RUMOR: Transformers: The Last Knight - Beginning of Hasbro Shared Universe with ROM the Spaceknight
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Several Seibertronians have thrown around a comment about ROM being the titular Last Knight in jest, but thinking about it - is it not possible that this is indeed the beginning of the wider Hasbro universe? Why the sudden change in fonts? Why does Galvatron/Megatron look like a Dire Wraith - ROM's main antagonists in the comics - made out of metal?
While we're at it, compare the tagline in the image below, with the one used for the Morse code teaser, 'Something Wicked This Way Comes'. And remember the creators?
As the author of the Forbes piece says, there are some parallels in the visual - but is that where it stops? According to Chris Ryall, definitely maybe. Check out more below, and rev your speculation engines in the Energon Pub!
As I said before: “we know Hasbro has movie plans for Rom, the old Parker Brothers toy that was one of the first action figures to include electronic lights and sounds. He’s slated to be part of a shared cinematic universe that will also include the Micronauts, G.I. Joe, M.A.S.K., and the Visionaries. It was assumed that Transformers would stay out of it, having previously announced plans for a spin-off universe of their own, and generally not needing the help. Even Age of Extinction, the lowest-grossing Transformers movie domestically (besides the animated one from the ’80s), raked in $1.1 billion worldwide, while the last G.I. Joe movie pulled in a ‘mere’ $375 million internationally. And yet: isn’t that how Marvel launched their cinematic universe? Using the popular character to segue into the riskier ones?”
Even if Rom isn’t happening, his iconography is being used. And as Rom is the least-known to the casual toy collector – aside from some convention exclusives, he hasn’t had a proper action figure of his own in decades – he is the one who needs the biggest push.
It’s time to transform him for the modern world…and roll out.
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Posted by Decepticon Stryker on June 8th, 2016 @ 1:23am CDT
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Posted by Deadput on June 8th, 2016 @ 2:07am CDT
MegaDump wrote:Any other childhood heroes you'd like to sodomize, Mr. Bay? How long before he introduces some souped up, steroid-pumped, machine gun toting My Little Ponies into the Transformers universe?
Seriously you act like he has made Transformers into trash when all he has done is have a few bad stories and lack of fake expensive cgi robots is it any worse then the recent cartoons and some of the comics?
I would rather watch the bad moments of the movies then watch Transformers Prime ever again at least the movies are entertaining in its badness.
Never change silly fandom.
Posted by Deadput on June 8th, 2016 @ 2:09am CDT
MegaDump wrote:Any other childhood heroes you'd like to sodomize, Mr. Bay? How long before he introduces some souped up, steroid-pumped, machine gun toting My Little Ponies into the Transformers universe?
Also who really cares about Rom the space Knight I mean really you expect him to get his own movie that people are going to pack into the theatre for?
Posted by Va'al on June 8th, 2016 @ 2:24am CDT
Deadput wrote:MegaDump wrote:Any other childhood heroes you'd like to sodomize, Mr. Bay? How long before he introduces some souped up, steroid-pumped, machine gun toting My Little Ponies into the Transformers universe?
Seriously you act like he has made Transformers into trash when all he has done is have a few bad stories and lack of fake expensive cgi robots is it any worse then the recent cartoons and some of the comics?
I would rather watch the bad moments of the movies then watch Transformers Prime ever again at least the movies are entertaining in its badness.
Never change silly fandom.
I'd suggest you all read the news we've been painstakingly posting, reporting and covering, before commenting in this manner.
The shared universe is not Bay's idea, it's Paramount and Hasbro's. The person in charge is Akiva Goldsman, and the various scripts that were suggested come from a team of writers. Bay has nothing to do with it until we know FOR CERTAIN that he's attached to a shared universe script.
Want to react superficially? Blame Goldsman. Not Bay.
Deadput wrote:Also who really cares about Rom the space Knight I mean really you expect him to get his own movie that people are going to pack into the theatre for?
A lot of people actually do. But not as much as the Transformers brand, which is why the piece suggested that ROM might be riding the coat-tails of TF until he's an established character.
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 8th, 2016 @ 2:27am CDT
@sirsoundwave this is likely the first of the hasbro expanded universe so all you need is general knowledge of the tf movies.
