Transformers Masterpiece MPM-12 Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Revealed

Man, that actually looks really good. Weird he comes with a Matrix since one wasn’t seen in the movie but it’s welcome regardless.

The robot mode looks great, but that vehicle mode, oh ye gods that isn't so good.

Okay, possibly a dumb question having not seen all the movies, but did any of the movies involve the Matrix? I don't think so but not 100% sure. If not, then why are they including it for a MPM figure?

Perfect bot but what's up with the cat ears on the truck?

I wonder if the Matrix has an concept art that wasn't part of film or if they just made the Matrix for this toy.

TulioDude wrote:He looks pretty nice,I don't think the truck matches with the one in movie though.

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:Okay, possibly a dumb question having not seen all the movies, but did any of the movies involve the Matrix? I don't think so but not 100% sure. If not, then why are they including it for a MPM figure?

The matrix was in the 2nd and 3rd movies, but it didn't look like that.



Prime also wouldn't have had it at this point, it was hidden on Earth.

Well, I really wanted to hate this guy. When I figured out they were giving us the BB Optimus prime from leaks last week, I couldn’t have been more annoyed. There’s just SO many characters from the movies left that are screaming for MPM treatment, and they go for another Optimus. Typical.
With that being said, I really freaking dig this guy. No, he doesn’t look nearly as good as the other third party offerings, but he looks immensely more fun, he’s gonna be in scale with my other MPM’s, and he’s not gonna cost $300+ dollars. And as for me, I don’t know of a BB Optimus that can claim all 3 of those properly. I’m gonna happily get this guy and give hasbro a pass with giving us another optimus prime in the MPM line IF they choose this year’s MPM decepticon very carefully. We still need blackout, bone rusher and brawl from the first movie and we all know that’s the cast lineup they’ve been attempting to complete since they started this line. If they get distracted now by giving us some m BS Camero BB Movie Bumblebee for the 2nd figure this year, then I’ll be triggered.
But for now, I’m unexpectedly excited.

Not really interested in this design.

Hopefully the other MPM we get this year (if we keep the usual release schedule) is an 07 figure. Rumor is it's 76 Camaro Bumblebee, which would be awesome.

I agree that including the matrix is an odd choice but maybe it could have more to do with current live action movie plans. Still not keen on this design, I would have preferred it less G1 but c'est la vie

Hasbro and Takara just don't care about alt modes anymore.

They should just start making non-transforming figures. (Oh that's right. They screwed those up too.)

Nice!

That's a rather gorgeous robot mode!

~ Grim

Prime looks good but also looks needlessly fiddly and complex like every other MPM figure. Ya know Target and Hasbro have a long history with exclusives so I'm not that surprised it's another Target exclusive, it's still going to probably be a pain to get though. Any guesses on price? I'll be surprised if this goes for less than $125.

I wrote it on TFW2005, but they got the wrong truck again, in the film, if we assume that the truck on the Golden Gate bridge with Bumblebee really was Optimus, then the truck is a freightliner like G1 Optimus, whereas this figure is based more on a Mamon COE, like the Studio Series figure.

Ironically, in Age of Extinction Optimus did use a Mamon COE before switching the the Western Star alt mode he used for the rest of the Film and in Last Knight, while the Evasion Mode figure based on that design used a Frieghtliner, to draw it closer to G1 Optimus.

Agent 53 wrote:I wrote it on TFW2005, but they got the wrong truck again, in the film, if we assume that the truck on the Golden Gate bridge with Bumblebee really was Optimus, then the truck is a freightliner like G1 Optimus, whereas this figure is based more on a Mamon COE, like the Studio Series figure.

Ironically, in Age of Extinction Optimus did use a Mamon COE before switching the the Western Star alt mode he used for the rest of the Film and in Last Knight, while the Evasion Mode figure based on that design used a Frieghtliner, to draw it closer to G1 Optimus.

It's possible that they had to use an early design concept that used this truck design. That happens a lot with movie toys in general, not just Transformers movie toys.

We'll see when more images come out, but I feel like the truck mode is a serious step down from the Studio Series one, without really improving on the robot mode beyond the extra size and paint that come with a higher price point. I mean, the Studio Series one is practically perfect in truck mode. I understood it with Starscream, because his MPM robot mode is waaaaaaaaaaaay better than the Studio Series one. But the alt mode downgrade here just seems pointless.

Maybe I'm just not a big enough fan of this design to notice the robot mode improvements?

