Activision Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Trailer

sooo much money going out the window. I can just see the skin packs draining my account as I type.

well this certainly... different. dont really know what to think

Nerdgasm. Nerdgasm everywhere.

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?

http://www.youtube.com/user/Shanedapain3991

Um WTF? Is this like a cross over between movie and Aligned, or is WFC/FOC suddenly the prequel to AOE,a nd will ignore all previous movies?

It does say two worlds collide, which could mean a crossover, but also simply that the Transformers land on Earth.

Will reserve judgement till we get actual information on this.

Dead Metal wrote:Um WTF? Is this like a cross over between movie and Aligned, or is WFC/FOC suddenly the prequel to AOE,a nd will ignore all previous movies?

It does say two worlds collide, which could mean a crossover, but also simply that the Transformers land on Earth.

Will reserve judgement till we get actual information on this.

Yeah, that was... mind-boggling.

People already have a hard time accepting WFC/FOC as being connected to TF: Prime. But now if there's some sort of connection with the even more-different-looking AOE...

GUGH! This game's gonna make all kinds of headaches if there isn't any dimension-hopping involved.

OMG OMG OMG!!!

So it is High Moon that's making the game? Since FOC is their franchise and all.

I saw the movie Optimus with a Pathblaster from FOC.

So the gameplay will be as good as the same as FOC???

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

I'm psyched, if it's on PS4, I'll buy the thing, just for this game!

Not exactly chocolate and peanut butter...

I dig it. I really hope HMS can get back together for this. I don't know how things work when it comes to Vidja Games.

*Sigh* Well, it looks like I can finally cut myself off from these video games. It may be awesome in playability, but what drew me to WfC and FoC was the definite G1 tie in. I do not like the tie in to the movies (or even Prime, for that matter.)

I don't begrudge those who love this and find it awesome. Enjoy! It's just not for me...

Agreed with Downshift,

Hopefully it won't have the framerate issues that DOTM had.

Movie games should get proper time to make the game, if they put in stuff from FOC that's already built they can make a solid game that takes a few hours to complete.

Agamemnon wrote:*Sigh* Well, it looks like I can finally cut myself off from these video games. It may be awesome in playability, but what drew me to WfC and FoC was the definite G1 tie in. I do not like the tie in to the movies (or even Prime, for that matter.)

WFC/FOC are not G1 though, they are (or where if this is going to be connected to the movies) Aligned, which means Prime.

Of all the TF series to crossover, these are probably the least interesting.

Dead Metal wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:*Sigh* Well, it looks like I can finally cut myself off from these video games. It may be awesome in playability, but what drew me to WfC and FoC was the definite G1 tie in. I do not like the tie in to the movies (or even Prime, for that matter.)

WFC/FOC are not G1 though, they are (or where if this is going to be connected to the movies) Aligned, which means Prime.

True, but I find that more of a retcon. It seems clear to me that WfC, in particular, was meant to align with G1, or at the very least throw back to it. (Compare BB with G1 and Prime/the movies, and I think this is pretty clear.)

Also, I should state that I don't like Hasbro's attempts to "align" everything. They own the properties, so they get to do what they want. But I think it is wrong of them to stifle the imagination of their customers, which is what I think they are doing whether intentional or not. But, that's just my opinion...

Dead Metal wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:*Sigh* Well, it looks like I can finally cut myself off from these video games. It may be awesome in playability, but what drew me to WfC and FoC was the definite G1 tie in. I do not like the tie in to the movies (or even Prime, for that matter.)

WFC/FOC are not G1 though, they are (or where if this is going to be connected to the movies) Aligned, which means Prime.

Truth be told, I never really saw how WFC/FOC were all that much more G1-inspired than some of the other obvious G1 homages we got in other series. The only things about the WFC/FOC designs that seemed so overtly G1-based to the point that they couldn't be seen as being from anything but G1 were some of the characters' heads. The rest of their looks (color schemes, body designs, etc.) just seemed like the typical, ordinary, casual G1-homage stuff we see all the time in non-G1 series.

Like, take Energon Grimlock or Cybertron Soundwave, for instance. Both look exceptionally G1-based, yet no one ever tried to peg them as being G1 Grimlock or G1 Soundwave in a serious manner.

