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New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives

Transformers News: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives

Wednesday, September 22nd, 2021 9:51PM CDT

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We have been sent a list of upcoming toys for 2022 and we are breaking them down per line. Of course, since we only have listed names from ordering sheets and no actual listings, you should take these with a grain of salt.

This list below is for the new Velocitron line from Walmart which will be made up of redecos (at least mainly), similarly to the Netflix lines. These are characters from various toylines/continuities and it is unknown which molds they will use (though Clampdown should be from one of the Sideswipe molds).

We also have various retailer exclusives which are broken down by retailer. Target is getting MPM Blackout and Walgreens is getting Minerva. There is also a new Shine line that will have vs packs.

Velocitron

Deluxe:
Tra Gen velocitron Burnout x2
Tra Gen velocitron Road Rocket x2
Tra Gen velocitron Blurr x2
Tra Gen velocitron Clampdown x1
Tra Gen velocitron Cosmos x1

Voyager:
Tra Gen Velocitron Override x2
Tra Gen Velocitron Road Hauler x1

Leader:
Tra Gen Velocitron Black Convoy x2

Walgreens:
Tra Gen legacy Dlx Minerva x8

Target:
Tra Gen Dlx Red Card 1 x8
Tra Gen Dlx Red Card 2 x8
Tra MPM Blackout x2

Tra Shine:
Soundwave vs Optimus Prime x2
Bumblebee vs Starscream x2

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Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2116529)
Posted by sol magnus on September 22nd, 2021 @ 10:02pm CDT
Tra Gen Velocitron Black Convoy x2

Here's your Laser Convoy repaint right here, and I'm here for it.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2116532)
Posted by TulioDude on September 22nd, 2021 @ 11:00pm CDT
Tra MPM Blackout



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Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2116534)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 22nd, 2021 @ 11:21pm CDT
Nemesis Primal wrote:Also according to a new post, they'll be calling RiD Scourge by his Japanese name Black Convoy to minimize name reuse, I guess.
So, will this be the first official Hasbro Transformers toy released at American retail stores to bear the name "Convoy"?
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2116547)
Posted by CyclonusG1 on September 23rd, 2021 @ 2:31am CDT
I'm going to be really disappointed if Minerva really is a walgreens exclusive. Being in the UK, the walgreens exclusives never seem to show up, I had to import Ratchet back in Siege. Hopefully, Pulse UK will stock it so those of us outside of the States have some kind of chance to get one.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2116549)
Posted by Munkky on September 23rd, 2021 @ 3:16am CDT
CyclonusG1 wrote:I'm going to be really disappointed if Minerva really is a walgreens exclusive. Being in the UK, the walgreens exclusives never seem to show up, I had to import Ratchet back in Siege. Hopefully, Pulse UK will stock it so those of us outside of the States have some kind of chance to get one.

This year's Walgreen's exclusive, Red Alert, did make it to the UK, and at brick-and-mortar to boot. I found mine at a comic book shop in Birmingham called Worlds Apart, but even then, he's still available on Hasbro Pulse UK. I think the same thing will happen with Minerva, she'll pop up in a few smaller retailers like Forbidden Planet or Worlds Apart, and have a listing on Hasbro Pulse UK. It's clear that Hasbro have learned their lesson from the Amazon exclusive Earthrise box sets, because it's a lot easier to get exclusives now than it was a few years ago.

For the figures listed here, I am interested in Minerva and Override, but seeing as Override is going to be an extensive retool of Studio Series 1986 Hot Rod, I'll wait to see how that actually turns out before I commit to buying one.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2116550)
Posted by Coptur on September 23rd, 2021 @ 4:12am CDT
Well looks like Cosmos is next year's VW bumblebee :-(
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2116555)
Posted by CyclonusG1 on September 23rd, 2021 @ 6:04am CDT
Munkky wrote:
CyclonusG1 wrote:I'm going to be really disappointed if Minerva really is a walgreens exclusive. Being in the UK, the walgreens exclusives never seem to show up, I had to import Ratchet back in Siege. Hopefully, Pulse UK will stock it so those of us outside of the States have some kind of chance to get one.

