In hand Images of Titans Return Chaos on Velocitron Set with First Look at Titan Masters

Qwan wrote:WHAT ALREADY

I'm not prepared! I thought it'd still be a couple months before it came out! I haven't saved any money yet! Aaaargh

(Though on the other hand, they'll probably take a little longer to make their way to Australia if I imagine correctly. Blessing in disguise, I guess?)

Awesome find though, Ebonyleopard. Hope you enjoy the set, and do give us your thoughts - I'm really curious to see how these figures turned out! (Plus, do we know for certain yet whether Quickswitch has a new helmet or not? Toy Fair copy didn't, but renders did IIRC. This might be our first confirmation one way or the other.)

I'd still say give it a few months - if previous boxsets are any indication, there's no way it'll be sold out and it'll probably even be on sale. These don't even have the appeal of a combined form to sell quickly.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Ugh, so tempting, if only for Laser Prime and Quickswitch.

When you bust them out, please show all of their modes, especially Laser Prime's plane mode!

If you do that I'll pitch in for Nautica.

So the other titan masters have no names of their own?

Do the TMs have names?

Edit: Will's post didn't exist when I initially started typing this

Puhonix wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Ugh, so tempting, if only for Laser Prime and Quickswitch.

When you bust them out, please show all of their modes, especially Laser Prime's plane mode!

If you do that I'll pitch in for Nautica.

I'd chip in for Fastlane and Rodimus... (And maybe the poster if you're willing)

ScottyP wrote:Do the TMs have names?

Edit: Will's post didn't exist when I initially started typing this

Great minds and all that.

So in short; Rodimus decided to become a titan master so he could give a speed boost to anyone, Laser Prime can open portals now, and Nautica can apparently engineer faster-than-light engines on the go.

Are they just taking whatever abilities the non-combatant Autobots in MTMTE have and turning them into powers? First Chromedome's Mnemosurgery and now Nautica's quantum engineering? I don't know if I love this or not

Fastclash looks a little odd due to the lack of either a canopy or a cage to show a cockpit area's location - without it - it makes him look kinda war within alt mode like and much less car like as a result.

Ok. So, Fastclash Aka Fastlane is incredibly simple to transform (though so was his G1 counterpart). BUT, there is transformation elements in him that do not get used in his conversion but is obviously built in for his clone brother, Cloudraker. So it's a definite we'll be getting one of him.

Rodimus Prime head is nice, the colors are much more muted than Hot Rod's with a slight Magenta like color on the crest of his forehead. The diecast is only in the face of the TM, not the whole TM.

Nautica is pretty much what you'd expect from a Blurr repaint. Same transformation, though her head definitely goes in nice and snug (was almost worried I was pushing too hard to get it in place. The connection hole was pretty tight). There is no given name for her TM, so I guess he's wholely Nautica.

Laser Prime is EXACTLY like the already release nor traditionally colored Prime coming out now. His head is much more light blue than I was expecting. I'd say, if you gotta get one, you might as well wait for this boxset to come out and just own it once as a Prime. G2 color scheme does look nice on him and while the stickers are decently added on, some seem to be just slightly big for the area they are covering (particularly on the chest) and of course, who wouldn't rather put the stickers on themselves if something is going to have stickers?

Quickswitch is indeed his father's son. He's pretty much a straight recoloring of Sixshot with the only different thing being the TM face plate. He does indeed have the same helmet as Quickswitch. Easiest way to make them look dramatically different from one another is to not pull out the chest wings and just leave them inside their inner compartment. That being said though, his paint is well done. They've pretty much nailed the color scheme. Really the thing that would have made it stand out more would have been if they gave him different weapons (Render form folks, you got some work to do. New guns for Quickswitch, a gun for Fastclash, and a wrench for Nautica).

Overall, is the set worth $99? I think so. They're nice updates of their G1 (or in the case of Prime G2) counterparts, and while many are repaints, the paint jobs are decent enough to visually make them look different from their original mode brothers (or fathers).

Now to get another Hot Rod for the Rodimus Head (and maybe someone will make a trailer attachment for this Hotrod like they did in the past for the old Generations Rodimus).

(oops, sorry for the sideways pictures, not sure why my Iphone posted them in that way.)

Kurona wrote:So in short; Rodimus decided to become a titan master so he could give a speed boost to anyone, Laser Prime can open portals now, and Nautica can apparently engineer faster-than-light engines on the go.