I predict a disaster of a plot. Looks like they're taking the easy option of having to decide between a movie tie-in and a sequel to FoC and covering both. They just look completely different to me. The Cybertron games had a mild comic vibe to their visuals, while the movie games went for realism. I'd love to know where they're taking this.

Okay, there is one thing that TFW reported from the Hasbro panel that has me hopeful:

- It's Movie-verse vs War for Cybertron universe!
- Prime vs Prime, Grimlock vs Grimlock, Earth vs Cybertron, Bumblebee vs Bumblebee

This description makes it sound like there are two of each character, one from each world, fighting each of their counterparts across both worlds.

Sabrblade wrote:Okay, there is one thing that TFW reported from the Hasbro panel that has me hopeful:

- It's Movie-verse vs War for Cybertron universe!
- Prime vs Prime, Grimlock vs Grimlock, Earth vs Cybertron, Bumblebee vs Bumblebee

This description makes it sound like there are two of each character, one from each world, fighting each of their counterparts across both worlds.

The trailer points that out too, no? I mean, the whole point is X vs X.
Everything vs Everything.

Sure, not as explicit as that quote, but still.

Va'al wrote:The trailer points that out too, no? I mean, the whole point is X vs X.
Everything vs Everything.

Sure, not as explicit as that quote, but still.

That's not quite what I got out of the trailer.

To me, the trailer just looks like generic TF gaming action, mixed with models based on both sources, and vague descriptions that seem to pertain to Cybertron/Earth and Good/Evil.

Gonna try and remain optimistic about this since I loved WFC and FoC, but this looks silly. These are two very different, distinct versions of Transformers, and they really don't mix well at all. Their tone and art styles conflict too much.

If they're trying to make WFC/FoC a prequel to the movies, it doesn't work, since we've already seen movieverse Cybertron in the films and it looks completely different (heck, we know from the first film that Megatron looks completely different from WFC Megatron from flashbacks).

If they're doing a bunch of alternate-reality crossover stuff, I have to ask...why? Who was asking for that? They've already done a pretty poor job of their Aligned Continuity (Sorry, but WFC/FoC and Prime should be kept seperate), throwing the movieverse into the mix just muddles everything up even more.

This looks like a hamfisted way of reusing assets from FoC to rush out a movie tie-in. Hopefully the gameplay is as solid as the previous games, but I'll need to see a lot more before I make a purchase.

I think I like the idea of this game. Firstly, it looks like this is how Hasbro is getting the movieverse toys into the Generations line, as the game figures have been Generations so far, which is actually quite a good way to split the lines imo. Secondly, having the two universes colliding like this sounds like the sort of thing that would attract the attention of the TransTechs, and anything that brings TransTech into a non-TFCC setting is automatically awesome. That blue Sideswipe with the TT Autobot logo still makes me all tingly.

I'm interested in this. I want to see how it goes by. If gameplay is shown, POST IT HERE.

This looks interesting, judging by the trailer I don't expect this game to be very good. I think that HMs will be making a AoE trailer as well, considering that there haven't been any mention of them in a while and they have to be working on something.

Our friends at Activision dropped by with a couple of additional images from their just announced Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark video game. We took a moment to chat with Andrew Petrie and Rob Fleischer them about game at Hasbro Media Day. They describe the game as the universes of Transformers: Fall of Cybertron and Transformers: Age of Extinction colliding. The game will feature both campaign and online modes including escalation. All items and bonuses unlocked or earned in one mode will carry over to the other. So any weapons or abilities you've acquired in campaign mode will follow into multi-player, and vice versa. We were able to view some in-game footage, which featured Transformers: Age of Extinction Grimlock stomping, chomping, and bashing his way through the environment and enemies alike. Unfortunately no video was allowed of the in-game footage. This game will be available on all major gaming platforms, with a special Nintendo DS version. We can expect a full announcement on Monday, but for now check out the in-game images below.

Words cannot describe how little I'm looking forward to this.

I mean, what even is going on with this? These designs don't look too congruent. It'd be like doing an Animated meets G1 crossover. Hint: It would be horrid-looking.

interesting concept but it could go horribly horribly wrong, your taking the best TF continuity (excluding the TFP part cause i still say its not part of the cybertron universe) & merging it with one of the worst. hopefully its more like war for cybertron & less like fall of cybertron & dark of the moon.

If they're making similar gameplay to Fall of Cybertron, at least let us be able to see the FRONT of our characters as well! So you could do a 360 degree turn or something like that. It would be something I would like to see.