This year's Walgreen's exclusive, Red Alert, did make it to the UK, and at brick-and-mortar to boot. I found mine at a comic book shop in Birmingham called Worlds Apart, but even then, he's still available on Hasbro Pulse UK. I think the same thing will happen with Minerva, she'll pop up in a few smaller retailers like Forbidden Planet or Worlds Apart, and have a listing on Hasbro Pulse UK. It's clear that Hasbro have learned their lesson from the Amazon exclusive Earthrise box sets, because it's a lot easier to get exclusives now than it was a few years ago.

For the figures listed here, I am interested in Minerva and Override, but seeing as Override is going to be an extensive retool of Studio Series 1986 Hot Rod, I'll wait to see how that actually turns out before I commit to buying one.


I honestly completely forgot about Red Alert. I forgot he was even an exclusive considering how relatively easy he has been to aquire with a lot of online stores stocking him, never seen it in stores but then again the closest to me that might is Forbidden Planet which I've not been to in a while. Hopefully it's a ttend that will continue. Some of the older exclusives are showing up here to, with the Rainmakers coming in stock online frequently so at least Hasbro aren't completely ignoring their European fanbase
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2116557)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on September 23rd, 2021 @ 7:18am CDT
With the voyager case count being 3, I'm wondering if these will have normal voyager and leader price points now, and no extra battle masters for the voyagers and no extra thing buried in play doh for the leaders. I believe the netflix voyagers were 2 per case, so this could be a change. Or, it could just be another mistake on the case counts.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2116558)
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 23rd, 2021 @ 7:28am CDT
Coptur wrote:Well looks like Cosmos is next year's VW bumblebee :-(

Are you talking about his size? Like Huffer/Pipes/Warpath in Kingdom?
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2116560)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on September 23rd, 2021 @ 8:04am CDT
Netflix Bumblebee wasn't a recolor of a mainline figure, so maybe Road Rocket and Cosmos will be new molds too. On the other hand, Netflix Bumblebee's mold did not get a recolor as anyone else, so that sucked (really wanted Glyph).

ZeroWolf wrote:
Coptur wrote:Well looks like Cosmos is next year's VW bumblebee :-(

Are you talking about his size? Like Huffer/Pipes/Warpath in Kingdom?


I think he means it's a 1/Case Walmart exclusive G1 figure.

I'll be interested to see Override - I'm guessing she'll be a retool of SS86 Hot Rod, which will be different.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2116564)
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 23rd, 2021 @ 8:19am CDT
I think the licence issue may have prevented anything other then a 1 time use for the mold (hence why we got that bee in the worlds collide set)

At least there won't be anything stopping Cosmos from getting re-issued.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2116567)
Posted by Coptur on September 23rd, 2021 @ 8:32am CDT
I was meaning the hardest to get hold of especially as there's one per case. :-(

The VW license is a pain seems to be restricted/limited to bee and no one else.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2116568)
Posted by jtanimator on September 23rd, 2021 @ 9:01am CDT
MPM BLACKOUT!!!! He’s gonna be a BIG BOY Heck yeah!!!
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2116574)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 23rd, 2021 @ 9:36am CDT
Well, Volkswagen is a German company and, after WWII, it is understandable that they would be uneasy about being involved in a children's toy brand that promotes warfare and (laser) gun violence, even if the one character they allow to use their license is one of the "good guys".
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2116578)
Posted by Coptur on September 23rd, 2021 @ 9:49am CDT
I get that.
But trying to hide the history doesn't change the history.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2116589)
Posted by william-james88 on September 23rd, 2021 @ 11:06am CDT
Coptur wrote:I get that.
But trying to hide the history doesn't change the history.


It could easily be argued that this stance ensures history isn't forgotten as opposed to not acknowledging anything and doing as if it's all business as usual.