Are they just taking whatever abilities the non-combatant Autobots in MTMTE have and turning them into powers? First Chromedome's Mnemosurgery and now Nautica's quantum engineering? I don't know if I love this or not

Perhaps Prime's portals open up to more forests for him to burn.

I think it's really neat that they have their comic abilities. However it would probably leave a kid confused if he got Chromedome and found out his brand new Autobot warrior can only mess with memories instead of super strength or speed.

It does leave me slightly disappointed they didn't give Brainstorm the power to make weapons out of thin air.

I was saving up for a Switch but this set might just set me back a bit...if I can find it.

I wonder what that kanji(?) symbol on Quickswitch's headband says.


Is the spoiler on Fastlane connected to his head via a giant beam??

Noideaforaname wrote:I wonder what that kanji(?) symbol on Quickswitch's headband says.


Is the spoiler on Fastlane connected to his head via a giant beam??

Yes, sorta like the G1 version. I believe though, this is what the plane cockpit will be attached too for Cloudraker.

Fellow Seibertronian Ebonyleopard has already provided us images of the alt modes for the Chaos on Velocitron set and now not only does he have the robot modes, but he also has a written review for us, which you can find below. Allow me to spoil something first though, Quickswitch does not have the retooled helmet shown in the Hasbro renders. Instead his body is a straight up redeco of Sixshot.

Ebonyleopard wrote:Ok. So, Fastclash Aka Fastlane is incredibly simple to transform (though so was his G1 counterpart). BUT, there is transformation elements in him that do not get used in his conversion but is obviously built in for his clone brother, Cloudraker. So it's a definite we'll be getting one of him.

Rodimus Prime head is nice, the colors are much more muted than Hot Rod's with a slight Magenta like color on the crest of his forehead. The diecast is only in the face of the TM, not the whole TM.

Nautica is pretty much what you'd expect from a Blurr repaint. Same transformation, though her head definitely goes in nice and snug (was almost worried I was pushing too hard to get it in place. The connection hole was pretty tight). There is no given name for her TM, so I guess he's wholely Nautica.

Laser Prime is EXACTLY like the already release nor traditionally colored Prime coming out now. His head is much more light blue than I was expecting. I'd say, if you gotta get one, you might as well wait for this boxset to come out and just own it once as a Prime. G2 color scheme does look nice on him and while the stickers are decently added on, some seem to be just slightly big for the area they are covering (particularly on the chest) and of course, who wouldn't rather put the stickers on themselves if something is going to have stickers?

Quickswitch is indeed his father's son. He's pretty much a straight recoloring of Sixshot with the only different thing being the TM face plate. He does indeed have the same helmet as Quickswitch. Easiest way to make them look dramatically different from one another is to not pull out the chest wings and just leave them inside their inner compartment. That being said though, his paint is well done. They've pretty much nailed the color scheme. Really the thing that would have made it stand out more would have been if they gave him different weapons (Render form folks, you got some work to do. New guns for Quickswitch, a gun for Fastclash, and a wrench for Nautica).

Overall, is the set worth $99? I think so. They're nice updates of their G1 (or in the case of Prime G2) counterparts, and while many are repaints, the paint jobs are decent enough to visually make them look different from their original mode brothers (or fathers).

Now to get another Hot Rod for the Rodimus Head (and maybe someone will make a trailer attachment for this Hotrod like they did in the past for the old Generations Rodimus).

william-james88 wrote:

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Blessing in Disguise

Ebonyleopard wrote:

Ah man, that's too bad that he still has Sixshot's helmet (you wrote that he has "the same helmet as Quickswitch" in your post BTW) but it looks like the colors are different enough that he can stand relatively well apart from Sixshot! Especially with the chest-wings in, and the wolf-toes tucked up in robot mode (as opposed to Sixshot, on whom I will be keeping those toes flipped out).

Also, someone get onto that symbol on his headband! Is it the same as Sixshot's? Does it mean something? I don't know!

Quickswitch's symbol on his head is the same as Sixshot's, but flipped upside down.

Edit: Actually. No it's not. Just looked closser. It's its own symbol.
Myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Baaaaaaaaaaaaad.

Sooo.... What's the deal with Fastlane? It looks like he doesn't have a Titan Master, yet... Is he a Deluxe Class, or is he more like a Legends class?

Would it really have killed them to do a little more retooling? Puma head for Quickswitch and a rounder shield/front for Nautica. It can't have been that difficult.

Hasbro you were being a bit cheap with the render showing Quickswitch with a new helm then not actually giving him it.

And do I need to come round to Rhode Island and explain to you personally that a Doggy-&-a-Pussy are not the same thing.