Posted by partholon on June 8th, 2016 @ 2:32am CDT
but i gotta say THIS would get me in the door.
i really liked ROMs comic back in the day and the notion of autobots fighting someone that ISNT decepticons/humans ?
at least its new.
first time ive been actually excited in a good while.
Posted by BumbleDouche on June 8th, 2016 @ 3:14am CDT
Deadput wrote:MegaDump wrote:Any other childhood heroes you'd like to sodomize, Mr. Bay? How long before he introduces some souped up, steroid-pumped, machine gun toting My Little Ponies into the Transformers universe?
Seriously you act like he has made Transformers into trash when all he has done is have a few bad stories and lack of fake expensive cgi robots is it any worse then the recent cartoons and some of the comics?
I would rather watch the bad moments of the movies then watch Transformers Prime ever again at least the movies are entertaining in its badness.
Never change silly fandom.
IT'S RUINED! RUINED FOREVER! TRUKK NOT MUNKY! .... ETC!
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 8th, 2016 @ 3:44am CDT
As for this deal with Rom, I have no idea who the character is so I won't say anything about it, but I think the writers should focus on putting out a quality Transformers script first, before they involve any characters from anywhere else.
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 8th, 2016 @ 5:03am CDT
partholon wrote:ive posted earlier in the thread that ive becomce completely jaded with the movieverse and TBH i was actually mulling on not going to see this one as i REALLY want a reboot to get the franchise sorted ala what happened with burtons batman.
but i gotta say THIS would get me in the door.
i really liked ROMs comic back in the day and the notion of autobots fighting someone that ISNT decepticons/humans ?
at least its new.
first time ive been actually excited in a good while.
To be fair the Burton movies didn't need a reboot (talking about the first two here, as for the other two, there was far too much meddling involved from outside sources), I never cared about the Nolan movies and i can't muster up any feeling about the new batman. There's not enough fun there.
That being said, if the hasbro universe is coming with the last knight then I think we can kiss any idea of a reboot away. Best we can get is if the movie designs started to change into what forms we like to see them in.
Posted by dragons on June 8th, 2016 @ 6:48am CDT
Deadput wrote:MegaDump wrote:Any other childhood heroes you'd like to sodomize, Mr. Bay? How long before he introduces some souped up, steroid-pumped, machine gun toting My Little Ponies into the Transformers universe?
Seriously you act like he has made Transformers into trash when all he has done is have a few bad stories and lack of fake expensive cgi robots is it any worse then the recent cartoons and some of the comics?
I would rather watch the bad moments of the movies then watch Transformers Prime ever again at least the movies are entertaining in its badness.
Never change silly fandom.
I take movies over animated series and comics any day in movies transformers are realistic looking and transform realistic unlike cartoon giant alien robot transforms into tape deck sound wave I'm naming and transformers going back in time dark ages frenzy riding one of seekers in jousting match , gridlock dressed as waiter serving spike, Carly , ultra Magnus and others with stupid looking mustache on his face in Dino mode, same can be said about comics there faces looking more human than robot most of time I feel reading Star Trek and Star Wars comics with characters transform in things
Posted by Sabrblade on June 8th, 2016 @ 8:51am CDT
Posted by Va'al on June 8th, 2016 @ 8:56am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 8th, 2016 @ 9:06am CDT
Posted by kriksix on June 8th, 2016 @ 9:10am CDT
dragons wrote:Deadput wrote:MegaDump wrote:Any other childhood heroes you'd like to sodomize, Mr. Bay? How long before he introduces some souped up, steroid-pumped, machine gun toting My Little Ponies into the Transformers universe?
Seriously you act like he has made Transformers into trash when all he has done is have a few bad stories and lack of fake expensive cgi robots is it any worse then the recent cartoons and some of the comics?
I would rather watch the bad moments of the movies then watch Transformers Prime ever again at least the movies are entertaining in its badness.
Never change silly fandom.