A bit bummed this isn't a duo release like the previous four MPMs, it means the Decepticons will fall behind again. I was sure Bumblebee Optimus Prime was going to be the next Autobot release, but I expected him to come out paired with Bonecrusher or Brawl. Like what they did with Jazz / Megatron and Ratchet / Starscream.

Oh well, as long as the next guy is a Movie 1 Decepticon... Although it'll probably be Bumblebee's old Camaro body from the first movie.

Rtron wrote:We'll see when more images come out, but I feel like the truck mode is a serious step down from the Studio Series one, without really improving on the robot mode beyond the extra size and paint that come with a higher price point. I mean, the Studio Series one is practically perfect in truck mode. I understood it with Starscream, because his MPM robot mode is waaaaaaaaaaaay better than the Studio Series one. But the alt mode downgrade here just seems pointless.

I'm with you on this, the truck looks bad. It has cat ears.

Hmmmm, interesting, the robot mode is pretty good, though the head sculpt seems off, but that truck mode is pretty lame compared to other movie primes and even to the SS figure. Not sure what to think about it yet

A video showing the toy in hand.

The bot mode look impressive, but that truck is a real mess. It's serious garbage. Especially with the silly cat ears.



I won't preorder this.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Hmmmm, interesting, the robot mode is pretty good, though the head sculpt seems off, but that truck mode is pretty lame compared to other movie primes and even to the SS figure. Not sure what to think about it yet

For this toy, they really embellished the subtle details on his face plate from the movie. I would argue that should have been done via tampo/etc rather than sculpted detail.

Someone mentioned earlier that MPM figures feel rushed and I think I agree. Megatron and Starscream felt like they were breaking that trend. This doesn't.

The robot mode looks good for what it is. I've never been a huge fan of the design, especially the head design, but it's hard to fault the toy for being accurate. Head design still sucks though.

The Matrix is an interesting inclusion, I guess the figure just needed more G1.

That truck mode, though... oof. The front is mostly good, but the back half is a mess and the bunny ears unfortunately look like they're transformed correctly. Really disappointing, especially after the Studio Series figure gave us one of, if not the greatest truck mode of all time. The SS figure also had a much better head design, but I digress.

Tuned Agent wrote:The robot mode looks good for what it is. I've never been a huge fan of the design, especially the head design, but it's hard to fault the toy for being accurate. Head design still sucks though.

The Matrix is an interesting inclusion, I guess the figure just needed more G1.

That truck mode, though... oof. The front is mostly good, but the back half is a mess and the bunny ears unfortunately look like they're transformed correctly. Really disappointing, especially after the Studio Series figure gave us one of, if not the greatest truck mode of all time. The SS figure also had a much better head design, but I digress.

The studio series truck mode is seriously insane, literally its only fault is the proportions of the back of the truck cab, it even reproduces the weird gappy aspect that truck beds always have.

Tuned Agent wrote:The robot mode looks good for what it is. I've never been a huge fan of the design, especially the head design, but it's hard to fault the toy for being accurate. Head design still sucks though.

The Matrix is an interesting inclusion, I guess the figure just needed more G1.

That truck mode, though... oof. The front is mostly good, but the back half is a mess and the bunny ears unfortunately look like they're transformed correctly. Really disappointing, especially after the Studio Series figure gave us one of, if not the greatest truck mode of all time. The SS figure also had a much better head design, but I digress.

What are you seeing in the back that I'm not. Most of the vehicle mode is blocked off by weapon storage.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Tuned Agent wrote:The robot mode looks good for what it is. I've never been a huge fan of the design, especially the head design, but it's hard to fault the toy for being accurate. Head design still sucks though.

The Matrix is an interesting inclusion, I guess the figure just needed more G1.

That truck mode, though... oof. The front is mostly good, but the back half is a mess and the bunny ears unfortunately look like they're transformed correctly. Really disappointing, especially after the Studio Series figure gave us one of, if not the greatest truck mode of all time. The SS figure also had a much better head design, but I digress.

What are you seeing in the back that I'm not. Most of the vehicle mode is blocked off by weapon storage.

He obviously meant the "legs" part of the truck.
That's a big OOFF, but the cat ears is one hell of a raised middle finger.

If I want a "MP Bee Optimus", I'll go 3P or 3-Zero.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Tuned Agent wrote:The robot mode looks good for what it is. I've never been a huge fan of the design, especially the head design, but it's hard to fault the toy for being accurate. Head design still sucks though.

