Transformers 5: The Last Knight Crosshairs Robot Mode Revealed!

Kurona wrote:So I guess in terms of changes, there's... absolutely nothing.
Ah well, it was a pretty decent design anyway even if I don't like the bayformer aesthetic. If ain't broke...

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

Kurona wrote:So I guess in terms of changes, there's... absolutely nothing.
Ah well, it was a pretty decent design anyway even if I don't like the bayformer aesthetic. If ain't broke...

Eh, there's a change or two. Aside from likely extremely subtle changes in surface detail, he seems to have lights and stuff inside his trenchcoart, and he now has a moustache that I don't really remember him having, or at least the appearance of one via clever shading (along with his face being made a little more visually appealing on the whole).

Kurona wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

Kurona wrote:So I guess in terms of changes, there's... absolutely nothing.
Ah well, it was a pretty decent design anyway even if I don't like the bayformer aesthetic. If ain't broke...

Eh, there's a change or two. Aside from likely extremely subtle changes in surface detail, he seems to have lights and stuff inside his trenchcoart, and he now has a moustache that I don't really remember him having, or at least the appearance of one via clever shading (along with his face being made a little more visually appealing on the whole).

I tend to ignore the faces, they keep me up at night

That makes sense. But yeah, as you said; very subtle - not really noticeable. Wonder if he has a different alt mode.

Blozor wrote:I like that they've found a way to give the robots something that resembles actual faces now, 4 or especially 5 movies in. This is what their faces should have looked like from the get-go, instead of the insectoid monstrosities we started out with.

Kurona wrote:
That makes sense. But yeah, as you said; very subtle - not really noticeable. Wonder if he has a different alt mode.

Jeddostotle7 wrote:
Eh, there's a change or two. Aside from likely extremely subtle changes in surface detail, he seems to have lights and stuff inside his trenchcoart, and he now has a moustache that I don't really remember him having, or at least the appearance of one via clever shading (along with his face being made a little more visually appealing on the whole).

Rodimus Prime wrote:Oh, look. It's Neo. I have no problem with the character, it's neither here nor there. Sqweeks, however, will be the biggest waste of time and CG in the film. The time and space devoted to that monstrosity could be used to introduce or develop actual characters. What a shame.

Deadput wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Oh, look. It's Neo. I have no problem with the character, it's neither here nor there. Sqweeks, however, will be the biggest waste of time and CG in the film. The time and space devoted to that monstrosity could be used to introduce or develop actual characters. What a shame.

Squeeks is an actual character too just because you don't like him doesn't mean he is any less of a character then say Bee or Ratchet.

And this is why new things like Alpha Bravo because some adults who were kids 30-20 years ago want exactly the same thing as how they felt as a kid.

When I was a kid and probably same with all of us we did not watch Transformers as kids because we wanted amazing stories or characters we wanted to watch robots shoot,fight and Transform and don't lie kids don't really care for those things until they start to become teenagers.

Squeeks is something kids like and Bumblebee can't be the kids idol forever they need other characters too like Smokescreen from Prime and Sideswipe from the new RID.

Moonshot wrote:
I understand where he is coming from, to me Squeeks just seems like another wasted "gimmick" character. And of course we watched Transformers when we were kids because they shot at each other and fought, not the stories so much. Thats why most of us are here, I was 6 in 1984 and fell in love with Sunbow G1 Transformers.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:(I kinda like Sqweeks... he reminds me of the kid who played Tiny Tim in the local production of 'A Christmas Carol' I did last year, I was the happy new nephew Fred and also the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come... cool skull mask! As the ghost I mean, not as Fred. )

ZeroWolf wrote:Thing is we don't know what Sqweeks role actually is in the movie yet,

Deadput wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Thing is we don't know what Sqweeks role actually is in the movie yet,

We know what it is!


Cute mascot character for the kids to adore over!

My little sister (who is 9 and has watched the Transformers movies in the past with me I mute the inappropriate language even though she knows about it and knows not to say bad words) already loves Squeeks and likes his name although she is confused about the whole peg leg thing and she asked me why he only has one wheel since at first she thought it was Fixit from the Rid cartoon my sis thought Transformers Prime was boring and usually would not want to watch it with me which is a part of why I don't like that show but she loves RID for being an actual kids show.

KennethAkfaer wrote:As the movie characters design "more human styled", the toy design has to go more "wrapped": the robotic bodies will be involved less and less in the transformation...

Take BWN Break as an example...

Source： TFwiki

Hate this trend...

Kurona wrote:Or, for a more recent and relevant-to-the-movies example...



