Power of the Primes Wave 1 Voyagers and Prime Masters found at US retail

That 29.99 dorsnt actually scare me that much, TRU usually prices a few bucks higher than the others.

I've been blind for not noticing Grimlock's "Dinobot" prefix. Don't worry, it's a separate trademark, probably for consistency across the other Dinobots who do require prefixes. Think we can expect the same for the Terrorcons?

... and think unified subgroups are called out now?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I've been blind for not noticing Grimlock's "Dinobot" prefix. Don't worry, it's a separate trademark, probably for consistency across the other Dinobots who do require prefixes. Think we can expect the same for the Terrorcons?

... and think unified subgroups are called out now?

Yeah, it looks like the team combiners are getting their subgroup names attached to their individual names, as the Terrorcons looks to have "Terrorcon" prefixes on them too.

Got grimlock and daaaaaaaamn he’s good. Very solid and has beefy ratchets. The gauntlets work worryingly well and give off a more savage vibe than a sharpened sword. The torso doesn’t fall apart unless you actively try and take him out of the mode. He’s gotten a fairly bad rap but but isn’t nearly as bad as some people claim he is imo.

Sabrblade wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I've been blind for not noticing Grimlock's "Dinobot" prefix. Don't worry, it's a separate trademark, probably for consistency across the other Dinobots who do require prefixes. Think we can expect the same for the Terrorcons?

... and think unified subgroups are called out now?

Yeah, it looks like the team combiners are getting their subgroup names attached to their individual names, as the Terrorcons looks to have "Terrorcon" prefixes on them too.

Yup, they all do, working on that right now

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072MZ2112?tag=seibertron07-20&ta ... formers-20

Terrsolpix wrote:Got grimlock and daaaaaaaamn he’s good. Very solid and has beefy ratchets. The gauntlets work worryingly well and give off a more savage vibe than a sharpened sword. The torso doesn’t fall apart unless you actively try and take him out of the mode. He’s gotten a fairly bad rap but but isn’t nearly as bad as some people claim he is imo.

How solid is the connection of his gold robot chest piece in dinomode?

william-james88 wrote:

Terrsolpix wrote:Got grimlock and daaaaaaaamn he’s good. Very solid and has beefy ratchets. The gauntlets work worryingly well and give off a more savage vibe than a sharpened sword. The torso doesn’t fall apart unless you actively try and take him out of the mode. He’s gotten a fairly bad rap but but isn’t nearly as bad as some people claim he is imo.

How solid is the connection of his gold robot chest piece in dinomode?

Solid as a rock!

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I've been blind for not noticing Grimlock's "Dinobot" prefix. Don't worry, it's a separate trademark, probably for consistency across the other Dinobots who do require prefixes. Think we can expect the same for the Terrorcons?

... and think unified subgroups are called out now?

Yeah, it looks like the team combiners are getting their subgroup names attached to their individual names, as the Terrorcons looks to have "Terrorcon" prefixes on them too.

Yup, they all do, working on that right now

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072MZ2112?tag=seibertron07-20&ta ... formers-20

But it remains to be seen if they're all separate trademarks or not. From official Hasbro use, only Sinnertwin seems to not require a prefix out of the Terrorcons, which is... ironic, with Prime Twinstrike

Where would be a good place to start... the Pretenders, the "Duocons", the Dinobots?

I was at Universal Studios Orlando today, Got the Exclusive snarl, and got see that all of Wave 1 Power of the primes is Available there for those interested.

Budder Prime wrote:I was at Universal Studios Orlando today, Got the Exclusive snarl, and got see that all of Wave 1 Power of the primes is Available there for those interested.

Including leaders? If you have a picture that would be front page news right away.

william-james88 wrote:

Budder Prime wrote:I was at Universal Studios Orlando today, Got the Exclusive snarl, and got see that all of Wave 1 Power of the primes is Available there for those interested.

Including leaders? If you have a picture that would be front page news right away.

