TF Source video review for Black MP Convoy

does anyone know if we're getting this guy in the States? cuase i would Really like this guy in the states.

guardianprime wrote:does anyone know if we're getting this guy in the States? cuase i would Really like this guy in the states.

Your best bet to secure this figure would be through an online retailer like TF Source or BBTS.com. You most likely will not see this figure on store shelves at all, save those collectable shops that may have a slight chance of having them, but you'd pay an inflated price. Both TFSource and BBTS are located in the Midwest US, so shipping is fast.

I'm sorry, I have to ask-why is the fandom finding it so hard to understand that this isn't "Nemesis" Prime???
This video is confused as to whether he's bot or con, erm hello, look at the packaging.
besides hasn't traslated blurb already been passed around stating that this figure takes place in the Japanese BT/MP universe and is a droid/soldier type creation made by the autobots?

Was I the only one who read that? Have I spent so much time on seibertron.com that I've started dreaming news stories?

If peeps want him as nemesis, fine. Go to town on him, go reprolabels and buy all the con stickers you want. It wouldn't be the first time many of us have ignored who or what someone was supposed to be for our own ideas-but why are so many people determined to glaze over it?
If you don't like he's an autobot, o'k. But you can't deny it to the point where you are honestly as confused as this guy.
Can you?

So is this version coming with the comic? Or is there 2 versions? Im still alittle confused on that.

hinomars19 wrote:I'm sorry, I have to ask-why is the fandom finding it so hard to understand that this isn't "Nemesis" Prime???
This video is confused as to whether he's bot or con, erm hello, look at the packaging.
besides hasn't traslated blurb already been passed around stating that this figure takes place in the Japanese BT/MP universe and is a droid/soldier type creation made by the autobots?

Was I the only one who read that? Have I spent so much time on seibertron.com that I've started dreaming news stories?

If peeps want him as nemesis, fine. Go to town on him, go reprolabels and buy all the con stickers you want. It wouldn't be the first time many of us have ignored who or what someone was supposed to be for our own ideas-but why are so many people determined to glaze over it?
If you don't like he's an autobot, o'k. But you can't deny it to the point where you are honestly as confused as this guy.
Can you?

I think you have maybe failed to see that posing questions in a review the way that I have done it is a bit of a literary device. I am essentially cutting many people off at the pass. I have no doubt in my mind who Black Convoy is and by posing the questions, I am making the many unenlightened viewers realize that this is not Scourge or Nemesis Prime where they might have never questioned the thought to begin with.

And as far as any sort of story concerning this release of Black Convoy, I do not believe there has been any literal explanation or back story provided and I read every piece of Transformers news there is. Yes, some fall through the cracks, but I'm pretty sure that there is no directly correlating fiction yet. The comic coming later this year will most likely be translated and the truth will be revealed. But we all know that the reason this figure has an autobot symbol on it is because it's fashioned onto the mold itself. They weren't going to put a decepticon symbol on there, they'd have to carve a new piece. Black convoy in Japan has always been a "fallen autobot" of some sort, or a mirrorverse type kind of Optimus Prime doppleganger. However, this time it's not just Optimus in black clothing, like a typical Japanese Black repaint. This is why I make light of the tradition at the start of the review. Black Gigantor is not a new character named black gigantor, it is a effigy of Gigantor if it were painted all black. That is what a typical Black Repaint is in Japan. This is a new character, and so far, no one is particularly sure how it fits in with the mythos, and who can say that the BT / Alternity fiction is completely sound as is? A lot gets lost in the translation.

Are you satisfied now?

Ungie wrote:So is this version coming with the comic? Or is there 2 versions? Im still alittle confused on that.

A large quantity of Black Convoys were released to suppliers sans Ehobby Comic at the end of 2009. The comic will be available only with those Black Convoy's purchased via TakaraTomy's Ehobby online store and shipped sometime in March of this year. That is the only difference. It is the same figure, box, and contents just shipped through a different place with a much later release date. Apparently, the comic wasn't printed in time before the toy was packaged and sold to many suppliers without it.

I asked this same question to Curt at TF Source myself and this is how he explained it to me. The MP Black convoys that every has are of the first batch. You could consider them sort of like official 'pre-releases', but really it just sounds like a mis-match of supply and demand. If I remember correctly, the toy was always meant to be an ehobby exclusive with comic to be sold in March of 2010. Santatron came a little early last year and gave us this toy without the comic. ^_^

no offence to collection
but i'm pretty sure i submitted this news before

cannonfodder4000 wrote:no offence to collection
but i'm pretty sure i submitted this news before

Which news? Just link me up.

By the way, the comic portions being revealed today should clarify just how unclear the identity is and where he fits in the mythos. ^_^

Collecticon wrote:

hinomars19 wrote:I'm sorry, I have to ask-why is the fandom finding it so hard to understand that this isn't "Nemesis" Prime???
This video is confused as to whether he's bot or con, erm hello, look at the packaging.
besides hasn't traslated blurb already been passed around stating that this figure takes place in the Japanese BT/MP universe and is a droid/soldier type creation made by the autobots?

Was I the only one who read that? Have I spent so much time on seibertron.com that I've started dreaming news stories?