Like right now, people are asking why it's so different with Volkswagen, well due to history. So now it keeps getting acknowledged and remembered.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2116612)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on September 23rd, 2021 @ 1:44pm CDT
Walgreens:
Tra Gen legacy Dlx Minerva x8

Probably another repaint of Arcee. It would be nice if they actually did the Headmaster juniors as their own thing and look a little more like them instead of just redoing the body's of previous headmasters.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2116624)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on September 23rd, 2021 @ 2:32pm CDT
Rodimus Knight wrote:Walgreens:
Tra Gen legacy Dlx Minerva x8

Probably another repaint of Arcee. It would be nice if they actually did the Headmaster juniors as their own thing and look a little more like them instead of just redoing the body's of previous headmasters.
Rumors/leaks say she'll be using the new Legacy Elita-1's mold, but also that Minerva is actually said mold's intended use and it's being released as Elita first since she's more marketable (I guess) in a similar vein to how we saw Titans Return Optimus and Megatron before we saw Octane and Blitzwing.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2116629)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on September 23rd, 2021 @ 3:36pm CDT
Nemesis Primal wrote:
Rodimus Knight wrote:Walgreens:
Tra Gen legacy Dlx Minerva x8

Probably another repaint of Arcee. It would be nice if they actually did the Headmaster juniors as their own thing and look a little more like them instead of just redoing the body's of previous headmasters.
Rumors/leaks say she'll be using the new Legacy Elita-1's mold, but also that Minerva is actually said mold's intended use and it's being released as Elita first since she's more marketable (I guess) in a similar vein to how we saw Titans Return Optimus and Megatron before we saw Octane and Blitzwing.


That sounds a little more promising. Will she be a headmaster or will she just be a "normal" transformer?
I'd like to see the version from Super God Masterforce, but they might be going more for the brief appearance in animated.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2116788)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 26th, 2021 @ 9:52am CDT
The figure that most interests me here is Black Convoy. I only need a Black Convoy and Ruination to complete my RiD2001 bad guys shelf, and I don't intend to get the retail Laser Prime, so it would be great to get that mold and cross a guy off the list to complete a cast
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2122394)
Posted by william-james88 on December 2nd, 2021 @ 10:26pm CST
Take this one with a grain of salt please. But it has been stated by someone in the know that we could be getting an Alpha Trion and Orion Pax two pack next year. It was said to be the SDCC exclusive. While that's all that was said, it can be easy to guess what molds could be used if this did come to pass. With a nice new Kup mold in the SS86 line, an Orion Pax redeco should be right around the corner. As for Alpha Trion, some have guessed the Scourge mold which would fit. We really don't know more than this, but we wanted to share this rumour with you. To give you an idea of what the colour placement would be on the SS 86 Kup figure, here is a digi bash from Cryptic on Twitter.

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Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2122396)
Posted by Randomhero on December 2nd, 2021 @ 10:35pm CST
When are you guys gonna stop posting these garbage digibashes. Every time you do people freak out thinking it’s what it is (because apparently reading is hard)even though it states in the article it’s not and you remove it from the article due to confusion. Literally every time.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2122400)
Posted by Munkky on December 3rd, 2021 @ 2:17am CST
I'd be down for a new Alpha Trion, and I've never owned a version of the Scourge mould but have heard great things about it. Orion I can take or leave, he would probably end up on the "Didn't really want it but it was in a twin-pack with someone I did want" pile with Lifeline and Maximal Skywarp.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2122404)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 3rd, 2021 @ 4:59am CST
Remolding/repainting SS86 Scourge and Kup would be pretty smart. Only thing that would need fixing for Pax is to skip the removable arms gimmick. Those would be pointless and make no sense.

Now if that's an "exclusive" that will be as easy to get as the Siege Refraktor trio boxset, that would be great.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2122409)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 3rd, 2021 @ 8:36am CST
Randomhero wrote:When are you guys gonna stop posting these garbage digibashes. Every time you do people freak out thinking it’s what it is (because apparently reading is hard)even though it states in the article it’s not and you remove it from the article due to confusion. Literally every time.