The Matrix is an interesting inclusion, I guess the figure just needed more G1.

That truck mode, though... oof. The front is mostly good, but the back half is a mess and the bunny ears unfortunately look like they're transformed correctly. Really disappointing, especially after the Studio Series figure gave us one of, if not the greatest truck mode of all time. The SS figure also had a much better head design, but I digress.

What are you seeing in the back that I'm not. Most of the vehicle mode is blocked off by weapon storage.

He obviously meant the "legs" part of the truck.
That's a big OOFF, but the cat ears is one hell of a raised middle finger.

If I want a "MP Bee Optimus", I'll go 3P or 3-Zero.

Yeah, I meant the "legs" part. I know it's not uncommon for that part to be a bit of an afterthought, but the downgrade from the SS figure make it really stand out.

Rtron wrote:The studio series truck mode is seriously insane, literally its only fault is the proportions of the back of the truck cab, it even reproduces the weird gappy aspect that truck beds always have.

It's definitely insane. I'm pretty sure the panels on the back of the truck cab (unless you're talking about something else) are supposed to be a "headache rack", which are often put on trucks that tow flatbed trailers to protect the truck from cargo that breaks loose. Prime's original movie design had something similar even though he never tows a flatbed.

I've seriously thought about getting the figure just for the truck mode.

Yes, the headeache rack, that was it! That's the only part of the truck mode that isn't perfect, it's a bit small and too thick. Sorry about the inaccurate terminology.

As for why it's there, I suspect they put it there despite Prime never towing "loose" cargo (I mean, seriously, I think the only Optimus Prime that ever towed cargo that way in the whole history of Transformers was Pepsi Convoy) because it looks better on film and it's easier to mold in a toy than the wiry, tuby mess that the back of truck cabs usually is.

And complaining about the headache rack being there because of Optimus himself never towing a flatbed is kinda dumb when you consider that has no bearing on what the driver of the real truck he scanned did or didn't haul.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:And complaining about the headache rack being there because of Optimus himself never towing a flatbed is kinda dumb when you consider that has no bearing on what the driver of the real truck he scanned did or didn't haul.

Come on, nobody was complaining, it's just fun to think about, man. Of course the alien robot has no idea what that crude metal sheet the squishies put there is for, but we're thinking about why the people who made the movie might have put that there.

Sorry guys, I really don't like this one. Looks like a third party attempt.
His face is horrible, the mouthplate, the tiny eyes. I'm happy with my Studio Series tough I wish his lower legs would stay together a bit better.

But this is not for me anyway, I sold my last Masterpieces months ago.
I love most of the other lines.

Man I really hope we're gonna get the rest of the 07 movie Decepticons in MPM-form and not more Bumblebee figures after this...

hausjam wrote:Hasbro and Takara just don't care about alt modes anymore.

They should just start making non-transforming figures. (Oh that's right. They screwed those up too.)

The problem is that Has/Tak know that the vast VAST majority of collectors are only going to transformer their figures once or twice (especially because of how complex some MP figures are) and then just display them in robot mode forever. So why put effort into something most customers won't care much about?

Toys R Us Canada will have MPM-12 in stock and will be 170$CAN. And as usual, Quebec will.............................
.................................................BE ALLOWED TO ORDER IT!

https://www.toysrus.ca/fr/PRE-COMMANDE- ... 838A2.html

All right. I'll finally able to buy this thing when it will go at 33% or 50% off in due time. I hope they order a ton.

Greetings Seibertronians! Thanks to the Takaratomy Mall website, we have some new in stock images to share from the forthcoming Movie Masterpiece 12 Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime!

This toy is based on the how Optimus Prime looks during the much loved Cybertron sequence at the beginning of the Bumblebee movie, while the alt mode is the same as seen in the movies final moments.

















As you can see from these images, not only does he come with his trusty ion cannon, but Prime comes with the Matrix of Leadership, rendered in the same style. The Matrix did not appear in the movie.

What do you think? Do you plan on getting him?

Shout out in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

The bot mode is fantastic. But these CAT EARS on the truck? Come on....

It just looks like such an easy fix to get rid of those pointy bits in truck mode. Just one more hinge on each side. Or just remove them completely from the bot mode. Does it matter if the sides of his shoulders aren't angled?

Honestly, I'm still going to buy it...but I just don't get it.

Okay, here's my mixed thoughts on this:

originally I thought he looked great in bot mode, and while his truck mode cat ears suck pretty hard, I'm one of those "well I'm not displaying it in truck mode anyways" people, so its mostly fine.