What about this leader-class toy who wears almost his entire alt mode on his back?

edit: also, this



Still, it's not as if all the movie toys are getting bad because of it. There was an evolution 2-pack for sale at the UK TRU which gave me Evasion Optimus and Classics Optimus for 20 quid; and while I bought it purely because I wanted a Classics Optimus, the Evasion one turned out to a very solid voyager toy with a clever transformation - albeit with some irritating panelling and fiddling.

Love that cute old penguin gun...truly madly deeply

Have NO movie 4 toys but played with several. The Milk-Magazine Battle Damaged Evasion Prime is a very impressive movie 4 toy.


Source: TFwiki

Have 4 or 5 09 movie Primes at home and still love the old fashion of transforming.

The character designs since movie 4 killed both the toys and the designers ...
Hope Shogo Hasui can bring some new ideas to the movie 5 toys.

KennethAkfaer wrote:Have NO movie 4 toys but played with several. The Milk-Magazine Battle Damaged Evasion Prime is a very impressive movie 4 toy.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

KennethAkfaer wrote:Have NO movie 4 toys but played with several. The Milk-Magazine Battle Damaged Evasion Prime is a very impressive movie 4 toy.

I still like mine a lot. Currently my fave Optimus toy ever. Poses well, looks great in both modes, doesn't take tooo long to transform but is complex enough to be interesting and still just love the whole gimmick of agile, athletic looking movie Prime being able to turn into blocky G1 cab more convincingly than a lot of G1 Prime figures do.

KennethAkfaer wrote:You pose it great. Custom painted?

My all time fave movie Prime toy is this APS01U. Mine is not fully armed due to the space limit...

The movie 4 leader class Prime is a simpler wrapper... And the upcoming movie 5 knight ...

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Is there a movie 5 toy yet or you just going by the movie 5 Prime looking like the movie 4 Prime and expecting the same kind of toy?

KennethAkfaer wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Is there a movie 5 toy yet or you just going by the movie 5 Prime looking like the movie 4 Prime and expecting the same kind of toy?

I am not going to buy any movie toys if the WRAPPER design stays still
Second, I love Megatron

Carnivius_Prime wrote:heh. I'm really looking forward to them cos movie toys tend to be my fave (I like some Gens & Titans for updates of fave old characters but I got back into Transformers cos the movie stuff is what I had wanted since I was a kid and would often redesign characters in the back of my schoolbooks as to how they might actually function & transform in real life). I'm keen to see what they do with Prime. I really liked the Armor Knight leader toy but I loved the difference between the 2007 and 2009 Leader Class Primes despite them being based on the same design they turned out far more differently, like Hastak had a much better understanding of how to compress all those rectanguler truck parts into movie Prime's much more streamlined self. The 2007 toy is still fun in it's own right though as a Transformers figure but for accuracy they really knocked it out of the park with the 2009 RotF toy so maybe they'll do it again with his knight form?

KennethAkfaer wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:heh. I'm really looking forward to them cos movie toys tend to be my fave (I like some Gens & Titans for updates of fave old characters but I got back into Transformers cos the movie stuff is what I had wanted since I was a kid and would often redesign characters in the back of my schoolbooks as to how they might actually function & transform in real life). I'm keen to see what they do with Prime. I really liked the Armor Knight leader toy but I loved the difference between the 2007 and 2009 Leader Class Primes despite them being based on the same design they turned out far more differently, like Hastak had a much better understanding of how to compress all those rectanguler truck parts into movie Prime's much more streamlined self. The 2007 toy is still fun in it's own right though as a Transformers figure but for accuracy they really knocked it out of the park with the 2009 RotF toy so maybe they'll do it again with his knight form?

As I look back to the character designs of RotF Prime, I could say that the chest could come from the truck's front window. And that's how the 2009 Leader Class transforms.

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But the movie 4 prime, the designer should have kill Bay for the human like body of prime

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And in the last knight poster, we could see a human like body again... So don't know what designers could do than a wrapper again....

Kurona wrote:It's still very possible to get a good transformation out of a human-like body without resorting to shellforming.

ZeroWolf wrote:Was the 2014 crosshairs any good? My tru still has some left and I keep looking at it but he has a car shell on his back, is there anything you can so with it?

ZeroWolf wrote:Was the 2014 crosshairs any good? My tru still has some left and I keep looking at it but he has a car shell on his back, is there anything you can so with it?

Autobot N wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Was the 2014 crosshairs any good? My tru still has some left and I keep looking at it but he has a car shell on his back, is there anything you can so with it?

It sucked. It wasn't as bad as Grimlock or Galvatron, but it still sucked.

