Twincast / Podcast Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety"

Transformers News: Twincast / Podcast Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety"

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Welcome to the latest Seibertron.com Twincast / Podcast episode, featuring host ScottyP, along with xRotorstormx and Razorclaw0000 as we journey through the latest toy and comic news in the first episode of 2018.

Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety" is available directly and in our RSS Feed, and should appear on iTunes, Google Play, and Stitcher Radio within 24 to 48 hours of when you see this news post.

First up, we continue the in-hand impressions of Wave 1 Power of the Primes toys, this time focusing on the Leaders. We discuss the common QC issues as well as the play pattern, inner robots, evolution modes, and discuss the relative successes and compromises of both Optimus Prime and Rodimus Prime.

Transformers News: Twincast / Podcast Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety"
They're just Prime


The discussion of the Power of the Primes toys leads us into a roundtable on the collecting epoch that is the Prime Wars Trilogy: as a new collector, are you OK to focus on Prime Wars (Combiner Wars, Titans Return, Power of the Primes) and largely ignore the first "Neo-G1" set of lines made up of Classics, Henkei, Generations, Universe 2.0, Thrilling 30, United, and Power Core Combiners? We discuss putting together a set of shelves of G1 characters using nothing but Prime Trilogy toys, thoughts on head sculpts, and other rules to help regulate a collection. Have opinions? We'd love to hear about them in the comments!

Transformers News: Twincast / Podcast Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety"
Neo-G1 Headmasters, impossible before Prime Wars!


While our thoughts are on Power of the Primes, we spend a few minutes discussing the recent news regarding the unconventional, but high profile, casting for Machinima's Power of the Primes cartoon. Ron Perlman, Samoa Joe, Mark Hamill, Jamie King, Wil Wheaton, and many others round out a large ensemble cast for the third show in the Prime Wars animated trilogy. We get down to the nitty gritty on potential reasons for the big-name talent, discuss the current fan apathy towards the shows, and discuss a coordinated fan response to the recent and future developments.

Transformers News: Twincast / Podcast Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety"
Why so seri-oh wait?


Next, we shift focus to the recently revealed Movie Masterpiece Ironhide, focusing on scale, accuracy, face sculpt, and more. We then digress to a discussion of GMC Topkicks as well as other movie Ironhide toys, looking back at some of the decos and more. We also give our thoughts on the Movie Masterpiece line and question Hasbro's decision of numbering.

Transformers News: Twincast / Podcast Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety"
He's a brick...house


Things take a decidedly heated turn as we enter into a spoiler-filled and angry teardown of Transformers vs Visionaries #1 and IDW Publishing's social media presence around it. Hear our thoughts on the issue, the ending of the issue and editorial decision, and finally the Tweetstorm around IDW's decision to both spoil the ending of #1 two days after the book launched, and the borderline sociopathicly chipper way they did it. You won't like ScottyP when he's angry.

Transformers News: Twincast / Podcast Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety"
Exactly how we felt...!


Turning our attention to happier things, we give our thoughts on the recently released MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker. We break down the accessories and packaging, discuss scale, Chip Chase, transformation and the "masterpiece moments", and finally pairing him next to MP-12 Sideswipe. We get in depth on some transformation steps so take this as fair warning if you want to experience the transformation first hand and enjoy the surprises unspoiled.

Transformers News: Twincast / Podcast Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety"
It's Always Sunny for Sunstreaker


We conclude the episode with some listener questions, specifically Skullcrunchberries' question regarding "surprise"/forgotten purchases and pre-orders. After discussing some, we hit some bragging rights from the holidays and discuss a few collecting goals for 2018.

Transformers News: Twincast / Podcast Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety"
A red dragon, now with 100% less Anthony Hopkins


We hope you enjoyed the latest episode and would love to hear your thoughts on our roundtable or any other topic. We've got some exciting things on The Road to 200 and we hope you'll keep listening!

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Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety" (1931560)
Posted by Rysquad on January 14th, 2018 @ 7:59pm CST
I watched Combiner Wars and Titans Return on go90 on both my computer and TV.

The go90 site has it - I think I logged into my Verizon account.

And on my phone, I can easily cast the shows from the go90 app via Chromecast.

Official viewing isn't restricted to a phone via an app.
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety" (1931606)
Posted by ScottyP on January 14th, 2018 @ 11:35pm CST
Rysquad wrote: Official viewing isn't restricted to a phone via an app.
As was acknowledged in the show. Just don't care enough to even put forth that modicum of effort.
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety" (1931629)
Posted by xRotorstormx on January 15th, 2018 @ 7:24am CST
Rysquad wrote:I watched Combiner Wars and Titans Return on go90 on both my computer and TV.

The go90 site has it - I think I logged into my Verizon account.

And on my phone, I can easily cast the shows from the go90 app via Chromecast.

Official viewing isn't restricted to a phone via an app.



