Video Review Roundup for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Master, Deluxe and Micromaster Class

Transformers News: Video Review Roundup for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Master, Deluxe and Micromaster Class

Monday, November 12th, 2018 10:17PM CST

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Most Transformers War for Cybertron Siege toys have now been found in the US. You can view all the DPCI codes to help you locat the particular figure you wish here. For those who are still on the fence, we have some great galleries at your disposal which show what you can accomplish with the figures. You can see them here:

New Galleries: War for Cybertron Siege Micromasters Wave 1

New Galleries: War for Cybertron SIEGE Battle Masters Blowpipe, Firedrive and Lionizer

New Galleries: War for Cybertron SIEGE Deluxe Class Cog, Hound, Sideswipe and Skytread

Of course, some people also like looking at video reviews so we have made a round up below of some for the deluxe, micromaster and Battle Master class.





















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Re: Video Review Roundup for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Master, Deluxe and Micromaster Class (1993875)
Posted by Ultra Markus on November 12th, 2018 @ 11:38pm CST
what im wondering is wheres the legends class figures, i get the two micromasters = one legends but,
why dont we get cybertronian versions of the minibots how cool would that be :-?
Re: Video Review Roundup for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Master, Deluxe and Micromaster Class (1993877)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 12th, 2018 @ 11:59pm CST
Ultra Markus wrote:what im wondering is wheres the legends class figures, i get the two micromasters = one legends but,
why dont we get cybertronian versions of the minibots how cool would that be :-?
There is no Legends class in this line because of the Micromasters. But, Bumblebee with his saucer altmode has been alluded to as a possibility for this line, so if we get him, he'll probably be in the Deluxe class somehow. Maybe a tiny Deluxe with a big accessory a la TLK Sqweeks.
Re: Video Review Roundup for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Master, Deluxe and Micromaster Class (1993881)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on November 13th, 2018 @ 12:21am CST
Sabrblade wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:what im wondering is wheres the legends class figures, i get the two micromasters = one legends but,
why dont we get cybertronian versions of the minibots how cool would that be :-?
There is no Legends class in this line because of the Micromasters. But, Bumblebee with his saucer altmode has been alluded to as a possibility for this line, so if we get him, he'll probably be in the Deluxe class somehow. Maybe a tiny Deluxe with a big accessory a la TLK Sqweeks.


Energon Rods ;)
Re: Video Review Roundup for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Master, Deluxe and Micromaster Class (1993882)
Posted by Ultra Markus on November 13th, 2018 @ 12:26am CST
Sabrblade wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:what im wondering is wheres the legends class figures, i get the two micromasters = one legends but,
why dont we get cybertronian versions of the minibots how cool would that be :-?
There is no Legends class in this line because of the Micromasters. But, Bumblebee with his saucer altmode has been alluded to as a possibility for this line, so if we get him, he'll probably be in the Deluxe class somehow. Maybe a tiny Deluxe with a big accessory a la TLK Sqweeks.

Saucer mode bumblebee is all I would really care for in this line
Besides this is a trilogy maybe one segment will have earth modes and chances are the other guys may show up later
Re: Video Review Roundup for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Master, Deluxe and Micromaster Class (1993892)
Posted by Emerje on November 13th, 2018 @ 2:39am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Amelie wrote:Its possible the backs of the arms had to be hollow because of how the toy was being cast\molded.


Thank you for bringing up casting, as that's the only real way to create the arms as a single piece.

What needs to be kept in mind is that casting 3-dimensional objects with a hollow interior, like an egg, can not be done as everything is a heavy solid chunk: you'd have to separate the halves and cast those. Of course that'd require more molds with drives up the cost for material, plus extra assembly. The hollow arms are a necessary evil here.

Here's the thing, most "hollow" parts aren't entirely hollow (unless they're for hiding hands or whatever), they include extra molded details or cross beams to add structure. This is just a big empty area. Hound does it right:

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They also usually place the hollow areas on the inside to help hide them (like above). Since the arms are straight in alt mode they should have been able to pull that off at least. And, I'm not sure, but I think the hollow space in the back is to reduce plastic and cut costs, not part of the transformation. Ironhide just isn't feeling like the more premium figure we were promised. He had better be surprisingly tall.

Emerje
Re: Video Review Roundup for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Master, Deluxe and Micromaster Class (1993910)
Posted by jtanimator on November 13th, 2018 @ 9:27am CST
It's amazing to me how much more dynamic Storm Cloud looks in posing than the others simply because he has elbow joints. I mean they all look good, but posability with these little guys goes up 100% with something that simple.
Re: Video Review Roundup for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Master, Deluxe and Micromaster Class (1993916)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on November 13th, 2018 @ 10:04am CST
The pegs for Storm Cloud's hands support Fire Blasts, right? It might be difficult to balance, but that would also allow for some cool display options.
Re: Video Review Roundup for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Master, Deluxe and Micromaster Class (1993924)
Posted by jtanimator on November 13th, 2018 @ 11:37am CST
Didn't notice that before, but now that you mention it, I'm that much more excited! Storm Cloud's lookin' to quite possibly be my favorite Micromaster from this wave.
Re: Video Review Roundup for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Master, Deluxe and Micromaster Class (1993971)
Posted by Z3ROhour on November 13th, 2018 @ 4:46pm CST
wolverinetodd wrote:
Z3ROhour wrote:is anyone else bothered
by the fact
that Skytread
doesn't become
two separate bots
as well as vehicles?

or is that just me?

maybe i missed a post.
:???: :-?