Blozor wrote:I like that they've found a way to give the robots something that resembles actual faces now, 4 or especially 5 movies in. This is what their faces should have looked like from the get-go, instead of the insectoid monstrosities we started out with.

Bleak5170 wrote: I still don't see anything resembling a face when I look at movie Ratchet.

Kurona wrote:

Autobot N wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Was the 2014 crosshairs any good? My tru still has some left and I keep looking at it but he has a car shell on his back, is there anything you can so with it?

It sucked. It wasn't as bad as Grimlock or Galvatron, but it still sucked.

Huh, I thought the Voyager Grimlock was supposed to be decent? That's a shame, I was thinking of picking up the AOE dinobots eventually.

Deadput wrote:

Bleak5170 wrote: I still don't see anything resembling a face when I look at movie Ratchet.

I'm pretty sure everyone can see a face since that's usually where the head is located which is on the top.

Do you need to see an optometrist for your eyes?



A gif of said face moving



Well you don't need to worry about your face seeing skills for Ratchet anymore he doesn't even have a face!

Madeus Prime wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Autobot N wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Was the 2014 crosshairs any good? My tru still has some left and I keep looking at it but he has a car shell on his back, is there anything you can so with it?

It sucked. It wasn't as bad as Grimlock or Galvatron, but it still sucked.

Huh, I thought the Voyager Grimlock was supposed to be decent? That's a shame, I was thinking of picking up the AOE dinobots eventually.

Actually he is a good figure. Especially if you fiddle with him a bit in robot mode, you can eliminate his butt kibble and his munky arms. All of the AOE Dinobots are pretty dang decent in fact, with the only crappy ones being Snarl and Slash (Though I can't entirely speak for the former, as I've never owned him.)

Kurona wrote:The point is that it doesn't look like a face

Deadput wrote:

Kurona wrote:The point is that it doesn't look like a face

I realize why he says that I was trying to make my reply snarky you can say something that actually makes sense like "I don't like Ratchet's face" instead of what he said.


"I can't see a face" how the hell does that make sense in any logical way?

Bleak5170 wrote: I still don't see anything resembling a face when I look at movie Ratchet.

Kurona wrote:The point is that it doesn't look like a face

JazZeke wrote:

Kurona wrote:The point is that it doesn't look like a face

It's a defense mechanism.

How do you think he was able to survive living with Optimus Prime for so long?

Kurona wrote:Oh cool; glad to know. The AOE dinobots are strangely appealing to me; maybe it's because since they don't have faces and instead have visors and faceplates they look more like what fits my vision of what a Transformer looks like. And the whole brutal sharp design theme of bayformers seems to actually work for them.

Deadput wrote:

Kurona wrote:The point is that it doesn't look like a face

I realize why he says that I was trying to make my reply snarky you can say something that actually makes sense like "I don't like Ratchet's face" instead of what he said.


"I can't see a face" how the hell does that make sense in any logical way?

Autobot N wrote:

Kurona wrote:Oh cool; glad to know. The AOE dinobots are strangely appealing to me; maybe it's because since they don't have faces and instead have visors and faceplates they look more like what fits my vision of what a Transformer looks like. And the whole brutal sharp design theme of bayformers seems to actually work for them.

If you're going for AOE Dinobots, I strongly recommend Scorn and Strafe. Grimlock, Slash, and Slug, I'm not a huge fan of (I don't own Slog or Snarl).

Kurona wrote:

Autobot N wrote:

Kurona wrote:Oh cool; glad to know. The AOE dinobots are strangely appealing to me; maybe it's because since they don't have faces and instead have visors and faceplates they look more like what fits my vision of what a Transformer looks like. And the whole brutal sharp design theme of bayformers seems to actually work for them.

If you're going for AOE Dinobots, I strongly recommend Scorn and Strafe. Grimlock, Slash, and Slug, I'm not a huge fan of (I don't own Slog or Snarl).

I'm going for all of them ideally
Though yeah, Strafe would be a priority since Pterodactyls are my favourite not dinosaur.

Kurona wrote:

Autobot N wrote:

Kurona wrote:Oh cool; glad to know. The AOE dinobots are strangely appealing to me; maybe it's because since they don't have faces and instead have visors and faceplates they look more like what fits my vision of what a Transformer looks like. And the whole brutal sharp design theme of bayformers seems to actually work for them.

If you're going for AOE Dinobots, I strongly recommend Scorn and Strafe. Grimlock, Slash, and Slug, I'm not a huge fan of (I don't own Slog or Snarl).

I'm going for all of them ideally
Though yeah, Strafe would be a priority since Pterodactyls are my favourite not dinosaur.