Guess I did not realize that go90 had a legit website...
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety" (1931657)
Posted by snavej on January 15th, 2018 @ 11:00am CST
Megatronus looks a bit like Galactus.
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety" (1931684)
Posted by Va'al on January 15th, 2018 @ 1:41pm CST
Halfway through, quick and dirty contribution.

Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety" (1931685)
Posted by Rysquad on January 15th, 2018 @ 1:45pm CST
Razorclaw0000 wrote:
The discussion of the Power of the Primes toys leads us into a roundtable on the collecting epoch that is the Prime Wars Trilogy: as a new collector, are you OK to focus on Prime Wars (Combiner Wars, Titans Return, Power of the Primes) and largely ignore the first "Neo-G1" set of lines made up of Classics, Henkei, Generations, Universe 2.0, Thrilling 30, United, and Power Core Combiners? We discuss putting together a set of shelves of G1 characters using nothing but Prime Trilogy toys, thoughts on head sculpts, and other rules to help regulate a collection. Have opinions? We'd love to hear about them in the comments!


Neo-G1 Headmasters, impossible before Prime Wars!






Other than collecting current Ultra Magnus figures, I really got back into collecting because of Combiner Wars (and Rescue Bots, because of my young son).
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety" (1931692)
Posted by Emerje on January 15th, 2018 @ 2:38pm CST
Getting Guren Dragotron at a good price is tricky, I've been wanting one for a while. There aren't very many cheap ones on eBay because sellers tend to overvalue him, and you can get him for dirt cheap on Mandarake when he shows up there (under $25), but the shipping is prohibitive.

Emerje
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety" (1931702)
Posted by ScottyP on January 15th, 2018 @ 3:09pm CST
Emerje wrote:Getting Guren Dragotron at a good price is tricky, I've been wanting one for a while. There aren't very many cheap ones on eBay because sellers tend to overvalue him, and you can get him for dirt cheap on Mandarake when he shows up there (under $25), but the shipping is prohibitive.

Emerje
Not too bad on BBTS: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/V ... tails/4774 Not dirt cheap or anything certainly, but still a pretty good price!
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety" (1931711)
Posted by primalxconvoy on January 15th, 2018 @ 3:26pm CST
Emerje wrote:Getting Guren Dragotron at a good price is tricky, I've been wanting one for a while. There aren't very many cheap ones on eBay because sellers tend to overvalue him, and you can get him for dirt cheap on Mandarake when he shows up there (under $25), but the shipping is prohibitive.

Emerje


Yes, Guren Dragotron is cheap as chips in Japan and became so shortly after release, which was baffling. I can understand why the other "Oni-cons" didn't sell well, but Dragotron is big, beautiful and a steal at around ¥2,000 that I've seen it go for, even in used places outside of Tokyo.
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety" (1931724)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on January 15th, 2018 @ 4:27pm CST
What is Thrilling 30? I've seen it mentioned on BBTS also with some of their figures. Is it just what they're calling some of the Generations toys? And if so, what qualifies them as thrilling 30?
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety" (1931735)
Posted by primalxconvoy on January 15th, 2018 @ 6:08pm CST
Rodimus Knight wrote:What is Thrilling 30? I've seen it mentioned on BBTS also with some of their figures. Is it just what they're calling some of the Generations toys? And if so, what qualifies them as thrilling 30?


Google and TFwiki are your friends, youngling:

- http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Thrilling_30
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety" (1931762)
Posted by ScottyP on January 15th, 2018 @ 8:52pm CST
Rodimus Knight wrote:What is Thrilling 30? I've seen it mentioned on BBTS also with some of their figures. Is it just what they're calling some of the Generations toys? And if so, what qualifies them as thrilling 30?
It can mean the set of 30 "special", "x of 30" numbered releases that came out in 2013-2014. This is a hodgepodge of stuff encompassing various exclusive releases from Beast Hunters, Platinum, Generations, and even Age of Extinction. In the context of Generations toys, this is sometimes used to distinguish the toys from 2013 and 2014 from the earlier WFC/FoC era Generations toys. We meant the latter in this episode's context :)
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety" (1931809)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on January 16th, 2018 @ 7:34am CST
ScottyP wrote:
Rodimus Knight wrote:What is Thrilling 30? I've seen it mentioned on BBTS also with some of their figures. Is it just what they're calling some of the Generations toys? And if so, what qualifies them as thrilling 30?
It can mean the set of 30 "special", "x of 30" numbered releases that came out in 2013-2014. This is a hodgepodge of stuff encompassing various exclusive releases from Beast Hunters, Platinum, Generations, and even Age of Extinction. In the context of Generations toys, this is sometimes used to distinguish the toys from 2013 and 2014 from the earlier WFC/FoC era Generations toys. We meant the latter in this episode's context :)