Noideaforaname wrote:I wonder what that kanji(?) symbol on Quickswitch's headband says.

Qwan wrote:Also, someone get onto that symbol on his headband! Is it the same as Sixshot's? Does it mean something? I don't know!

Cobotron wrote:Quickswitch's symbol on his head is the same as Sixshot's, but flipped upside down.

Edit: Actually. No it's not. Just looked closser. It's its own symbol.
Myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Baaaaaaaaaaaaad.

The closest Kanji I can find to resembling that symbol is the Kanji 廿 (Nijū), which means 20.

Not sure why they'd pick that for a Sixchanger, if that even is what the symbol is supposed to be.

When I get the set, I might consider selling off Quickswitch. Don't really want or need him. the other 4 though look good enough and I'll keep them.

Dammit for the stickers. Gah, stupid things

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed in TR that there have been more leader Decepticons? Soundwave, Six Shot, and Sky Shadow for the Decepticons with only Prime and Blaster for the Autobots.

A little disappointing that Quickswitch got the short end of the quick-stick, but it doesn't really matter if he'll be a back liner on the shelf. Also a little worrying I'll be experiencing half the mold for the first time from this set
I'm never forgiving my local TRU. They seriously just restocked CW WAVE 6!!!!!!

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Is it just me or has anyone else noticed in TR that there have been more leader Decepticons? Soundwave, Six Shot, and Sky Shadow for the Decepticons with only Prime and Blaster for the Autobots.

Similarly, CW had Megatron, Armada Megatron, and the three Seekers vs. just Ultra Magnus.

Sabrblade wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Is it just me or has anyone else noticed in TR that there have been more leader Decepticons? Soundwave, Six Shot, and Sky Shadow for the Decepticons with only Prime and Blaster for the Autobots.

Similarly, CW had Megatron, Armada Megatron, and the three Seekers vs. just Ultra Magnus.

It's just this time they are making good Decepticons

Sabrblade wrote:

Noideaforaname wrote:I wonder what that kanji(?) symbol on Quickswitch's headband says.

Qwan wrote:Also, someone get onto that symbol on his headband! Is it the same as Sixshot's? Does it mean something? I don't know!

Cobotron wrote:Quickswitch's symbol on his head is the same as Sixshot's, but flipped upside down.

Edit: Actually. No it's not. Just looked closser. It's its own symbol.
Myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Baaaaaaaaaaaaad.

The closest Kanji I can find to resembling that symbol is the Kanji 廿 (Nijū), which means 20.

Not sure why they'd pick that for a Sixchanger, if that even is what the symbol is supposed to be.

You guys are over thinking it, it's just the crest on the original figure's forehead slightly embellished.



Emerje

The Clones are all tentatively designated as Legends Class figures, but a combination of factors renders them unfit for individual sale. Fastclash having no cockpit is directly inspired by G1 Fastlane:


Transformers G1 1987 Fastlane Gallery

Cloudraker does have one, so make of that what you will.

No guns for the clones, that stinks.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Cloudraker does have one, so make of that what you will.

Victim of sharing a torso design with a jet. Apparently it makes more sense to not sculpt a window on a car than to explain why a jet has a vestigial window on the back. Frankly, I would have gone with the window.

Emerje

chuckdawg1999 wrote:No guns for the clones, that stinks.

Other Legends Class figures, except for Rewind and Rumble have no weapons either, so it's par on course. Fastclash should have the standard 5mm holes, so he could always borrow some guns.

And I hope that helmet is an overlooked error on Quickswitch, so it can be fixed with a running change. Not that I should care, right?

So Quickswitch has his crest on the Titan Master, but no remolded helmet?
That's a big mistake.
How does go about reporting a major error like this to Hasbro?

Emerje wrote:You guys are over thinking it, it's just the crest on the original figure's forehead slightly embellished.

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Emerje

Also as a bonus it looks like a "V" with a horizontal "I" (yeah, I'm reaching) for a grand total of VI

Also from these boxsets I believe we're evening out on Leaders by faction.

Autobots:
Powermaster Optimus Prime
Blaster
Quickswitch
Magnus Prime

Decepticons:
Soundwave
Six Shot
Sky Shadow
Overlord

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:No guns for the clones, that stinks.

Other Legends Class figures, except for Rewind and Rumble have no weapons either, so it's par on course. Fastclash should have the standard 5mm holes, so he could always borrow some guns.

And I hope that helmet is an overlooked error on Quickswitch, so it can be fixed with a running change. Not that I should care, right?