#Sideways# wrote:It'd be like doing an Animated meets G1 crossover.

Animated was pretty much a G1 reboot itself, with some not g1 characters.

Though I'll reserve my judgments for when we have a more in depth look at the product, I have a sneaking suspicion that this is going to be something akin to Fall of Cybertron 1.5. From the images seen so far, the assets in the cybertron corner look copy pasted from FoC, with the only new content being the AoE stuff. I have to wonder if this isn't something that could have been simple dlc for FoC with new skins. Then again, I'm not a game dev, so what do I know?

Gah! double post

I'm looking forward to this, but I really wanted a true FoC sequel.

#Sideways# wrote:Words cannot describe how little I'm looking forward to this.

I mean, what even is going on with this? These designs don't look too congruent. It'd be like doing an Animated meets G1 crossover. Hint: It would be horrid-looking.

Well, G1 Optimus Prime did cameo in the Japanese dub of Animated, in which he and Animated Optimus briefly talked together about the next upcoming episode, albeit in audio form only.

And there was that "Bee in the City" live script reading crossover between Animated and TransTech, in which a few Animated character met Beast Wars Megatron.

And there's also been crazier crossovers in the 3H BotCon stuff and the TCC stuff.

I'm...not sure how I'm supposed to feel about this. Am I supposed to like it?

who why when did they decide putting to completely different franchises together was a golden idea?

I'm being too harsh. Too early to tell. I'll think about it more after some sleep.

The films and the Aligned continuity cross dimensions?

Interesting.

I hope this combining of 2 TF universes gives way to some crazy ass Bioshock Infinite ending type of feel to the game. I've always wanted something like that for Transformers. But I don't think it's ever been done. And I won't be surprised in the slightest if that doesn't happen here, but considering how many universes lie in the Transformers multiverse (franchise), I'm surprised no one has done that yet.

Accidental double post.

Agamemnon wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:*Sigh* Well, it looks like I can finally cut myself off from these video games. It may be awesome in playability, but what drew me to WfC and FoC was the definite G1 tie in. I do not like the tie in to the movies (or even Prime, for that matter.)

WFC/FOC are not G1 though, they are (or where if this is going to be connected to the movies) Aligned, which means Prime.

True, but I find that more of a retcon. It seems clear to me that WfC, in particular, was meant to align with G1, or at the very least throw back to it. (Compare BB with G1 and Prime/the movies, and I think this is pretty clear.)

Also, I should state that I don't like Hasbro's attempts to "align" everything. They own the properties, so they get to do what they want. But I think it is wrong of them to stifle the imagination of their customers, which is what I think they are doing whether intentional or not. But, that's just my opinion...

No it's not, if you look at the behind the scenes stuff, the interviews, and the fact that the story is basically the same as all the other Prime prequel material it's clear that it's always been intended to serve as a tie-in to Prime. High Moon even said that they just wanted to let it look as close as possible to the G1 cartoon because that was their favorite incarnation and the one they grew up with.
If by looking vaguely like G1 is all it takes to convince you that it's supposed to be G1, then you probably also view Animated as G1.

So it is a crossover and not a real sequel to FOC? Lame, it doesn't even have High Moon attached from what I can tell.
Skipping this.

I'm afraid Activision is now framing this as Call of Duty: Transformers. The previous games were already moving towards that line, but the current setup of having you unlock stuff in single- and multiplayer implies that there's no way Actvision will provide us with a large (story-based) campaign.

The basic equipment will probably unlock in single throughout the campaign, while in multiplayer it'll take you just a few battles, further equipment trickling in through in-game purchases, DLC or season passes. Or. Very. Slow. Grinding. The two worlds colliding thing is just there to generate more content (and recycle assets from the previous games). This also makes sense considering Transformers Universe flip-flopped from being an online multiplayer shooter towards a LoL-clone.

We'll be lucky if we'll get a four hour campaign out of it, I think. On the other hand, this might just be the 'movie tie-in', and in that respect this sounds much better than any of the other preceding movie games.

Um two universes? Does that mean they can connect to each other like doing some Spiderman edge of time stuff

At first I was actually excited, but after thinking about this, it just looks like a cheap cash in. The Idea of these two universes colliding just SCREAMS the material was scraped off from past projects in order to make a new profit.