Okay, thanks.
I was looking at a couple of the listings on BBTS that mentioned it and couldn't figure out why they were being listed that way, and then I saw the note on this article.
So did they ever do all 30 numbered boxes, or their lack of doing so the reason why the other ones are included?
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety" (1931811)
Posted by primalxconvoy on January 16th, 2018 @ 7:39am CST
Rodimus Knight wrote:
ScottyP wrote:
Rodimus Knight wrote:What is Thrilling 30? I've seen it mentioned on BBTS also with some of their figures. Is it just what they're calling some of the Generations toys? And if so, what qualifies them as thrilling 30?
It can mean the set of 30 "special", "x of 30" numbered releases that came out in 2013-2014. This is a hodgepodge of stuff encompassing various exclusive releases from Beast Hunters, Platinum, Generations, and even Age of Extinction. In the context of Generations toys, this is sometimes used to distinguish the toys from 2013 and 2014 from the earlier WFC/FoC era Generations toys. We meant the latter in this episode's context :)


Okay, thanks.
I was looking at a couple of the listings on BBTS that mentioned it and couldn't figure out why they were being listed that way, and then I saw the note on this article.
So did they ever do all 30 numbered boxes, or their lack of doing so the reason why the other ones are included?


The wiki link given above has a list of all of the figures, showing that number 14 is TWO figures, whereas some didn't even received numbers on their boxes.
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety" (1931814)
Posted by ScottyP on January 16th, 2018 @ 8:04am CST
^ I am 99% certain their info about 14 is incorrect with respect to the AoE multi pack not having it labeled on the package. I threw that box away though, will go dig through the gallery here to see if that caught it.

But yes, there are 31 toys because of two number 28s. That whole thing could have been special but just ended up being a highly pointless mess

Edit: I can't find a picture of the box from every angle. Still pretty sure that one had a sticker, but really, all we need to know it was truly thrilling is this gem of stock photography:
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety" (1931839)
Posted by primalxconvoy on January 16th, 2018 @ 11:04am CST
ScottyP wrote:^ I am 99% certain their info about 14 is incorrect with respect to the AoE multi pack not having it labeled on the package. I threw that box away though, will go dig through the gallery here to see if that caught it.

But yes, there are 31 toys because of two number 28s. That whole thing could have been special but just ended up being a highly pointless mess

Edit: I can't find a picture of the box from every angle. Still pretty sure that one had a sticker, but really, all we need to know it was truly thrilling is this gem of stock photography:



Well, this IS Hasblo, we're talking about here, not Hasbro. They NEVER get things like this right.
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety" (1931868)
Posted by YoungPrime on January 16th, 2018 @ 2:11pm CST
Not feeling POTP's Voyager and Leader class figures.

Even popular TF reviewers on YouTube are having a hard time saying nice things about Rodimus and Starscream. Grimlock isn't terrible but it's not good enough to make me replace my FOC version with Iron Factory add on's.

And I was looking forward to finally getting a CHUG based Rodimus and Voyager class Starscream. But after seeing more and more reviews and feedback. I'm skipping both.
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety" (1931871)
Posted by primalxconvoy on January 16th, 2018 @ 2:22pm CST
YoungPrime wrote:Not feeling POTP's Voyager and Leader class figures.

Even popular TF reviewers on YouTube are having a hard time saying nice things about Rodimus and Starscream. Grimlock isn't terrible but it's not good enough to make me replace my FOC version with Iron Factory add on's.

And I was looking forward to finally getting a CHUG based Rodimus and Voyager class Starscream. But after seeing more and more reviews and feedback. I'm skipping both.


Frankly, I'm surprised that so many reviews like POTP Optimus, with it's fugly cab rear, robot kibble on the trailer, having Orion Pax turn into an Earth lorry, etc. Personally, I think it would have been better to have a separate, decent Orion Pax, while using the POTP mold to make a decent, PM OP that can actually stand up on feet, can rather than wobbly, unstable hooves.
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety" (1931878)
Posted by YoungPrime on January 16th, 2018 @ 3:25pm CST
"I think they're giving a lot for $45"

??????!

Are we talking about the same Leader class figures.... The TR Leader's are one thing but these especially that Rodimus???
Re: Twincast / Podcast Episode #192 "Transformers vs. Impropriety" (1931912)
Posted by ScottyP on January 16th, 2018 @ 7:01pm CST
primalxconvoy wrote:while using the POTP mold to make a decent, PM OP that can actually stand up on feet, can rather than wobbly, unstable hooves.
Yeah he's wobbly, if you don't transform it properly. The piece that connects the feet to the leg clicks in as you move it towards the back of the leg. If you don't do this, he has trouble standing.

YoungPrime wrote:"I think they're giving a lot for $45"

??????!

Are we talking about the same Leader class figures.... The TR Leader's are one thing but these especially that Rodimus???
Yeah, especially when compared to Movie Leader toys like recent Movie Optimus Leader molds. He's big, has four modes, a two-gun combining rifle, and a fun transformation. The toy has its flaws but it's a great usage of the pricepoint and concept despite the execution not being pitch perfect. I could spend $5 less and get two SW Black series figs or Marvel Legends and not get anywhere near the play value available with Rodimus.
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