I'm a bit disappointed by that fact, but then Hasbro spoiled us by giving us two completely new Legends Class figures in POTP with Roadtrap and Battleslash to create Battletrap. Originally both Duocons were comprised of two vehicle alt modes that didn't have individual Con modes, but both vehicles combined to form one Con, just as we're seeing with Siege Skytread. If Hasbro had introduced Battletrap into the POTP Deluxe Class line as just one Con that transforms into two different vehicles, as it was originally in G1, then the reveal of Siege Skytread (Flywheels) wouldn't be an issue. Apparently there's no Legends Class in the WFC line, otherwise we might would've gotten a "Skyspear" and a "Dirt-Tread" that combine to form Skytread.

Considering I'm going to display both my POTP Battletrap and WFC Siege Skytread (Flywheels) in their combined Deluxe Class size Con forms, I'm okay with the way Skytread is.

oh
dont get me wrong
me too

i like Skytread a lot!

BUTT

wouldnt it have been great!?

four bots rushing into battle
flippin
and shifting
and changing
shape
positions
attacks
partners
TORSOS!

the pandemonium!
:KREMZEEK:
Re: Video Review Roundup for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Master, Deluxe and Micromaster Class (1993976)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 13th, 2018 @ 6:40pm CST
I love Flak, there's just something infinitely cuddly about how tiny his alt mode is :x
Re: Video Review Roundup for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Master, Deluxe and Micromaster Class (1993995)
Posted by Skritz on November 13th, 2018 @ 8:53pm CST
I've been thinking: do any of you think Brunt might get retooled into Slammer? Granted that would mean two weaponizers associated with Metroplex.
Re: Video Review Roundup for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Master, Deluxe and Micromaster Class (1993997)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on November 13th, 2018 @ 9:05pm CST
Skritz wrote:I've been thinking: do any of you think Brunt might get retooled into Slammer? Granted that would mean two weaponizers associated with Metroplex.


With a new turret and chest piece that actually may work. That work result in new legs as well actually:

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Re: Video Review Roundup for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Master, Deluxe and Micromaster Class (1993998)
Posted by Flashwave on November 13th, 2018 @ 9:12pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Skritz wrote:I've been thinking: do any of you think Brunt might get retooled into Slammer? Granted that would mean two weaponizers associated with Metroplex.


With a new turret and chest piece that actually may work. That work result in new legs as well actually:

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With Hasbro's recent penchant forco tools pre tools part sharing to minimize costs, it's certainly possible, but grunts turret is also Brent's legs, so simply retooling the turret is not as easy as simply retooling turret
Re: Video Review Roundup for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Master, Deluxe and Micromaster Class (1993999)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on November 13th, 2018 @ 9:14pm CST
Flashwave wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Skritz wrote:I've been thinking: do any of you think Brunt might get retooled into Slammer? Granted that would mean two weaponizers associated with Metroplex.


With a new turret and chest piece that actually may work. That work result in new legs as well actually:

Image

With Hasbro's recent penchant forco tools pre tools part sharing to minimize costs, it's certainly possible, but grunts turret is also Brent's legs, so simply retooling the turret is not as easy as simply retooling turret


It's not so much retooling as it is switching out parts, as the Weaponizers are, by their very nature, partsformers.
Re: Video Review Roundup for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Master, Deluxe and Micromaster Class (1994007)
Posted by Emerje on November 13th, 2018 @ 10:08pm CST
I had mentioned previously that if they did do Slammer out of Brunt then the colors would make him more accurate to the Centurion Droids that the mold is based on.

Image

They could take the opportunity to make the lower legs a little more accurate (not that they're drastically inaccurate or anything), it's not like they can make it look exactly like Slammer's barrel where it's so skinny. They can replace the round part of the turret with something squarer while they're at it.

Emerje
Re: Video Review Roundup for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Master, Deluxe and Micromaster Class (1994011)
Posted by Ultra Markus on November 13th, 2018 @ 10:38pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Skritz wrote:I've been thinking: do any of you think Brunt might get retooled into Slammer? Granted that would mean two weaponizers associated with Metroplex.


With a new turret and chest piece that actually may work. That work result in new legs as well actually:

Image

they should also make scamper a deluxe while they are at it
Re: Video Review Roundup for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Master, Deluxe and Micromaster Class (1994045)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on November 14th, 2018 @ 7:53am CST
^I don't know that Scamper needs to be a Deluxe. With Full-Tilt it was a necessity because he's Trypticon's breastplate - make Trypticon bigger and he has to be bigger too.