Sadly I didn't see any Leaders, But I guess I should've thought to take a Picture, I was too excited to actually FIND them available.
However all the Legends, Prime Masters, and Deluxes were there for certain. I was actually trying to see anything related to the Prime1 Studios Onslaught, sadly Nothing new has happened since It was teased.

TF fan Nevermore has informed us of several new listings on Amazon.com for Transformers Power of the Primes. Most of these are placeholder listings, especially for wave 3 toys. But for the wave 2 deluxes, we are treated to high resolution images we previously only saw with a watermark, along with the number of steps. The full listings available will be posted below. The real fun part of the remaining placeholder listings is that we get a confirmation of all the toys leaked earlier this year along with confirmation of their names. For instance, we now know for certain that we will get an "Outback" (to hell with you Steakhouse!) along with the following corrections nevermore pointed out:
- The Battletrap component included in Legends Class wave 2 is named "Battleslash", not "Battleclash" as some people mistakenly read from the Hasbro leak.
- Tailgate having the same Hasbro product code number as Roadtrap was an error. Roadtrap is really E1158, while Tailgate is actually E1159.

Here is a list with links to the Amazon listings followed by images and product descriptions for those that were available. Clicking the images will let you see them bigger.

Prime Masters wave 2:
Alchemist Prime
Alpha Trion

Prime Masters wave 3:
"Bludgeon" (Quintus Prime)
"Bomb-Burst" (Megatronus)
"Octopunch" (Solus Prime)

Legends Class wave 2:
Tailgate
Battleslash
Roadtrap

Legends Class wave 3:
Cindersaur
Outback

Deluxe Class wave 2, with photos:
Moonracer
Dinobot Snarl
Dinobot Sludge
Blackwing
Terrorcon Rippersnapper

Deluxe Class wave 3:
Terrorcon Cutthroat
Terrorcon Blot
Terrorcon Sinnertwin

Deluxe Class wave 4:
Novastar

Voyager Class wave 2:
Elita-1
Terrorcon Hun-Gurrr

Voyager Class wave 3:
Inferno

Leader Class wave 1:
Evolution Optimus Prime
Evolution Rodimus Prime

Leader Class wave 2:
Evolution Rodimus Unicronus

Leader Class wave 3:
Evolution Optimus Primal

Deluxe Class Autobot Moonracer
Converts from robot mode to sports car mode in 14 steps
Comes with a Prime Armor accessory and a collector card
Works with Prime Master figures (not included)
Wield the Power of the Primes with the joyful Autobot sharpshooter
Includes Deluxe Class Autobot Moonracer figure, Prime Armor accessory, blaster accessory, collector card, and instructions. Ages 8 and up.

Deluxe Class Dinobot Snarl
Converts from robot mode to stegosaurus mode in 13 steps
Comes with a Prime Armor accessory and a collector card
Works with Prime Master figures (not included)
Wield the Power of the Primes with the surly, combat-hungry Dinobot
Includes Deluxe Class Dinobot Snarl figure, Prime Armor accessory, blaster accessory, collector card, and instructions. Ages 8 and up.

Deluxe Class Dinobot Sludge
Converts from robot mode to brontosaurus mode in 20 steps
Comes with a Prime Armor accessory and a collector card
Works with Prime Master figures (not included)
Wield the Power of the Primes with the Decepticon-stomping Dinobot warrior
Includes Deluxe Class Dinobot Sludge figure, Prime Armor accessory, blaster accessory, collector card, and instructions. Ages 8 and up.

Deluxe Class Blackwing
Converts from robot mode to jet mode in 14 steps
Comes with a Prime Armor accessory and a collector card
Works with Prime Master figures (not included)
Wield the Power of the Primes with the dark-minded Decepticon mercenary
Includes Deluxe Class Blackwing figure, Prime Armor accessory, 2 blaster accessories, collector card, and instructions. Ages 8 and up.

Deluxe Class Terrorcon Rippersnapper
Converts from robot mode to land shark mode in 14 steps
Comes with a Prime Armor accessory and a collector card
Works with Prime Master figures (not included)
Wield the Power of the Primes with the Terrorcon ground attack specialist
Includes Deluxe Class Rippersnapper figure, Prime Armor accessory, blaster accessory, collector card, and instructions. Ages 8 and up.