If peeps want him as nemesis, fine. Go to town on him, go reprolabels and buy all the con stickers you want. It wouldn't be the first time many of us have ignored who or what someone was supposed to be for our own ideas-but why are so many people determined to glaze over it?
If you don't like he's an autobot, o'k. But you can't deny it to the point where you are honestly as confused as this guy.
Can you?

I think you have maybe failed to see that posing questions in a review the way that I have done it is a bit of a literary device. I am essentially cutting many people off at the pass. I have no doubt in my mind who Black Convoy is and by posing the questions, I am making the many unenlightened viewers realize that this is not Scourge or Nemesis Prime where they might have never questioned the thought to begin with.

And as far as any sort of story concerning this release of Black Convoy, I do not believe there has been any literal explanation or back story provided and I read every piece of Transformers news there is. Yes, some fall through the cracks, but I'm pretty sure that there is no directly correlating fiction yet. The comic coming later this year will most likely be translated and the truth will be revealed. But we all know that the reason this figure has an autobot symbol on it is because it's fashioned onto the mold itself. They weren't going to put a decepticon symbol on there, they'd have to carve a new piece. Black convoy in Japan has always been a "fallen autobot" of some sort, or a mirrorverse type kind of Optimus Prime doppleganger. However, this time it's not just Optimus in black clothing, like a typical Japanese Black repaint. This is why I make light of the tradition at the start of the review. Black Gigantor is not a new character named black gigantor, it is a effigy of Gigantor if it were painted all black. That is what a typical Black Repaint is in Japan. This is a new character, and so far, no one is particularly sure how it fits in with the mythos, and who can say that the BT / Alternity fiction is completely sound as is? A lot gets lost in the translation.

Are you satisfied now?

Ahh, You're the guy who did the review? Nice, I like a man who defends himself -and I do now see your reasoning behind it. Apologise for being a smart ass

I did some searching here, and found something about elderoids created by Wheeljack to aid Convoy against Galvatron II...which is what I remember from before. The comic clearly shows megs knows this isn't the real convoy, but who knows how all this fits together 'till someone actally has the comic, I guess. And I appreciate your point about the translation (and the symbol moulding) It's just I have a genuine interest in the differing Japanese fiction, and it gets my back up when peeps try to disregard it because it doesn't fit with what they think should be- That's NOT what you are doing, obviously, just my reasons for my original post (I don't direct this at the majority of the fandom either, but there are some)

Anyways, the vid is cool, really like the stop motion. Kudos

Cool beans, I like generating discussion, that is the point!

I was not aggressively defending, just making myself clear and it sounds like we are in agreement. I think a lot gets lost in the translation of the Japanese fiction, because the stories just sound a bit TOO sci-fi and hard to accept even when you consider that we already accept the idea of large, sentient, transforming robots are the main characters. Alternate dimensions and time-warps just might be a little too much for Transformers at times.

I am unfamiliar with the eldroid thing, so please enlighten me. A lot of comic fiction falls out the other end of my ears because it seems like another exception to the canon rule.

Feel free to discuss this in the comments of collection anytime, as this is the kind of discussion I would love to generate.

I'm glad you enjoyed the review and another MP is next, I just have to edit it together.

Collecticon wrote:Cool beans, I like generating discussion, that is the point!

I was not aggressively defending, just making myself clear and it sounds like we are in agreement. I think a lot gets lost in the translation of the Japanese fiction, because the stories just sound a bit TOO sci-fi and hard to accept even when you consider that we already accept the idea of large, sentient, transforming robots are the main characters. Alternate dimensions and time-warps just might be a little too much for Transformers at times.

I am unfamiliar with the eldroid thing, so please enlighten me. A lot of comic fiction falls out the other end of my ears because it seems like another exception to the canon rule.

Feel free to discuss this in the comments of collection anytime, as this is the kind of discussion I would love to generate.

I'm glad you enjoyed the review and another MP is next, I just have to edit it together.

hehe, cool.
I'm a huge anime fan, so overthe top theories and sci fi types are the norm for me, and since I grew up with western TF's the idea of something fresh and new appeals to me. I just love how different they can be to us in that way. Fair play to those it doesn't appeal to, though.
As for the eldroids, that's about all I have. I didn't research it much since I figured we'd get more with his release. Maybe time for TF Wiki!!

Yep, as I expected, the comic makes "sense" of it all. Black Convoy is a clone / drone called an eldroid that is remotely "piloted" by Dan (Daniel Witwicky?) Why he is Black I have no idea. It's interesting that he is just a drone though.

Collecticon wrote:Yep, as I expected, the comic makes "sense" of it all. Black Convoy is a clone / drone called an eldroid that is remotely "piloted" by Dan (Daniel Witwicky?) Why he is Black I have no idea. It's interesting that he is just a drone though.

as you mention in the review, black paint variants are a tradition. Usualy, that's all the reason it needs. It's an obvious idea to continue the tradition with MP convoy, but, Like they did with the duplicate BT's(smokescreen GT, red meister etc), Japan is coming up with some back story this time round.
Realisticly, profit is why he's black-hence the tradition, and collectors market.
This is just a small bonus by adding fiction later. (which is a general rule in TF making-certainly with it's roots)

What period does the comic fit into? Does it tie with BT, like I think the original Mps did?
It reminds me of Kiss play autolooper