Not their fault if all people do is read the headline and look at the pretty pictures, but skip the article itself. >:oP

Alpha Trion out of Scourge has precedence, really:

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Head may need retooling (if there isn't an alternate head already). Orion out of Kup has been done quite a few times:

- G1 Kup into e-Hobby Orion Pax
- TR Kup into Movie Tribute Orion Pax
- T30 Orion Pax into unreleased Kup (alternate head confirmed to be Kup)
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2122410)
Posted by Cyber Bishop on December 3rd, 2021 @ 8:51am CST
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Not their fault if all people do is read the headline and look at the pretty pictures, but skip the article itself. >:oP


This right here... It happens all over too..
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2122414)
Posted by sol magnus on December 3rd, 2021 @ 9:47am CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:Remolding/repainting SS86 Scourge and Kup would be pretty smart. Only thing that would need fixing for Pax is to skip the removable arms gimmick. Those would be pointless and make no sense.

I can make it make sense easily. He got destroyed and rebuilt into Optimus Prime in at least one iteration of the story.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2122415)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on December 3rd, 2021 @ 10:42am CST
sol magnus wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Remolding/repainting SS86 Scourge and Kup would be pretty smart. Only thing that would need fixing for Pax is to skip the removable arms gimmick. Those would be pointless and make no sense.

I can make it make sense easily. He got destroyed and rebuilt into Optimus Prime in at least one iteration of the story.


Plus, there is no way to easily adjust a mold to turn a 2 part bicep or thigh into a single part. It would basically require new arm and leg molds.

Of course there is a really easy way to make each limb a single piece on your own. That would be called super glue.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2122422)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 3rd, 2021 @ 12:10pm CST
Cyber Bishop wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Not their fault if all people do is read the headline and look at the pretty pictures, but skip the article itself. >:oP


This right here... It happens all over too..


It's the bane of modern society.
Hell, it's even from before the internet was a thing.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2122429)
Posted by TK415 on December 3rd, 2021 @ 2:05pm CST
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
Randomhero wrote:When are you guys gonna stop posting these garbage digibashes. Every time you do people freak out thinking it’s what it is (because apparently reading is hard)even though it states in the article it’s not and you remove it from the article due to confusion. Literally every time.


Not their fault if all people do is read the headline and look at the pretty pictures, but skip the article itself. >:oP

Alpha Trion out of Scourge has precedence, really:

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Head may need retooling (if there isn't an alternate head already). Orion out of Kup has been done quite a few times:

- G1 Kup into e-Hobby Orion Pax
- TR Kup into Movie Tribute Orion Pax
- T30 Orion Pax into unreleased Kup (alternate head confirmed to be Kup)


Would love to get an official release of Alpha Trion!
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2122451)
Posted by cloudballoon on December 3rd, 2021 @ 4:09pm CST
I have the Generations mold (which the digibash took the head out of) and it's much better than SS86 Kup -- look, articulation & plastic quality. So Orion Pax is a big miss for me, that mold is just not worth double dipping on.

I have the triple changing Alpha Trion and while it's a fun toy, it's nowhere near accurate in the looks department, so I look forward to seeing actual reveal of this anouncement. If it's much better, I'll bite the 2-pack price.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2122470)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 3rd, 2021 @ 7:04pm CST
cloudballoon wrote:I have the Generations mold (which the digibash took the head out of) and it's much better than SS86 Kup -- look, articulation
I can't speak re: articulation, but you're flat-out wrong about the look.

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This is G1 Orion Pax. SS86 Kup comes decidedly closer to that look than the old deluxe (which was an Aligned toy labeled as the G1 incarnation), as far as existing toys go.

The digibash should have used the PotP head, tho.

cloudballoon wrote:& plastic quality.
Now on this front, you're just plain delusional. :lol:

I hope we get some official data on this line soon.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2122473)
Posted by TulioDude on December 3rd, 2021 @ 7:25pm CST
I get that the original Kup toy being repainted was the way they found to give us a Orion Pax toy,but Orion Pax got two molds for himself after that(Thrilling 30 and Power of the Primes),so why keep repainting Kup in him?

Day 703 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2122475)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 3rd, 2021 @ 7:47pm CST
TulioDude wrote:I get that the original Kup toy being repainted was the way they found to give us a Orion Pax toy,but Orion Pax got two molds for himself after that(Thrilling 30 and Power of the Primes),so why keep repainting Kup in him?