I don't think a Slammer retool of Brunt would really work. Slammer is a more Earthly tank by a country mile, all tread with no separate is a uniform width along his whole body. I'd embed a picture, but apparently we don't have a G1 Metroplex gallery yet, so have a TFwiki link:
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:G1Slammer_toy.jpg

Maybe my fears about the sizes aren't as bad as I'd thought, but then again maybe they are.. I would like some help being sure. Can somebody please photograph Siege Sideswipe with some Cybertron and Prime Wars deluxes, and Siege Optimus with Combiner Wars Optimus? Or at the very least measure them from sole of foot to top of head with a ruler so I can do the comparing myself?

Speaking of measurements, still looking for measurements of Cog's components in vehicle mode if anyone would be so kind as to provide them? Also, curious as to whether his Gasket and Grommet components (the 6-wheeled car and the half-track respectively) can function as Titan Master taxis as-is. I ask this because the original Gasket and Grommet were designed as Headmaster taxis:
Grommet:
Image
Gasket:
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:Cogtoy.jpg

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Amelie wrote:Its possible the backs of the arms had to be hollow because of how the toy was being cast\molded.


Thank you for bringing up casting, as that's the only real way to create the arms as a single piece.

What needs to be kept in mind is that casting 3-dimensional objects with a hollow interior, like an egg, can not be done as everything is a heavy solid chunk: you'd have to separate the halves and cast those. Of course that'd require more molds with drives up the cost for material, plus extra assembly. The hollow arms are a necessary evil here.

Thiiiiisss. This is also why we get exposed hollow thighs - it lets them be cast as a single piece, which is less cost and less effort when cutting the molds (the absolute most expensive part of the manufacturing process bar none). And at least Hasbro has learned to get interesting with hollow thighs by including things like sculpted shocks in the hollow side (just look at Titans Return Hot Rod). Hollows are a price of economical manufacture, and they've been with the line since the start:
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Even on that most legendary and cherished of G1 toys. (Also, we apparently don't have a gallery for G1 Jazz either).

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And while we're on the subject, behold what I think remain the most severe examples of exposed mold hollows in Transformers history: Cybertron Optimus Prime's calf cannons. Don't think these have been topped yet, and they don't make him any less awesome.

Ultra Markus wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:what im wondering is wheres the legends class figures, i get the two micromasters = one legends but,
why dont we get cybertronian versions of the minibots how cool would that be :-?
There is no Legends class in this line because of the Micromasters. But, Bumblebee with his saucer altmode has been alluded to as a possibility for this line, so if we get him, he'll probably be in the Deluxe class somehow. Maybe a tiny Deluxe with a big accessory a la TLK Sqweeks.

Saucer mode bumblebee is all I would really care for in this line
Besides this is a trilogy maybe one segment will have earth modes and chances are the other guys may show up later

Saucercar (Never forget that's still a car mode - it ends up being crippled by having a wheel shot off) Bumblebee would probably end up needing to be a Deluxe for the sake of the big saucer wings.
Re: Video Review Roundup for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Master, Deluxe and Micromaster Class (1994111)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 14th, 2018 @ 7:43pm CST
No Siege figures have shown up in the Twin Cities area of Minnesota so far. The hype just keeps building, though! I want to get my paws on these sooner rather than later, even though I'm still looking for PotP Optimal Optimus at brick and mortar retail! :BANG_HEAD:
Re: Video Review Roundup for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Master, Deluxe and Micromaster Class (1994116)
Posted by Emerje on November 14th, 2018 @ 8:57pm CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:No Siege figures have shown up in the Twin Cities area of Minnesota so far. The hype just keeps building, though! I want to get my paws on these sooner rather than later, even though I'm still looking for PotP Optimal Optimus at brick and mortar retail! :BANG_HEAD:

Yeah, I've struck out on both checking two different Targets here in Maine since Friday (Portland and Augusta). Really want to get my hands on some Siege figures even though I still have a few PotP guys to pick up.

Emerje
Re: Video Review Roundup for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Master, Deluxe and Micromaster Class (1994124)
Posted by DeathReviews on November 14th, 2018 @ 10:45pm CST
Anyone remember, not long ago, when Hasbro ended Transformers Animated, both the TV show and the toy line? They said it was to clear the way for the next live action movie. They claimed that customers and fans would get 'confused' if there were two different lines of Transformer figures on shelves at the same time.

So.... what happened to that excuse?

How many Transformers lines are there on store shelves now? We got the last of Power of the Primes. We've got the new Bumblebee movie figures. We got the "Studio Series" figures. We've got G1 re-issues. We've got the entire "Cyberverse" line. We've still got the Rescue line, and we've also got "Botbots". And now Siege is turning up in stores. All on the shelves. All at the same time.

Sure seems that somewhere over time, Hasbro got over thinking that customers would get all 'confused' if there were multiple figure lines on the shelves. Not that I'm complaining about the current wealth of choices, but I'm still resentful that they cancelled TFA, one of their best shows/figure lines ever, by using a cheesy excuse that they seem to be utterly ignoring now.

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