Figure evolves from Orion Pax to Optimus Prime
Comes with a Matrix of Leadership accessory
Works with Prime Master figures (Each sold separately. Subject to availability.)
Comes with a collectible character card
Converts from robot to tractor-trailer in 33 steps
Includes Leader Class Optimus Prime figure with Evolution Armor, Matrix of Leadership accessory, 2 accessories, collector card, and instructions. Ages 8 and up.

Figure evolves from Autobot Hot Rod to Rodimus Prime
Comes with a Matrix of Leadership accessory
Works with Prime Master figures (Each sold separately. Subject to availability.)
Comes with a collectible character card
Converts from robot to tractor-trailer in 28 steps
Includes Leader Class Rodimus Prime figure with Evolution Armor, Matrix of Leadership accessory, 2 accessories, collector card, and instructions. Ages 8 and up.

Figure evolves from Nemesis Hot Rod to Rodimus Unicronus
Comes with a Matrix of Chaos accessory
Works with Prime Master figures (Prime Master figures not included. Each sold separately. Subject to availability.)
Comes with a collectible character card
Includes Leader Class Rodimus Unicronus figure with Evolution armor, Matrix of Chaos accessory, 2 weapon accessories, collector card, and instructions
Ages 8 and up

Oh no, now I cant unsee, we can see little hot rod's arms coming out of Rodimus' chest.

Budder Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Budder Prime wrote:I was at Universal Studios Orlando today, Got the Exclusive snarl, and got see that all of Wave 1 Power of the primes is Available there for those interested.

Including leaders? If you have a picture that would be front page news right away.

Sadly I didn't see any Leaders, But I guess I should've thought to take a Picture, I was too excited to actually FIND them available.
However all the Legends, Prime Masters, and Deluxes were there for certain. I was actually trying to see anything related to the Prime1 Studios Onslaught, sadly Nothing new has happened since It was teased.

No worries, when I was talking of pictures I meant for the leaders. So since they werent there, its all good.

Some of the listings have "Autobot" and "Decepticon" prefixes:

- Autobot Outback
- Autobot Tailgate
- Decepticon Bludgeon
- Autobot Moonracer
- Autobot Novastar

That largely falls in line with earlier instances, though "Autobot Outback" is surprising. I don't suppose the USTPO no longer allows Outback Stakehouse the monopoly on the trademark, especially in areas they never use them in?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I don't suppose the USTPO no longer allows Outback Stakehouse the monopoly on the trademark, especially in areas they never use them in?

I guess vampires will have to go elsewhere for their rare meat.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:That largely falls in line with earlier instances, though "Autobot Outback" is surprising. I don't suppose the USTPO no longer allows Outback Stakehouse the monopoly on the trademark, especially in areas they never use them in?

They could be trying to avoid problems with Subaru.

daoist wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:That largely falls in line with earlier instances, though "Autobot Outback" is surprising. I don't suppose the USTPO no longer allows Outback Stakehouse the monopoly on the trademark, especially in areas they never use them in?

They could be trying to avoid problems with Subaru.

Subaru as in the car manufacturer? *does some googling* Ooooooooooooooo, the 2018 Subaru Outback! Good call!

You gotta love the spell-checkers over at Amazon... "the mighty Autobus or the destructive Deceptions."

Cringingly shudders.

Darkwing looks aderpable but I suspect its more the original design than this specific toy. I'm just glad he can act as a combiner limb in addition to the combination with Dreadwind. If only because I want to assign these two as limbs for Nova Prime/BC Optimus should I want to display him in combined mode.

I just hope we get more stand-alone decepticons in later waves to give him (or any spare torso such as Starscream) a complete limb set.

Edit: You know what? With some way to attach a Titan Master port and some new beast head piece, Rippersnapper would make a great body for Squeezeplay/Cancer/Crashbash.

wolverinetodd wrote:You gotta love the spell-checkers over at Amazon... "the mighty Autobus or the destructive Deceptions."