At least for me, the clones will probably get Hot Rod's guns...

Or he'll keep them and Titan Master Roddy Prime will man them like a boss. I haven't decided yet

DecepticonFinishline wrote:Sooo.... What's the deal with Fastlane? It looks like he doesn't have a Titan Master, yet... Is he a Deluxe Class, or is he more like a Legends class?

Clones are their own class and not linked to Titans Return in aany way in terms of functionality. So no titan masters, no way to pilot them, really their own subline divided up in 4 boxsets. They are also the size of the old scouts.

VanOscuro wrote:Would it really have killed them to do a little more retooling? Puma head for Quickswitch and a rounder shield/front for Nautica. It can't have been that difficult.

I am also peeved by this. Its minimal effort.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:When I get the set, I might consider selling off Quickswitch. Don't really want or need him. the other 4 though look good enough and I'll keep them.

Dammit for the stickers. Gah, stupid things

I am surprised, I thought you were really looking forward to having two of this mold

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Is it just me or has anyone else noticed in TR that there have been more leader Decepticons? Soundwave, Six Shot, and Sky Shadow for the Decepticons with only Prime and Blaster for the Autobots.

hasbro said they were focusing on decepticons in this line and releasing all six phasers. So what you are noticing is something hasbro already confirmed is happening.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:It's just this time they are making good Decepticons

Arent all Decepticons bad

Emerje wrote:You guys are over thinking it, it's just the crest on the original figure's forehead slightly embellished.

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Emerje

My dear Emerje, you are a bit out of the loop here. Look at the most recent news stories about this set and you will understand whats going on here.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And I hope that helmet is an overlooked error on Quickswitch, so it can be fixed with a running change. Not that I should care, right?

I care quite a bit.

Manterax Prime wrote:So Quickswitch has his crest on the Titan Master, but no remolded helmet?
That's a big mistake.
How does go about reporting a major error like this to Hasbro?

Right here: https://hasbro-new.custhelp.com/app/answers/list

The entire figure's a huge mistake, so...

That's kind of interesting about the clones - the only figures in TR without any sort of Titan Master compatibility whatsoever? Not even some token feet pegs like on Laserbeak? Weird.

Maaaan it frustrates me that Laser Prime looks so good though... I want nothing else in this set and he looks bloody amazing.

william-james88 wrote:

VanOscuro wrote:Would it really have killed them to do a little more retooling? Puma head for Quickswitch and a rounder shield/front for Nautica. It can't have been that difficult.

I am also peeved by this. Its minimal effort.

This is shortsighted.

This set has a brand new mold in it, which is already more than can be said for the CW boxed sets. Nautica has two very large new pieces relative to the size of the figure.

Of course they could have "done more". This is almost always true. Will, you seem especially price conscious for these products throughout the various discussions on these boards. Would you be willing to pay $125-$150 for these sets if it meant more tooling? Hasbro likely has numbers to say that the aggregate of the fandom wouldn't.

Not seeing more retooling isn't laziness, it's cost control.

ScottyP wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

VanOscuro wrote:Would it really have killed them to do a little more retooling? Puma head for Quickswitch and a rounder shield/front for Nautica. It can't have been that difficult.

I am also peeved by this. Its minimal effort.

This is shortsighted.

This set has a brand new mold in it, which is already more than can be said for the CW boxed sets. Nautica has two very large new pieces relative to the size of the figure.

Of course they could have "done more". This is almost always true. Will, you seem especially price conscious for these products throughout the various discussions on these boards. Would you be willing to pay $125-$150 for these sets if it meant more tooling? Hasbro likely has numbers to say that the aggregate of the fandom wouldn't.

Not seeing more retooling isn't laziness, it's cost control.

This. Aside from Optimus Prime (and even then it's a fairly obtuse version of him) and Hot Rod's head this set is total D-listers. I love Quickswitch but I'm honestly astounded there's an updated figure of him at all, and I'm sure that that's only attributable to the fact that Titans Returns allows for even cheaper than usual head retools.

OMG THIS IS COOL! IS IT A TRU EXCLUSIVE????????????????????

joevill wrote:OMG THIS IS COOL! IS IT A TRU EXCLUSIVE????????????????????

Yes.

ScottyP wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I am also peeved by this. Its minimal effort.

This is shortsighted.

I was referring to the fact that they showed us the toy would have retooling in their renders but ended up not giving us that. If I would not have been told I would get something, I would have a similar opinion to you.

william-james88 wrote:

ScottyP wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I am also peeved by this. Its minimal effort.