However admittedly I recently purchased and received Toyworld's Freedom Leader representation of this guy, and after having that fantastic looking toy in hand for a few days, I can't help but notice how inaccurate and less cool this official guy looks in comparison.

Like most others here, I'll certainly still be getting this, but my remaining reasons are because He'll be the only Masterpiece scaled BB Optimus Prime on the market, and also because I have no doubt his transformation will be much more enjoyable than any third party (especially ToyWorld) to date.

Call me blasphemous, but I've been burned by overpaying for MPM Starscream. Then the more reasonably priced KO come out with a better paint job and it's butt-flap fixed.

So THIS time, I'll definitely wait for the improved KO of that Optimus.

No discount on Amazon Japan. ¥21,100 + ¥2,127 shipping with the tax removed. Meanwhile AmiAmi is asking ¥15,400, but the shipping will certainly be higher, but I doubt it'll be more than ¥7,827. Going to wait a few days and see what the prices do.

Emerje

Bot mode looks awesome..... but why do they keep makeing his alt mode a Marmon when he was a Freightliner?!?

-Kanrabat- wrote:Call me blasphemous, but I've been burned by overpaying for MPM Starscream. Then the more reasonably priced KO come out with a better paint job and it's butt-flap fixed.

So THIS time, I'll definitely wait for the improved KO of that Optimus.

Here’s the thing. I’m all for 3rd party figures and KOs, I’ve been collecting both 3p and official figures for years. And while I’m not trying to preach to you or tell you what to do, I’d strongly recommend that if you are gonna buy a straight KO of a hasbro product, perhaps be willing to support the designers at hasbro for being the ones to create the engineering by purchasing the official toy before you go for a KO. Obviously you like the design, so not giving credit and support to the company who spent the time and money to make it is pretty sideways. The only reason these KO companies can make the exact same figure for so much cheaper with better QC is just because they stole the design and engineering from Hasbro and they only have to pay for materials and improved refinement/paint. it’s different in the case of original 3rd party designs, because they created their own designs with their own budget and their own ingenuity. But going out of your way to purchase the KO of an official product without being willing to support the company that made the KO possible is just kinda messed up. And who knows, there’s a good chance that if you buy the official to show support, it will have great QC like MPM ratchet, and it’s a win win. But hey, you do you.

Emerje wrote:No discount on Amazon Japan. ¥21,100 + ¥2,127 shipping with the tax removed. Meanwhile AmiAmi is asking ¥15,400, but the shipping will certainly be higher, but I doubt it'll be more than ¥7,827. Going to wait a few days and see what the prices do.

Emerje

Amiami would certainly not charge any taxes in advance too so expect some hefty custom charges.

At least it will be available in Canada and even Québec via Toys R Us for 170$CAN plus taxes and free shipping. I would tolerate those cat ears only in I can get it at 33% off at the very least. I'll bid my time.

jtanimator wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Call me blasphemous, but I've been burned by overpaying for MPM Starscream. Then the more reasonably priced KO come out with a better paint job and it's butt-flap fixed.

So THIS time, I'll definitely wait for the improved KO of that Optimus.

Here’s the thing. I’m all for 3rd party figures and KOs, I’ve been collecting both 3p and official figures for years. And while I’m not trying to preach to you or tell you what to do, I’d strongly recommend that if you are gonna buy a straight KO of a hasbro product, perhaps be willing to support the designers at hasbro for being the ones to create the engineering by purchasing the official toy before you go for a KO. Obviously you like the design, so not giving credit and support to the company who spent the time and money to make it is pretty sideways. The only reason these KO companies can make the exact same figure for so much cheaper with better QC is just because they stole the design and engineering from Hasbro and they only have to pay for materials and improved refinement/paint. it’s different in the case of original 3rd party designs, because they created their own designs with their own budget and their own ingenuity. But going out of your way to purchase the KO of an official product without being willing to support the company that made the KO possible is just kinda messed up. And who knows, there’s a good chance that if you buy the official to show support, it will have great QC like MPM ratchet, and it’s a win win. But hey, you do you.

You misunderstood a bit here. I'd never but a "straight-up" KO of an official product ever. That's just worthless. But if the KO fixes some design errors from the original AND it's as a better price, I'd go for it.