Cringingly shudders.

Autocorrect can be a real mother forklift.

.....since TR wave5 never appeared readily available in Oregon, I feel I should set myself up for disappointment with Novastar and just get her online when the time comes. :/

Rodimus Unicronus looks to still be using a mixture of Decepticon and SG Autobot logos.

Pick one.

Skritz wrote:Edit: You know what? With some way to attach a Titan Master port and some new beast head piece, Rippersnapper would make a great body for Squeezeplay/Cancer/Crashbash.

Repugnus?

Though to be honest, of all the guys to become Headmasters he's got the head for it.

I'm still holding out for this remold of Ripersnapper:



Quick observation:



I'm really unhappy with the copyright info being on his largest plate since we see both sides. Even if they're assembled wrong (swapped left and right) you'll still clearly see it on the inside. And I don't think it is on wrong because the hinge for folding them down is on the correct side (outside). Should have stuck it inside a leg like most figures.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Skritz wrote:Edit: You know what? With some way to attach a Titan Master port and some new beast head piece, Rippersnapper would make a great body for Squeezeplay/Cancer/Crashbash.

Repugnus?

Though to be honest, of all the guys to become Headmasters he's got the head for it.

I'm still holding out for this remold of Ripersnapper:



Quick observation:



I'm really unhappy with the copyright info being on his largest plate since we see both sides. Even if they're assembled wrong (swapped left and right) you'll still clearly see it on the inside. And I don't think it is on wrong because the hinge for folding them down is on the correct side (outside). Should have stuck it inside a leg like most figures.

Emerje

Honestly you know there’s always a meeting for that stuff and until you have him in your hand it’s best to just trust that was the best and only place to put it. Maybe I’m giving them too much credit but like I said there’s meeting that are had to figure out where to put the copyright and trademark.

Yes there does seem to be plenty of space on the inside of the leg but I don’t work for Hasbro and I’m not part of those conversations

Plus let’s not kid ourselves, Snarls best side has always been his right

And priced $5.00 above retail. TRU execs probably wonder why they continue to struggle.

What happened to Catilla?

I guess one could always headcanon that Rodimus Unicronus is sporting a Decepticon logo because, like many previous Unicronian agents and servants he's just manipulating them.

Skritz wrote:I guess one could always headcanon that Rodimus Unicronus is sporting a Decepticon logo because, like many previous Unicronian agents and servants he's just manipulating them.

I mean, "Good" Cliffjumper joined the "good"cons. Why not have evil Roddy join the bad guys?

OK who got Moonracer up the duff?

Kurona wrote:What happened to Catilla?

LOL

There should be some Pretender Vehicles & Beasts representing in PotP! And again, MOAR BEAST WARS

Rodimus Unicronus has an Autobot symbol on the car Hood/chest but a Decepticon symbol on the trailer portion.

Yeah, looking at those photos? I'm no longer sure I want the Voyager Starscream for PooP. There's too much that just doesn't jive. It may be more palatable for Elita-1, where there are no preconceived notions of what it should 'look like'.

And the foil stickers just look sloppy with all that bulging and rippling.

Agamemnon wrote:Yogurt? I hate yogurt! Even with strawberries!

I gotta say...if I had more self control, I'd skip the Voyagers so far. I'm liking nearly everything else I have seen so far. But, Will is doing a nice job of convincing me to not invest in Grimmy and Screamer...

If you need some more convincing, here is a shot at Grimlock's scale in dino mode

that rodimus prime vehicle mode reminds me of something

firefox91 wrote:And priced $5.00 above retail. TRU execs probably wonder why they continue to struggle.

So far TRU is selling all the POTP figures right at MSRP. They're struggling because of some back debt they inherited when they were bought out and the dwindling market for toys at retail, not just because of their prices.

Has anyone received their HTS Prime Master orders yet? I'm just wondering how long it usually takes them to deliver....

bodrock wrote:Has anyone received their HTS Prime Master orders yet? I'm just wondering how long it usually takes them to deliver....

I got mine yesterday, but I live pretty close to their warehouse, so I usually get my package the day after it ships.