These are the two biggest universes out right now, but the only people who actually know that the Aligned and Bay-verse universes are not the same are those that actually spend as much time as we(the TF fandom) do. It's important to remember because why couldn't they just have the two universes "bleed" into one when the portion of the game's market never knew or cared that the universes were different. Then the cliche' MULTI-VERSE COLLISION ARC wouldn't have to be used to make what could be a great game.

This game will be rushed and undone, as its Activision and High Moon is no longer a studio.
And unless done with Bio-Shock-esque physics/story, there won't be a good reason for the two worlds colliding.I think the only way this could be acceptable on a cannon base story would be if FOC Shockwave tries to rebuild the space bridge after FOC and something goes wrong (though i would be skeptic from the start because Shockwave is too smart to make a mistake resulting in a space bridge opening a portal to another dimension completely).

This being said i'm sure i should just shut-up, stop being so picky, and enjoy the AWESOME THAT WILL ENSUE!!! WOOO!! IM CHOOSING FOC ALL THE WAY!! SCREW THE BAY-VERSE!!!

So does this mean I can pick my favorite bayformer and have him blast off FOC Omegas stupid monkey arms ? This might make it worth buying an xbox, ps4 or whatever it is people play these days...

Dead Metal wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:*Sigh* Well, it looks like I can finally cut myself off from these video games. It may be awesome in playability, but what drew me to WfC and FoC was the definite G1 tie in. I do not like the tie in to the movies (or even Prime, for that matter.)

WFC/FOC are not G1 though, they are (or where if this is going to be connected to the movies) Aligned, which means Prime.

True, but I find that more of a retcon. It seems clear to me that WfC, in particular, was meant to align with G1, or at the very least throw back to it. (Compare BB with G1 and Prime/the movies, and I think this is pretty clear.)

Also, I should state that I don't like Hasbro's attempts to "align" everything. They own the properties, so they get to do what they want. But I think it is wrong of them to stifle the imagination of their customers, which is what I think they are doing whether intentional or not. But, that's just my opinion...

No it's not, if you look at the behind the scenes stuff, the interviews, and the fact that the story is basically the same as all the other Prime prequel material it's clear that it's always been intended to serve as a tie-in to Prime. High Moon even said that they just wanted to let it look as close as possible to the G1 cartoon because that was their favorite incarnation and the one they grew up with.
If by looking vaguely like G1 is all it takes to convince you that it's supposed to be G1, then you probably also view Animated as G1.

So it is a crossover and not a real sequel to FOC? Lame, it doesn't even have High Moon attached from what I can tell.
Skipping this.

But, see, that's the same problem I'm having with Hasbro. Why must this align in a way that takes the customer, i.e. us, out of the creative process? Why not leave it open to interpretation how we all want to see it?

And, no, please don't put words/thoughts in my mouth. I can see a resemblance between BB of G1 and WfC, not Animated. If this was always intended to be Prime/aligned, then why not make BB look more like Prime BB? Because they wanted to have that G1 tie in, or throwback. The stories of WfC and Exodus, while not entirely consistent with the G1 cartoon mythology, could be reasonably integrated with each other, as long as one doesn't get too picky, in my opinion. Perhaps my memory is a little fuzzy, but I thought the aligned continuity idea came during WfC development. Now, granted, I didn't see the behind the scenes interviews, so I will gladly defer to you on that info. But, given how the game looked, the references to G1, it has the feel of decisions being made part way through to make changes to "align" things more.

But I do agree with you. I don't like the crossover idea at all and will be skipping this altogether.

awesome game can't wait till the movie!

During the craze of Toy Fair 2014, we hope you gamers out there got a kick out of the next game featuring our favorite transforming robots, Rise of the Dark Spark. In any case, the company developing the title, surprisingly, is not High Moon Studios. No, instead the game will be developed, Examiner.com reports, by Edge of Reality.

High Moon Studios, who developed Transformers: War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron, is not developing Rise of the Dark Spark. Edge of Reality, who previously worked on the Mass Effect Trilogy and Dragon Age: Origins, are developing Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark and the game will be available for the Xbox One, Xbox 360, PlayStation 4, PlayStation 3, PC, Wii U, and 3DS.

On a side note, for the 3DS version, the developer will be Way Forward, who is known for making Duck Tales: Remastered and other games.