I take movies over animated series and comics any day in movies transformers are realistic looking and transform realistic unlike cartoon giant alien robot transforms into tape deck sound wave I'm naming and transformers going back in time dark ages frenzy riding one of seekers in jousting match , gridlock dressed as waiter serving spike, Carly , ultra Magnus and others with stupid looking mustache on his face in Dino mode, same can be said about comics there faces looking more human than robot most of time I feel reading Star Trek and Star Wars comics with characters transform in things
huh. well it's all about subjectivity and taste I guess. Transformers:Prime is my perfect incarnation of Transformers lore. conversely, Beast Wars does nothing for me, and I haven't managed to get into RID, but I know it's not my place to judge those that like them. Paths are different.
Did you watch TFP through? I'm on my like 10th run through the series and it's an absolute pleasure. imhmfo nothing else comes close to the development of the characters and stories we know and love, and it's so well written, in both its darkness and humour, regardless of it effectively being a show for kids. I even like the role of humans in it, there's a lot of love. I can't think of a better representation of Shockwave, Soundwave, Magnus, Arcee etc. To me it even trumps the comics, even the G1 Uk ones, which is saying something.
I'll always watch and find some love in the movies. I still rate the first one. But even with the poorer later ones, there're always some elements that are awesome to a TF fan, even if it's just the development of CGI tech (transformium transformations notwithstanding).. I've had to just accept that they're not going to be well written or directed as a coherent films, but ever the optimist (prime), I still live in hope.
cartoons, comics or films, suspension of disbelief is key. you're not going to enjoy anything without it.
Life is long. I envisage a full reboot in like 2025 or sumfing. which will be awesome. again. then everyone can be happy. x
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 8th, 2016 @ 9:36am CDT
Posted by Ravage XK on June 8th, 2016 @ 9:47am CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:A little Bumblebee comparison for everyone to see, brought to you by Jerren White, shared by the Ragin Nation Facebook page:
Remember in the old 80s Knight Rider when they gave KITT that super pursuit mode and things got a bit silly? BB seems to be going the same way.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 8th, 2016 @ 9:51am CDT
Ravage XK wrote:Remember in the old 80s Knight Rider when they gave KITT that super pursuit mode and things got a bit silly? BB seems to be going the same way.
I have not watched the original Knight Rider, so I can't really say I remember. But I did watch the new series that was out in 2008 I believe, and his attack mode was pretty sweet. and of all the car modes, this new Bee is looking really cool. I think they've been getting better as they go along honestly
Posted by Solrac333 on June 8th, 2016 @ 9:52am CDT
Posted by Deadput on June 8th, 2016 @ 9:54am CDT
kriksix wrote:
huh. well it's all about subjectivity and taste I guess. Transformers:Prime is my perfect incarnation of Transformers lore. conversely, Beast Wars does nothing for me, and I haven't managed to get into RID, but I know it's not my place to judge those that like them. Paths are different.
Did you watch TFP through? I'm on my like 10th run through the series and it's an absolute pleasure. imhmfo nothing else comes close to the development of the characters and stories we know and love, and it's so well written, in both its darkness and humour, regardless of it effectively being a show for kids. I even like the role of humans in it, there's a lot of love. I can't think of a better representation of Shockwave, Soundwave, Magnus, Arcee etc. To me it even trumps the comics, even the G1 Uk ones, which is saying something.
Transformers Prime and development do not belong in the same sentence together especially not in that bore fest relic hunt show that turned out to be meaningless in the end.
Only Ratchet, Smokescreen and Knock Out had any sort of development everyone else started and ended the series the exact same, killed off when they showed signs of change or were void of personality especially Ultra Magnus who wasn't even a character I can think of many versions of him and others that are better like Idw for example.
Posted by Sabrblade on June 8th, 2016 @ 9:56am CDT
omega666 wrote:I actually never heard of ROM.
Posted by SlyTF1 on June 8th, 2016 @ 10:11am CDT
omega666 wrote:I actually never heard of ROM.
Neither had I, until about 2 weeks ago when everyone started talking about him being in TF5. I still don't know anything about him. Just that he's a cyborg or something.
Posted by Kurona on June 8th, 2016 @ 10:14am CDT
Posted by Ravage XK on June 8th, 2016 @ 10:23am CDT
Posted by Zeek99g on June 8th, 2016 @ 11:20am CDT
And with the whole thing about ROM and this expanded universe? As a writer I would not continually return to Megatron as the big bad guy, especially with Optimus off Earth and the rest of the Autobots on Earth. It would make more since if Optimus encountered something in his journey and it has came back to Earth, or something along those lines.