Day 703 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Thrilling 30 doesn't count IMO, ESPECIALLY if you're going for the G1 cartoon. And PotP... while that would be ideal since it's the actual cartoon Orion Pax robot mode, I don't know that they'd be able to sell the Orion Pax part standalone. And I somehow doubt they'd do either a full Leader or a brand-new standalone Orion mold as part of a 2-pack like this.

Side note, both Aligned (IIRC) and 2019 IDW "Orion Pax" feel more like Optronix mislabeled.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2122478)
Posted by cloudballoon on December 3rd, 2021 @ 8:15pm CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
cloudballoon wrote:I have the Generations mold (which the digibash took the head out of) and it's much better than SS86 Kup -- look, articulation
I can't speak re: articulation, but you're flat-out wrong about the look.

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This is Orion Pax. SS86 Kup comes decidedly closer to that look than the old deluxe, as far as existing bodies go.

The digibash should have used the PotP head, tho.

cloudballoon wrote:& plastic quality.
Now on this front, you're just plain delusional. :lol:

I hope we get some official data on this line soon.


I don't disagree that SS86 Kup got a closer body type & styling to the toon look than the Generations Orion Pax, like, by miles. But the Generations toy is an original take on Orion Pax, not a repaint/redeco, and I love it for the originality. The transformation's fun and quite unique too. I thought that Generations Orion Pax's alt mode is conceptually closer to Optimus Prime's (Cybertron OR Earth) truck than Kup's alt mode as well. So I was like "Yes! Finally Hasbro got (retcon?) Orion Pax right!" when it came out.

So if you let me have only one Orion Pax figure out to the existing ones + this rumored SS86 Kup redeco, I'd STILL pick the 1st Generations version.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2122483)
Posted by sol magnus on December 3rd, 2021 @ 9:39pm CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
cloudballoon wrote:I have the Generations mold (which the digibash took the head out of) and it's much better than SS86 Kup -- look, articulation
I can't speak re: articulation, but you're flat-out wrong about the look.

I would add the plastic quality, too. To the point that I laughed out loud at just that. Having gone back to Prime Wars figures in several cases, none of them have the level of 'plastic quality' as anything in WFC save for perhaps Fangry, who's a floppy a mess as anything I have from any of those previous lines.

I guess we all have our preferences, but I don't even see how the plastic quality is arguable.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2122484)
Posted by william-james88 on December 3rd, 2021 @ 10:35pm CST
The plastic type they used for Gen (T30) Orion Pax was pretty bad. very light with breakage points at the some hinges. I liked the look (especially in car mode) but that toy will not be missed by me.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2122492)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 3rd, 2021 @ 11:53pm CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:SS86 Kup comes decidedly closer to that look than the old deluxe (which was an Aligned toy labeled as the G1 incarnation),
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Side note, both Aligned (IIRC) and 2019 IDW "Orion Pax" feel more like Optronix mislabeled.
Why do you keep calling the Thrilling 30 Orion Pax toy an Aligned toy?

It was based on Guido Guidi's Orion Pax design from Spotlight: Blurr, first published by IDW in 2008, two whole years before the first pieces of Aligned media ever saw release (heck, even before ROTF came out).

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Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2122498)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 4th, 2021 @ 6:53am CST
Sabrblade wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:SS86 Kup comes decidedly closer to that look than the old deluxe (which was an Aligned toy labeled as the G1 incarnation),
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Side note, both Aligned (IIRC) and 2019 IDW "Orion Pax" feel more like Optronix mislabeled.
Why do you keep calling the Thrilling 30 Orion Pax toy an Aligned toy?

It was based on Guido Guidi's Orion Pax design from Spotlight: Blurr, first published by IDW in 2008, two whole years before the first pieces of Aligned media ever saw release (heck, even before ROTF came out).

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Faulty memory, that's why; I was getting it mixed up with the WFC Optimus from 2010. My bad. :oops: #-o Feel free to smack me. I blame overload and the fact that FoC toys were lingering at the same time T30 came out. The point that it doesn't really work for resembling cartoon Orion still stands tho.