On a different note, I just nabbed my own Voyagers. I can confirm that nowhere on Starscream's packaging or instructions does it give us a name for his combiner. It's just called a Super Robot on the instructions.

Ultra Markus wrote:that rodimus prime vehicle mode reminds me of something

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Old meme, like 1986 old, still valid and never gets old.

Kurona wrote:What happened to Catilla?

This one?

Prime Masters:
Wave 2
Landmine- E1116, 63050964886
Catilla- E1115, 63050964887

Misnamed Alchemist Prime with Submarauder. It's also possible it was an attempt to release Toraizer in his stead early on, but the name stuck for some reason.

I found a good set of weapons for Slash!

So . . . Elita 1, Starscream, and Inferno are torsos without enough limbs for a full combiner?
"AUTOBOTS! COMBINE TO FORM DOUBLE-AMPUTEEBOT!"
"DECEPTICONS! MERGE TO FORM FLOPS ONTHEGROUNDICON!"

That kinda sucks. I skipped Cyclonus because of that.

Brokebot wrote:So . . . Elita 1, Starscream, and Inferno are torsos without enough limbs for a full combiner?
"AUTOBOTS! COMBINE TO FORM DOUBLE-AMPUTEEBOT!"
"DECEPTICONS! MERGE TO FORM FLOPS ONTHEGROUNDICON!"

That kinda sucks. I skipped Cyclonus because of that.

It's disappointing that mix and match combiners seem to be the norm vice the exception this time around. There are still so many good combiner teams to tap into, but at this rate, it doesn't seem we'll get around to most of them before the toy line ends.

Lore Keeper wrote:

Brokebot wrote:So . . . Elita 1, Starscream, and Inferno are torsos without enough limbs for a full combiner?
"AUTOBOTS! COMBINE TO FORM DOUBLE-AMPUTEEBOT!"
"DECEPTICONS! MERGE TO FORM FLOPS ONTHEGROUNDICON!"

That kinda sucks. I skipped Cyclonus because of that.

It's disappointing that mix and match combiners seem to be the norm vice the exception this time around. There are still so many good combiner teams to tap into, but at this rate, it doesn't seem we'll get around to most of them before the toy line ends.

We pretty much have the Classic teams completed, that is, the ones that appeared in the US cartoon:

- Constructicons & Devastator
- Aerialbots & Superion
- Stunticons & Menasor
- Protectobots & Defensor
- Combaticons & Bruticus (with a shuttle Blast Off rumored)
- Technobots & Computron
- Terrocons & Abominus
- Predacons & Predaking

The rest will be bonuses, really. But they're not forgotten as Wildly of the Monster Pretenders is built in the Cutthroat mold.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:

Brokebot wrote:So . . . Elita 1, Starscream, and Inferno are torsos without enough limbs for a full combiner?
"AUTOBOTS! COMBINE TO FORM DOUBLE-AMPUTEEBOT!"
"DECEPTICONS! MERGE TO FORM FLOPS ONTHEGROUNDICON!"

That kinda sucks. I skipped Cyclonus because of that.

It's disappointing that mix and match combiners seem to be the norm vice the exception this time around. There are still so many good combiner teams to tap into, but at this rate, it doesn't seem we'll get around to most of them before the toy line ends.

We pretty much have the Classic teams completed, that is, the ones that appeared in the US cartoon:

- Constructicons & Devastator
- Aerialbots & Superion
- Stunticons & Menasor
- Protectobots & Defensor
- Combaticons & Bruticus (with a shuttle Blast Off rumored)
- Technobots & Computron
- Terrocons & Abominus
- Predacons & Predaking

The rest will be bonuses, really. But they're not forgotten as Wildly of the Monster Pretenders is built in the Cutthroat mold.

I'm honestly surprised Takara hasn't taken a crack at Liokaiser yet. I can easily see them creating a Leozack and Jallguar to replace evil Sky Lynx. I would buy that in a heartbeat and never again look upon my Hasbro version.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:

Brokebot wrote:A brilliant point.

