2018 @ 4:15pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Certainly Galvatron. That was one of the most pathetic and anti-climatic deaths I've seen.
No burying him under an iceberg with the power of friendship is one of the most pathetic and anti-climactic deaths ever.
Hah! Nicely done
I've never had a problem with it but I'm quite used to tropes that crop up in Japanese media (I've read all of fairy tail where the power of friendship happened multiple times every story arc, and it's climax was the biggest power of friendship I've ever seen) so I'm more forgiving with things like that.