However, the side note isn't talking about the toys but rather the characters. If memory served Aligned "Orion Pax" recycled the archivist backstory that came from Optronix, the original G1 comics' version of "Optimus Prime before he was Optimus Prime," and I knew for certain 2019 IDW had done the same. Double-checking the wiki, I was right about the Aligned version.
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Posted by Sabrblade on December 4th, 2021 @ 10:09am CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:However, the side note isn't talking about the toys but rather the characters. If memory served Aligned "Orion Pax" recycled the archivist backstory that came from Optronix, the original G1 comics' version of "Optimus Prime before he was Optimus Prime," and I knew for certain 2019 IDW had done the same. Double-checking the wiki, I was right about the Aligned version.
Optronix was from Dreamwave, but yes, he was the archivist. They merged the Orion Pax name from the cartoon with the archivist job from Dreamwave, "aligning" the two together. Apparently, most preferred the "Orion Pax" name anyway since "Optronix" never caught on outside of Dreamwave and a few other very obscure things from the 2000s. IDW 2019 probably went with "Orion Pax as an archivist" too because it's his standard backstory now.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2122504)
Posted by sol magnus on December 4th, 2021 @ 10:12am CST
Sabrblade wrote: IDW 2019 probably went with "Orion Pax as an archivist" too because it's his standard backstory now.

When you say "probably" do you mean that's "probably" his backstory, or that's "probably why" they went with it as his backstory?

If it's the former, it indeed is his backstory. He was just a beefy damn archivist.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2122505)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 4th, 2021 @ 10:14am CST
sol magnus wrote:
Sabrblade wrote: IDW 2019 probably went with "Orion Pax as an archivist" too because it's his standard backstory now.

When you say "probably" do you mean that's "probably" his backstory, or that's "probably why" they went with it as his backstory?

If it's the former, it indeed is his backstory. He was just a beefy damn archivist.
I don't see how it could be read as anything other than the latter.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2122506)
Posted by sol magnus on December 4th, 2021 @ 10:26am CST
Sabrblade wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
Sabrblade wrote: IDW 2019 probably went with "Orion Pax as an archivist" too because it's his standard backstory now.

When you say "probably" do you mean that's "probably" his backstory, or that's "probably why" they went with it as his backstory?

If it's the former, it indeed is his backstory. He was just a beefy damn archivist.
I don't see how it could be read as anything other than the latter.

That's why I asked, because it wasn't clear to me which you meant based on your wording. I can understand that sentence in two different ways, as I laid out.

Had I written what you said I would have said "IDW went with 'Orion Pax as an archivist' too probably because it's his standard backstory now" emphasizing that they are using that backstory, with the conjecture secondary to the idea. And mind you, I'm not criticizing, just seeking clarity based on how a sentence can be interpreted more than one way in the English language.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2122518)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 4th, 2021 @ 12:04pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:However, the side note isn't talking about the toys but rather the characters. If memory served Aligned "Orion Pax" recycled the archivist backstory that came from Optronix, the original G1 comics' version of "Optimus Prime before he was Optimus Prime," and I knew for certain 2019 IDW had done the same. Double-checking the wiki, I was right about the Aligned version.
Optronix was from Dreamwave, but yes, he was the archivist. They merged the Orion Pax name from the cartoon with the archivist job from Dreamwave, "aligning" the two together. Apparently, most preferred the "Orion Pax" name anyway since "Optronix" never caught on outside of Dreamwave and a few other very obscure things from the 2000s. IDW 2019 probably went with "Orion Pax as an archivist" too because it's his standard backstory now.
1. Oops, got mixed up again.
2. Ah, so just like "Megatron was a miner and gladiator" (which was originally planned for Dreamwave) it's the backstory Furman is married to and so nobody bothers to try telling an interesting story with the cartoon's angle or something fresh. :roll: :-x :BANG_HEAD:
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2122522)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 4th, 2021 @ 12:44pm CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:2. Ah, so just like "Megatron was a miner and gladiator" (which was originally planned for Dreamwave) it's the backstory Furman is married to and so nobody bothers to try telling an interesting story with the cartoon's angle or something fresh. :roll: :-x :BANG_HEAD:
Megatron as a gladiator was from Marvel UK (where Optimus and Sunstreaker were gladiators too). Dreamwave reiterated it, and then IDW added the miner bit. Aligned merged it all together and now it's his standard backstory.