I wonder what HMS is working on right now, I want to believe it's a AoE game, but who knows at this point.

No PC version = no interest from me.

Mkall wrote:No PC version = no interest from me.

At the end of the trailer it did have a PC logo.

I'm pretty big into my games and I've never heard of Edge of Reality. Having a quick look at the list of titles they've worked on I'm not filled with hope. Seems to be mostly ports and a handful of piss-poor licensed games.

Agamemnon wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:*Sigh* Well, it looks like I can finally cut myself off from these video games. It may be awesome in playability, but what drew me to WfC and FoC was the definite G1 tie in. I do not like the tie in to the movies (or even Prime, for that matter.)

WFC/FOC are not G1 though, they are (or where if this is going to be connected to the movies) Aligned, which means Prime.

True, but I find that more of a retcon. It seems clear to me that WfC, in particular, was meant to align with G1, or at the very least throw back to it. (Compare BB with G1 and Prime/the movies, and I think this is pretty clear.)

Also, I should state that I don't like Hasbro's attempts to "align" everything. They own the properties, so they get to do what they want. But I think it is wrong of them to stifle the imagination of their customers, which is what I think they are doing whether intentional or not. But, that's just my opinion...

No it's not, if you look at the behind the scenes stuff, the interviews, and the fact that the story is basically the same as all the other Prime prequel material it's clear that it's always been intended to serve as a tie-in to Prime. High Moon even said that they just wanted to let it look as close as possible to the G1 cartoon because that was their favorite incarnation and the one they grew up with.
If by looking vaguely like G1 is all it takes to convince you that it's supposed to be G1, then you probably also view Animated as G1.

So it is a crossover and not a real sequel to FOC? Lame, it doesn't even have High Moon attached from what I can tell.
Skipping this.

But, see, that's the same problem I'm having with Hasbro. Why must this align in a way that takes the customer, i.e. us, out of the creative process? Why not leave it open to interpretation how we all want to see it?

And, no, please don't put words/thoughts in my mouth. I can see a resemblance between BB of G1 and WfC, not Animated. If this was always intended to be Prime/aligned, then why not make BB look more like Prime BB? Because they wanted to have that G1 tie in, or throwback. The stories of WfC and Exodus, while not entirely consistent with the G1 cartoon mythology, could be reasonably integrated with each other, as long as one doesn't get too picky, in my opinion. Perhaps my memory is a little fuzzy, but I thought the aligned continuity idea came during WfC development. Now, granted, I didn't see the behind the scenes interviews, so I will gladly defer to you on that info. But, given how the game looked, the references to G1, it has the feel of decisions being made part way through to make changes to "align" things more.

But I do agree with you. I don't like the crossover idea at all and will be skipping this altogether.

Sorry, now that I re-read my comment, it sounds much more mean-spirited and douchy than I had intended. So I apologize.

Aligned was being worked on a long time before WFC, before Animated started. For instance, work on Animated started at about the same time the Energon toys hit shelves. And High Moon stated that they where working closely together with Hasbro from day one.
The only way WFC/FOC could work as being a prequel to G1, is if it was the prequel of a completely new G1, due to all the things in the games that don't work with all the G1 material we have.
As I stated, the designs are so G1y because that was the version the designers where most familiar and comfortable with. Yea, sure BB looks more like G1 BB than Prime BB, but then again we already have proof that these guys change their bodies. Megatron for instance got a new body in FOC that makes him look closer to Prime.
And if we tried to force this in G1, we would have to ignore almost 90% of the game, including all of the technology and the body designs, since really it's only really the heads that are G1. The bodies are more movie with all those complicated moving parts.
Seriously, if you really look at it, there is simply no way how this meshes with any incarnation of G1 ever.

And Hasbro wanted this to be part of the Aligned continuity, because they wanted it to. It's their property and they are trying to branch out into different forms of entertainment, one of which is story telling.

Also, don't forget that it's the stories and the media that actually make us attached to Transformers, and if we got to decide about those things, well it wouldn't really work anymore.

thats kind of disappointing but then again could be good, after war for cybertron high moon hasnt had a good track record. Fall of cybertron wasnt that great & dark of the moon & deadpool were failures. But edge of reality hasnt really done much, looking at the list of games they developed nothing stands out. They did a good job on the mass effect & dragon age ports but they didnt make the original games. Only time will tell at this point.