This is shortsighted.

I was referring to the fact that they showed us the toy would have retooling in their renders but ended up not giving us that. If I would not have been told I would get something, I would have a similar opinion to you.

The very finished looking product on the Toy Fair show floor had the Sixshot helmet in red though. It should have been expected at that point that this was what was coming. If it was a legit mistake, I'd cautiously hazard a guess that later runs will be different, if they even occur.

Additionally, I don't care about Quickswitch so maybe that colors how I'm thinking about this too.

ScottyP wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

ScottyP wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I am also peeved by this. Its minimal effort.

This is shortsighted.

I was referring to the fact that they showed us the toy would have retooling in their renders but ended up not giving us that. If I would not have been told I would get something, I would have a similar opinion to you.

The very finished looking product on the Toy Fair show floor had the Sixshot helmet in red though. It should have been expected at that point that this was what was coming.

But all reports from toyfair (which I heard on your podcast) were that those were not finished products but painted mock ups. So I dont see how they can be seen as "very finished looking products". Although i will give you that Hasbro's Afterburner did have the right head on the show floor when first revealed, while the official pic didnt, so this has happened before. I just think that it was normal for us fans to expect something shown to us and its all right to be dissapointed by the final result.

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Is it just me or has anyone else noticed in TR that there have been more leader Decepticons? Soundwave, Six Shot, and Sky Shadow for the Decepticons with only Prime and Blaster for the Autobots.

hasbro said they were focusing on decepticons in this line and releasing all six phasers. So what you are noticing is something hasbro already confirmed is happening.

Conversely, though, we have almost double the number Autobot Deluxes (and Titan Master) class figures when compared to the Decepticons. We'll have more big Decepticons, but as far as I've seen the numbers will still (as always) be in favor of the Autobots.

DecepticonFinishline wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Is it just me or has anyone else noticed in TR that there have been more leader Decepticons? Soundwave, Six Shot, and Sky Shadow for the Decepticons with only Prime and Blaster for the Autobots.

hasbro said they were focusing on decepticons in this line and releasing all six phasers. So what you are noticing is something hasbro already confirmed is happening.

Conversely, though, we have almost double the number Autobot Deluxes (and Titan Master) class figures when compared to the Decepticons. We'll have more big Decepticons, but as far as I've seen the numbers will still (as always) be in favor of the Autobots.

You can call it tradition then. The cons are bigger and stronger with military advantage and the autobots have numbers!

So if anyone wants to see a clear image of how Rodimus looks on Hot Rod... pretty good!

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:You guys are over thinking it, it's just the crest on the original figure's forehead slightly embellished.

My dear Emerje, you are a bit out of the loop here. Look at the most recent news stories about this set and you will understand whats going on here.

Will, my friend, I do believe it is you that is out of the loop. Instead of reading the portion of my post that Diem quoted go back and read the whole post to see what we're actually talking about.

Emerje

william-james88 wrote:

DecepticonFinishline wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Is it just me or has anyone else noticed in TR that there have been more leader Decepticons? Soundwave, Six Shot, and Sky Shadow for the Decepticons with only Prime and Blaster for the Autobots.

hasbro said they were focusing on decepticons in this line and releasing all six phasers. So what you are noticing is something hasbro already confirmed is happening.

Conversely, though, we have almost double the number Autobot Deluxes (and Titan Master) class figures when compared to the Decepticons. We'll have more big Decepticons, but as far as I've seen the numbers will still (as always) be in favor of the Autobots.

You can call it tradition then. The cons are bigger and stronger with military advantage and the autobots have numbers!

Ehhh! Bah humbug tradition. I need my Decepticon shelves more fleshed out!

Also, I believed them when they said it; but now I'm not entirely sure why Hasbro is telling us the Clones are their own class and the same size as the old Scouts - they're the same size as Bumblebee! Is it to do with parts count?

Emerje wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:You guys are over thinking it, it's just the crest on the original figure's forehead slightly embellished.

My dear Emerje, you are a bit out of the loop here. Look at the most recent news stories about this set and you will understand whats going on here.

Will, my friend, I do believe it is you that is out of the loop. Instead of reading the portion of my post that Diem quoted go back and read the whole post to see what we're actually talking about.

Emerje

I'll quote whatever extracts I want AND die trying!

Toysrus on the south side of Des Moines Iowa is fully stocked if anyone on here is from there. I picked mine up and the guy said they came in today and just put them out!!!