So who is this character that they show the picture of?
Posted by Va'al on June 8th, 2016 @ 11:22am CDT
Zeek99g wrote:I wonder, is the Megatron picture for TF5 actually Megatron? He does not have Megatron's usual look in the movies and he did change his name to Galvatron.
And with the whole thing about ROM and this expanded universe? As a writer I would not continually return to Megatron as the big bad guy, especially with Optimus off Earth and the rest of the Autobots on Earth. It would make more since if Optimus encountered something in his journey and it has came back to Earth, or something along those lines.
So who is this character that they show the picture of?
We don't know for sure, but we do know that Megatron will return!
Posted by Ravage XK on June 8th, 2016 @ 11:29am CDT
Dr Va'al wrote:Zeek99g wrote:I wonder, is the Megatron picture for TF5 actually Megatron? He does not have Megatron's usual look in the movies and he did change his name to Galvatron.
And with the whole thing about ROM and this expanded universe? As a writer I would not continually return to Megatron as the big bad guy, especially with Optimus off Earth and the rest of the Autobots on Earth. It would make more since if Optimus encountered something in his journey and it has came back to Earth, or something along those lines.
So who is this character that they show the picture of?
We don't know for sure, but we do know that Megatron will return!
Fingers crossed for a new voice actor for Megatron. Lets have Frank Welker back in his proper body.
Posted by Kurona on June 8th, 2016 @ 11:40am CDT
And then there was that one other guy... He's on the tip of my tongue. Big monster guy with the horns, beginning with U? Something to do with horses...
Posted by Va'al on June 8th, 2016 @ 11:46am CDT
Kurona wrote:If they're worrying that megsy being the villain all the time would be boring there's a ton of alternate routes they could go, especially when they've shown they were willing to go as obscure as Sentinel and The Fallen. Scorponok, Overlord; they could even go with Ratbat if they're feeling crazy.
And then there was that one other guy... He's on the tip of my tongue. Big monster guy with the horns, beginning with U? Something to do with horses...
My Little Pony universe crossover..?
Posted by PrymeStriker on June 8th, 2016 @ 1:46pm CDT
Dr Va'al wrote:Kurona wrote:If they're worrying that megsy being the villain all the time would be boring there's a ton of alternate routes they could go, especially when they've shown they were willing to go as obscure as Sentinel and The Fallen. Scorponok, Overlord; they could even go with Ratbat if they're feeling crazy.
And then there was that one other guy... He's on the tip of my tongue. Big monster guy with the horns, beginning with U? Something to do with horses...
My Little Pony universe crossover..?
Optimus would be killed by the Party Cannon in an instant.
Posted by kriksix on June 8th, 2016 @ 2:17pm CDT
Deadput wrote:kriksix wrote:
huh. well it's all about subjectivity and taste I guess. Transformers:Prime is my perfect incarnation of Transformers lore. conversely, Beast Wars does nothing for me, and I haven't managed to get into RID, but I know it's not my place to judge those that like them. Paths are different.
Did you watch TFP through? I'm on my like 10th run through the series and it's an absolute pleasure. imhmfo nothing else comes close to the development of the characters and stories we know and love, and it's so well written, in both its darkness and humour, regardless of it effectively being a show for kids. I even like the role of humans in it, there's a lot of love. I can't think of a better representation of Shockwave, Soundwave, Magnus, Arcee etc. To me it even trumps the comics, even the G1 Uk ones, which is saying something.
Transformers Prime and development do not belong in the same sentence together especially not in that bore fest relic hunt show that turned out to be meaningless in the end.
Only Ratchet, Smokescreen and Knock Out had any sort of development everyone else started and ended the series the exact same, killed off when they showed signs of change or were void of personality especially Ultra Magnus who wasn't even a character I can think of many versions of him and others that are better like Idw for example.
oh, it's flawed, but I'd say there's a lot to like. development was the wrong word maybe. I guess I meant as in the development from their original G1 forms. Granted they are pretty one dimensional, but I just think they nailed the spirits of the characters.