I've got burned by a few too many times with horrible QC and prices randomness.
I imported MP-11 for a whopping nearly 300$ at the time and it was complete garbage. Then it came out without the coronation kit at Canadian Toys R Us for 70$CAN. It got scalped to hell and back but still.
Then AGAIN with Starscream but this time the MPM, I bought it for nearly 200$ while Target basically paid their customers to take it away 3 weeks after it came out. Plus that bot have a huge unsightly picnic table on his butt that is visible from the front. The KO fix that.
So if I buy a modded KO, it's also a bit of a revenge against them. But honestly, I'd be hesitant to get a slightly modded KO. When I said I did, it was mostly my grudges talking.

But a HEAVILY modded KO that is more 3P than anything else? I see no problem. Like AoE Hound that have been oversised and heavily modded my WeiJiang or the Combiner Wars Devastator that is a perfect copy of the original, but undersised to be the same sized as the normal Combiners from CW. Each times I bought those, I already bought the original. I kept my AoE Hound but I sold my CW Devy because he was too big. My friend bought the CW Devy Undersised but kept his because he love both the undersised and the original.

Anyway, TlDr; I'm not a KO fan but if I'm hesitant or dont even want to buy the original because there's too many points that get on my nerves, a KO that fix all the "problems" would be the thing that will get my money. Even if that KO is ironically MORE expensive than the original.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Emerje wrote:No discount on Amazon Japan. ¥21,100 + ¥2,127 shipping with the tax removed. Meanwhile AmiAmi is asking ¥15,400, but the shipping will certainly be higher, but I doubt it'll be more than ¥7,827. Going to wait a few days and see what the prices do.

Emerje

Amiami would certainly not charge any taxes in advance too so expect some hefty custom charges.

No customs in the US for personal purchases.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:No customs in the US for personal purchases.

Emerje

Lucky you.
The fees in Canada are atrocious and I heard it's as bad for the U.K.

Is that a Commonwealth thing?

Man, I wish the alt mode was cleaner, and I wish that this Prime design had a nicer midriff, it's just ugly. But I still like it enough to get

Greetings Seibertronians!

MPM Optimus Prime is just around the corner. Seibertron user MadProject pointed out that Prime VS Prime made a video review of this soon to be widely in store Masterpiece. The rather controversial truck mode that is heavily sacrificed for the bot mode and a simpler transformation is shown in all it's "cat hears" and "legs on the back" glory. Then on to a surprisingly simple transformation that is no harder than the voyager to transform and we finish with a pretty solid bot mode.

You can watch the review down below:



What do you think of this Masterpiece? Is the imperfect vehicle mode a deal breaker or is it forgiven for that nice robot mode and that user friendly play value? Please let us know!

Things i dont like about this figure
CAT EARS
NO LEDS
DOORS ON ARMS
LEGS AT BACK OF TRUCK LOOK STUPID AND
WHY DOES OPTIMUS HAVE A HUGE CROUCH PIECE
AND RUBBER EAR ANTENAS ON HEAD THAT ARE RUBBER
im sorry NOT SORRY but hasbro failed massivly on this figure
Tw optimus is way better and better colors that match the movie
Hasbro is showing there true colors being cheap and nasty AGAIN while suckers are buying into this heap mess

I also submitted this video hours ago

I wanted to like this figure since day 1. I really did. Up until now, I was one of the few advocates of this figure. But never freaking mind. there’s WAY too many “buts” when watching this review. His monkey arms are too long, his head is too big AND too thin, the color mismatching is completely unacceptable for a premium figure, those hands look freaking ridiculous (I’ve seen better looking articulated hands on WFC leader and voyager figures), the articulation is worse than most deluxe class WFC figures I own (seriously?? A single jointed knee???), the loose wrists, the MASSIVE gaps in the truck mode bed, the cat ears, the lack of diecast, cheaper plastic, and I’m ashamed to say the list goes on and on. I’ve liked most of the previous MPM releases thus far, but this certain figure has SO many issues and “buts” to the figure that everyone is bound to find at least a couple things that get on their nerves about him. And the worst part is hastak has absolutely no reason why they couldn’t have knocked it out of the park with this one. They have the MPM budget, the CAD design files, the groundwork example laid from several 3p companies, some ingenious hastak designers who’ve been giving us fantastic mainline figures and some great past masterpieces, so what the heck went wrong? What a dang shame. It takes quite a lot to make me consider not buying an MPM, but this is genuinely doing that for me.

Unless I land on that MPM at heavy clearance, it's a hard pass. I'll stick with the SS voyager or I'll go the 3P route.