A well reasoned response

We pretty much have the Classic teams completed, that is, the ones that appeared in the US cartoon:

- Constructicons & Devastator
- Aerialbots & Superion
- Stunticons & Menasor
- Protectobots & Defensor
- Combaticons & Bruticus (with a shuttle Blast Off rumored)
- Technobots & Computron
- Terrocons & Abominus
- Predacons & Predaking

The rest will be bonuses, really. But they're not forgotten as Wildly of the Monster Pretenders is built in the Cutthroat mold.

I have some Seacons and Monstercons that need updating, dang it.

Also, if given the choice between buying a half-complete combiner or not buying them at all, I'm going the cheap route and saving my cash for something else. Starscream seems . . . halfhearted at best, and Elita 1 is a recolored copy. Inferno is just a red Hot Spot. Hasbro wants us to buy these but won't provide enough limbots to to complete them? Sorry, but no.

Shelf Warmer #1, Shelf Warmer #2, and Shelf Warmer #3.

Brokebot wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:

Brokebot wrote:A brilliant point.

A well reasoned response

We pretty much have the Classic teams completed, that is, the ones that appeared in the US cartoon:

- Constructicons & Devastator
- Aerialbots & Superion
- Stunticons & Menasor
- Protectobots & Defensor
- Combaticons & Bruticus (with a shuttle Blast Off rumored)
- Technobots & Computron
- Terrocons & Abominus
- Predacons & Predaking

The rest will be bonuses, really. But they're not forgotten as Wildly of the Monster Pretenders is built in the Cutthroat mold.

I have some Seacons and Monstercons that need updating, dang it.

Also, if given the choice between buying a half-complete combiner or not buying them at all, I'm going the cheap route and saving my cash for something else. Starscream seems . . . halfhearted at best, and Elita 1 is a recolored copy. Inferno is just a red Hot Spot. Hasbro wants us to buy these but won't provide enough limbots to to complete them? Sorry, but no.

Shelf Warmer #1, Shelf Warmer #2, and Shelf Warmer #3.

Honestly, Starscream's torso mode is the best thing about him. His jet mode doesn't hold together well, and his robot mode is very bland. His torso mode, however is very solid and utilizes a very interesting transformation. If I had to pick one voyager out of these oddballs to keep in combiner mode, it'd be him.

william-james88 wrote:

Albatross250 wrote:They better re-release Combiner Wars sets again.
Bruticus is by far the best CW ever built (Except you, Jet-Molded Blast Off)

For CW, sure I guess we could say Bruticus was the best. But Unite Warriors Computron and Grand Galvatron are still better

what about devestator?

Lore Keeper wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:

Brokebot wrote:So . . . Elita 1, Starscream, and Inferno are torsos without enough limbs for a full combiner?
"AUTOBOTS! COMBINE TO FORM DOUBLE-AMPUTEEBOT!"
"DECEPTICONS! MERGE TO FORM FLOPS ONTHEGROUNDICON!"

That kinda sucks. I skipped Cyclonus because of that.

It's disappointing that mix and match combiners seem to be the norm vice the exception this time around. There are still so many good combiner teams to tap into, but at this rate, it doesn't seem we'll get around to most of them before the toy line ends.

We pretty much have the Classic teams completed, that is, the ones that appeared in the US cartoon:

- Constructicons & Devastator
- Aerialbots & Superion
- Stunticons & Menasor
- Protectobots & Defensor
- Combaticons & Bruticus (with a shuttle Blast Off rumored)
- Technobots & Computron
- Terrocons & Abominus
- Predacons & Predaking

The rest will be bonuses, really. But they're not forgotten as Wildly of the Monster Pretenders is built in the Cutthroat mold.

I'm honestly surprised Takara hasn't taken a crack at Liokaiser yet. I can easily see them creating a Leozack and Jallguar to replace evil Sky Lynx. I would buy that in a heartbeat and never again look upon my Hasbro version.

then check this out! http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/c ... r.1104026/

Just got grimlock and the prime masters at TRU in Cedar Rapids. $5.99 for prime masters...