Anyway I realise the slight hypocrisy of my post. "hey just let everyone like what they like" / "why don't you like what I like??"
Posted by Seibertron on June 8th, 2016 @ 2:39pm CDT
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rom_(comics)
After checking out Wikipedia, I discovered there was only one ROM toy originally (plus an SDCC Mighty Muggs figure), that was apparently a failure, but his comic appearances were successful oddly.
Apparently ROM has had as much legal fun over the years when it comes to reprints as our friend Death's Head. Which got me thinking ... why in the world didn't Hasbro trade ROM for Marvel's Death's Head??? Death's Head is a Transformers character, I don't care how you dish or slice it. As far as it looks to me, ROM is a Marvel character despite the opposite companies owning them. Hasbro and Marvel should've swapped them and made some agreement that any past publications that those characters appeared in are fine to reprint going forward. Heck, toss in Circuit Breaker as well and call it a day since ROM is probably a bigger issue than Death's Head and Circuit Breaker.
But that probably made way too much sense. Or maybe no one has ever considered that before. Seems like a big missed opportunity to me.
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 8th, 2016 @ 2:43pm CDT
We can also say that the dire wraiths worshipped an evil god of chaos that has awoke just in time for tf 6.
Also my first encounter with Rom was with a robot chicken sketch...
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 8th, 2016 @ 3:06pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:So this whole thing with ROM The Space Knight got me thinking last night. I don't know much of anything about ROM, so I did a bunch of reading and researching and was looking for some ROM toys that I could buy so that I'd have one on hand depending on where things went with all of this craziness between the live action movies and the IDW comics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rom_(comics)
After checking out Wikipedia, I discovered there was only one ROM toy originally (plus an SDCC Mighty Muggs figure), that was apparently a failure, but his comic appearances were successful oddly.
Apparently ROM has had as much legal fun over the years when it comes to reprints as our friend Death's Head. Which got me thinking ... why in the world didn't Hasbro trade ROM for Marvel's Death's Head??? Death's Head is a Transformers character, I don't care how you dish or slice it. As far as it looks to me, ROM is a Marvel character despite the opposite companies owning them. Hasbro and Marvel should've swapped them and made some agreement that any past publications that those characters appeared in are fine to reprint going forward. Heck, toss in Circuit Breaker as well and call it a day since ROM is probably a bigger issue than Death's Head and Circuit Breaker.
But that probably made way too much sense. Or maybe no one has ever considered that before. Seems like a big missed opportunity to me.
Sorry to double post but I didn't see this till I posted that last post.
Seems to me that marvel wanted to have their cake and eat it, wanting the mythos of Rom and death's head (all of them, after all he has been reintroduced into the pages of iron man). Until recently there probably wasn't enough interest to do any deal.
Wouldn't there be another obstacle in the path of reprinting deaths head stuff being the strips involving Doctor Who (who is know owned by titan comics)
Posted by Seibertron on June 8th, 2016 @ 3:09pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Wouldn't there be another obstacle in the path of reprinting deaths head stuff being the strips involving Doctor Who (who is know owned by titan comics)
Not sure ... some of these dealings come and go between these companies. Doctor Who is owned by BBC I believe, not Titan Comics who just licenses the character(s). The Doctor Who / Death's Head crossover was reprinted in a Marvel US trade paperback at some point (which I own) so I don't know how all of that comes into play. I'm OK with that because I just want Death's Head to be a part of the ongoing Transformers Universe, much like how ROM The Space Knight was at one point part of the mainstream Marvel Universe including various crossovers with other Marvel characters and with ROM appearing in the books of those other characters as well.
Posted by Kurona on June 8th, 2016 @ 3:10pm CDT
Posted by Seibertron on June 8th, 2016 @ 3:12pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Plus, Hasbro's still a toy company first and foremost, hence why they wanted ROM. Death's Head, as far as I know, was a Marvel Character with no toy history. Same for Circuit Breaker.
But with ROM being a failed one-off toy, what's the point? Is anyone here a fan of ROM the Space Knight? Seems like his home should be with the Marvel Universe.