Recent years have shown Hasbro wanting a sense of consistency across the board (Cyberverse season 1 having Bumblebee amnesiac and radio-speaking to align with the Bumblebee movie, the Allspark being launched from Cybertron in both it and the Netflix WFCT cartoon, other elements from the movies and Aligned in both cartoons and the recent comics) in order to give Transformers a more definitive identity like other properties over the years have had (e.g. - the murder of Bruce Wayne's parents spur him to become Batman, the guilt over Uncle Ben's murder spurs Peter Parker to become Spider-Man, the baby Kal-El is sent to Earth from a dying Krypton to become Superman, Steve Rogers becomes Captain America in WWII and awakens in the modern day after being frozen in ice for years, etc.).

Of course, each medium is still free to choose their own direction and details that greatly differ from each other (Ascenticons are IDW2-original, Maximals and Predacons ruled by Galvatron and Optimus-turned-evil Nemesis Prime in an alternate "bad ending" future is Netflix-original, Quintessons as multiversal judges is Cyberverse-original, etc.) so long as the broad strokes remain the same (Optimus was Orion Pax the archivist, Megatron was a miner-turned-gladiator-turned-political revolutionary, etc.).
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 9th, 2021 @ 7:09pm CST
I never got T30 Orion, but I did get that mold as Leo Convoy, and I love that mold a lot. It is a ton of fun.

As for Orion Pax, I have PotP Optimus, that is all I need
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2123217)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 11th, 2021 @ 2:21pm CST
Also "Orion Pax" sounds much better than "Optronix" as well.
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2123920)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on December 24th, 2021 @ 9:11pm CST
Exclusives list courtesy of JTPrime, bolding the new info/confirmations:
Walmart: Velocitron line (Cosmos, Road Rocket, Armada Blurr, Burn-Out, Clampdown, Road Hauler, Override, Black Convoy)
Walgreens: Legacy Minerva
Target: Buzzworthy Legacy Silverstreak, Buzzworthy Legacy Multipack (Goldbug, Ransack, Paralyzer, Toy Scorponok), Buzzworthy Legacy Toy deco Terrorsaur, Buzzworthy Legacy Accessory Pack (Red Cog)
Amazon: Legacy Fractyl, Legacy Wreckers Impactor (includes one of the rumored Fossilizers based on price), Legacy Wreckers Leadfoot, Legacy Wreckers Topspin (Saltman deco), Legacy Wreckers Twin Twist (Saltman deco), Legacy Bulkhead redeco, Legacy Springer (includes one of the rumored Fossilizers based on price)
Hasbro Pulse: Legacy Pulsecon set (Orion Pax & Alpha Trion)
"Fan Channel": Legacy Selects Guard, Legacy Selects DK3, Legacy Selects Cyclonus' Armada, Legacy Beast Wars Buzzsaw, Legacy Beast Wars Sandstorm, Legacy Nightprowler, Selects Clampdown is now suspiciously absent
"Release venue unknown but they exist": Packrat, Antagony, Guardian Robot (remember that zoom & enhance image from Mark's desktop?)

And to top it all off, the Terrorsaur has a Target listing already:
Terror-001.jpeg
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2123923)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 24th, 2021 @ 9:20pm CST
I am SO all in and then some on modern updates of the 3H era BotCon Beast Wars characters. Gimme that Fractyl, Packrat, Antagony, and Sandstorm.

This news is especially good timing since I'm currently in the midst of giving a full overhaul to the Wiki's Beast Era timeline page, which includes all of the 3H BotCon stories that these characters starred in.[/shamelessplug]
Re: New Walmart Exclusive Velocitron Line Rumoured for 2022 + List of Other Retail Exclusives (2123929)
Posted by Burn on December 25th, 2021 @ 1:07am CST
So we're going to give priority to a few characters who a small number of the fanbase actually cares about and was basically glorified fan-fiction as opposed to late-G1 characters who have yet to receive ANY form of modern update?

Oh well, saving more money I guess.
And here come the haters to correct me on my own opinion...

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