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 8th, 2016 @ 3:15pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Wouldn't there be another obstacle in the path of reprinting deaths head stuff being the strips involving Doctor Who (who is know owned by titan comics)
Not sure ... some of these dealings come and go between these companies. Doctor Who is owned by BBC I believe, not Titan Comics who just licenses the character(s). The Doctor Who / Death's Head crossover was reprinted in a Marvel US trade paperback at some point (which I own) so I don't know how all of that comes into play. I'm OK with that because I just want Death's Head to be a part of the ongoing Transformers Universe, much like how ROM The Space Knight was at one point part of the mainstream Marvel Universe including various crossovers with other Marvel characters and with ROM appearing in the books of those other characters as well.
my bad I meant own the comic licence.
Posted by Burn on June 8th, 2016 @ 3:25pm CDT
Posted by PrymeStriker on June 8th, 2016 @ 3:39pm CDT
Deadput wrote:Only Ratchet, Smokescreen and Knock Out had any sort of development everyone else started and ended the series the exact same,
HA! Only those three, huh?
Yeah, sure. Next you're gonna tell me that Scorponok was the only deep character in Beast Wars!
Posted by partholon on June 8th, 2016 @ 3:48pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:partholon wrote:ive posted earlier in the thread that ive becomce completely jaded with the movieverse and TBH i was actually mulling on not going to see this one as i REALLY want a reboot to get the franchise sorted ala what happened with burtons batman.
but i gotta say THIS would get me in the door.
i really liked ROMs comic back in the day and the notion of autobots fighting someone that ISNT decepticons/humans ?
at least its new.
first time ive been actually excited in a good while.
To be fair the Burton movies didn't need a reboot (talking about the first two here, as for the other two, there was far too much meddling involved from outside sources), I never cared about the Nolan movies and i can't muster up any feeling about the new batman. There's not enough fun there.
That being said, if the hasbro universe is coming with the last knight then I think we can kiss any idea of a reboot away. Best we can get is if the movie designs started to change into what forms we like to see them in.
sorry i shoulda been more specific. i meant in terms of burtons "style". while i think the keaton batmans are great craic the butron gothic style is just too weird and off putting to me. one of the things i enjoyed most about the nolan stuff is it looked like it was set in the real world and the characters looked like believable versions of their iconic selves.
and your right. they DIDNT need to do a reboot, the last one - hated as it is - made only 30 mill or so LESS than the first batman. so they coulda milked it for another few films yet. but someone called time on that aesthetic
thats what i'd like to see happen with transformers. im honestly sick to death of optimus prime being the ONLY recognizable transformer in this franchise . we know from him that they can do it but steadfastly refuse to do so. i mean jesus i still weep at the nonsense that was starscream in this series. at the very LEAST we should be getting a proper bucket headed megatron with a fusion cannon by now. but nope. i actually wouldnt put vagina face out of the running when your dealing wtih bay.
going back to the ROM thing.
i think the reaction of a few posters here indicates why this may actually have legs. if hasbro want to do a ROM film, and they do, than intro-ing him in a flim series that regularly makes a billion plus worldwide is a hell of a way to get exposure for the guy.
plus weve seen that work in marvel films already so it looks like a no brainer. HOW they do it is another thing but hey at least its not a FIFTH hi way scene in a row.
Posted by Noideaforaname on June 8th, 2016 @ 4:07pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 8th, 2016 @ 4:09pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 8th, 2016 @ 9:48pm CDT
Posted by SlyTF1 on June 8th, 2016 @ 9:57pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 8th, 2016 @ 10:00pm CDT
SlyTF1 wrote:Probably all the Decepticons he's helped lock up since the Autobot's reinstatement. Attanger said there were fewer than 12 Decepticons still active in AOE. Looks like they've caught most of them.
This is a Bay TF film - they don't take prisoners
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on June 8th, 2016 @ 10:25pm CDT
Well I'm fairly certain that means there's 12 or so Decepticons left on Earth. Primus knows how many there are out in space or on board the Nemesis.
Posted by JIRRMan on June 8th, 2016 @ 10:48pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 8th, 2016 @ 10:50pm CDT
JIRRMan wrote:Ah, I didn't need the news credit anyway. Just glad to help!
Nope, them's the rule's And we're glad you sent it in